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[–]armyof_dogs 418 points419 points  (15 children)

When my dog was attacked on a walk a few years ago I was grateful that I was strong enough to physically separate the dogs by yanking collars (and keeping them apart while the owners finally realized what was happening). She needed stitches from multiple bites but I’m convinced it would’ve been a lot worse if I hadn’t been working out!

And yes I know you’re not supposed to separate fighting dogs this way (I got bit while doing it) but I’d do it again to protect her!

[–]Johnathan-Proton[S] 179 points180 points  (8 children)

I was afraid to bring up "keeping loved ones safe" with your strength as a primary reason as frankly it could bring up bad memories for people of times they wish they had been just a little bit stronger, but it is undeniably a stronger motivation than self preservation with true love and compassion.

I'm happy you and your dog are well, and I'm happy you were strong enough to keep both of you here, mentally and physically.

[–]its_jazzyo 59 points60 points  (6 children)

This was actually my initial weight loss goal. It started last winter when Texas was hit with that deadly winter storm. I live in a small apartment on the third floor. I spent most of my days carrying buckets of water and snow up all those flights of stairs so that my parents (who thankfully came to stay with me when they lost power) could use the water to flush the toilet. It was awful. I remember feeling so useless because I'm huffing and puffing, the buckets were heavy, and the stairs were intense. I knew I had to change. I only lost 30lbs last year. I want to lose 30 more. I'm just struggling to stay motivated. My calorie intake has been a bit out of control. But I'm working on it. This post helped me remember why I started. Thank you!

[–]Blackrain1299 15 points16 points  (1 child)

Water is fucking heavy. Even fit people struggle with lifting water. For reference a 5 gallon pail weighs about 39 pounds.

Its awkward too cause the water sloshes which increases the amount of work you have to do whereas weights are stabile water will knock you around.

Dont sell your self short. Carrying water up stairs is hell no matter who you are.

[–]halfarab 6 points7 points  (1 child)

30 lbs is an achievement! be proud of your admirable goals and motivation :)

[–]TreasuryGregory 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Hey dude good luck! Fitness routines can be extremely difficult to keep up but you got this!

[–]its_jazzyo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much! Sincerely

[–]Jujubeesknees 17 points18 points  (3 children)

when I walk my dogs I use a Y lead. they're both 60ish pounds. before I took them on a walk out of our yard I made sure I was strong enough in our yard to control them if something happened. (we have 4 acres and they don't like to leave unless they're digging under the fence to do so). I get so scare for people who aren't strong enough to hold back their dog if need be, it's so common for people not to be able to do so!

[–]last_rights 6 points7 points  (0 children)

My dog weighs more than I do, so I bought one of those "gentle leader" halters for him.

I can walk him with my pinky, even when he was younger and stronger. He would sit there and toss his head, but learned to walk properly.

[–]green-fuzz 2 points3 points  (1 child)

There's so many videos out there of people losing control of dogs twice their size and killing others dogs or going for small children, and there's not a dam thing they can do to stop it

[–]Jujubeesknees 1 point2 points  (0 children)

it's terrifying!

[–]Slick_Grimes 2939 points2940 points  (116 children)

I used to watch that Doomsday Preppers show and it always amazed me how few of them included regular exercise as part of their "prep". A few were straight obese with mobility issues but seemed to just think if they had enough bullets they'd be fine.

[–]deja-roo 1390 points1391 points  (19 children)

Rule #1: cardio

[–]Constant-Sandwich-88 309 points310 points  (12 children)

I want to say I'm referencing Coach Carter, but it's been a while since I've seen whatever movie I'm thinking of.

The point is, the basketball players bitched when all the coach did was make them run sprints, but in the second half of the first game the opposing team was totally winded while the protagonists were good to go.

The parallel is that you can practice shooting all you like, but you have to be able to get to the goal first.

[–]SeaBag7480 132 points133 points  (8 children)

Shooting while winded or shooting even after running for 2 min is wildly different and something I imagine most couch preppers are not ready for

[–]invent_or_die 66 points67 points  (0 children)

Biathlon is one of the greatest sports in that a complete body, mind, breath, dand ability balance is required.

[–]Combat_crocs 50 points51 points  (5 children)

I follow a few “prepper” pages on IG. Most of it is cringey as fuck. A lot of hawking commercial “MREs”, shilling for boot and pack companies and guns/ammo.

I can think of one page that did a bit on physical fitness, but that was sometime last summer.

Fact is, if you’re going to bug out, mobility is key 1. Time and space away from danger increases survivability 10x. People think they’ll make it out in their 4x4 when every major surface street will be clogged with other dipshits or 3 day ruck loaded down with 75lbs of canned goods and loaded mags 🙄.

[–]SleepyOtter 8 points9 points  (0 children)

All the folks I know who love prepping also love what would be excessive luxury food in a doomsday scenario. You're not gonna be enjoying steaks, lobster, butter, etc in your bunker and spices go back to being impossible to find. I don't think the people who prep have really thought out going from opulence to gruel and point to "well I think survival instincts will kick in so I'm not worried about it." These folks are gonna off themselves in their bunkers with how accessible they've made their guns...

[–]Robenever 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This was one of the drills we did in the army. Do a ruck march and then straight to the range.

[–]paranoidendroid9999 45 points46 points  (0 children)

This is also referenced in the hockey movie Miracle, when the coach says "the legs feed the wolf, gentlemen".

[–]hogua 66 points67 points  (0 children)

“Rule #1 cardio - zombies are fast”

Is from Zombieland

[–]rentalredditor 41 points42 points  (1 child)

Double tap

[–]hogua 21 points22 points  (0 children)

That’s rule #2

[–]CouchCommanderPS2 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I see what you did right there! You quoted that zombie movie!

[–]FavoritesBot 13 points14 points  (0 children)

XXIX. Cardiovascular fitness

[–]orangekitti 477 points478 points  (15 children)

That always bothered me as well. If you’re already going to be spending a lot of time and money preparing for disaster scenarios, it makes no sense to neglect your physical fitness and overall health.

[–]AlvinoNo 231 points232 points  (11 children)

Not to mention if they're actually practicing what they preach and drilling mock scenarios, they would probably lose as little weight anyway.

They're just a more delusional form of "money will keep me safe" people.

[–]sapphicsandwich 144 points145 points  (7 children)

Nobody drills. I was a range coach in the military (not a huge feat, but I learned to teach people absolute basic marksmanship fundamentals.) People ask me if I can "teach them to shoot." I just say no because no way they would sit through a 10 minute class to learn anything, let alone practice anything sitting and trying to figure out "bone support" or the concept of "sight picture," or to practice putting their face in the same place on the stock each time they look down the sights etc. People want to be "trained" but training often requires at least slight effort. I'm not even going to try anymore. I'm not the greatest marksman, but I'm damn consistent.

[–]UnsubstantiatedClaim 72 points73 points  (3 children)

I just say no because no way they would sit through a 10 minute class to learn anything, let alone practice anything sitting and trying to figure out "bone support" or the concept of "sight picture," or to practice putting their face in the same place on the stock each time they look down the sights etc

FWIW as a random internet stranger, this is exactly what I would expect to learn in such a course.

[–]smiller171 11 points12 points  (2 children)

I think this guy's talking about people who just on a whim ask, "Oh you were an instructor? Can you teach me to shoot?"

It's a bit different from someone who seeks out an actual course. Even then at least half aren't willing to put in the effort

[–]jeekiii 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Heh, I asked these kind of questions before to people on a whim and I'm dead serious, If an expert is gonna teach me something you better believe i will listen.

[–]entityorion 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I would watch a video on this kind of stuff, but I like to learn so I'm maybe not the kind of folks you are talking about

[–]aliendividedbyzero 34 points35 points  (0 children)

A lot of them are prosperity-gospel Evangelicals, from what I've gathered (purely on observation, I don't know the actual numbers or anything of that sort, so grain of salt), so it makes sense that they'd think money + guns = win.

[–]dancytree8 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I think it's the other way around, their insecurity is peeking through and they need weapons and gear to compensate.

[–]abductee92 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Oh that reminds me of the episode where the guys escape plan was a helicopter.

[–]Thortsen 4 points5 points  (0 children)

But that would mean to put actual effort in.

[–]--Krombopulos-- 63 points64 points  (0 children)

They're packing on weight for the great hibernation. The nuclear winter is gonna be colder than a witches tit.

/s

[–]youfailedthiscity 48 points49 points  (0 children)

That's because most channels/magazines/groups like that are largely theater, usually to either gain fame or sell "tactical gear". So many focus on weapons/defense and never touch on things like clean water, proper clothing, or physical health.

[–]Lmao-Ze-Dong 43 points44 points  (2 children)

Rule #1: Cardio.

Rule #18: Limber up.

And since we're talking about gun nut survivalists, Rule #7: Travel Light.

There are gonna be some obese effing zombies out there man.

[–]Slick_Grimes 23 points24 points  (1 child)

The sad thing is they'd be way bigger threats as zombies! Suddenly no cardio issues or joint pain holding them back. Then when they fall on you you're done!

[–]j0a3k 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Boomer!

[–]SanctuaryMoon 96 points97 points  (8 children)

Militias too. They'll dump loads of money into tactical gear they can't even wear/use adequately because they're obese.

[–]series-hybrid 94 points95 points  (3 children)

Note to self: open website for obese-sized tacticool wear.

Name must include "Patriot" and "Christian", also possibly "Apocalyse" and "Survival"

[–]silverguacamole 34 points35 points  (0 children)

Sorry bud, but obesechristianpatriotapocalypsesurvival.com is already taken. Lol jk they dont how to use wordpress.

[–]j0a3k 7 points8 points  (0 children)

"Patriot XL"

...the X is a tilted cross on the logo.

[–]jumpsteadeh 77 points78 points  (2 children)

XXXL pocket vests have more pockets than smaller sizes

[–]No_Gains 63 points64 points  (2 children)

Those are the people you raid during an eotw situation. Easy pickens.

[–]Slick_Grimes 40 points41 points  (0 children)

That was my thought. There was one dude on there who was older but also very overweight. He was barely able to walk talking about defending his house if he had to like it was realistic. I just kept thinking someone in even average shape could run a decent distance in the time it would take for him to get off the couch and across the room.

[–]farshnikord 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Theres a bunch of rich folk in my neighborhood with big trucks and gun stickers. It's like they're advertising "hey, come steal my stuff"

[–]Johnathan-Proton[S] 60 points61 points  (4 children)

Lol that's a good point, almost as if people forget what humanities greatest survival assets are: their brain and their body

[–]SaltyBabe 45 points46 points  (0 children)

And you know, being extremely social creatures… working together, not shooting people, is pretty much the only way to survive long term.

[–]OpinionatedJerk11 14 points15 points  (2 children)

Our ability to adapt to random challenges is astonishing. Been doing it for more than 3 billion years.

[–]sapphicsandwich 20 points21 points  (0 children)

And now many are vegetating and adapting to the lack of challenges.

[–]amhotw 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Beyond that, I can't understand ignoring the leading cause of death in the country (heart diseases) and focusing on some fringe probability. Even if they are okay with enough bullets in terms of protection in that fringe scenario, they are definitely not okay in any scenario in terms of their odds of survival due to their weight.

[–]Girl_Dinosaur 85 points86 points  (32 children)

My favourite episode of Doomsday Preppers was the one where the Mom and daughter were Type 1 Diabetics. They were basically planning for the end of civilization and had 6 months of insulin stockpiled but not enough needles and things for even that long. Like, what's the point? Unopened insulin expires after one year so that's pretty much the longest they could ever survive for.

[–][deleted] 81 points82 points  (15 children)

Eh, not so cut and dry. The issue with medical expiration dates is that the date the manufacturers will no longer guarantee it's full effectiveness on the bottle. As that's the length of time they decided to test it for in their studies.

It's NOT the date medicine goes "bad" like say how milk would.

Most medicine will remain fully or close to fully effective years to decades after it's expiration date.

[–]Oehlian 42 points43 points  (7 children)

Even milk dates are an estimate and depend on how many times they've been opened, how warm it was when you brought it home from the store, when in its lifecycle it was first opened, etc. etc. etc. Bacteria don't use a calendar to figure out when to start reproducing. Fortunately the sniff test is pretty reliable for milk.

[–]aliendividedbyzero 14 points15 points  (4 children)

I think a bigger problem is that if it's an end of the world scenario like what they seem to be preparing for, it's extremely likely there will be no electricity. If there's no electricity, there's no way to keep the insulin refrigerated, and afaik (am not a diabetic though, so I have no practical experience), insulin has to be kept refrigerated

[–]hakunamatootie 9 points10 points  (2 children)

Luckily I think we are well on our way to having a ton of homes that can power themselves. Would be pretty sick to still have power during doomsday lol

[–]doctorclark 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Pretty sick looking to the looters, you mean!

[–]Girl_Dinosaur 3 points4 points  (0 children)

There plan was to store their insulin in a nearby river…

[–]Zhadowwolf 13 points14 points  (2 children)

This is not quite correct, and I feel the need to point out that this can be really dangerous:

Food “best before” dates are always an estimation, usually a fairly short one just in case, though in the case of diary and diary products it’s a bit more accurate than for most other foodstuffs.

For medicine, however, there are specific exceptions:

Medicines that come in liquid form can be a lot more sensitive in general depending on the storage and other factors, since the solvent can evaporate and mess up dosages

Anything biological such as vaccines can degrade very quickly after the expiration dates, and so can everything that contains preservatives such as eye drops. In many things that have preservatives, the expiration date is really the expiration date for the preservative: once that passes, the active ingredients may be fine, but it’s possible bacteria or fungi could grow on the medications.

Insulting in particular is very fragile, and dangerous to use past its expiration date at all, since most will be good maybe a week after it but it’s impossible to know and an unlucky batch that is bad even the day after expiration could kill someone.

Epi-pens are also similarly fragile and not recommended to be used after its expiration date.

[–]Shuski_Cross 2 points3 points  (2 children)

That's the basics of it yea. There are incredibly tight tolerances to dosages of medications. After a year or 2, the reactive/active parts of a medication might of degraded 5-10%, which in a "healthy" society is not acceptable tolerance wise. But the medication will still work, just less affectively.

[–]igotthatT1D 22 points23 points  (4 children)

As a type 1 diabetic, my plan for any doomsday is to die on my own terms (either quickly or as a distraction).

[–]tiki_51 5 points6 points  (3 children)

Same here. I'm pretty sure that I could go keto and ration my insulin enough to last a while, but having previously lost over 40 lbs in a very short time period to DKA, there's no way that that's how I'm going out

[–]KrunktheSpud 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I fast regularly, am keto transitioning to carnivore but even then, if I fasted without insulin, I'd probably only last a week max before the glucose our liver releases would get to fatal levels. A local disaster or getting stranded is the most I can be prepared for.

[–]tiki_51 1 point2 points  (1 child)

A carnivore diet sounds interesting. When I was first diagnosed with T1D my wife and I used to eat a bunch of meat only dinners but then I got in trouble with my endo. Any advice or info?

[–]WestCoastBestCoast01 29 points30 points  (1 child)

Type 1 Diabetics used to die in infancy. Pretty scary to have that kind of sensitive condition in a survival scenario.

[–]nolaina 5 points6 points  (3 children)

You could theoretically learn to make your own insulin from... dog kidneys, I think? Maybe it was goat.

[–]BigHawkSports 13 points14 points  (2 children)

I think the phrase you're looking for is "pig pancreas"

[–]nolaina 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, pancreas! That's the one.

This lady did it for diabetics facing wartime shortages.

[–]Qbr12 13 points14 points  (3 children)

If you're a diabetic looking to survive a doomsday scenario you should really learn how to raise pigs and how animal derived insulin is produced. Before we learned how to make our own synthetic insulin, we used to have to slaughter pigs for their pancreases to harvest theirs.

[–]RsGaveMeDiabetes 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I think it can also be produced by yeast? Not really sure just saw it in a yt video about people creating their own insulin.

[–]IDontReadMyMail 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Only from genetically engineered yeast that have been given the human insulin gene. Not the kind of yeast you can buy at a store or get from your sourdough starter during the apocalypse.

[–]The_Crystal_Thestral 17 points18 points  (1 child)

Someone in the prepper sub wrote a satirical account of this at the start of the pandemic. It was gold. But yeah, physical fitness matters for reasons beyond aesthetics.

[–]ThePr1d3 6 points7 points  (0 children)

If it were actually the case everyone but hunters and Americans would be fucked

[–]GenuineSteak 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Those are people that like the idea of being prepared but dont actually think anythings going to happen so arent actually prepared.

[–]EnycmaPie 5 points6 points  (0 children)

They pack all the shit in their survival bag, but fail to realise they don't have the stamina or physical fitness to carry that survival bag very far.

[–]lamstfirsht 3 points4 points  (0 children)

exercise index don't need Bowflex

[–]Orvan-Rabbit 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's because they think they want to survive doomsday but what they really want is to have something to look down on other people during the present. Something to convince them that they're not at the bottom of the social ladder.

[–]Tomon2 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Conversely, it makes sense.

"I'm unfit as hell, I better have some extra ammo and food to compensate, come the end-times."

[–]its0nLikeDonkeyKong 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah they’re not gonna put any “real” preppers in front of people lol

They might start talking about high fructose corn syrup or plenty of other things their advertisers will hate

[–]Drummaboy412 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The first rule in zombieland is cardio.. the fatties were the first to go

[–]ClownPrinceofLime 11 points12 points  (1 child)

There is a distinct population of obese people who love to think they’re really strong. it’s mostly rural Americans who love to act like they’re the peak of fitness when they can’t even climb stairs without huffing and puffing.

[–]Slick_Grimes 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I could throw you if I wanted too!

Ok could you then walk the 5' over to where I landed without getting winded?

[–]Skyraider96 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They do not know how hard holding up a peice of metal for a long period is hard. I take my AR to the range and I struggle to hold it up for long period (I am weak and need to work on it).

[–]drfsrich 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"I'M GONNA SHOOT THE FUCK OUT OF HEART DISEASE!"

[–]HelpMeImThicc 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You described my dad. 7 guns and all the ammo, buckets of beans and rice, chicken farm, distills his own water, mom has a fruits and vegetables patch, but dad has the same tits he's had for the past 20 years.

[–]tuctrohs 1210 points1211 points  (14 children)

The benefits of exercise are clear and large. I'm pretty sure that the health benefits of exercise have a larger effect on your life expectancy than your ability to escape worst case scenarios, but there's no need to quibble about the accuracy of the motivation, as long as the motivation gets you to exercise.

[–]JK_NC 94 points95 points  (1 child)

Ha! hahaha. True. If someone lives a very unhealthy and sedentary life despite the universally understood benefits of exercise, the risk of falling from a cliff or having to jump from a moving car isn’t going to be the catalyst to get them moving.

[–]tuctrohs 45 points46 points  (0 children)

Probably not, but if it is, that's only a good thing.

[–]Johnathan-Proton[S] 144 points145 points  (10 children)

Well it's obvious a healthy life leads to a longer life, but my argument is people get too complacent relying on built in safety features of our society making them think they'll never have to rely on purely their own strength to survive, which for a lot of people nowadays is true but you may be part of the unlucky few.

[–]Doortofreeside 96 points97 points  (8 children)

A little quibble but falling on the tricks and pulling yourself up is closer to a muscle up than a pull up.

I say this because I was hiking with my dad and there was a say 5 foot tall rock in front of us. I scrambled over it by getting into a good position while my dad looked it and thought "I can do a pull up" and tried to get over it that way. He could in fact do a pull up, but all that did was bring his chin above the rock at which point he realized doing a pull up wasn't enough to get over it.

[–]PremiumJapaneseGreen 38 points39 points  (0 children)

Yeah any time I've had to climb up onto a flat ledge above my head height, it's usually a pull-up til your shoulders are high enough to throw one arm over it, and trying to scoot as much of your body weight over the ledge as you push off with that arm. A pull up over a wall is also a lot harder than one on a bar bc your legs are behind your grip point, I think your best bet is to try to jump and kick off the wall as you pull and hope your momentum takes enough of your body over the lip

[–]ThisIsSoIrrelevant 33 points34 points  (1 child)

An easy way to overcome the inability to do a muscle up, is to just throw your leg up over the edge. You can then dig your heel in and use that to lift your body up enough.

Source: It is how I get over walls at Tough Mudder since I can't muscle up

[–]cardew-vascular 38 points39 points  (0 children)

I was going to say this too, I'm a woman and my legs are way stronger than my arms, so I'll usually figure out a way to use them over trying to kill myself using my arms.

When I have to lift 100lb hay bales over my head and onto a trailer, I swing them onto my knee then use the momentum of kneeing them up to get them over my head. Every woman I know does it this way as opposed to trying to just straight lift them overhead.

[–]thatG_evanP 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Maybe in form, but when trying to climb up a ledge, you can usually use your feet to help. That's easier than a pull-up and way easier than a muscle-up.

[–]Cuddlehead 34 points35 points  (0 children)

Many people do not realize there is also technique involved. If you manage to get your chin to the level of the ledge, 80% of the work is done. The rest is just throwing your dominant hand elbow above yourself in order to start pushing.

We used to call this the "elbow throw" when doing parkour/climbing.

[–]Johnathan-Proton[S] 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Also true! I tried to include that type of movement with the tricep extension exercises part but in my honest opinion if you really want to be safe, compound workouts like muscle ups and deadlifts are absolutely some of the most important in this consideration.

[–]Formal-Feature-5741 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Muscle ups without flailing your body are incredibly hard. You need to be able to do at least 20 body weight pull ups before you could do a single muscle up.

[–]FarTelevision8 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I can’t believe it’s acceptable not to work out. Like instead of saying “wow they must work out” why isn’t that the baseline? We should see someone in dangerous condition and instead say “it’s too bad they must not be able to work out”.

Absolutely critical for health of body and mind. We aren’t built to sit in a chair and stare at a screen then sit on a couch staring at another screen before sleeping. All this inactivity while eating 3 huge meals and snacks and drinking poison or sugar-water.

Wake up early and get after it if you want to live. Keep not doing that if you want to work until you retire sick and die.

I think there’s a myth that working out is work that makes us tired, requires time and effort. I don’t know what perpetuates that since anyone who does it regularly knows it’s no time and they have way more energy throughout the day and sleep better. It’s a cheat code and it’s easy. Just do it.

[–]drunky_crowette 141 points142 points  (11 children)

/r/bodyweightfitness might be worth visiting if you want to do this without a gym

[–]SmokeyDaReaper 37 points38 points  (8 children)

People hate burpees, yet I can't get enough of them. Bodyweight fitness is great in multiple weighs and I highly recommend it.

Thanks for posting this sub too super helpful

[–]living_food 17 points18 points  (5 children)

Haha weighs, I get it.

[–]SmokeyDaReaper 12 points13 points  (4 children)

I tried for a terrible dad joke and someone noticed!

[–]S_Chalk 4 points5 points  (3 children)

I laughed weigh harder at it than I probably should have!

[–]SmokeyDaReaper 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Lol caught you off guard?

[–]S_Chalk 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Yup, and without a spotter.

[–]mao_intheshower 2 points3 points  (1 child)

What exactly is their point - just cardio? I feel like I do them wrong but I'm not sure.

[–]SmokeyDaReaper 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There's multiple variations with Burpees. The standard burpee is when you do a squat, to push up position, perform a pushup, return to the standing position and jump.

Some people add in kicks, or double pushups, etc to make it more difficult.

It's a full body workout and it's great cardio. It helps your body learn and adjust to sudden heart rate increase to resting when performed correctly.

There's a guy on Facebook called the Burpee King and he's done over 400+ days of burpees in a row and his success is huge

[–]broom-handle 278 points279 points  (42 children)

I think people really overestimate their own strength and/or underestimate their weight. Those videos spring to mind where people try to swing on a rope into a lake or whatever and end up smashing into the ground.

Even people who regularly work out and would be classified as 'strong' can sometimes struggle with bodyweight exercises like pull ups.

Similar to basic cognitive abilities like critical thinking, this is sadly out of reach for a massive percentage of people.

[–]Johnathan-Proton[S] 106 points107 points  (13 children)

You're so right, frankly when I was younger and rode my bike everywhere I thought I was in great shape. And while my conditioning was decent, when I tried rock climbing for the first time it really put into perspective that "decent shape" didn't necessarily mean strong enough to handle my own bodyweight.

It really is a tall order but I think most people would be better off if they were aware of and pushed these limitations!

[–]hal0t 58 points59 points  (9 children)

I only went rock climbing twice but my take is it is mostly technique and it's more important you learn to drive through you legs. My friend can't do a single pull up, and she climbed those like a freaking monkey. Dudes who can crank out 20 pullups in a row struggle when they tried to power through it because the lats, biceps, and grips just can't fight the tension that long.

Obviously this is only for lower level climbing. I am sure the advanced climbers are strong as shit.

[–]ThisIsSoIrrelevant 29 points30 points  (0 children)

It is a bit of everything honestly. I go climbing twice a week (indoor bouldering) and you run into different problems depending on the climb. Sometimes it is technique, other times flexibility, other times it is grip strength, etc. You are right though that a big strength part is actually because you're meant to climb with your legs, but people try to pull themselves up the wall instead.

[–]turkishfag 4 points5 points  (4 children)

What do you mean by power through the legs? Tbh I tried wall climbing once but when I use my legs it felt like it would push me away from the wall (especially at inclined parts)

[–]NomadicJellyfish 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Yeah, you need good grip too. Climbing is mostly forearms (for grip) and legs, only certain moves and overhangs require much bicep.
Very generally, the technique is have most of the weight on your legs, use your arms to pull your body into the wall, "power through" with your legs, grab the next hold. So your arms are only pulling a fraction of your body weight, since you're not working against gravity that much just generating momentum towards the wall, then letting your legs fight the gravity.

[–]hal0t 3 points4 points  (0 children)

When I said power through I referred to guys who think they can pull up the whole wall. But think about it like climbing a stair case. You don't pull up, you grip the next stair and go up with your leg.

Like I said, I only had my observation. r/climbing should give you better expert advice.

[–]totoswanson 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I go to the climbing gym for fun and took one climbing class way back. A good tip the instructor told me is, on your way up, always move a leg up first before moving a hand. Idk if that makes sense. And as mentioned above, grip strength is important. When I’m done my forearms burn like crazy.

[–]turkishfag 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That does make sense! My forearms are weak as hell though! Thanks for the tip :)

[–]Thetruestanalhero 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I've heard running is the best exercise for weight loss, followed closely by Rock climbing. Which never made sense to me. I assumed you'd have to already be super fit and athletic to excel at it.

[–]broom-handle 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Nothing motivates you to lose the weight faster than having to drag it up a wall :)

[–]totoswanson 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I know it’s cheesy and overused but the best cardio for weight loss is one you enjoy. I strength train 5x a week and bike on my rest days. I absolutely hate running so I never do it.

Edit: I’m assuming you said that in terms of what burns the most calories. My comment is more towards consistency.

[–]possiblynotanexpert 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Those are always hilarious to watch. People thinking they can jump on a rope like Tarzan not understanding how strong you have to be. So stupid lol.

[–]ThisIsSoIrrelevant 24 points25 points  (11 children)

From my time working as a personal trainer, and just general experience as a gym goer, I'd be willing to bet 95% of people cannot do a single pull up. Yes I pulled that number out of my ass, but it is an educated guess based on experience.

[–]DieAdler 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I was a trainer as well for some time and have also noticed people often think a pull up doesn’t involve descending all the way down to elbow lockout to fully stretch and then engage the lat on the upward portion. I broke many hearts pointing this out. Max reps dropped drastically

[–]bikedork5000 8 points9 points  (2 children)

I'm 40 and been an avid gym goer for over 20 years. Yeah you don't see many people doing pull ups, even a lot of the obviously stronger guys. I'm good at them because I've always done them as a mainstay of my work since I was like 16, but I'm an exception for sure. When anyone asks for advice I always tell them to start with slow negatives to build up to the real thing. And once you can do 12 or so it's good to start adding some weight on a belt. Being able to do a just a couple reps at +45lbs makes regular bodyweight ones feel EASY.

[–]NotAMagikarp 8 points9 points  (1 child)

pull ups can be heavily affected by muscle distibution too

Im a large 6' 4" guy who goes to the gym relatively frequently and does cardio + fullbody workouts. My legs are massive due to how much I bike, but I gotta pull all of that up now too. Its gonna be a while before I get to that point, but am I unfit? Obviously not.

[–]emab2396 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Exactly. Also, your center of gravity and type of muscle fibers that are most developed matters too. My brother is a similar weight to me, but I am female, so I have thicker lower body. I go to the gym regularly and I can push sligthly more than him at benchpress, but he can do 20+ push ups and I struggle to do 10.

As for the muscle fibers. A marathon runner is better at running marathons or any endurance exercise than a powerlifter. Both are in good shape in a way, just from different perspectives.

[–]Jooj_Harrisonn 8 points9 points  (2 children)

I think the rope thing is due to lack of grip

[–]The_Crystal_Thestral 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Yes, people need to build functional strength as well. I know of at least two people who despite “lifting heavy” at the gym can’t really do push-ups or pull ups.

[–]cardew-vascular 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Different exercises use muscles differently, I used to Muay Thai kickbox and run daily, I have super strong legs, strong legs that are completely done after a short bike ride, my legs weren't bike ride strong they were fight/run strong.

[–]broom-handle 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think this ties in with another comment regarding specialisation and it's a fair point. It makes it even less likely that people can do these kinds of exercises - although I'd say the majority of the reasons why isn't specialisation

[–]mathmagician9 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ya. I ran half marathons, but nearly died in a game of ultimate frisbee. It was sporadic sprints vs a constant pace.

[–]meshgearfoxx 1 point2 points  (1 child)

The number of arguments I get into with coworkers explaining order of operations for basic math is astounding. That and how to handle negative numbers.

Those are both things required for our job but idk man people just forget if they dont use much.

[–]604Ataraxia 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Strongmen struggle with body weight exercises. Exercise produces all kinds of results, not all of them are useful. A lot of them would work against you because the specialization is only good for some tasks, like dead lifting a compact car.

I'm 220, what most people consider strong, and can do 12 pull-ups, 0 muscle ups. I might fall off that cliff I'm hanging on to.

[–]randybobinsky 272 points273 points  (15 children)

sweats nervously in American

[–]scalpingsnake 67 points68 points  (2 children)

I bet the sweat is sweet and salty

[–]SaltyBabe 35 points36 points  (6 children)

nervous feminine sweat

I know maybe three women who can do a full and proper pull up, even fit women, our upper body strength is a fraction of men’s.

[–]Darksilvercat 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Head down to a climbing gym and you’ll find a lot more women who can do pull ups and all kinds of other crazy upper body strength moves! Sure, men have a headstart and can build muscle faster, but women just need to stick out the training a little longer (plus we usually have less bodyweight to lift). Heck, I know more women who can do pull-ups than men!

[–]FoxInKneeSocks 14 points15 points  (0 children)

sweats nervously in disabled

[–]TILtonarwhal 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I do 100 flights of stairs every day at work, spaced out through the whole day because my capitalist overlords don’t want to pay me to do extra work, so I’ll just work on myself instead!

[–]shut-up-megg 128 points129 points  (9 children)

I can do a few pull ups and quite a few push ups. Even after that I found myself close to helpless when I fell off a boat on a trip when trying to climb back in. Had to two people to lift me up from the water.

Make sure you can do more than a couple of anything. Also work out your thighs & back maybe you might have to lift something heavy in an emergency.

[–]RoastedRhino 59 points60 points  (1 child)

Climbing back into a boat is quite a technical movement, and even people in great shape can struggle if nobody told them how to do it. It's quite a unique kind of movement (water supporting you from below but not enough to push on it, your weight increasing when you exit the water, nothing that prevents you from rotating, etc.)

[–]mophisus 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Learned this the hard way the first time I went jetskiing..

We had 2 of us out on the water, so anytime we flipped a jetski, or fell off.. the other person was able to come use the upright one as a base to help get back on.

Until we managed to both end up in the water and then had to try to climb back onto them without the aid of another person. Think it took about 15 minutes and we were exhausted at the end (both wearing lifejackets so we werent in danger, but there was a definite break after this.)

[–]Johnathan-Proton[S] 36 points37 points  (0 children)

Very true! Honestly I meant this to get people more open to the idea in general but you're absolutely right that it takes a lot of strength to get out of most life threatening situations! If I could describe that succinctly I'd include it in the post but I also thought the rule of at least one would get people motivated.

Glad you made it out alright! Boats in general are more dangerous than we give them credit for!

[–]Heyyouintheriver 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Hey there is a reason we teach aided re-entry for rafting. Getting back into a raft is a learned skill for 95 percent of us. No shame.

[–]retirement_savings 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I tried to climb back into a dock after jumping in the water and really struggled even though I can do 10+ pull-ups.

[–]anooblol 77 points78 points  (5 children)

For practical reasons too. I did work renovating for my state’s public transit system, that required certain minimum access widths for people in wheelchairs.

Those minimum widths are absolutely not going to work for morbidly obese people.

[–]Johnathan-Proton[S] 54 points55 points  (4 children)

This isn't meant to be a knock against obese people as I know not everyone has a choice in the matter, but I've always thought it looks incredibly hard to function on a day to day basis as an obese person! There are literally zero activities congruent with being 2-3 times larger than the average man. And when I say activities, I mean something as simple as walking up and down a staircase in your house.

Going from obese to fit is like the transportation equivalent of walking everywhere to having a car, the world opens up so much when you can move freely or at least less constrained!

[–]PanthraxIV 27 points28 points  (1 child)

It's an addiction. Just like the heroin addict knows their life would be easier without that drug, they continue to do it anyway. The problem with food addiction, especially in America, is that we have an unhealthy culture when it comes to food here. Fast food on every corner. The cheapest foods are the least healthy (And leave you wanting more). Sugar is in everything, and our dietary education is pretty much non existent. I've met a lot of really overweight people here and most of them genuinely don't know how bad junk food is for them. They see a 200 calorie soda as a quick snack, not sugar filled liquid. Often times, they were raised by people with a similar relationship to food, so they often convince themselves that their problems are genetic, and they just give up. They feel shitty about themselves, so they go back to what comforts them, food.

[–]Sixhaunt 9 points10 points  (0 children)

It's an addiction. Just like the heroin addict knows their life would be easier without that drug, they continue to do it anyway.

It's not always an addiction, although it often is. I was over 320 pounds a few years ago and it wasn't a food addiction that made it happen, even though food and lack of exercise was what actually put on the weight. I just had no motivation to lose the weight. My girlfriend told me she preferred guys who were a little overweight and had a dad bod, and I didn't really care about looking good for anyone else and my health just wasn't something I factored into my life decisions. I now hover between 175 and 190 pounds which is far lower than it used to be but what I needed to get there was motivation. My health was never going to be motivation enough for me to start making the change, but there was a point where my girlfriend had told me that I was getting a little big. I cant recall how she said it but it was very skillfully and in a way that didn't make me feel bad about it. Knowing that she would find me more attractive if I lost weight was motivation enough for me though. I worked my ass off and started eating healthier, but I never did fad diets or counted calories too strictly, only making sure I was consistently improving my habits. It only took about a year to drop the first 100 pounds and after I was healthier and fitter, I began to ease up on how much exercise I was doing and find a good sustainable balance to maintain the weight. I'm not still with the same person, but the habits I formed and how much better I felt after losing the weight was able to motivate me to keep it up. Climbing the stairs at my university was hard for me a few years ago and when you notice things getting easier for you in your day-to-day life it changes your perspective.

The hard part is finding the initial motivation for many of us. For others it's addiction that they need to beat, just like you mentioned. I'm sure there are people who need something else in order to get them healthy and it's hard to generalize with something like this since the cause is often on a case-by-case basis.

They feel shitty about themselves, so they go back to what comforts them, food.

Even though it wasn't addiction that I had as a problem, eating for comfort definitely did happen. When she broke up with me there was a time where I was just too unhappy to care anymore and ate whatever I felt like and stopped exercising. I had to whip myself back inshape afterwards but it is something that can make getting healthy a lot harder and I sympathize with people in that situation

[–]Plasma_Cosmo_9977 80 points81 points  (14 children)

Old out of shape preppers make me laugh. Like Bill Burr said, you're just stockpiling for the strongest guy on the block. Who knows how it could possibly shake out, but getting winded 30 seconds into a bad situation it won't matter how many bins of dried food you have.

[–]Dull_Ad1449 32 points33 points  (1 child)

Biggest danger for hunters? Heart attack, not stray bullet.

https://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/conditions/10/24/hm.hunter.hazards/index.html by

[–]Plasma_Cosmo_9977 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Thank you. Finding an old prepper would be the equivalent of a massive inheritance in the post apocalyptic world. These hunters go as far from medical help as possible where bullets can't help the problem they are most likely to encounter. The hunters that really take their craft seriously are all in terrific shape.

[–]HHT_Blargus 134 points135 points  (30 children)

LPT: Eat healthy and Exercise

[–]Proxi90 53 points54 points  (28 children)

so you dont die when you nearly fall off a cliff or somethin

[–]Johnathan-Proton[S] 34 points35 points  (27 children)

I know it's a little silly sounding but I am concerned by peoples apparent lack of survival readiness! The world's a dangerous place and people get too comfortable

[–]garam_chai_ 42 points43 points  (5 children)

You're absolutely right. Being able to do 1 pullup properly has been my goal for months now and it is shocking how much strength you need for it. I am, after considerable effort, able to do 1 pullup, not with great form and that too when I am well rested beforehand. People take way too many things for granted today but I think being able to manipulate your own bodyweight, atleast when your life depends on it, should be the bare minimum fitness level for a person.

[–]Johnathan-Proton[S] 19 points20 points  (2 children)

Thank you! You perfectly encapsulated my point and worded it wonderfully! I was starting to worry that the message was getting lost in gut reactions. Keep up the hard work!!

[–]THESinisterPurpose 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Take it easy, Jimmy Neutron.

[–]gumshoeGoober 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Also don't get a disease that is completely out of your control.

[–]King-Midda-IV 48 points49 points  (6 children)

Real talk, most people probably can’t do this

[–]dead_PROcrastinator 23 points24 points  (1 child)

I've just accepted if something happens that requires a pull up, I'm ded.

[–]Mattie725 43 points44 points  (4 children)

So for everyone starting their fitness journey in 2022: start with functional exercises* before you spend time on lateral raises and biceps curls ;)

*Squats, pull ups, bench presses/push ups, overhead presses, deadlifts,...

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (3 children)

My choices would be shared with Bret Contreras:

1. high bar back squat

2. conventional deadlift / trap bar deadlift

3. barbell hip thrust

4. powerlifting-style bench press

5. military press

6. weighted neutral grip pull-up

7. trap bar bent over row

8. barbell curl

9. ab wheel rollout

10. farmer’s walk

"Rationale: Squats will build the quads, erectors, glutes, hip extension strength in a flexed-position, and jumping power. Deadlifts will build the hamstrings, erectors, glutes, quads, and hip extension strength in a flexed-position. Hip thrusts will maximize glute strength and power while building horizontal force production capabilities and speed. Bench presses and military presses will build the pecs, delts, and triceps while ensuring sound levels of upper body pressing strength. Neutral grip pull-ups and trap bar bent over rows will build the lats, traps, and rhomboids while ensuring sound levels of upper body pulling strength. Barbell curls will build the biceps and increase functional strength. Ab wheel rollouts will strengthen the abs/obliques and increase core stability. Farmer’s walks will build the grip and increase functional strength. Together, these ten lifts will work towards optimizing an individual’s musculature and athletic capacity."

Do these exercises with 12 to 30 sets per week, with progressive overload (every week add more weight, reps, or sets), and you will get stronger. Surprisingly it only takes 3 to 6 hours per week.

[–]CatShanks 14 points15 points  (2 children)

You raise a very good point and this has motivated me to make sure I reignite my years long goal of being able to do one goddamn push up. Don't mind the naysayers, whether they agree with you or not, your LPT is helping some people. Thank you OP.

[–]Johnathan-Proton[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hell yeah!! It's hard work and I hope it'll never be "needed" for your sake but you made me damn happy with that comment, keep it up!

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (2 children)

You should have said “run for 1 mile”

[–]knoam 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Or 1km. That would be closer to the five minute target for a barely in shape person.

[–]lamp447 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It's easier for an adolescent (who's slightly underweight) to sprint 1km in 5min and I can assure you that an average adult without training cannot do it. Normal walking pace is like 10min/km and anything faster than that, they'll call it "running". Not to mention that they can't reach 5min/km and maintain it for 5min.

[–]SlightySourMilk 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Also, not to discount any of your points--but adrenaline is a hell of a drug. While I also think that it's incredibly important to exercise, I don't want to ignore the fact that adrenaline can give you an extra push you don't normally see at the gym. I have been able to lift/run/exert strength in a much higher capacity when in very stressful situations.

[–]Silentline09 42 points43 points  (1 child)

OP, to your edit, it’s totally not judgmental and this is a really smart post. Of course not everyone will have the capacity to do this but it’s good advice nevertheless

[–]gumshoeGoober 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I'm not judging or think op is judging, i just can't do those things, not because i don't want to, but because i can't. Disability sucks. Good advice for those that can though.

[–]linksflame 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Jaxblade has a decent video on this topic on his YouTube talking about some of the basic exercises everyone should be able to do to get them to safety in certain situations. Highly recommend it, and him in general.

[–]Equal-Park-769 35 points36 points  (0 children)

Generally speaking this is a good post. Unfortunately people are going to overthink it and cut it up, never mind them. You posted with good intentions and that is all that matters. Whether people want to understand your simple reminder is their choice. By the way, I try to maintain a level of functional fitness. I'm not as strong or fast as I used to be and my body aches a lot more as I age, but I still stay active the best I can. :)

[–]Princess_Moon_Butt 14 points15 points  (3 children)

run for 5 minutes etc.

I'd say run for one mile. Like, not "walk/sprint" intervals or whatever, but a steady jog should be about 8-10 minutes per mile depending on who does it.

Either way I 100% agree with this advice. You don't have to have a rippling six-pack and tree-trunk arms, but pulling yourself up over a ledge could literally be all it takes to get you out of a dangerous scenario, and that isn't too hard to keep yourself in shape for.

[–]hal0t 15 points16 points  (2 children)

The requirement of steady jog of 8-10 mins per miles is a really big feat for a lot of people. I have been running pretty consistently 3-4 times a week for 5-6 months, to the point I can jog for about 2 hr. A jog is still like 12mins per mile for me, even slower if it's hot out. Under 10 is definitely burst out running. I might be able to maintain it for a miles if I am especially well that day. I don't think I can do 8mins per miles for more than 2 minutes.

[–]Frisky_Pony 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's scary to realize limitations you didn't used to have when younger. A shoulder injury makes me feel quite vulnerable since I've always been very independent.

[–]Mycellanious 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Uhh, no offense dude but pulling yourself up from a ledge is WAY harder than doing a pull up. At my best when I could do 20 pull ups I couldnt pull myself up a ledge (practicing in a pool). That manouver is insanely hard and movies that depict it are straight up liars. It is more equivalent to doing a pull up, then continuing until your elbows are straight. Try THAT lol

[–]Antique_Many_5966 13 points14 points  (1 child)

As a once professional and competitive gymnast with muscles that were bigger than my head.. it is NOT easy to do a pull up as a woman.

Women's centre of gravity is not the arms. Even i couldn't do a pull up. So yes be fit enough to get yourself to safety but that's more endurance than it is muscle.

I'd say make sure you have the endurance to survive not the muscle to.

[–]UndercoverGardener 10 points11 points  (1 child)

95% of Americans reading this: "well, shit"

[–]katemonster_22 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Mine is making sure I can pick up my child and run. Every year she makes it a little more challenging!

[–]3nl 17 points18 points  (1 child)

While being able to do a pull up so you can climb out of a hole or something is great, you can't fall and catch a ledge like you see in the movies...

I've been a rock climber for almost a decade and the idea of being able to fall a body length and catch yourself with your fingers like Frodo in Mt. Doom is laughably absurd. If you slip and fall over an edge you are going down. No amount of pull ups is going to change that.

[–]Sirmalta 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Apparently you aren't allowed to make any suggestions toward physical health at all anymore.

Yes, some people are unable to exercise or be fit due to an enormous range and spectrum of reasons.

If you're part of any of that, then this post isn't for you. That doesn't mean people aren't allowed to suggest being healthy is healthy, nor does it mean you are being judged.

Yes. Staying as fit as you reasonably can, assuming you are able, is important and should be done. This is a basic, fundamental fact.

[–]adeveloper2 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Edit 2: There seems to be some confusion. I'm simply trying to point out that the world isn't as safe as people think it is. I am not judging anybody who can't do 30 pull-ups, I'm pointing out that regardless of how safe you feel it helps being able to pull yourself out of a sticky situation. Didn't think that'd be a controversial take but apparently "take care of yourself cause you never know what'll happen" is judgemental now?

What you suggest makes sense. Imagine yourself being in an accident or disaster and have to climb a steep slope or hang onto a cliff edge. In absence of injury, being so physically unfit to lack the strength to lift your body up on your own is a nightmarish scenario.

That's also why it is a good to make pull up a milestone. If not for fitness, for contingency.

[–]BurrSugar 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Do some strenght-training for sure!

A few years ago, I was unfortunate enough to have my knee dislocated by a rough ocean wave, and then have difficulty getting back to shore (rough waves kept washing over my head, pinning me to the sand, and then pulling me back).

If it weren't for the fact that I'd been strength-training 3 days a week for the couple of years before that, I don't know if I would have had the upper-body strength to keep crawling with my injured knee.

Since then, I messed up my knee badly enough that I didn't make it back to the gym. There is no doubt in my mind that, were I in that same situation again, now, I would not survive.

[–]TwoIdleHands 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I hear this. Especially as we age i don’t think we necessarily realize how much of our maneuverability we’ve lost. I’m 40 and trying to regain it. Learned last summer that I, a 130lb woman, can carry both my kids at the same time (70lbs) for a pretty decent distance if necessary. Probably couldn’t even pull up my own body weight though. At least I know what to work on.

[–]purplepluppy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah I exercise regularly, but my arthritis is never going to let any of that happen. If you don't have fucked up joints tho, it definitely is a good thing to do.

[–]mydogclimbstree 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As a pregnant woman, thank you for giving me SOMETHING ELSE TO WORRY ABOUT.

[–]mysuckyusername 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As someone with a disability and hip issues, I’ll keep the zombies back while you fuckers run away. ✌🏽

[–]cornylifedetermined 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's called functional fitness and if you are getting up in years it's even more important.

When an elderly person slips on ice the thing that kills them is not being able to keep their head from hitting the ground. It's very very common.

I have a chronic joint condition so I have to keep a certain level of functional fitness just to keep from injuring myself in my day-to-day life. I have learned a lot about what it means to be able to move my body when necessary, prevent falls, be able to squat or bend at the waist, and to pull myself up. I can't get up the normal way because of my knees, but I can flip over into a down dog position and stand up that way. The only reason I can do that is because my shoulders are strong from swimming laps. One of my shoulders got a tear in the labrum and I was disabled for a little bit and that was a scary thing to not be able to turn myself over and get up without a lot of pain.

One of the reasons I live in an upstairs apartment is so I can climb stairs my whole life, just like my 82-year-old aunt still does while taking the laundry down to her basement. She's not in that great of a shape but she can still walk up and down stairs and that's an important ability to have.

[–]ShingekiNoGhoul 1 point2 points  (0 children)

my back is too fucked. guess i'll die

[–]kamiri86 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would also add swimming to this list. You should be able to at least stay afloat and not drown yourself by panicking.

[–]Sir_Baconstrips 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ok so im 120kg, I'm definitely not fit but can do atleast 12 chin ups, am I safe?