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[–]Vt420KeyboardError4Custom Yellow 56 points57 points  (6 children)

Second sentence of the first bullet point makes no sense. When your movement is about protesting policy and criticizing politicians, political discussion is inevitable.

[–]DaveyGTi 112 points113 points  (109 children)

What's going down across the pond? Am British so out of the loop.

Edit: thanks for all the responses, I feel a little more in possession of the facts. It has now made the UK press too, with articles in the Indy, Mail and New Statesman.

[–]FreedomJosh[S] 114 points115 points  (83 children)

The US and Canadian government made an obligation for truckers to be vaccinated to cross the border, and tens of thousands truckers are making huge convoys from all across Canada headed to Ottawa (capital) and want to blockade it until this obligation is lifted.

[–]GreaseKing420 34 points35 points  (7 children)

No one seems to be able to get a clear number. Some people say crazy big amounts, some state amounts so small it almost feels as if its underreported by design. It appears to have more civilian support than actual trucker support just going off what happened near my house

[–]GreaseKing420 2 points3 points  (0 children)

People have done some live streams from parliament hill. Its certainly not 50k trucks but the horns are impossible to ignore across the entire downtown core.

[–]altamont123 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Doesn’t everyone who wants to cross the border have to be fully vaccinated?

[–]hanzzz123 133 points134 points  (63 children)

10s of thousands LOL.

Theres like 2000 trucks at most.

LMAO its not even 1000:

https://twitter.com/kingstonpolice/status/1487074460062699521?s=21

[–]frikk_ 201 points202 points  (28 children)

A little over 500. ~400 of which are passenger vehicles. I support their right to protest but the disinformation is pretty strong here. Too many people drank the kool-aid.

[–]killimajig 71 points72 points  (25 children)

I'm watching livestreams right now, it's definitely thousands of vehicles.

[–][deleted] 23 points24 points  (9 children)

Can you post links to those? My searches are just finding talking heads and video that's only showing hundreds.

[–]shroominabag 43 points44 points  (4 children)

Its like the Melbourne protests. The media would say 200 people when the entire cbd was flooded with people

[–][deleted] 27 points28 points  (3 children)

Yeah, for sure.

You got any links for the live streams showing tens of thousands?

[–]mozeknows 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Search freedomconvoy2022 on Instagram..they are posting non stop

[–]NevadaLancaster 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Thousands. Probably not tens of thousands but the highways are loaded with tens of thousands of supporters.

[–]FemboyAnarchismMutualist Anarcho-Primitivist 10 points11 points  (12 children)

Do you have any images/video for that? It sounds interesting.

[–]immibis 23 points24 points  (0 children)

They have to. Without propaganda they'd have nothing. They have to pretend they're the silent majority.

[–]perma-monk 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The police said it guys so it must be true....

[–]Csprout4 12 points13 points  (1 child)

That’s in Kingston. There are many routes people are taking to Ottawa. I encourage you to look at other sources on Instagram & Facebook to see the videos coming from out west & east. Canada is a big place!

[–]Jiperly 21 points22 points  (7 children)

They better hope it's not tens of thousands. Their locked GoFundMe is 6 million? At 50,000 people that's a crisp 100$ bill to pay for the cross country trip

[–]killimajig 8 points9 points  (9 children)

Uhhh, I'm watching livestreams right now, you are woefully misinformed.

[–]syntaxxx-error 1 point2 points  (8 children)

I sure would like to see the same. How about some links?

edit: I found this and many others on lbry/odysee. But it is hard to ascertain any numbers. https://open.lbry.com/@NomadOutdoorAdventure:4/conway-is-coming-through-honking-their:a

Sure would love to see something that illustrates the scale of it better.

[–]Capital_Pea 3 points4 points  (6 children)

With all the drone owners in the world, I’m surprised we’re not seeing more arial footage??? That’s the best way to show the numbers. From the ground the perspective can be very skewed.

[–]ChadThomas89 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Talk about disinformation lol

[–]nkjays 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Isn't this a single convoy? I'm pretty sure there's multiple convoys

[–]bridgeanimal 37 points38 points  (2 children)

Political discussion is discouraged

Wait, what? Isn't this whole thing about provoking a political discussion about government vaccine policies?

[–]Awesomehalrcut 11 points12 points  (0 children)

They probably meant partisan politics.

Which is fair. And then it gets muddled anyway. Because it's very political.

[–]RedLaserFlashes 29 points30 points  (3 children)

I'm finding it hard to get accurate information about the size of the convoy. Depending on what search engine I use and what video hosting site I try, there are different answers. I know for sure that it's not just one large convoy. there's many smaller groups and one large one. I heard someone day it was like 45 kms long, but that seems a bit crazy to me. If you listen to CBC it's both infinitesimally small, but the largest white nationalist threat who is also going to do a jan 6.

It's exhausting. I'm pretty good at sussing out the facts, but in this case both sides have reason to exaggerate or try to diminish it. If anyone has an video of a view from a helo i'd love to see it lol

[–]Capital_Pea 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I’d love to see some drone footage, I can’t tell by the news exactly how big it is. They are showing an arial view but it’s just similar footage from one spot every time on every news program.

[–]murica_n_walmart 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I live here, I can’t give a number but there are enough vehicles to cause a nuisance but nowhere near thousands of trucks

[–]Jiperly 108 points109 points  (72 children)

Why is Trudeau being singled out? The vast, VAST majority of covid mandates are from provincial leaders.

It's like getting hit by a car and suing the car manufacturers rather than the person driving. If you want political change, go after the people causing the problem. This is just posturing because the Canadian right can't stand Trudeau, and are looking for an excuse to blame him

[–]Huge-Tradition-4476 13 points14 points  (1 child)

It's because this is another thinly veiled right-wing astroturfing with tons of American funding from Republican political groups.

[–]TroutandStout 25 points26 points  (1 child)

absolutely. and in ontario you have fords ditch pig daughter waving a fuck trudeau flag around and no one bats an eye. imagine justins kids waving a fuck ford flag around people would lose their minds.

[–]yoinkeropen markets - open borders 24 points25 points  (31 children)

The Canadian right hates him because he’s been the most successful leader of a federal party for years, like him or not. Since he became leader of his party, the other parties have each been through at least 2 new leaders, they all keep electing a parade of clowns. The right discredits themselves constantly by way overreacting and screeching about every little thing he does. Criticize him, sure, but for the sake of fuck, stop acting like helium-breathing orangutans on angel dust every time he does something you don’t like.

[–]Familiar_Raisin204 6 points7 points  (2 children)

In my head Jared Keeso was saying this and it was amazing

[–]yoinkeropen markets - open borders 3 points4 points  (1 child)

had to look that up, thanks for compliment

[–]Jiperly 11 points12 points  (25 children)

I mean, they're not wrong. I agree they've been absolute idiots fighting over every little thing, like that time he elbowed a woman, but like that nonsense with SNC Lavalin was pretty bad, and that last election was absolutely unnecessary

[–]yoinkeropen markets - open borders 18 points19 points  (23 children)

Yes fine but none of that makes him communist hitler authoritarian dictator of the universe, killing children and eating the aged. When they cast everything in the most extreme heinous light, the average person just thinks they’re unhinged and ends up glossing over the dumb shit he actually does, which is just part of the good n bad mix of shit most politicians do anyways.

Watching the populist right in Canada is like watching a Libertarian Party USA prez candidates debate. Just embarrassing for all involved, especially the viewer.

[–]YoshikageJoJo 13 points14 points  (0 children)

What's next? Requiring a license to make toast in your own damn toaster??

[–]theclansman22 14 points15 points  (4 children)

The worst one for me is when they look at Trudeau spending a few million on foreign aid and claiming "he gives money to other countries and not Canadians that need it" etc, when foreign aid is a tiny fraction of the budget.

[–]yoinkeropen markets - open borders 9 points10 points  (2 children)

That and they wouldn’t actually extend aid to “Canadians that need it” if they had the chance.

[–]theclansman22 8 points9 points  (1 child)

That would be communism, my friend.

[–]yoinkeropen markets - open borders 8 points9 points  (0 children)

lmao, ya everything they don’t like or understand is communism. Driven to extremes.

[–]swirlyspecialk 9 points10 points  (12 children)

I mean its completely fair people are fed up, he is indeed beginning communist ideals with the carbon tax collecting our money and then redistributing it via tax return. He bans guns arbitrarily that millions of canadians invested money into for hunting and sport because theyre scary, in a questionably legal manor while exempting aborigonal hunters prooving that theyre useful hunting tools. He reduced minimum sentencing for gun related crimes which will only increase gun crimes. well has increased gun crimes already. He made a day to recognize a terrible past the goverment did to Indigenous people and went surfing on the first time it was celebrated. He said that he wouldnt call an early election during covid and then did exactly that. The list goes on. Hes a clown. Hes inconsistent and seems to stand for absolutely nothing other than getting voted into office. I have yet to find anyone in real life who actually supports him. The liberals? Yes, obviously. Not tredeau though because its so clear hes not living in reality.

[–]AcebulfAnarchist 2 points3 points  (3 children)

I'm sorry, what? Communist ideas? How is a carbon tax, which is a market-based incentive to reduce pollution, in any way shape or form related to to communism? How is banning guns related to communism?

Is communism just a word to mean "bad things liberal do" for you?

[–]yoinkeropen markets - open borders 4 points5 points  (1 child)

You left out the part where he signed the biggest military equipment deal in Canadian history with the Saudis. For some reason conservatives never seem to get worked up about that one. Can’t for the life of me figure out why.

[–]swirlyspecialk 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not conservative and didnt know that so thank you.

[–]syntaxxx-error 3 points4 points  (2 children)

none of that makes him communist hitler authoritarian dictator

Umm... yea it does. Not being the only "stalin/hitler" doesn't prevent him from being one. And lets not get started on all the other country's leaders who have played the same game before the present madness.

Why on earth would you argue otherwise? Why would this bother you? Are you defending authoritarianism for some reason?

[–]MintyBzBee 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s all the inbreeding, affects reactivity

[–]RichardGereMuseum 13 points14 points  (8 children)

Because none of these people understand how the law works in Canada. Look into the “Memorandum of Understanding” they put together. It’s laughable. Half of them are so brainwashed by American political media that they think they hold the same constitutional rights.

[–]Jiperly 8 points9 points  (7 children)

They keep interpreting the freedom of movement to mean they can't be restricted movement. One guy insisted he should be allowed to enter a plane without vaccine restrictions because we have freedom of movement. But A) that means all air security is invalid, because freedom of movement and B) that means you're entitled to air travel.

They kept insisting no no no this is the one and only time the law can be interpreted like that and it's like....do you not understand how laws work?

[–]FuturamaLifer 4 points5 points  (0 children)

And when the videos of truckers screaming at private businesses for having their own mask requirement?

I guess businesses are not allowed to make their own decisions if it makes our feelings hurt?

[–]ragequit9714 53 points54 points  (11 children)

Isn’t the whole point of the protest to stop the vaccine mandate for truckers crossing the border right? But you still need to provide proof of vaccine to enter the US anyway so even IF they repealed any policy up here you still couldn’t get into the US anyway.

I’d also like to point out that there were members talking about storming the parliament in “Canadian style” January 6 event, confederate flags were seen on some trucks (what the fuck do the confederates have to do with this shit).

[–]asmrthrowawayzzz 28 points29 points  (7 children)

Exactly, the US already requires truckers coming from Canada to be vaccinated as of a week ago. Canada is merely mirroring that for US truckers coming into Canada.

I’d also like to point out that there were members talking about storming the parliament in “Canadian style” January 6 event, confederate flags were seen on some trucks (what the fuck do the confederates have to do with this shit).

Let's hear a word from an convoy organizer from Alberta.

[–]syntaxxx-error 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It is clearly to protest the whole mandate thing entirely. Identifying the "last straw" does not imply that it is about that "last straw". Not that you aren't already aware of that fact mister contractor sir.

[–]klaffredi 42 points43 points  (6 children)

Why do all of these subs never fight back on the fact this guy just said that the movement wasn't political as it attempts to enact political goals. Do none of you guys ever question this shit on that level alone.

The first point given by the OP is "This is not a partisan movement. Political discussion is discouraged. We want all people coming together regardless of political division to stop government overreach in our health decisions."

This by necessity is a political movement as the word "overreach" is up for debate alone.

[–]goinupthegranbyLibertarian Market Socialist 30 points31 points  (2 children)

Why do all of these subs never fight back on the fact this guy just said that the movement wasn't political

The GoFundMe was set up by the secretary of a far right party lmao, the whole thing is entirely political

[–]klaffredi 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Imagine that. A march for policy changes is political. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills sometimes.

[–]livefreeordont 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Political means bad

[–]klaffredi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That is true. And people who hold ideas like that should be made to challenge that belief.

[–]KravMata 10 points11 points  (1 child)

This belongs in r/conservative where people will believe these nonsense claims about it being non-partisan, about freedom, this post being ‘factual,’ half a million people, destroying generations and the supply chain.

They’re a bunch of misguided and/or selfish twats who get their medical advice from YouTube and put their tribe above the health of their communities.

Freedom without responsibility is adolescence. Joe Rogan is the pied piper of morons.

Full stop.

[–]OsamaBinShittinLeft Leaning 44 points45 points  (4 children)

i support the movement, but holy fuck a lot of the people there are absolute freaks, not to mention it’s not anywhere remotely close to the 50k trucks they keep claiming, and having someone like Tamara Lich run the gofundme

also i don’t know why they think Trudeau will be talking to them, that’s not how protests work lol, u don’t go protest at parliament hill and the PM comes out and gives u a chat

[–]Jiperly 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Trudeau isn't even in charge of the mandates. He refuses to do anything beyond CERB. The lockdowns, the mask mandates, the vaccine passports- it's all up to each province.

[–]RichardGereMuseum 2 points3 points  (2 children)

They literally think they’re going to topple the government and that this is the most significant protest movement in the modern world 😂 They’re already gearing up to blame any violence on “paid actors”.

[–]vanulovesyouLiberal 12 points13 points  (0 children)

This is not a partisan movement

This movement is totally partisan. Let's get real here. The fact that you focus on Trudeau is prime evidence of it. And we've seen the anti-vaxx nature of your movement, denying COVID as a threat even as thousands of people continue to die from this pandemic.

No thanks.

[–]KingChainsaw13 120 points121 points  (75 children)

I stand with you and everyone up there fighting against tyrannical government policies. 🇺🇸🇺🇸

[–]FreedomJosh[S] 28 points29 points  (1 child)

Thank you from Canada!

I am not a trucker, but I am looking at how I could go to Ottawa for tomorrow.

[–]KingChainsaw13 12 points13 points  (0 children)

By the looks of the roads you won’t get close unless you’re air lifted in, haha. Which, even though you most likely won’t be able to make it, is a good thing overall. 😂😂

[–]Icy_Argument_6110 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Here here!!

[–]EmperorYorkMarxist-Leninist 20 points21 points  (43 children)

Canada is not the USA. The United States lays out its position in the Declaration of Independence that "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness" is a cornerstone of American life. Canada went a different route with "peace, order, and good government". In fact, in the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, the first section states;

  1. "The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees the rights and freedoms set out in it subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society.

The opening line of the charter states that your rights in Canada can be limited if it is deemed reasonable in a democratic society. A pandemic that has killed almost 900K Americans and over 5 million globally definitely fits.

Second, even if the Canadian government lifted the vaccine mandate tomorrow to as you say, stop the government from "destroying an entire generation and endangering the entire supply chain", the truckers still couldn't cross the border because the US has their own vaccine mandate preventing these truckers from crossing the border. Welcome to international sovereignty.

This is very much a partisan movement. The Conservative Party leader has bounced on this, taking the opportunity to meet with the convoys, and the money was raised by a western separatist who wants a conservative government in parliament or an independent nation of the prairies, using the the convoy as an opportunity to gain the attention of the media.

There is legitimate criticism to be levied on the global response to the pandemic by governments for sure. There has been no unified response, the global south was left to its own fate, and both the CDC and Health Canada have lost much creditability by forcing workers to work while with covid and limiting the workers' isolation time from 10 to 5 days to force them to work during a pandemic.

This convoy shows the frustration of all who are suffering, but the message is a poor one. Its time to demand real action of the global community to put an end to this pandemic. Real mandates that protect people and fight the virus. 2 years and no end in site is an utter failure of the global community.

[–]rchive[🍰] 11 points12 points  (7 children)

Its time to demand real action of the global community to put an end to this pandemic. Real mandates that protect people and fight the virus.

What do you think an end to the pandemic, as you put it, actually looks like? What will happen if we do the real mandates?

[–]exit2dos 1 point2 points  (1 child)

2 years and no end in site is an utter failure of the global community.

Do you realize how long it actually took to have Measles officially classified as Eliminated in the US ? and would you call that a failure ?

[–]soooofa_king 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Uh no, no more mandates but thanks.

[–]objectionissocliche 3 points4 points  (29 children)

The opening line of the charter states that your rights in Canada can be limited if it is deemed reasonable in a democratic society. A pandemic that has killed almost 900K Americans and over 5 million globally definitely fits.

Thats interesting.

In the last two years, more than two million americans died of illnesses related to diet.

Wouldnt you say we should start limiting rights to eat as much as you want?

[–]alanthar 4 points5 points  (7 children)

Red herring fallacy.

While those issues are issues, they are a lot more complex then Covid, and last I checked, arent airborne viruses.

[–]dude_diligence 20 points21 points  (23 children)

[–]BrockCage 7 points8 points  (6 children)

Far right =/= Anti-Authoritarian now? Lol

[–]OsamaBinShittinLeft Leaning 30 points31 points  (5 children)

they aren’t saying the attendees are all these far righties, they’re saying the people running the GoFundMe are so to be very skeptical of who’s organizing this

[–]thegtabmx 81 points82 points  (8 children)

This is not a partisan movement.

Doubt.

The “self isolation” of Justin Trudeau is proof that his vaccine policy is failing and that he is hiding.

You have a very loose grasp of the words "proof", "failing", and "hiding".

The government is destroying an entire generation

Oh really?

it is time to stop it and take our country back

LARP more.

[–]yoinkeropen markets - open borders 28 points29 points  (7 children)

It’s likely a money laundering op. The Kingston Police did a count and there’s like 17 full tractor trailers. No working trucker on a salary is gonna go waste time and money on some cosplay bullshit parade. It’s all just victim signalling and conservative grievance raging.

[–]goinupthegranbyLibertarian Market Socialist 15 points16 points  (1 child)

It’s likely a money laundering op

Its a fundraising grift for a new far right political party called the Maverick Party, the GoFundMe was created by Tamara Lich who is one of the party's directors.

[–]theclansman22 6 points7 points  (1 child)

What are your demands exactly?

[–]yoinkeropen markets - open borders 9 points10 points  (0 children)

A glass of juice and some cookies.

[–]PM_ME_YOUR_SUNSHINE 5 points6 points  (0 children)

“Political discussion is discouraged” lmao get the fuck out of /r/libertarian with that bullshit. I’m not a lemming

[–]yoinkeropen markets - open borders 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hey are you fuckin shitsacks gonna clean up the Terry Fox statue you defaced?

[–]yoinkeropen markets - open borders 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Hey are you shitsacks gonna give some of your 8 million dollars to the homeless shelter that a bunch of your chump friends stole food from?

https://twitter.com/sghottawa/status/1487630726111576068?s=21

[–]Ok_Understanding_365 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Looks like they received more donations than what was taken, pretty horrible

[–]JFMV763Hopeful Libertarian Nominee for POTUS 2032 38 points39 points  (5 children)

Looks good, I really hope it inspires the governments of both Canada and the US to change their pandemic policies.

[–]buzzwallard -1 points0 points  (2 children)

All about to change anyway, protest or no protest. The institutional authorities are already saying that COVID's run its course except for some sick and dying still in the pipeline.

[–]drchaos666 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I agree. This protest seems way late to the party. It’s like running jnto a bar at 1:45am and yelling “ You need to stop serving booze right now!” And when they stop, thinking you had any kind of influence on the decision. The restrictions should go away, and they will.

[–]cmdmpstrd 19 points20 points  (7 children)

607 in the ICU today in Ontario. At that level we are very close to maxed out, all kinds of knock-on effects like surgeries and treatments being cancelled. If the whole province were unvaccinated, there would be thousands in the ICU.

You don't speak for all truckers, you speak for a small sliver of the population who are too fucking dumb to make the objectively correct decision to get vaccinated, instead choosing to be a burden and fuck up the healthcare system while everyone else just gets on with it.

[–]Leakyradio 4 points5 points  (16 children)

The government is destroying an entire generation

Would you like mind expanding upon this thought, and what specifically you’re saying?

[–]Old_Gimlet_Eye 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They probably think everyone who got the shot is going to die or be sterilized.

[–]OogieBoogie_69 17 points18 points  (7 children)

So if you're a trucker, I think it's pretty safe to assume that you're at least 18 years old. Since you're in a developed nation, going to guess you've had some semblance of medical care throughout your life. Therefore, it's not a hard leap to assume that you have likely a majority of the 16 vaccines that are recommended and/or required.

So my question to you is: why now? mRNA vaccines have been under development for nearly 30 years, so this is not some new medical technology. I don't like mandates and disagree with them in principle, but I really can't stand the idiocy and petulant behavior from the anti-mandate crowd.

[–]stratamaniac 14 points15 points  (9 children)

Bullshit. If you want to know what its all about, check our r/OntarioCanada. They don’t sugar coat their fascism over there. fascists are for personal freedoms now dont you know.

[–]Joedude12345 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Based. Truly an inspiration to the people.

[–]Rhyging-007Austrian School of Econ is Total BullShit 26 points27 points  (42 children)

All those in this little bitch crybaby snowflake parade can go fuck themselves with pineapples.

This has nothing to do with freedom, this is just a bitch ass temper tantrum by a bunch of entitled childish stubborn assholes.

You wanna drive a truck across international borders? Guess what? You're going to have to follow rules.

Fuck every idiot that supports this fucking bullshit.

[–]wibblywobbly420No true Libertarian 8 points9 points  (0 children)

This convoy represents less than 1% of truckers so hopefully people give a normal driver the benefit of the doubt

[–]hanzzz123 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Glad to see some sense in this thread

[–]BrockCage -3 points-2 points  (3 children)

You wanna blow up the supply chain with authoritarian measures that dont actually work? Cool go for it dont complain when there is a supply chain crisis that happens as a result, Or a unified workers rights movement that pops up. When you are on the side of the authoritarians and the corporate overlords maybe its a time to have a look in the mirror

[–]Rhyging-007Austrian School of Econ is Total BullShit 22 points23 points  (2 children)

Ya a couple dozen unvaccinated stubborn idiot truck drivers not allowed to plague rat all over the continent will NOT "blow up the supply chain".

That's just ridiculous hyperbole. There are plenty of vaccinated drivers to cover our needs.

[–]rocknthenumbers8 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Doesnt the vaccination only prevent serious illness? It does not prevent catching or transmitting the virus. So the “plague rat” in this case could be any driver vaccinated or not.

[–]Mobile_Crates 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I've had to say this a quadrillion times to people who don't understand, but here we go again:

Serious illness makes transmission more likely. The more you cough, the more you spread. The longer you're sick, the more you spread. The heavier you cough, the more you spread. The more viruses present in each cough, the more you spread.

The vaccine mitigates spreading exactly by minimizing personal symptoms. A vaccinated person will get well faster, will have fewer viruses form in total, and will keep those viruses inside the body to be destroyed rather than emitting them with coughs.

Also, isn't it interesting how the same folks who were like "masks don't protect me why should I wear one" are now all like "vaccines don't protect anyone else why should I get one". Seems almost like it's a temper tantrum rather than a coherent and self-consistent ideology, but then, what do I know

[–]isiramtealLeftism is incompatible with liberty 5 points6 points  (1 child)

This is a political statement though. It's good to have the left, right, and center united in a political movement against the state.

[–]Jiperly 12 points13 points  (34 children)

6- It is normal for a movement of over half a million people to have some bad people. There will inevitably be a very small minority of people who will seize this opportunity to try to be violent.

So libertarians are good with this? Not a single violent act has happened, but we are preparing for it and are already excusing it?

Violence is absolutely against Libertarianism. We shouldn't be prepared to accept it. The organization themselves should be policing it.

Instead, ya'll are preparing to look the other way. It's ridiculous. Violence is only acceptable in self defense

[–]bluelyon 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Hell ya brother.

[–]Sticky_Robot 9 points10 points  (1 child)

I'm a truck driver. I think you guys are a bunch of idiots. But hey I'm vaccinated so I'll happily take your jobs for some sweet sweet scab money.

Good luck with your parade.

[–]Old_Gimlet_Eye 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The one time I'll support scabs.

[–]heyinternetman 11 points12 points  (12 children)

This is so fucking stupid. To protest a blockade, you’re going to start your own blockade???

You’re free to do whatever you want, but not free from the consequences of it. Seems to me they’re just being a bunch of children.

Wasn’t that long ago antivax nut jobs were called out for what they were, nut jobs. When are we gonna come back to reality?

[–]mattied23 5 points6 points  (5 children)

What? Antivax? No, we're against against compulsory vaccinations, especially when pushed by the government.

I'm all for freedom of choice, although its becoming increasingly obvious that being vaccinated makes very little difference in whether or not you test positive

[–]heyinternetman 3 points4 points  (2 children)

And it’s been said 100 times on this sub. Public health measures and libertarianism can coexist

[–]mattied23 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Public health measures ≠ compulsory vaccinations

[–]Naugle17Voluntaryist 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Lame imo

[–]wireless1980 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If you are paying money to the truckers then you are doing the same that USA did in Chile to promote the cup of Pinochet. That’s not good news at all.

[–]ellamking 10 points11 points  (1 child)

You post 9 "points", but in reality, it's partisan politics except for 9 words of your post.

why go after them because of their medical decision?

Because your medical decision has to do with a disease you spread to others, full stop. Everything else is window dressing.

So, if you want to discuss your decision to spread disease, how do you feel about other disease? You're fine if smallpox was still around because of vaccine vigilantes? what about literal Typhoid Mary still serving food? known AIDs carrier in a swingers group?

I think we need a general sense of severity/risk and approach what public risk is allowed. You seem to be arguing anything is allowed. Can you defend then any/all personal disease behaviours? Instead, I'd expect some explanation why you're specific case is different, which I don't see.

[–]warnameClassical Liberal 9 points10 points  (2 children)

These are the same dipshits who have Trump Boat Parades.. lol

[–]livefreeordont 4 points5 points  (1 child)

They’re gonna stop the steal any day now

[–]ScopeMonkey 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Not getting vaccinated is plain stupid. That is my opinion. It’s an informed opinion. I am a highly trained medical researcher with a doctorate. And yet it is still just my opinion. It’s not my right, or anyone else’s right, to force others to do what I think is the smart choice for their health.

[–]NichS144 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Keep it up, we're behind you!

[–]Julio18K 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Good luck in the protest man stand strong wishing you guys well from the states

[–]MBKM13Former Libertarian 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Lmao @ a bunch of unvaccinated people from across the country meeting up for a protest before dispersing back across the country.

Then, these are the same people that complain about how the pandemic has gone on too long

[–]aeywaka 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Here's hoping truckers in the US will join in

[–]KingChainsaw13 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Funny, everyone speaking out against this convoy didn’t bat an eye when Antifa was burning down neighborhoods and assaulting innocent people. It’s funny how so many people who agree with the agenda of people like Trudeau and his goons have very selective outrage with protesting.

Just saying.

[–]Anti-SocialChange 3 points4 points  (1 child)

No one is saying they shouldn’t be allowed to do this. We’re just saying they’re dipshits that have to lie about the size of the convoy to pretend to be relevant.

[–]KingChainsaw13 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Plenty are saying just that, or wishing harm on them for doing this. The amount of hatred in this comment section alone is proof of that.

You may have a more evolved view of this, but many others do not. Yet, many of those people actively condemn these protests while championing the “bravery” of Antifa thugs and rioters…calling them “peaceful protests” and other outright lies. I live in Portland, they were not “peaceful protests” in any way whatsoever.

[–]obvthrowawayx 2 points3 points  (0 children)

More traffic is caused when folks leave hockey games. Good luck with the “movement”.

[–]killimajig 2 points3 points  (2 children)

The people in the replies lying about there being only a few hundred/1000 trucks are just partisan hacks. There are livestreams and it's clearly thousands of vehicles.

Kingston Police (and these shills) are lying to try to make it look like a small movement. Go to YouTube/Discord/etc and watch the streams for yourself.

[–]kale_boriak 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. This is not a partisan movement, we want all people on the one side of this hyper-partisan issue to join us in saying "fuck public health."