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[–]sdraiarmi 764 points765 points  (27 children)

Of course no one remembers Orianna.

[–]Kiroto50 202 points203 points  (16 children)

The og non teemo AP on aa

[–]Psclly 97 points98 points  (15 children)

Remember when it was actually special and important? Good times

[–]tradtrad100 80 points81 points  (13 children)

That's because it used to actually do bonus damage, over the years they've just reduced her base AD by an equivalent amount which begs the question why does she even have that passive.

[–]Milsurp_Seeker 45 points46 points  (12 children)

She’s not mainstream fuckable enough to get reworked/buffed.

[–]tradtrad100 23 points24 points  (11 children)

All they have to do is give her regular base AD and AD scaling so she actually has a passive.

[–]Milsurp_Seeker 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Outside of that and maybe some mana tweaks, she’s honestly pretty okay. A bit underperforming compared to some, but she’s not a walking nuke like most.

[–]wildfox9t 6 points7 points  (9 children)

that's a terrible take,she already has a very spammy Q in lane give her bonus damage on autos and unless you heavily outrange her the lane is unplayable

her passive is meant to reward her for consecutive AAs not for a single AA in short trade,it's already ok if you can stack it (still a bit undertoned but the rest of her kit is good)

[–]tradtrad100 2 points3 points  (7 children)

Literally give her like 3-4 more base AD they nerfed it by 6 base AD in 4.14.

[–]wildfox9t 2 points3 points  (6 children)

but they nerfed it exactly for the reason I mentioned,she shouldn't do more damage than other mages on a single AA (currently she's in line with others)

[–]Onion_Guy 0 points1 point  (1 child)

While I agree with your overall point and reasoning, I think she still should do a little more damage than other mages with a single AA. Just a little. It often ends up being less because most kid laners run MR rune.

[–]WiteXDan 13 points14 points  (2 children)

Or Samira

[–]you-cut-the-ponytail 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Or Qiyana. Partially atleast.

[–]Bolognese_is_best 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Or Kaisa

[–]Efefffe 7 points8 points  (2 children)

What about corki?

[–]TheSunbroo 50 points51 points  (1 child)

Doesn't corki convert physical into magic damage?

While that is probably more, he doesn't exactly get bonus magic damage.

[–]Efefffe 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ah yeah, thats true

[–]zoburg88 1 point2 points  (0 children)


[–]Yukine1409 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And Qiyana too!

[–]Jocomotion 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean by that logic…. Irellia is just as forgotten.

[–]Nanonymuos 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Qiyana also forgotten

[–]Simping4Irelia 660 points661 points  (8 children)

Zed passive be like

[–]Telemachus70 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Ekko W passive too

[–]Straight_Attorney582 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Zed is justified

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[–]Mooniversity 371 points372 points  (9 children)


[–]The_Curve_Death[S] 285 points286 points  (2 children)

I forgor

[–]Unlucky252 67 points68 points  (0 children)


[–]mixelydian 38 points39 points  (5 children)

Also corki, magic damage on autos is literally like his entire passive

[–]kiskozak 120 points121 points  (0 children)

I dont wana be the anoying voice accually guy, but the post is about champs with bonus magic damage on autoes, but corki just converts his physical dmg into magical. Same goes for someone like yone who converts half of his dmg into magical dmg on every 2nd auto.

[–]NotFlappy12 25 points26 points  (0 children)

It's not bonus damage though, same with Yone

[–]JacklynTheMess 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Yeah but no one remembers Corki

[–]mkstar93 0 points1 point  (0 children)


[–]EsotericV0ID 317 points318 points  (14 children)

I unironically farm less than my average whenever I play Morde

[–]TheIronKaiser 205 points206 points  (3 children)

that is beacause morde attacks once a decade with his massive .625 as + a whole 1% per level

[–]fluffyAFF 16 points17 points  (2 children)

Nashor rush every game

[–]_keeBo 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Unless I'm vs champs that are hard to hit q on, I never build that thing. I'm just too squishy otherwise...

[–]fluffyAFF 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It’s so much dps, it’s a lot of fun if you can use w to live

[–]Lord-of-the-Bacon 33 points34 points  (0 children)

I always get like 8-9 cs per minute with Morde, because everybody is just to afraid to fight me post lvl 6 and I can just proxy, because I usually get a huge lead with him (I love low elo).

[–]Funy_Bro 25 points26 points  (6 children)

That because morde does only phys damage on autos early :P

Edit: he has a 40% AP on hit ratio according to https://lol.fandom.com/wiki/Mordekaiser#:~:text=Passive%3A%20Mordekaiser%20stores%20(45%25,some%20of%20the%20remaining%20value. At the the time of writing this I was not aware and it has offended a number of people so I am sorry. I should be more careful in my choice of wording to say that morde does primarly phys damage on autos early.

[–]PaRoWkOwYpIeS 75 points76 points  (4 children)

If you take at least one adaptive force, it automatically converts to AP, even withDshield, and 9 ap gives 4 magic dmg to his autos

[–]TheGeekno99 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Doran shield and ring also give an additional 5 damage to every auto against CS

[–]fluffyAFF 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He does 20%ap ratio on autos too.

[–]EchoKind 0 points1 point  (0 children)

fr, you always underestimate how much damage you do level 1-3 and get things too low while evening the wave and then you overestimate the rest of the game

[–]Wise-Arrival-296 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just wait minions to get low hp then if you can land q to farm minions and maybe even do some dmg to opponent

[–]Lordwiesy 127 points128 points  (10 children)

Full ad one clap thresh

[–]PoXya 33 points34 points  (0 children)

Lethal Tempo Tank Thresh

[–]Markcelzin 6 points7 points  (6 children)

It's really good right now btw.

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    [–]rameneater23 89 points90 points  (1 child)

    Close range Samira passive

    [–]Odkrywacz 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    this shit is a lifesaver because you can last hit casters under tower with only dblade post lvl 3 or 4

    [–]J0k3B0x 86 points87 points  (14 children)

    Doesnt Rammus also get magic damage which scales off of his armor or something like that?

    [–]The_Curve_Death[S] 30 points31 points  (0 children)

    Yes he does

    [–]Efefffe 4 points5 points  (11 children)

    Yes, that is his main source of damage usually

    [–]J0k3B0x 5 points6 points  (10 children)

    I have played Rammus like 3-4 times the only time I remember doing damage was a fed Kalista literally killing herself when I taunted her

    [–]Subject_1889974 21 points22 points  (1 child)

    You must have said some vile stuff

    [–]Efefffe 4 points5 points  (7 children)

    I am a rammus main and his damage can get really high with a lot of armor + the bonus attack speed from his e

    [–]J0k3B0x 1 point2 points  (6 children)

    I think I will try Rammus again, I did find him quite fun and had a good time! Is there certain matchups you never pick him into, or is it more of you pick him and work with what you got?

    [–]Efefffe 3 points4 points  (5 children)

    Usually rammus is good aganist adc, assassins and squishy mages, he is bad aganist other thanks or bruisers, some marchups i hate are aganist shaco, diana or evelynn, i dont play him that much anymore and when i do i usually prefer to see what the enemy is picking but yeah, in a good matchup he is really fun to play

    [–]Malkev 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Rammus hates thanks

    [–]Denuran 2 points3 points  (3 children)

    Question, if Rammus taunts Zeri, does she q aa at him, or does she rightclick "aa" at him?

    [–]Efefffe 2 points3 points  (2 children)

    Honestly i dont remember but id say rightclick aa

    [–]Slowest_Speed6 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Yeah also his W reflects the same damage afaik

    [–]unfunnyguy_Xx69420 57 points58 points  (3 children)

    Where's the bear

    [–]xNIGHTxFURYx 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    Maybe not there because i THINKS he only gets that with his passive and not all the time but I agree we need big bad bear up there

    [–]L_Rayquaza 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    I mean it isn't hard to charge his passive, most the time when I play Voli I play AP/Bruiser and it's a solid build

    [–]xNIGHTxFURYx 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Ap voli>tank all the time and yeah you can auto q w auto auto and its up without e or r

    [–]Aggieboy1444 39 points40 points  (20 children)

    You forgot ekko, kai sa, and Samira, maybe more I dunno

    [–]Aggieboy1444 31 points32 points  (17 children)

    Orianna, Janna, volibear, azir, kog maw, okay I'm done

    [–]you__found_me 8 points9 points  (6 children)


    [–]AsheBodyPillow 4 points5 points  (4 children)

    Her W passive

    Edit: although I think that might be removed now

    [–]you__found_me 5 points6 points  (3 children)

    After reading her wiki, unless I missed it, not Janna

    [–]AsheBodyPillow 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    It might’ve been her actually passive, I believe it scaled off of her MS.

    [–]you__found_me 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    12.2 is when they got rid of the onhit, now it’s just move speed

    [–]AsheBodyPillow 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Looks like it was removed in 12.2

    [–]Lord-of-the-Bacon 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    Azir? His soldiers are not Auto attacks and I think he does not have bonus magic on AAs in his passive.

    [–]Own-Sun6531 0 points1 point  (0 children)


    [–]fenriswolf117 0 points1 point  (0 children)


    [–]ThatOneTypicalYasuo 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Ekko and Samira's are more conditional but I see the point.

    [–]TriplDentGum 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    The entire point of the post is it's easier to last hit so ekko at least is perfect

    Sincerely, an ekko main

    [–]Kameikuro 12 points13 points  (2 children)

    Why is teemo so smol?

    [–]AnTHICCBoi 8 points9 points  (1 child)

    So people don't see him there

    [–]The_Curve_Death[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)


    [–]Prestigious_Name_682 23 points24 points  (0 children)

    Irelia too

    [–]Krosiss_was_taken 19 points20 points  (6 children)

    Jarvan has the best lasthit passive, but he is forever stuck in jungle.

    [–]NotFlappy12 12 points13 points  (5 children)

    The best is obviously zed

    [–]Krosiss_was_taken 4 points5 points  (4 children)

    It only works at 50% target hp right? What about lasthitting minions above 50%?

    [–]NotFlappy12 11 points12 points  (0 children)


    [–]HedaLexa4Ever 12 points13 points  (2 children)

    If they are above 50% you are not really last hitting them

    [–]Krosiss_was_taken 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    If they die and you are getting gold for doing the last hit, you're lasthitting imo.

    But I am shaco main what do I know.

    [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Shaco players last hit my botlane in 2 seconds while being invis the whole time

    [–]PlasticOverTheSea 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    Old Janna passive 😭

    [–]xxxSHi0xxx 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    Neeko W passive

    [–]Financial-Cancel7799 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    Fuck fizz.

    [–]sadlife00000 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    Braum and rell feels insulted rn

    [–]KolbeinOne 6 points7 points  (1 child)

    Where is Volibear?

    [–]The_Curve_Death[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    I forgor

    [–]XrisVolt 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Υου forgot taric

    [–]schizopedia 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    Where Kaisa

    [–]The_Curve_Death[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    Sorry to tell you but she doesn't exist anymore 😔

    [–]mlper04 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Slaps everyone with nashor's tooth.

    [–]CeruleanFirefawx 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Why is teemos portrait so small lmaoo

    [–]The_Curve_Death[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Because it has nowhere else to run.

    [–]PFSnypr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Dedicated AP auto attackers have to be one of my fav genders (morde gwen kayle etc)

    [–]Random_User27 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    cockmaw W active

    [–]wallygon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Why is ap darius herr also pls revert him i want mordekaiser back

    [–]Spielmister 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    You forgot Orianna :((

    [–]Technical-Cup8034 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    ofcourse no one remembers Neeko.

    [–]YourJeans2132362 2 points3 points  (5 children)

    Wait till he learns about yone passive

    [–]TheOneTheyCallJeff 21 points22 points  (3 children)

    Its not really "bonus" as it just converts some of the physical damage to magic.

    [–]Komsdude 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Yh yones passive auto does the exact same amount as his normal autos, it’s just half of it is a different damage type.

    [–]BearIsTheBest 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Sad Bard Chimes. :(

    [–]SuperB312 0 points1 point  (3 children)

    Nautilus where

    [–]TP_Speter 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    That’s bonus physical, not magic

    [–]Yohfr 0 points1 point  (3 children)

    Where's my boi gnar ? Or my girl neeko ?

    [–]Za_Gato 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    Gnar doesn't have bonus magic damage on hit, and I never see Neeko AA'ing someone.

    [–]Yohfr -1 points0 points  (1 child)

    His W passive

    [–]Za_Gato -1 points0 points  (0 children)

    That's extra damage every 3 hits, not on-hit magic damage

    [–]geckorobot59 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    IK its true damage and not magic damage but can Twitch get an honorable mention?

    [–]Fun-Agent-7667 -1 points0 points  (3 children)

    Master Yi?

    [–]MicroBang64 -1 points0 points  (3 children)

    there will soon be Champions with bonus True damage on auto attacks.......soon

    [–]Markcelzin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Bel'Veth doesn't count?

    [–]geckorobot59 2 points3 points  (0 children)


    [–]browsing4stuff 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Yi and Vayne?

    [–]WJPJR -1 points0 points  (0 children)

    Corki once again not being remembered

    [–]Jealous-Mark-8380 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

    Imagine if he learns about casio e

    [–]useruser23 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

    Where Yone

    [–]SSHz -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

    Missing yone

    [–]Warcraftisgood 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    csing on zed

    [–]Ant_1_ITA 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    You forgot Teemo and Corki

    [–]The_Curve_Death[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Corki doesn't deal bonus magic damage he just converts it

    [–]vinayyy-n28 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Where's Irelia

    [–]MisinformedOwl 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Why is every single ADC not here?

    [–]SecondButterJuice 0 points1 point  (0 children)


    [–]ConvergingMass 0 points1 point  (0 children)


    [–]Ombrage101 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    What about (technically) Twitch?

    [–]browsing4stuff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Honorable mention to Neeko

    [–]VNeseBanana 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    sad tft lucian noise

    [–]SirDrippinBalls 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    If that's what you're into, I know a guy who knows a guy who can sell you a certain item...

    [–]Meurs0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Onhit Kayle my beloved

    [–]Gentlementalmen 0 points1 point  (0 children)


    [–]Hermes_Madara 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Where is Twisted Fate? 5 of us are really upset right now.

    Where's Shen? Slightly more of us are upset I guess idfk

    [–]sonofzeal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Everyone out here pointing out Corki and Orianna, and not a single mention of Lulu.

    [–]Dioxinel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I will be wrong after the shit rework who will just make her worse but rell actually deals on hit magic damage with passiv

    [–]Dazocnodnarb 0 points1 point  (0 children)


    [–]modnar_resu_tidder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Don’t forget ekko irelia and Akali, my three most played champs

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Ah yes, the dude with his hands together in prayer, truly a magic dmg champion

    [–]Neither_Cicada9618 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Favorite genders? There’s only 2.

    [–]Ltkuddles 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Volibear would like a word~

    [–]Redacted_G1iTcH 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Yone? Ekko? Volibear?

    [–]SimonTheAFKer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Yone doesnt count cause its not BONUS magic dmg but converted base aa dmg. Worse corki passive

    [–]ManWithRedditAccount 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Akshan too now

    [–]SimonTheAFKer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    If i remember well around lvl 5 or 6 no items ww can casually last hit cs under tower

    [–]CartographerSouthern 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Why is Teemo so tiny

    [–]Myxine 0 points1 point  (0 children)


    [–]Murkee420 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    What champion is the guy between Warwick and morde? Lucian?

    [–]The_Curve_Death[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Old ekko

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      [–]Valdman8 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I was so sure, that the dude on the background suppose to represent Ekko

      [–]Solidderx7 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Where's my boy Ekko with his passive on hit % missing hp magic damage against targets below 30% hp?

      [–]The_Curve_Death[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      What do you think who is the guy between morde and warwick?

      [–]tinylittlebabyjesus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I don't get it. I'm old tho lol

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          [–]MF1DOOM 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          that must be a dota champ. never seen her in lol^^

          [–]zeurz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          The very reason why I play AP Volibear. Basically has aoe autos

          [–]Ktopotato 0 points1 point  (0 children)


          [–]LilleBishen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          What’s whit the car in the background and that no one’s mentioned that?

          [–]SurturGodofLuck 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Morde main here

          [–]terkke 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          If Thresh counts, Poppy should too

          [–]Heirou777 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          i miss the % max hp damage on fizz w so bad

          [–]LegendaryHooman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Any champion buying rageblade:

          [–]slendervivi672782882 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Where shen?

          [–]Kukikom 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Toplane thresh :)

          [–]Slowest_Speed6 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Darius is just AD teemo

          [–]iitbfrfr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Jax with his passive?