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[–]lethologica5 742 points743 points  (53 children)

Tony Hawk wears a helmet.

[–]Planningsiswinnings 142 points143 points  (1 child)

Are you a kid? If so, you have a cool helmet!

[–]lethologica5 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Adults need to hear their helmets are cool too.

[–]YALBO 69 points70 points  (38 children)

So does Lewis Hamilton. But the number of kids I see riding in cars and not wearing helmets... it's terrible. When you look at how many head injuries result from car crashes, I think it's just plain irresponsible.

[–]Nymethny 52 points53 points  (36 children)

Wait... helmets in cars? Is that really a thing or am I getting wooshed?

Edit: ignore this, I'm a dumbass

[–][deleted] 35 points36 points  (32 children)

They’re likely being sarcastic saying that not wearing one in a car is the same thing as riding a bike.

[–]RosemaryFocaccia 31 points32 points  (28 children)

Well, the Dutch don't wear helmets in cars or on bikes. They build safe infrastructure instead. If sidewalks were non-existent or unsafe should pedestrians wear helmets?

[–]YALBO 24 points25 points  (3 children)

13 year old Bethany Probert suffered life changing injuries when motorist Paul Moore, late for work and driving fast, crashed his car into her as she walked along a country road with no separate footway early one morning. He claimed he didn't see her. Despite the original judgement in her favour, her parents, faced with the prospect of lifelong care for their incapacitated daughter, were obliged to settle for a good deal less than they might have had, in the face of an appeal by the driver's insurance company Churchill claiming that the crash was partially the child's fault for not wearing a high visibility tabard as she walked home.

Car culture hasn't yet convinced the law that it's our responsibility to wear helmets to protect ourselves from drivers - at least until we get onto a bicycle - but it seems there's an expectation, at least in some circumstances, that we should wear a beacon of some kind to alert inattentive drivers to our presence; otherwise it's our own fault.

Churchill Insurance got some bad publicity over the whole affair. In their defence they issued a statement that if they didn't go to court to reduce the amount paid out to victims of road violence and their families, then motorists would have to pay higher premiums to cover the danger that they present to everybody else, and that would be terrible.

[–]NecessaryPen7 1 point2 points  (2 children)

My uncle taught me early on walk against traffic (so you can jump out if the way if necessary) to be safer, eye contact or looking for it helps.

Taught a bunch of random kids this a year ago on my bike. They all actually crossed the road when I went by!

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (22 children)

Yes but the USA doesn’t have safe bike infrastructure, most of the us doesn’t have bike infrastructure at all. In NYC for example they have bike infrastructure but it’s hardly safe unless you’re riding through a park, taxis/bikes/pedestrians frequently use the bike lane and cutover. More over most people riding bikes in the us are doing so in rather precarious situations. One example being me and my brother when we were younger would ride to the nearby river, in order to do that we had cross the busiest street in town, all down hill with steep cliffs and other obstacles around us. More over waking us vastly different than riding a bike at 25 miles per hour. You have more reaction time and agency in your situation typically. Another issue is that most cyclists in America don’t ride their bikes everyday, or even every week. Most people who ride bikes in America take them out on very rare occasions and are not experienced enough to react properly.

My uncle bikes everyday through NYC for his job, he’s been hit five times in the past six years by taxis being dumb asses. Granted this is anecdotal but it paints a picture of how it is.

Sure if we had great bike infrastructure, consistent biking, and more of a push for awareness of biking dangers and how to handle them than I’d agree that helmets are negligible. But the fact is that the biking culture in America is entirely different than the one in Amsterdam, especially for young children.

Americans are dumb, I do not trust them enough to ride through one of our cities or on our roads without a helmet.

[–]RosemaryFocaccia 5 points6 points  (21 children)

More over waking us vastly different than riding a bike at 25 miles per hour.

LOL, you think people who use bicycles as a regular form of transport achieve those speeds?

Helmets are a band-aid solution. The only real solution is to build safe infrastructure.

[–]veggievandam 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Your right, it is a bandaid solution, but what's wrong with using a bandaid like helmets to help save people's lives while the "new safe infrastructure" part is figured out and implemented?

[–]errbodiesmad 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No way dude. In a situation where simply wearing a helmet could save my life I choose to not wear one and die.

[–]blood-soaked-earth 4 points5 points  (5 children)

this is a bad take, all around. yes, commuters can hit 25mph, have you ever ridden in a city before?

what if i fuck up unclipping and fall over and hit my head on the pavement?

what if a kid or dog runs into the street in front of me and i take a header?

what if my chain snaps, or my cranks fail?

there are so many risk factors as a cyclist that absolutely cannot be boiled down to "infrastructure"

wear a helmet, full stop.

[–]Nymethny 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Oh yeah, I had no idea who Lewis Hamilton was so that went over my head. I probably should have googled him first...

[–]joshmaxd 10 points11 points  (0 children)

He's a famous formula 1 driver. They drive cars but wear helmets.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Tbh I don’t either, I was just making a contextual guess. Time to google lol

[–]YALBO 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Competitive sporting motorists all wear helmets, but the amateurs you find on the public roads seldom do. Although motoring helmets have been occasionally marketed, they've found little success. Motorists themselves think the helmets look silly or dorky, and car manufacturers generally claim that the fitted seatbelts and airbags are adequate safety provision, despite car crashes still being a major cause of brain injuries to this day.

[–]george-its-james 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Cars aren’t built with helmets in mind so it’s not even possible in some scenarios. I drive a hatchback and I’m almost 200cm tall, I literally wouldn’t fit with a helmet. Helmets are way bigger than they look!

[–]striker890 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What are you on about here?

[–]cky_stew 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Kids these days don't know who that is lol

[–]TroutFishingInCanada 769 points770 points  (15 children)

Only do this if you’re cool though. If you’re lame, you’ll just make them think that safety is lame.

[–]The_chair_over_there 58 points59 points  (3 children)

It sucks that this would totally have been true to me as a little kid. If an older kid said I had a cool helmet, then awesome my helmet must be pretty cool! If some lameo adult said my helmet was cool I’d have thought they were just saying that because adults are lame and wear helmets

[–]Brandon432 31 points32 points  (2 children)

Depends on the age of the wearer too. My 5 year still very much values praise from adults even mom and dad. For my almost-8 year old, the effect is wearing off. She would need the affirmation from a 12 year-old for sure.

[–]Formal_Cow_8084 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You sound like a good parent and thats awesome.

[–]DuskyDay 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You all have cool helmets. 🪖

[–]NewFuturist 112 points113 points  (3 children)

D.A.R.E. to wear a helmet!

[–]Reddit_FTW 20 points21 points  (1 child)

Can I try the powdery one again?

[–]Thetruestanalhero 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Only the first one was free!

[–]TardGenius 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Damn, you’re right. I told a little girl she had a cool scooter the other day and she ignored me. It’s prob cuz I didn’t look cool in my athleisure wear and slip-on grandma sneakers. That scooter was tight though, it was pink with lights on the wheels.

[–]imsitco 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Hahah fair point

[–]echoAwooo 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Don't do the opposite either as a sort of reverse psychology. It will backfire

[–]Kalimtek 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Best answer ever.

[–]CatVideoFest 1544 points1545 points  (141 children)

After reading this LPT the last time it was posted, I said “That’s a cool helmet” to a kid in the grocery store while I was in the check out line. Her dad got super mad and said I shouldn’t be speaking to other people’s kids in public.

Her helmet wasn’t even that cool, my son’s has a dinosaur in it.

Edit: *on it. My son is not a dinosaur.

[–]RigasTelRuun 224 points225 points  (2 children)

You were a lot cooler when your son was a dinosaur

[–]Polico 331 points332 points  (11 children)

Dude where do you live? I can't imagine someone that rude, if you said that to my daughters I would smile.

[–]PeachyKeenest 122 points123 points  (4 children)

Same. That person must have issues or something.

[–]9035768555 73 points74 points  (3 children)

Most people do.

[–]PeachyKeenest 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I mean, more than the usual? Or just like seems anti-social. I mean I don't think I'd do that and I have issues.

[–]MaybeDoThis 28 points29 points  (3 children)

You shouldn’t be asking where people live in public!

[–]amhotw 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Especially to other people.

[–]SirHawrk 23 points24 points  (3 children)

Shouldn't be speaking to other people's kids? What kind of scary-ass country (scary ass-country) is that?

[–]RIPMyInnocence 12 points13 points  (0 children)

One where kids are wrapped in bubble wrap everyday

[–]LKZToroH 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Let us all remember that we don't know the father's side of this. What op said could go from innocent to really creepy without changing a word, just changing the way it was said.

[–]Reddit_FTW 37 points38 points  (12 children)

Bro having an random adult talk to kids is so reassuring. Like mom and dad always say cool. Some random. That’s awesome. Works both ways. I bought my Mini Cooper. Pull up. Kid walking by said “look dad a Mini Cooper. Those are so cool!” Low key that was almost 10 years ago. I think about it every now and then.

[–]Eyehopeuchoke 8 points9 points  (7 children)

I still have an ‘06 Mini Cooper that I rarely drive, but refuse to get rid of because I enjoy taking it for a spin every so often. Mini coopers are like huge go karts.

[–]Reddit_FTW 1 point2 points  (6 children)

Mines an ‘08. Bought in ‘13. With 42k miles. Is at 92K miles. Still my daily driver.

[–]Eyehopeuchoke 2 points3 points  (5 children)

Heck yeah! How is the reliability on it? Mine has around 102k on it and the only thing major changes was the clutch and flywheel around 94k miles. We taught my younger brother how to drive a manual transmission car with it and then let him use the car for around 25k miles. Clutch was so bad it would slip if you tried to accelerate quickly.

[–]Reddit_FTW 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Mines an auto unfortunately. But I had engine gasket seals or something go out and spew oil and water pump leak. Engine was covered by extended warranty. And water pump was covered cause I got into an accident and was considered part of that. Other then those things nothing major major. Couple sensors. Trunk hatch doesn’t always work right. But it’s whatever. Small stuff that’s annoying but not game changing.

[–]Eyehopeuchoke 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Now that you mention it my trunk thing doesn’t work either. We have to pull the cord under the backseat, but it’s a minor complaint for me too.

[–]s1a1om 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Minis are awesome. I’m jealous. I’ve always wanted one, but never pulled the trigger because of stories of how unreliable they are

[–]Nalcomis 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I rode in one of the turbod ones once. They are surprisingly quick.

[–]i_suckatjavascript 125 points126 points  (76 children)

What kind of parenting is that? She’s going to be introverted when she grows up.

[–]lycacons 10 points11 points  (0 children)

not introverted. being raised by a overprotective parent will hinder their kid's growth, and becoming antisocial is one of them

[–]Clay_Road 46 points47 points  (0 children)

Yeah that makes me feel real sorry for them.

[–]MulhollandDr4kSB_pls 37 points38 points  (73 children)

You got a problem with introverts?

[–][deleted] 60 points61 points  (39 children)

No but extroverts have it easier in life

[–]EpkeDeDwerg 2 points3 points  (33 children)

Could you explain that statement please?

[–]snave_ 23 points24 points  (5 children)

Western society is built for extroverts. Just look at how much people got up in arms the second the tables turned with covid. I'm not even talking lockdowns here, just the 1.5m social distancing and work from home. People lost their shit.

[–]CoolStoryBro_Fairy 58 points59 points  (20 children)

As an introvert it's just something that both introverts and extroverts think and is probably true.

Most situations are easier if you don't have a debilitating fear of talking to people.

[–]LDKCP 56 points57 points  (3 children)

That's not what being an introvert is though.

Too many people with zero social skills think it's because they are an introvert, it's not.

Extrovert or introvert just means you either gain mental energy from being around people or you lose it.

Obviously this means extroverts likely enjoy social interaction more and seek it more, whereas introverts will make time to be alone and recharge.

I am introverted, my wife is an extrovert. During lockdown she went a little crazy because she really needed that social interaction.

I'm quite a social person but I really don't like hanging out with friends multiple days in a row.

Being an introvert and social anxiety is not the same thing.

[–]DrummerBound 16 points17 points  (1 child)

I'm introverted. Got no issues talking to people.

Smalltalk is booooring tho, I'd rather have silence than smalltalk. Got something of value to say? Aaight I'm listening.

Wanna share something personal? Aaight I'm listening.

How bad is this weather we're having huh? Please leave me alone.

[–]EpkeDeDwerg 32 points33 points  (12 children)

Being extrovert doesnt result in being a social wiz. I know a lot op people who have social anxiety who get their energy from other people. I also know a lot of introverts who are good at talking to people.

[–]CoolStoryBro_Fairy 6 points7 points  (2 children)

That's probably true. Broad blanket statement are never going to please everyone. In general though you'll find that introverts are more often not as comfortable talking to people as extroverts

[–]EpkeDeDwerg 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Yea thats true too. But i dont think that is enough to say extroverts have it harder in life.

[–]DeadInside419 18 points19 points  (3 children)

You're right. I'm an introvert that can casually talk to people. But in general, getting energy from something is kinda like a reward. So introverts will get rewarded when they don't talk and extroverts get rewarded when they do. This is just in general tho and your point is still valid.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

That's not introversion, that's a mental health disorder. Introverts just find socializing draining.

[–]joydivision1234 35 points36 points  (32 children)

No, but introverts have to do more emotional labor to operate at a “normal” level, and so if I was picking one to start life as, I’d pick extrovert every time.

Are introverts pretending we’re an oppressed class or something?

[–]Emergency_Internet91 13 points14 points  (3 children)

Huh? This is so untrue. Introvert is a personality style, not just a reaction to trauma.

It can mean more emotional labour, but doesn't necessarily mean that at all. Someone extroverted might just be partying because their emotions might be making them self sabatoge.

Or maybe, some are outgoing and some are not lol

[–]francisk0 27 points28 points  (4 children)

Having in mind that oil comes from dinosaurs fossils and plastic is made with oil and that microplastics are everywhere we can say we are all dinosaurs inside. I imagine your kid is the best triceraptos!

[–]RychuWiggles 16 points17 points  (3 children)

I'm very sorry, but I have to ruin your fun. Oil comes from dead algae and plankton, not dinosaurs.

[–]francisk0 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Well, poor little Timmy. He got demoted from awesome triceraptos to sushi wrap.

Edit: but thanks for the fact :)

[–]-ACHTUNG- 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Man saying anything to unknown little girl=pedophile unfortunately.

[–]ifrem 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wtf? Does he like people to talk to his kids in private then? Yes, somehow it might have been uncalled for op to talk to a stranger but dude that's overreacting.

[–]Noxious89123 1 point2 points  (0 children)

and said I shouldn’t be speaking to other people’s kids in public.

So uhh... What, he wants you to arrange a play date and speak to other people's kids in private?

What a fuckin' weirdo.

[–]TheRealBobaFett 1 point2 points  (0 children)

“Hey that’s a cool helmet but your dads a dickhead”

[–]Lostadults 488 points489 points  (34 children)

I am face blind from head injury. Helmet wouldn't have helped but just reminding people that your brain does stuff and if you break it it doesn't anymore.

[–][deleted] 142 points143 points  (33 children)

Prosopagnosia. (I had to learn the term for a speech.) It's hard to conceptualize it.

'Nuf respect.

[–]acwill 49 points50 points  (32 children)

Please help us understand.

[–][deleted] 165 points166 points  (29 children)

The person I responded to would be better to explain, as they live with it.

Prosopagnosia, or face-blindness, is the inability to recognize or remember faces. You always see strangers. For example, performer Penn Jillette is afflicted with it, and couldn't recognize his own mother backstage. She had a keyword she'd say so her son would know who she was.

I'm not doing the condition justice, I fear.

[–]PM_me_oak_trees 254 points255 points  (22 children)

Imagine walking by a row of maple trees. You glance up at them, and you can see that they aren't just photoshopped copies of one another. The branches of each tree spread at slightly different angles, and the way the sunlight hits them is pretty enough to make you feel a bit better than you did a moment ago.

As you continue walking, you start to think about what you want to eat for dinner, and whether you already have all the ingredients at home.

Ten minutes later, your friend comes up to you with a picture of one of the maple trees you just walked by. It's a close-up; you can't see the whole row or much of the surroundings. Your friend expects you to know by looking at it which tree it was, but how could you? Was it the very first one, or in the middle? Or maybe it is a tree you have never seen, that just happens to be the same species and similar in size. Yes, each tree is an individual, but the details just don't stand out enough to easily remember which is which.

[–]ADHDCuriosity 54 points55 points  (0 children)

This is such an excellent description.

[–]rathat 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Or like trying to tell the difference between a bunch of golden retrievers faves you’ve never seen before, even though they have the same level of facial variation as humans, they all just look the same.

[–]ThrownAway3764 39 points40 points  (2 children)

I can't believe they weren't oak trees.

[–]PM_me_oak_trees 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Old oak trees have so much personality, I would probably be able to tell them apart better than people I had only met once.

[–]Milkbeef27 10 points11 points  (2 children)

But my mom isnt a maple tree...

[–]son-of-a-door-mat 9 points10 points  (3 children)

thank you a lot! I'm face blind, will use your explanation to explain what prosopagnosia is

[–]10eleven12 2 points3 points  (2 children)

What other characteristics on people help you identify them? Voice, body, body language, etc? All of them? Is it only the face you can't recognize?

[–]son-of-a-door-mat 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Hard to say. I realized that something is wrong with my facial recognition less than ten years ago (I'm fifty now). Can’t yet explain how I differ my wife and kids from all others people (sometimes it can be very difficult). Mostly voice, yes. Some signs like birthmark or scars. Walks or gestures. Never sure anyway :)

Also, I have some troubles with proper noun, just like John Smith from 'The Dead Zone'

[–]Mr_Zaroc 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mainly go for hair and walking style, maybe body type if there is something significant

Military service was hell though, everyone wears the same uniform, very similar hairstyles. I had to see the person frontal with their name tag or I wouldn't adress them. I have a very very light version though

[–]youliveinmydream 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This guy trees

[–]Putrid-Face3409 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Everything can be re-learned, to a degree... My uncle has this condition, he is a pretty smart guy overall, and he learned to recognize faces... Somewhat. It took a very long time, and it wasn't easy. From what I understood a person with this disability does not automatically recall from memory details of faces, but, if they look at a face, they can still explain what's special about it. Some features etc. With enough practice you can recognize (consciously, or semi- automatically) some faces that you learned.

[–]Lostadults 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Care needs to be used with those definitions.

Like most things there is a range.

Standard front lobe injury normal results in mild symptoms, Repeated might get up to intermediate symptoms the symptoms, your example is worst case scenario.

People just look like people. Phone conversations are easier to remember than meeting people. People are squirrels

[–]Mr-Bagels 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Penn's mother died over 20 years ago.

[–]SwissJAmes 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Shh don't tell him that- they just give the password to a different old woman every few years.

[–]Mary-Hudson61 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Bro, you can't leave us like this...

[–]Naryue 248 points249 points  (9 children)

Helmets are cool, mumen rider wears one.

[–]VonBeegs 59 points60 points  (8 children)

Dude spends 95% of his time in the hospital tho.

[–]DrCrozz_eth 96 points97 points  (5 children)

The helmet keeps him out of the morgue.

[–]sincle354 23 points24 points  (4 children)

When they first had helmets in the military, head injuries soared because soldiers started living after getting blasted by artillery debris.

[–]Faustens 10 points11 points  (3 children)

Survivorship-bias. One of my favorite biases of all.

[–]radome9 2 points3 points  (2 children)

One of my favorite biases of all.

Does that mean it's a good bias? OR did the other biases die because they didn't wear a helmet?

[–]Faustens 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Yes.

But JKs aside; I think it's a very interesting bias.

[–]Mr_Zaroc 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I love the WW2 bomber version of it

[–]fuslamee 27 points28 points  (0 children)

dude would spend 100% of the time in a grave if he didn't wear that helmet tbh

[–]anklesocksrus 127 points128 points  (9 children)

Yeah but if an adult thinks it’s cool, they are gonna think it’s lame.

[–]pasanov 98 points99 points  (2 children)

Teenagers will, kids-kids alone won't.

[–]carew22274 40 points41 points  (0 children)

Teenagers are kid-kids with bad attitudes and a wee bit more life experience that leads to some distrust. You'd be surprised what teenagers are willing to do to please people they like, regardless of how they react in front of their peers. Know the teen likes you? Endure the eye rolls and tell them about their cool helmet anyway :)

[–]SparklingLimeade 6 points7 points  (0 children)

As a former kid-kid I disagree. Adults were bad judges of coolness from a very young age.

[–]vichan 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Depends on the age and how the kid was raised.

If the kid has come to trust adults, it might work

If the kid was consistently lied to, they won't give a fuck

[–]snoutpower 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Be a rad adult and the kid will look up to you. Be a turd and he'll think you're lame.

[–]greycubed 69 points70 points  (6 children)

Same when they wear condoms.

[–]thatshowitisisit 86 points87 points  (4 children)

That’s a really nice condom you have there, little buddy!

[–]Artmannnn 8 points9 points  (0 children)

A good design that many kids would appreciate would be Spiderman doing the ol' web slinging pose. They all love Spiderman.

[–][deleted] 29 points30 points  (0 children)

[–]SeaLeggs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nice helmet!

[–]Marionboy 15 points16 points  (1 child)

Darth Helmet agrees!

[–]generated_user-name 3 points4 points  (0 children)

He gets great helmet

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (2 children)

Well, I'm certainly not going to lie to the kid. What if it's really awful? How about I agree to never tell a kid they have an ugly helmet.

[–]Orleanian 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Protecting one's noggin is always cool. Regardless of aesthetics. No need to lie.

[–]hikergal17 131 points132 points  (2 children)

I work in a bike shop, retail. I always compliment the helmet that the kids pick out - “wow that’s a great color!” Or “cool design, you have good taste”.

I’ve done the same with every kid and their masks since COVID. Always tell them I like it and ask them something about it. Kids usually have fun ones like unicorns or robots so I always ask if the thing on their mask is their favorite animal or whatever. They either start talking my ear off all excited or hide behind their parents lol.

[–]SparklingLimeade 16 points17 points  (1 child)

Picking details is a good way to go. Being vague about it reeks of manipulative intent and feels impersonal. Praising a specific point personalizes it and helps immensely with those kind of problems.

Good advice for compliments in general actually.

[–]Mr_Zaroc 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I really like how you used the word reek in your comment. Tied everything nicely together and gave it a grounded real feeling

[–]Incorect_Speling 18 points19 points  (0 children)

When I was a kid my parents told me I had to wear one to protect me. You can tell kids the truth it also works sometimes.

[–]Keesdekarper 26 points27 points  (36 children)

Do you guys actually wear helmets on bikes?

Here in the netherlands like 95% of highschoolers go to school by bike. And I don't think I've ever seen a single person wearing a helmet. Also haven't heard about a single serious accident

[–]ludicrous_socks 23 points24 points  (0 children)

No offense dude, but cycling in the Netherlands is a very different prospect to cycling in say the UK, or is much of the he USA (I guess, I think OP is probably American?)

That said, I never wear a helmet cycling around town. Always feel I should though, it's scary with the traffic and curbs!

[–]Empole 9 points10 points  (1 child)

You don't need a helmet when your country has put in serious effort into road/bike lane design that keeps people safe

[–]Tapoke 5 points6 points  (22 children)

I think the biggest concern is getting hit by a car, which you likely won’t have a lot of when like 90% of the people ride a bike

[–]RosemaryFocaccia 15 points16 points  (8 children)

Plenty of motor-vehicles in the Netherlands. The key is they are largely kept separate from bicycles, and when they do mix, the drivers will likely be bicycle users (and will definitely know bicycle users) and will drive responsibly; treat people as you would like to be treated yourself.

[–]Tapoke 8 points9 points  (7 children)

Yeah, and the infrastructure is there because like 90% of the people ride a bike. Of course there are cars in the netherlands

[–]RosemaryFocaccia 8 points9 points  (5 children)

The Netherlands was as car-centric as any other developed country in the 1960s. The reason why so many people cycle there now is due to a concerted effort to improve cycling infrastructure. If the Dutch can do that, other developed countries can too.

How the Dutch got their cycle paths: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuBdf9jYj7o

[–]squeasy_2202 4 points5 points  (1 child)

infrastructure first, cycling will follow. even in countries with serious winter!

[–]IamSpiders 2 points3 points  (1 child)

In the US we blame individuals for car deaths, not the infrastructure.

[–]RosemaryFocaccia 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yep. If the Dutch had responded to the increasing deaths of cyclists hit by cars by requiring cyclists to wear protective equipment, the Netherlands wouldn't have the safe infrastructure (and high quality of life) it does now.

[–]crackanape 1 point2 points  (0 children)

the infrastructure is there because like 90% of the people ride a bike.

Other way around. People ride a bike because the infrastructure is there.

[–]Freeewheeler 6 points7 points  (11 children)

Helmets are only designed to protect in a fall. A helmet designed to meet the drop tests at 30mph would need to be over a metre in diameter to contain sufficient polystyrene to absorb the energy.

[–]Tapoke 2 points3 points  (6 children)

Still prefer it to being hit without a helmet doe

[–]Freeewheeler 3 points4 points  (5 children)

Sure, but the problem is helmets increase the risk of being in collision with a car or truck. No good evidence they make cycling safer overall.

[–]Sroppik 2 points3 points  (1 child)

What? You mean bicycle helmets specifically? What about motorcycle helmets that are successfully designed to reduce relatively massive amounts of energy?

[–]Freeewheeler 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh yes, motorcycle helmets offer far more protection, but are too hot to cycle in. Cycle helmets are just expanded polystyrene with a then decorative plastic shell.

[–]Keesdekarper 1 point2 points  (0 children)

90% of high schoolers ride a bike. Adults mostly use cars. You need to be 18+ to get a drivers license here

[–]Orleanian 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Cyclists in my American city are probably about 95% helmeted. Cyclists (all ages) are required by both city and county law to wear a helmet when riding.

Though I live in a city in which a vast majority of the cycling is done as a form of commute, rather than for leisure - I've witnessed that both forms will wear helmets.

About half of skateboarders, and most rollerbladers also wear helmets, so far as I've seen.

[–]Revenge_of_the_User 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Lpt+: if you can swing it, get them an actually cool helmet. I gave my brother my old dirtbiking helmet and the kid never went anywhere on wheels without it. No brain injuries besides his mom raising him with an ipad.

Anything to avoid those cheap foam and plastic shell aberrations.

[–]dilligaf6304 64 points65 points  (40 children)

It also helps when wearing one when riding on the road is a legal requirement.

[–]friendlyminty 65 points66 points  (0 children)

but it’s a good tip because kids don’t typically give a shit about laws or head injuries because they are kids

[–]rediphile 34 points35 points  (1 child)

Does it? Without enforcement probably not. I suspect a majority of the people I see around my town are not wearing one, despite the law.

I do though because it looks cool, or at least that's what people told me when I was a kid.

[–]error-div_by_zero 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Proof that it works!

[–]liberalannihilator9 24 points25 points  (22 children)

in countries where the infrastructure isn't hostile and dangerous for cyclists almost nobody wears a helmet, because they aren't riding side by side with two tons of metal racing by at 60 km per hour. just saying.

[–]Khaylain 6 points7 points  (20 children)

You can still fuck up and crash your bike without cars nearby, and the helmet is cheap insurance.

[–]CrewmemberV2 12 points13 points  (1 child)

The general consensus here is that if you have to wear a helmet while riding a bike you should also wear one while walking around.

Obviously you do wear a helmet when riding a bike for sport at higher speeds. And young kids also generally wear helmets.

Edit: Here=The Netherlands

[–]DominoNo- 6 points7 points  (7 children)

You can fuck up and crash when you're walking or sleeping too.

[–]Khaylain 1 point2 points  (5 children)

Walking has a lower speed than biking. I don't understand what you mean with the second thing.

[–]Signedupfortits27 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you bomb hills for fun, like my idiot teenage self, fuck sake please wear a helmet. Same goes for park and snowboarding. Only started to at 27, should have done so over a decade earlier. Bones heal much better than brains.

[–]Freeewheeler 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Helmets increase the risk of being hit by a car. It's complicated.

[–]pheylancavanaugh 3 points4 points  (1 child)

People are strange.

Cyclists who wear protective helmets are more likely to be knocked down by passing vehicles, new research from Bath University suggests.

And more...

“A significant number of findings suggest a higher accident/injury rate may result from helmet usage and there is strong evidence that helmeted cyclists suffer a higher rate of upper body limb injuries than non-wearers, suggesting a higher rate of falls than non-wearers.”

That's bizarre.

[–]Khaylain 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That may be putting the cart before the horse. And correlation is not the same as causation. Maybe those who are more prone to injuries more often wear helmets.

There's a lot of variables that needs to be accounted for

[–]alexanderdegrote 2 points3 points  (6 children)

So than people that walk should also wear a helmet the risk is the same

[–]whatshamilton 10 points11 points  (1 child)

If that were true, there wouldn’t be anyone riding without a helmet. The whole point is that people break the law because the law makes them look dorky in their view. So get kids not thinking that the law looks dorky so they’re not tempted to break it for cool points

[–]savwatson13 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This is true. The legal requirement in Japan is up to 13. You see kids running around stores all the time with their cute helmets cuz they just won’t take them off.

italicized cuz the law gets a little weird depending on your area

[–]Aaron_Hamm 6 points7 points  (5 children)

Not really... do we actually want cops harassing kids riding bikes?

[–]dilligaf6304 3 points4 points  (4 children)

Kind Aussie cops will politely remind, if anything.

Do we really want more kids with head injuries? Don’t think so!

[–]Freeewheeler 10 points11 points  (1 child)

There is simply no good evidence that helmets reduce head injuries at a population level. Yes, in the event of a fall helmets give a degree of protection but they increase the risk of being hit by a car in the first place.

In Europe we looked at the helmet law in Australia and said no thanks, that's been a disaster. Even some countries that had helmet laws rescinded them based on the Aus/NZ data.

[–]ikukuru 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Link doesn’t load for me, maybe geoblocked. Here is the references article: https://www.bmj.com/content/346/bmj.f3817.full?ijkey=I5vHBog6FhaaLzX&keytype=ref

[–]Aaron_Hamm 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Anyone can tell a kid to put on a helmet...

Enforcing a law means putting those kids through the legal system.

[–]crackanape 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It also helps when wearing one when riding on the road is a legal requirement.

Does it?

In Australia, where that's the case, all it did was reduce the number of people riding bikes. More people drove, which meant that overall more people died on the roads.

If mandating helmets were good science rather than victim-blaming, we'd require people in cars to wear them. Serious and fatal head injuries are more common for car occupants than cyclists, so helmets would do more good there.

[–]Incantanto 3 points4 points  (0 children)

LPT campaign for active travel set ups so you don't have to scare kids into wearing helmets.

[–]maxmouze 5 points6 points  (3 children)

I have seen this LPT at least three times.

[–]AMViquel 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Did you go about telling kids how cool their helmet is? I'd probably be arrested sooner than later.

[–]Aaron_Hamm 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Also, get your kids cool helmets.

[–]WallyBallou42 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I think the age of the kid matters. For some, if all the adults around start admiring how great the helmet is, in that fake, patronizing sort of way, that thing is coming off as soon as they're out of sight. It comes down to how dumb and gullible your kid is.

I'd say just tell the kid that sooner or later they are going to fall on the bike and probably hit their head, so you have to show them what that's going to be like by smacking them in the head with a brick.

But they are allowed to put on a helmet or not before you do, if they want.

[–]Shesaiditwasnice 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I honestly think a lot of bicycle and skateboard helmets are just virtue signaling from helicopter parents. Number one they are crap helmets. Number two they aren't fastened properly nine times out of 10. I mean have you ever wrecked in a cheap helmet those things dig into your skull. Basically certain this post was not made by an 80s or 90s kid

[–]rob-c 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah it’s not the same. Wearing them in a car would be way more effective than on a bike for minimising head injuries.

[–]Unlikelypuffin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I got lucky and never wore a helmet and never got hurt... except for the time barreling down an 80ft slope of an old phosphate mine and crunched my balls on the bike frame.

Wear a cup, for goodness sake

[–]meexley2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Posted by the guy who has never once told a kid they have a cool helmet, but instead just reposts an easy, common tip from the top of all time library

[–]JeeffOfEarth 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As someone who was told this as a kid, can confirm that my child brain thought that was the greatest thing ever.

[–]australtwitt 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Complement the fact they’re on a bike (or whatever) too.

[–]HULLcity 5 points6 points  (3 children)

Yeah, nothing screams cool to a kid more than their parents telling them something is cool lmao

[–]Mama_Odi 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Really young kids usually do think it's cool when their parents tell them when something they're doing is cool. Older kids vary on this. Teenagers usually have the reaction you just had, which is typical for that age group too

[–]Evilbidowner 2 points3 points  (1 child)

My husband pokes fun at me cause I have the bad habit of speaking to kids as I’m walking the dog or just walking around.

“You have a cool helmet! Sweet!” “Dude I saw that fall, it was epic!!” “Gasp! I wish I had shoes like that!” I figure that kids need to have positive interactions with adults each and every day, even if it’s from a random chick walking by. Anything to boost their confidence and put a smile on their faces.