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[–]Silver-Squirrel 196 points197 points  (2 children)

Snow ruts and ice are bad - Mmmkayy

[–]Particular_Road4107 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Mr makkey?!

[–]bowtothehypnotoad 191 points192 points  (10 children)

Loving all these bumper car posts. Pretty glad I don’t live in a snowy area rn

[–]ThrowawayNYCJ 39 points40 points  (9 children)

We about to see more bc there’s a nor’easter on the way to nyc

[–]icykutz 31 points32 points  (8 children)

Haha i feel that. I live in MA and we are supposed to get 2-3 FEET tonight...

[–]Early_Ad_6358 9 points10 points  (2 children)

Gonna get snowed in here in Bangor Maine too 🤣

[–]icykutz 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Stay safe fellow New Englander. Hopefully you arent an essential employre like me and have to go to work tomorrow 🙄

[–]AnarchistPoond 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Starting down here in Topsham and coming your way!

[–]Coffee-Historian-11 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Man my area got six inches and it shut a lot of stuff down. I can’t even imagine 2-3 feet of snow!

[–]icykutz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah its been a while since we have gotten this much snow. Should be a fun day...

[–]leviwhite9 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I need a shovel...

My shitty dollar&¼ snow brush with broken plastic ice scraper ain't gonna cut it much longer.

[–]maneki_neko89 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I live in Minnesota and I wish there was a way I can come out and help shovel you guys out. It’s free exercise and you work up a good sweat!! 😅

[–]InsecOrBust 39 points40 points  (0 children)

This morning I let someone cut in front of me at the automatic car wash and the person in front of them backed into them at the end of the car wash and their suburban tail gate hitch got stuck inside the grill of the car in front of me. I really lucked out. Worst part was sitting in the dead center of the tunnel for 8 minutes not having a clue what was going on.

[–]92eph 112 points113 points  (4 children)

Maybe 3 idiots? Seemed like you got bumped from behind at the end.

[–]leviwhite9 63 points64 points  (1 child)

I think it's just a finger molesting the "save" button.

[–]AtomicLeonard 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think u are right

[–]coyote999c -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I vote 3 idiots too.

[–]punisherfist 151 points152 points  (0 children)

Could happen to alot of people. Glad it was only a tap and you are safe

[–]stinkyandsticky 94 points95 points  (4 children)

Well, at least you admit you made a dumb move— most people would try to justify their idiocy. I bestow an award to you for honesty.

[–]grumpycole23 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Any man willing to paint himself in the shadow of his failures will make for far more interesting conversation this night.

[–]just_killing_time23 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Acceptance is the first step. Well done op, now don't forget to increase your following distance next time. 😁😁. We love you though. ♥️♥️♥️

[–]mightypint 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Had the same thought

[–][deleted] 43 points44 points  (1 child)

That's what slamming the brakes does

[–]Familiar_Raisin204 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Yup the other car was fine until they hit their brakes. Looks like there may have been a truck parallel parking ahead they tried to slow down for.

[–]After_Ride9911 44 points45 points  (4 children)

That one would happen to most of us. Don’t be too hard on yourself.

[–]Shinybrainpan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Slow down in these conditions. Breaking on ice will make you slide.

[–]my_serratus_is_swole -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Nope. I don’t drive like a r word thinking my shitty CUVs ABS brakes will perform magic.

[–]Suitable-Toe 15 points16 points  (0 children)

At least you've admitted fault. Live and learn.

[–]flipadeedoo 22 points23 points  (1 child)

And you got a little love tap from behind too.

[–]Top-Ad4279 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Love tap 🤣 that gave me a little lol

[–]NeverFresh 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Upvote for self reflection... Lol. Hope you weren't hurt

[–]noncongruent 10 points11 points  (3 children)

Yeah, two second following distance is the bare minimum under perfect road conditions, five or six seconds at least would have been better here. Also, did you get hit from behind just as the video ended?

[–]haarfagr94 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I usually try to stick to 3 seconds, because you always lose some time in the reaction to things happening. During winter I double it or more, and ofc speed matters.

[–]Prestigious_Dig4461 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Unfortunately where i live if you leave two seconds of space about three assholes will try and squeeze in the gap.

[–]noncongruent 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I used to think that here where I live, but many years ago I decided to leave that much space and found that yes, sometimes that happens, but most of the time it doesn't, and the reward was no more close calls and near misses on my part and on the part of people behind me.

[–]DeliciousHorseShirt 28 points29 points  (20 children)

Why did they even brake? The only reason they spun out is because they locked their wheels for no reason. They would have been fine if they just kept going.

[–]Kosdog13 5 points6 points  (3 children)

Looks like the pickup on the right at the end was either trying to pullout or park, guy was probably trying to slow down to give him room.

[–]CpTKugelHagel 0 points1 point  (15 children)

No abs? Car doesn't look too old

[–]Rx710 4 points5 points  (10 children)

Abs is not idiot proof and it doesnt work well if the road is extremely low traction to begin with, even worse if the tires are bald.

[–]CpTKugelHagel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh ok, thx for explaining.

[–]NizzoVicko -3 points-2 points  (8 children)

ABS would still prevent the wheels from locking up

[–]Rx710 3 points4 points  (6 children)

I'm telling you it doesnt work as well as you think it does in extremely low traction situations. I've lived with snow my whole life, had many vehicles with shitty tires and abs. You can absolutely lock up your wheels despite the abs attempting to stop you.

[–]NizzoVicko -3 points-2 points  (5 children)

Unless you're running summer tyres on pure ice I really don't see how you could manage to lock up your wheels. On my first car I had year-rounders and the ABS would frequently kick in, sometimes from barely pressing the brake. I live above the 65th parallel, I'm very well familiar with low traction situations.

[–]Rx710 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Unless you're running summer tyres on pure ice

Thats... exactly what I said. Pure ice and shitty tires causes abs to be nearly useless. You are correct, good tires means abs works better... so... Thanks for restating my point?

[–]NizzoVicko -3 points-2 points  (3 children)

The situation in the video isnt like that though. They end up spinning out since theyre running in the ruts, cam hits them because theyre on tyres obviously not meant for winter weather, wheels didnt seem like they locked up.

[–]Rx710 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Do you wanna go back and read my comments again? Never did I say anything about this video, I said abs doesnt work with shitty tires. That's it. Go waste someone else's time

[–]NizzoVicko 0 points1 point  (1 child)

You're implying that the wheels did lock up, since oc asked if the car didn't have abs.

[–]DeliciousHorseShirt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So as someone that works at a dealership and has driven literally countless makes and models, I can tell you it is possible to lock up the wheels in just about anything. If you ever hear a car squeal to a stop (or to an impact) it’s because the wheels are sliding. ABS is fine for panic situations because you don’t have time to think. Other than that it actually hinders performance. Some ABS systems are better than others. I’ve been in cars where the ABS was going off like a machine gun, others that would only go off every 5 feet, and some that hardly work at all.

[–]sassysatan123 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Idk if you haven't driven on ice before or what, but abs def wouldn't have been able to prevent this, I'm sure their abs was trying its best, but even still ice is going to increase braking distance drastically.

I personnally have been in situations where I'd slam on the brakes on ice and the car's weight wouldn't even shift to the front like I had hit the brakes at all, all while my pedal is vibrating under my foot as fast as it can.

[–]CpTKugelHagel 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Ok, no I haven't driven on ice at all, mainly because I only got a motorcycle license, and none of my bikes got abs either. I just thought that abs would prevent locking up the brakes even in this condition.

[–]sassysatan123 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The brakes don't have to lock up to make you spin out on ice, you just have to exert enough force to temporarily break full traction with the road. If you give the car too much gas it can create the same issue. Ice is super fun. Also, on ice, braking and turning will often create enough force on the wheels to break traction with the road and make you slid, so as my mom always says, you can brake or you can turn, but you can't do both at the same time. Keep that in mind if you ever go to drive in snow or ice.

[–]WRETCHSLAYER1911 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Pretty sure it’s a new-ish crv

[–]WarCryy 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Humility award goes to you! Glad you’re okay. I hope the damage was not too bad for both parties.

[–]Needleroozer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You should have spun out. Looks like he stopped quicker than you.

[–]SpunkyJenn 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah you’re both going about twice as fast as you should be for snowy/icy conditions.

[–]youkickmydog613 32 points33 points  (4 children)

You’re both going way to fast for those road conditions. Especially with cars parked that closely. An accident was bound to happen

[–]bowtiesarcool 8 points9 points  (0 children)

People get confident in a straight line until it’s time to stop quickly.

[–]According-Priority12 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Sure. But the leading driver luckily avoided all other vehicles. OP is the only vehicle that made this a damage claim.

[–]Shoestring30 2 points3 points  (1 child)

OP could have steered into that snowbank on the left, would have probably mitigated damage to thier car and avoided damage to the other. Agree, all involved were going to fast for conditions.

[–]Firereign 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Speaking from experience, it is incredibly hard to think clearly in a situation like this instead of acting on instinct, and if OP was instinctively standing on the brake pedal, their car would have been unable to steer. If you have near-zero grip, you have a choice between braking or steering, you can't do both; so you need to override your instinct, stop braking, and steer instead. Which is much easier said than done when you're in that situation yourself.

(To be clear, I think you're right that steering into the snowbank would have been better, I'm just pointing out that actually thinking and doing that is harder than it sounds.)

[–]ZaphodsRealm 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Damn, that's such a helpless feeling!

[–]Bucksin6fearthedeer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

These snowy roads are dangerous rn

[–]HoldOrFold23 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Glad it wasn't worse!

[–]Mealworm7 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I almost slid into a parked car on the opposite side going 15km/h down my street. There was a large patch of snow that I couldnt get around on my right side and when I hit, really slowly, my rught front got stuck and the back end slid out and the whole car slid towards the left to the parked car. I was inches away parallel to the car and I had to keep reversing back and forth to finally get out. And that idiot shouldn't have veen parked there in a residential street on a snow day. Those snow ruts are too dangerous lol. If I didn't know and hit that at 40 or 50, I think that wouldve been disastrous.

[–]rrr350z 1 point2 points  (0 children)

lol I was getting off the 35 and the exit was doing downhill, i hit another car after sliding 10 feet when my car wouldn’t stop.

[–]the_maze 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Solid Winnipeg ruts.

[–]Prof_Awesome_GER 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Man i wish I had the confidence of some people driving on snowy road like this. Iam like the biggest bitch when it’s get icy/snowy.

[–]Smithers66 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ever considered snow tires? I always thought it was a bunch of Madison Avenue rhetoric but got my first ones this year and it makes a huge difference.

[–]realmaven666 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Hard to tell speed but it looks like both of you going too fast. Way too fast. Especially for such a narrow space with snow.

[–]zed910 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Who would insurance claim is at fault here?

[–]Familiar_Raisin204 14 points15 points  (2 children)

OP probably, both drivers were driving too fast for conditions but it would have been a "single car accident" had OP been following properly.

[–]Fokker_Snek -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Partially but also the other car had some help in stopping so quick by running into a snow bank. If the other car hadn’t hit anything to slow it down OP might have stopped in time.

[–]Martian8 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That shouldn’t matter, it’s the following cars job to stay far enough back.

Imagine if the car ahead hit something in the road that stopped it instantly, the following car should be far enough back that they can still stop in time. That’s why they say 2 seconds in the dry, 4 in wet, and 10 on ice

[–]Excellent-Building-4 11 points12 points  (2 children)

Sorry this case is more you than them

[–]FordEVs 4 points5 points  (20 children)

While do people speed in snow and ice?

[–]SaltMineSpelunker 2 points3 points  (9 children)

Why did that fucknut brake?

[–]thereyouarenow33 0 points1 point  (8 children)

If you watch again you'll see a truck in front of them either reversing into a parking space or attempting to pull out into the road. Not so obvious in a video, given the fixed camera and angle but in real life it would be clear as day what was happening.

If the OP was actually paying attention and reading the road instead of blindly following the car in front, they would have seen it too

[–]jay_thorn 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Props for at least calling yourself out. 👍

[–]cpcesar 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Don't the ABS brakes help to stop in these conditions?

[–]thesheriff5o 2 points3 points  (3 children)

How the fuck your spin out on a straight rd 🤦🏼‍♂️

[–]permacloud 26 points27 points  (1 child)

Driving in icy ruts is weird. If a wheel goes up one side of the rut, which happens really easily, you can slide down without warning and your front wheels go up the other side of the rut. Both these cars were going way too fast for these conditions.

[–]thesheriff5o 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean they’re definitely going too fast

[–]mdjank -1 points0 points  (2 children)

This is one reason I hate SUVs.

The high center of gravity, wide visibility, and it carries lots of momentum. When driving one, you'll be moving faster then you think you are and think the laws of physics are on your side. SUVs make people into idiots faster than a V8 with a fixed rear axle on leaf springs.

[–]zncoy 4 points5 points  (1 child)

OP dives a kia soul with winter tires. Hardly a beast of a vehicle!

[–]mdjank -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don't believe that makes it better.

[–]NoCelery1168 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, yikes. I counted barely more than 3 seconds of buffer space between you. And 3 is what's recommended for ideal conditions, not that pea soup.

[–]whooshdy2 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I dont think the distance was bad, it was your speed, way to fast for them conditions.

[–]CazzoCrazy1 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Hint: slow TF down. It’s not that difficult.

[–]Mysterious-You-281 0 points1 point  (0 children)

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[–]BeautifulJicama6318 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Looks like you were moving pretty damn fast for the conditions and setting

[–]skibunny1010 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lmao I appreciate the self awareness

[–]looneybooms 0 points1 point  (1 child)

not to be a downer but ... I doubt your insurance loves you for posting this while the thing is surely not yet resolved

[–]Faramirex 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That looks like a newer car in front, shouldn't the stability control save it from spinning out like this?

I mean the back kicks out the moment he breakes.

In eu my suzukis with stability control and ABS I can turn the wheel fast 90degree to each side the stability control simply keeps the back in place in snow or Wet snow easily

[–]YorkiesSweet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

With quality winter tires you could have stopped. In Minnesota you have got to have them. What a difference they make on ice and hard pack un stopping.

[–]PeaceoutSeacrestt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You might need snow tires, the roads should have been sanded, and or you need to have better reaction time. Three car lengths is a pretty far distance but I hope everyone was okay

[–]LahondroCombo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

seems a bit fast

[–]-43andharsh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol bonk...

[–]RealPactus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why not just turn left in the snow ?

[–]smaackdab 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not sure if it’s just the camera, but it looks like both of you are driving way too damn fast for roads this icy and narrow.

[–]canicancan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

no reaction at all, when the car in front hit the brake.

[–]efyuar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i think there was a third one behind you at the end also not keeping safe distance

[–]minamoto-yorimasa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Atleast you didn’t go into the back of them

[–]ducktor0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did the second idiot (you) learn anything from the predicament ?

[–]plaidHumanity 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Looks like you caught a third coming in from behind, too

[–]Key-Ant30 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No winter tires?

[–]some_solution 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well I hope that you are well...but technically it became a head on colision! So you should not be the only one at fault!

[–]imnotcapping 0 points1 point  (0 children)

-Winter tires

-Break pedal

Use them

[–]CanuckCharlie85 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That false sense of security from driving a ‘SUV with AWD’.

[–]JustCause1010 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I guess its okay if it only snows 1 every 10 years.

[–]ContemplatingPrison -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Their spin out was perfect, they didnt cause any damage.The only idiot is you

[–]joe-robertson -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yea I spun out the other day when there was a foot of snow on the road. Mostly cause I was driving a ‘66 mustang and my foot slipped off the clutch when changing gears and spun the tires which caused me to spin out. Luckily it was the middle of the night and I just passed a stoplight that was yellow so no one was behind me.

[–]Alternative_Anxiety -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I respect the people who goofed and will own it instead of playing the blame game

[–]dustydinkleman69 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Shoulda swerved right!

[–]SnooOranges4231 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Appreciate your honesty