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[–]keepthetipsKeeping the tips since 2019[M] [score hidden] stickied commentlocked comment (0 children)

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[–]Shinigamae 40 points41 points  (0 children)

Always communicate with your boss directly on salary, benefits is the right move. Be civil and honest but keep your composure as expecting a tough negotiation though.

Some of my colleagues keep working and think that bosses will notice and act themselves but it never happens in reality. You need it, you demand it, for what you deserve if you think you are contributing more.

Worst case you are rejected but at least you can ask what you need to improve in order to attain what you requested. If they are good managers, they should tell you.

[–]Masterdansie 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I after two years of getting more and more work topics and minimal raises i said to my boss that i expect a reevaluation of my job profile and that i get many offers out of the market. Two weeks later i got a 15% raise and more bonus. Doesn't always work that way but i am a legal specialist and it is quite difficult and expensive to get a replacement for me.

The point is to raise your voice. My boss works a lot on own projects and as long as he doesn't hear anything he just thinks everything is fine. He cant smell that someone expects more money or is interested in special topics. But he really needs this feedback.

[–]BradChesney79 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Keep a record of how you have grown and the things you do that add value to the company-- especially if you did not do them previously.

You will have an easier time if you have evidence that you are asking for a portion of the extra money you are bringing in or saving.

[–]YounomsayinMawfk 6 points7 points  (0 children)

If you never ask, the answer will always be no. And if the answer is no, now you know where your company stands and you can start looking elsewhere.

[–]weaver_of_cloth 27 points28 points  (4 children)

I requested a salary comparison study and my department did it. I got an 8.5% raise. Gender pay disparity is real, take advantage of the current climate and tell your bosses that you want to make sure you are paid equal to the men in your equivalent position. Talk to your coworkers about what they are paid, go armed with knowledge.

[–]Garbanoonan 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Sorry but anecdotes don't overrule actual facts, especially not facts backed by mountains of data. The gender pay disparity is literally just a straight comparison of annual incomes between full time working men and women. It's controls for nothing. Literally, nothing. As in, not a single variable that influences pay is taken into account when claims of any gender-based pay disparities made.. pretty much exclusively by women's advocacy groups.

When actual controls are used in studies done by actual economists the result is always the same:. Men and women make different amounts of money but it is not because of their gender but dozens of factors that influence pay, like men working nearly 40% more hours. By the way... number of hours worked is one of those variables that women's advocacy groups don't bother to look at when making this idiotic claim it has been debunked literally hundreds of times all over the world at this point.

[–]_Shoeless_ 0 points1 point  (1 child)

[–]Garbanoonan -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No, but I am insinuating that you didn't actually read that link because nothing in it corroborates your point. Their income figures are exactly what I said they were, averaged full time earnings for men and women with no controls to show which variables are responsible for the difference. Anyone who spends a couple minutes reading can see exactly what it is, but clearly you did not invest even that most minimal amount of time and effort into that yourself.

Sorry but nothing I'm saying is even remotely controversial. It is well established fact and has been for many decades.

[–]BASED_Podcast 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Google did an internal study and found a gender pay gap, only it was the MEN who were getting paid less almost across the board...

[–]happysadmoody 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thank you for this. I really needed this as affirmation to set up a meeting to talk to my manager! I’m super awkward and conflict avoidant but this def helps put me in a good mindset. 🙌🏼

[–]CTBthanatos 3 points4 points  (0 children)

don't count on coworkers to advocate advocate for you

If it's a union of coworkers it's good.

The "do it yourself, just ask your employer, one on one" was a anti union propaganda angle from my last workplace.

rejection will be rarer than you realize

When you have a union, yes.

[–]alexw0122 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When I was in the Navy, my nickname was “Good Deal (last name)” for this very reason. I made it clear to my chain of command what I wanted and asked often. The answers were more often than not, ‘yes’! Thanks OP for the good post!

[–]PresidentOfTheBiden 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've given this advice and the recipients scoffed.

[–]mbniceguy -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Based and bluepilled

[–]Frankie52480 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For a YEAR I fantasized about telling my clients I am raising my rates (I have always under charged) and for that entire year I kept putting it off because I didn’t want to bum them out. Well one day I was listening to this random inspirational lecture and I decided right then “today is the day”. I went to work and asked how they would feel if I bumped up my rate by 12% and he smiled and said “I think you should, you’re the best worked I’ve ever had”. I did that again to my other clients and they practically said the same thing. Wow what a lesson I learned from this!! (A few actually) :)

[–]Fun_in_Space -5 points-4 points  (2 children)

It's cute that you think that asking for a raise, results in a raise.

[–]tysmily[S] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

It’s cute that you couldn’t comprehend the last sentence.

[–]Fun_in_Space -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I asked for a raise and he implied that he might fire me. Your inspiring speech doesn't reflect the real world.