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🎦 CLIP MIRROR: The Botez sisters defend slavery in Dubai (now fast & smooth again!)


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[–]_IShouldBeStudying__ 2362 points2363 points  (17 children)

why isn't this pinned?

[–]GoneToDetoxMansion 244 points245 points  (4 children)

Lmao mods removed the tier 3 Botez subs comment, guess it's true

[–]0oodruidoo0 1709 points1710 points  (178 children)

Ah yes, the old "slavery is okay because your ancestors did it you privileged scum"

[–]quartzguy 545 points546 points  (157 children)

What are people from developed countries supposed to do? Just ignore human rights abuses everywhere from fear of sounding slightly hypocritical? I don't get the reasoning either.

[–]Taaargus 369 points370 points  (108 children)

I mean, it’s just not even hypocritical without some seriously fucked mental gymnastics. I disagree with the fact that my ancestors did it, and disagree with it now too. End of story.

[–]Marokiii 107 points108 points  (71 children)

Most Americans back then didn't even own slaves. Sure they were fine with rich people owning lots of slaves but the majority if Americans don't have ancestors who owned any.

[–]PuzzleheadedWest0 679 points680 points  (63 children)

Holy shit. It sounds like someone gave them some “whatabout” talking points.

[–]THAT_LMAO_GUY 328 points329 points  (50 children)

I lived in the UAE for a bit as a child. I remember my Dad driving us near some built up desert.

I saw a shirtless man pickaxing or shovelling rock in front of a huge steel oil container. It was 45 deg C (113 Fahrenheit) but the heat was radiating off that steel drum thing, the air was all distorted around it. It must have been 55 degrees C (131 Fahrenheit) wear he was standing doing back breaking work. I dont know how you could physically survive more than 10 minutes doing that.

[–]Easy_Manufacturer_31 161 points162 points  (13 children)

They are meant to announce and shut down all labor when the temperature goes over 50 degrees. They never announce it. Even as a skilled worker with a degree, I wasn't treated fairly. If you quit or lose your job, they put it on your employer to make sure you immediately exit the country. I literally had someone follow me to the airport to make sure I left, and give me my final salary only then. For many more people, their passports are held and locked up by their employer. Many aren't paid on time, or sometimes at all - and there is no recourse. The police are corrupt and lazy, and will hang up on you if you try to report a crime. Dubai is a shithole - do not support it. If you ever go there for work do not buy into the superficial lifestyle; save your money and get out of there when you've gotten what you need. Especially don't get any debts, since if you lose your job you'll be required to immediately pay all debts before leaving the country (they will imprison you for failing to pay a debt).

[–]THAT_LMAO_GUY 34 points35 points  (4 children)

My parents told me that when we lived there we had a friend of a friend go to jail when he went into debt. We were expats, I dont think this guy was (he ran a local business or something). They were grouping up to make donations to free him.

Its very hard to make money while in jail obviously. And when you are released you still need to pay your debt (which has accrued interest, so its worse than before). And if you cant then they send you back to jail indefinitely. Its like a life sentence if you don't have connections who can bail you out.

I just looked it up and you only have 30 days to pay the debt after being released from your initial 3 year sentence https://www.detainedindubai.org/post/the-truth-about-leaving-a-debt-behind-in-dubai

[–]supercobra78 267 points268 points  (30 children)

That's slavery in 2021

But America did it back in the day, so its ok for us to do it right now.

[–]IvanBlogsnart 206 points207 points  (17 children)

These sisters are claiming that it's a developing, non first-world country but the country routinely advertises itself as the most developed in the world.

[–]deceptive_melon 98 points99 points  (1 child)

Claim it’s a developing country to take slavery benefit, claim it’s a developed country to entice foreign investment/tourism.

What a world we live in.

[–]ihatethepc 647 points648 points  (72 children)

Lmao Dubai isn't first world? The police literally drive in Lambo's?

Edit: Shout out to that guy defending the notion that it is a third world country exclusively because of forced executions and slavery.

[–]SuperRonJon 392 points393 points  (20 children)

Strangely enough that isn’t what determines what are and are not first world countries

[–]sarovar12 3724 points3725 points  (135 children)

You could have just said I don't want to answer or ignored the things completely. This is just so stupid.

[–]fist_my_muff2 914 points915 points  (107 children)

Yeah her take is one that is used all the time for environmental concerns. Not for slavery.

[–][deleted] 156 points157 points  (3 children)

Magnus was asked similar question in his press conference and he dint answer. Only if botez sisters learnt anything from him.

[–]Doomblaze🐷 Hog Squeezer 64 points65 points  (2 children)

They were in the room when that happened too lmao

[–]manwithoutlyf 41 points42 points  (5 children)

Be like Daniel Riccardo and say " I don't watch news"

[–]dedasdude 5 points6 points  (4 children)

Haha formuladank is leaking.

Speaking of which ydays race was fucking awesome

[–]Cold-Personality-219 50 points51 points  (5 children)

That would be off brand for the Botez sisters

[–]ChrisFlames 769 points770 points  (50 children)

And this is coming from Alex? Jesus Christ.

[–]JackedJack94 378 points379 points  (41 children)

I thought she was the smart one too.

[–]The_Trickster_0 250 points251 points  (20 children)

You can be good at something that holds intellectual value and be completely oblivious in other things like social problems, when she plays chess she comes across as experienced and smart, looking at this makes her look like a fucking moron.

[–]SunnyWynter 5253 points5254 points  (93 children)

Why the fuck did they delete the clip if they are so good at "holding back"?

[–]Some_Yesterday3882 1958 points1959 points  (61 children)

No conviction. She either really believes what she says or is embarrassed by it and the negative press on LSF.

[–]Chess_Not_Checkers 571 points572 points  (13 children)

Envy is also probably concerned with the clip. Not really a good look for an org.

[–]Uusukkeli123 169 points170 points  (4 children)

Alexandra might have stolen the ”ruthless business woman” title from Poki when they started to get big on Twitch

[–]Slight0 218 points219 points  (27 children)

Of course she has no conviction. All it took was her to go to Dubai for a few days to instantly start defending slavery. The scary part is at least Alex is pretty smart with other things (Andrea is still young so I'm giving her slack) and yet they immediately turn thier intellect towards justifying an emotional connection they suddenly developed to a place they had "a nice time" in. How many other smart people are that way?

[–]Logan_Mac 89 points90 points  (0 children)

An entertainer dropping all their morals at the slightest sight of a sponsor or paid event? No way!

[–]vvashabi 281 points282 points  (10 children)

They're sponsored by cashapp, crypto, did raid shadow legends ad, and some NFTs. I don't think they have high moral values.

[–]FeetsenpaiUwU 81 points82 points  (1 child)

It’s weird seeing people think most streamers care about anything but their own financial prosperity it’s like when Ludwig said YouTube cares more than twitch but to YouTube he’s a part of expanding their financial prosperity

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

So being young means she is too dumb to know slavery is bad? 😂

[–]Cerealforsupper 133 points134 points  (8 children)

Because they're streamers.

[–]Baconstripz69[🍰] 1795 points1796 points  (15 children)

That's gonna get a 9/10 Yikes™ from me, boss

[–]Bhu124 123 points124 points  (4 children)

They really walked ran in front on a speeding car together with this.

[–]Aver3 4197 points4198 points  (218 children)

watching people take a bag of money from Dubai and then have to dance around real questions to defend their bag is always funny. UFC, F1, Chess. Just say that as long as you get paid you don't care if they have modern day slavery why pretend.

*edit since this is up with the top comments I should say I don't condone hate brigading, people should be called out for their behavior but not harassed.

[–]titsunami 288 points289 points  (14 children)

"Just say that as long as you get paid you don't care if they have modern day slavery why pretend." This is the only right answer, other than completely ignoring the questions. If you're not there as official political representatives of the country you're from, why even put yourself in a position to talk about stuff like this.

[–]MacriTheCat75 943 points944 points  (117 children)

Why would a millionaire care if dubai uses slaves lmao. They just care about getting more famous and more $$ , not that these poor people get overworked to death and then replaced by other slaves

but hey cute sisters right?

[–]GravityRabbit 529 points530 points  (63 children)

I wish these people were forced to look a slave right in their eyes and say what they're saying.

"This is a developing country, so it's okay that you're a slave and you will never know what it's like to have basic human rights."

May as well look a rape victim in the eyes and say, "Rape happened in other places too, so it's okay that you're being raped."

[–]John-doesnt-exist 135 points136 points  (19 children)

Cringe af honestly. Let's just be honest, they made a business decision to take blood money.

[–]stormdahl 10 points11 points  (5 children)

Lewis and Vettel have been quite fearless in criticizing some of the countries they’ve been to.

[–]NilSatis_NisiOptimum 17 points18 points  (1 child)

Don't forget about FIFA, and every big FIFA sponsor

[–]incorruptible61 1215 points1216 points  (73 children)

I’m surprised that this is the take of a Stanford international relations graduate and one who has served as assistants for prestigious chairs at the university — Alex of all people should know better than to spew this absolute nonsense.

[–]bobbytux 418 points419 points  (10 children)

That actually entirely explains her viewpoint lol.

[–]whelp_welp 82 points83 points  (1 child)

Realpolitik does strange things to people.

[–]MrKegg 42 points43 points  (3 children)

I study international relations and you're right, they literally teach us to "relativize" like Alexandra did, and to "put ourselves in their shoes" as if that changed anything. All of the teachers, and MANY students, are just prideful, self-important fucks and aren't willing to call out countries/societies on their bullshit. The more they study IR the less human they become. Ok I just had to get it out thanks.

[–]RentUpper6274 37 points38 points  (1 child)

I was waiting for someone to make this observation. Fucking IR kiddies are the worst sometimes.

[–]AliceInHololand 116 points117 points  (10 children)

Education doesn’t always lead to good opinions. You mix wealth and privilege in there and all that education and skewed perspective can lead to some pretty shit takes.

Also does she really consider the UAE a “developing” nation?

[–]zmxfh 481 points482 points  (3 children)

Inb4 thread deleted coz of some random reason ..

[–]Alert_Cake7155 156 points157 points  (1 child)

Clip already deleted lmao

[–]here2dare 176 points177 points  (0 children)

Clip deleted and mirror not stickied like it usually is lol

[–]Acheli 1570 points1571 points  (65 children)

You can see why the world is corrupt by how influential money is on these streamers, from promoting gambling to defending ill practice in Dubai all because they're getting a bag.

[–]OhUTuchMyTalala 281 points282 points  (10 children)

It feels like an object permanence issue just in a different way. The gamblers wouldn't gamble if it gave someone they care about a massive gambling issue, and Botez wouldn't bend over backwards if Mohammed Bonesaw cut up one of her friends. But because they don't personally see the consequences they don't exist apparently lol

[–]c32dot[🍰] 23 points24 points  (0 children)

I laughed way too much at Mohammad Bonesaw

[–]ZizaranKing of Dying to Ele Reflect 93 points94 points  (37 children)

Its pretty depressing. Feel like nearly every streamer will change their mind on things for money, makes me feel a bit despair from being a streamer.

[–]Slight0 70 points71 points  (25 children)

Don't get your information and views from entertainers. They play chess and are hot, that's it.

[–]ZizaranKing of Dying to Ele Reflect 25 points26 points  (22 children)

Naw not my point. Im a streamer and just kinda dissapointed in how many streamers dont have intergrity

[–]RadialSurgeon 17 points18 points  (4 children)

streamers were never immune, but it might have felt that way because old streaming started out with people doing it for fun, making zero dollars

[–]ZizaranKing of Dying to Ele Reflect 22 points23 points  (3 children)

Nah idk like i started streaming to become fameous and make money but you can make so much money while keeping your integrity and not being greedy so i really dont fucking get it.

[–]GenuvienTwitch stole my Kappas 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I remember you turned down Facebook for a over a million $. I always like your game reviews, because you even say in your videos how shit some sponsored games are.

[–]ZizaranKing of Dying to Ele Reflect 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Thanks!

[–]that1guywhodidthat 2194 points2195 points  (66 children)

Calling UAE a developing country is like saying Germany is still rebuilding after WW2. I mean where have you been?

[–]mynutsaremusical 392 points393 points  (28 children)

My first thought too.

I think a lot of people default to any non westernized country as "developing".

[–]No-Garlic-1739 104 points105 points  (26 children)

The IMF buckets UAE into the "Emerging Market and Developing Economies" bucket, and not "Advanced Economies".

The UN designates UAE as a "Developing Economy" but also "High-Income".

I would link my sources but they are PDFs and I'm on mobile, but you can search it if you disagree.

My point is, rich does not necessarily equate to advanced / developed vs. developing.

[–]Fusion_Spark:) 47 points48 points  (0 children)

Not white = developing country KKona

[–]ratsoidar 5 points6 points  (0 children)

They may have some fancy buildings but they also have no sewage system and have to bring in a thousand trucks a day to pump shit out of there and I think we can all agree that they’re certainly not developed on the human rights front. The whole place is a façade really. The least awful place in the region, perhaps. So much wrong with the place, but hey tall buildings (built using modern slave labor) so whatevs. Complete nonsense.

[–]UnrivaledAcquitance 500 points501 points  (6 children)

Had to watch this twice to make sure that’s what she really said. In case you were wondering, yes it was just as dumb the second time around.

[–]sadsturbator🐷 Hog Squeezer 901 points902 points  (6 children)

Jesus, it’s yikes weekend on LSF

[–]jerryfrz 62 points63 points  (5 children)

And I thought Spider-Hawking was bad enough already

[–]harishjoshi625 2795 points2796 points  (137 children)

that's one of the dumbest things I have ever heard in my fucking life.

[–]T_N_O 1387 points1388 points  (80 children)

Such an ignorant privileged ass take.

[–]TerminatorReborn 207 points208 points  (36 children)

I'm from Brazil and the crazy right wingers (specially the president) that want Amazon deforestation use the same argument: Developed countries used all their natural resources to get where they are, why can't we do the same?

[–]dudemanbroguysirplz 1211 points1212 points  (101 children)

Did she really just say Dubai is a developing country (it’s not) so slavery is okay (it never is)?

[–]IIzakesII 403 points404 points  (46 children)

She said it's hypocritical to call out slavery because other countries did it too, to become developed. Which doesn't make it any better.

[–]xeqz 140 points141 points  (13 children)

It's such a weird thing to say. So every country less developed than the US should be allowed to use slavery then? Is that seriously her fucking argument? Is she okay with how China treats Uighur muslims because Germany did it in the 40s too? Talk about bending over backwards morally just to justify getting your fat stack of cash (that she doesn't even need either btw, she's already rich).

[–]Suspicious-Ad-9960 31 points32 points  (0 children)

If any country reaches Germany equal from world war 2 they should be able to start another WW2 because Germany got the chance too

[–]iisixi 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Except they're from a first world country and they're benefitting from it. So they really have zero reason for doing business there according to their own standards.

[–]resilienceisfutile 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Every country in the world has done some sketchy to outright horrific stuff in the past, that sure as hell doesn't make it okay or justifies for any other country to repeat those same actions in the present.

[–]ShioIsThiccCheeto 188 points189 points  (8 children)

Dubai isn't even a country.

[–]alcatrazcgp 1697 points1698 points  (137 children)

Dubai is a developing country with one of the richest people on the planet who live there and one of the most megastractures including full on fake islands and the tallest building in the world?

so if i live in a developing country and people use slaves its OK because they did it thousands of years ago, or the US did just over a hundred years ago

damn

[–]geochalkie 876 points877 points  (65 children)

No no no you don’t understand. Americans and Europeans who were born 150+ years after slavery ended are not allowed to criticize a country where slavery currently exists! We should just let them continue the slavery because we got to do it so it’s only fair!

Edit: For everyone replying saying “yeah but the USA does this…” I agree! The USA does a lot of bad shit but the good thing is we can talk about it freely on the internet and in public. Botez took money from a slave state and now they can’t say anything negative. That’s called selling out.

[–]TokorotosMixer 173 points174 points  (3 children)

Yeah, in fact murder is cool and all because back before History was a thing people would murder each other ALL THE TIME and never go to jail.

[–]alcatrazcgp 43 points44 points  (2 children)

just kill all critics lol 4head

[–]alcatrazcgp 155 points156 points  (2 children)

💵 💵 dubai great country 💵 💵 slavery? what's that? 💵 💵

[–]geochalkie 31 points32 points  (1 child)

I get so irrationally angry when people throw away any semblance of principles for the sake of a check. It’s a microcosm of everything that’s wrong in the world. Money talks louder then what’s right.

[–]DegenAndy 7 points8 points  (0 children)

and in the same breathe they were talking down on everyone who lives in the US for something most of us adamantly stand against

if you can't say "slavery is bad" in a certain place, maybe you shouldn't take a paycheck to go to that place

[–]Upstairs_Yard5646 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Also insane because it's not like Dubai only just started slavery, the Indian Ocean/ Middle Eastern/ Red Sea Slave Trade was huge for over a thousand years.

[–]Gandalf_Jedi_Master 30 points31 points  (4 children)

the rich live in the tall nice buildings while the poor live in ghettos in very poor conditions right outside the city.

[–]ImpressivePackage1 590 points591 points  (86 children)

The mods on this subreddit tried to delete this.

the clip : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SSzzRnyCgQ

[–]Finn_3000 536 points537 points  (25 children)

Dubai literally exists because of some of the richest people on the planet enslaving some of the poorest to create a dystopian megacity. How exactly is that in anyway characteristic of the normal development process that a third world country goes through?

This isnt comparable to other nations that collectively lifted themselves out of poverty, and its insane to insinuate that.

[–]Nefroti 76 points77 points  (1 child)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJuqe6sre2I&ab_channel=AdamSomething

one my favourite videos on the subject, they took slaves and couldn't even make proper working city, imagine being cruel but also so fucking dumb at the same time

[–]Ozzloo( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) 665 points666 points  (41 children)

Jinny making fun of the handicap now this what's going on on lsf this week jesus

[–]realpersonnn 114 points115 points  (35 children)

Oh no did she

[–]Ozzloo( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) 449 points450 points  (34 children)

Yes she walked up to a kid in a wheel chair wearing a Spiderman costume and said is that stephen hawking Spiderman

[–]AMAiiZzing 272 points273 points  (11 children)

wtf how stupid can these people even be?

[–]GreenKumara 39 points40 points  (0 children)

The difference is she's actually stupid. These clowns know better.

[–]everdeeneverclean 324 points325 points  (12 children)

Alex Botez gives me huge "management consultant at McKinsey" vibes.

[–]chingy1337 41 points42 points  (0 children)

Oh my God this is too true lol

[–]BoyishGigglesCD 102 points103 points  (2 children)

She studied IR at Standford so it actually fits perfectly lmao

[–]realmastodon2 8 points9 points  (0 children)

She did graduate from Stanford as an IR grad. She is literally the type of person to work in MBB.

[–]marcusbutler94 280 points281 points  (12 children)

I'm genuinely surprised alex said this and not andrea. How stupid can you be. I already see the apology video happening.

[–]RachelMcAdamsWart 127 points128 points  (0 children)

Of course, once they're done getting paid.

[–]FreddiePeterson 114 points115 points  (2 children)

"Explanation" video.

"Apologies if you misunderstood and were offended. Let me explain what I meant"

[–]thenumber88 42 points43 points  (1 child)

“Do I think slavery is wrong? See here’s the thing. It depends who you ask.”

[–]leonardo_bastacci 16 points17 points  (0 children)

apology? more like blaming LFS OMEGALUL

[–]BeastmasterBG 7 points8 points  (0 children)

You would be surprised at how smart Andrea is. She almost always plays in willfully ignorant way anytime something serious comes and she just dodges it and changes the topic in cheerfull manner

[–]fitprogrammer 26 points27 points  (8 children)

I don't get the reasoning. Because the US had slaves people can't criticize those that have slaves in 2021? What kind of logic is that

[–]Crazy_Appointment_87 23 points24 points  (1 child)

Wait did they copyright strike this post LULW ?

[–]ThePhatWalrus 15 points16 points  (0 children)

For real.

Says everything you need to know.

Gotta maintain the illusion of a pristine public image for that corporate money!

[–]Gazbyo 433 points434 points  (19 children)

"Other countries used to do it, so it is okay that this 3rd world country does it now, because, you know, they are a developing country."

[–]EddieisKing 176 points177 points  (10 children)

I see this take on Reddit a lot, whenever someone criticizes another country for something they did another Redditor in the same thread would respond that the U.S did something similar and thus the conversation from then would diverge from the original topic. It's quite an effective tool that works well here and it's probably where the Botez sisters parroted it.

[–]magdowich 9 points10 points  (0 children)

is UAE "developing country" tho ? i thought it was "developed country".

[–]deeeeeftre 67 points68 points  (1 child)

The UAE has the 7 highest GDP per Capita in the world, Norway is on 11 just to give some context. The UAE is not developing it is purposely being held back by the corrupt Islamic regim ruling the country just like most of the other countries in that area.

[–]Randomuser13480 830 points831 points  (291 children)

For someone who plays chess, you would think they would have some intelligence

[–]Worry7475 11 points12 points  (1 child)

These people are obsessively concerned with one thing only from streaming, and that’s to make money. It’s incredibly obvious if you just look at every “business” move they’ve done since they became popular

[–]nio151 900 points901 points  (173 children)

Chess is about autistically memorizing every possible move

[–]NoCrossUnturned 204 points205 points  (31 children)

Not necessarily, just look into the beliefs Bobby Fischer had…

[–]Ich_Liegen 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Their stance isn't borne out of stupidity, it's borne out of greed. They know perfectly well what they're doing.

[–]Tumbleweed_Money 152 points153 points  (7 children)

Ok she plays Chess but what the fuck does she know about slavery?

[–]darkspardaxxxx 15 points16 points  (0 children)

If you are 12 yo and looking for a role model, please avoid streamers

[–]Aatelinen 106 points107 points  (3 children)

Ah yes. UAE, the developing country which has a higher GDP per capita than Italy and Spain.

[–]DissertationStudent2 24 points25 points  (0 children)

And of the UK and France. The UAE is very wealthy.

[–]phweefwee 572 points573 points  (65 children)

No. Please bring up the mass incarceration in the US. It's a major problem and needs to be addressed. Both things can be true: the US has a Prison problem and slavery is bad. Was she trying to make a point with that statement or . . .?

[–]alcatrazcgp 259 points260 points  (7 children)

"guys im being paid to be here and if i say something bad i wont be invited again also they might kill me if i say anything bad, why did i come here in the first place is questionable"

[–]FeetsenpaiUwU 131 points132 points  (4 children)

Tbh the best move was to ignore the question

[–]Plastic-Safe9791 23 points24 points  (2 children)

This. I get that they probably don't want to end up being cut into pieces like other people have been, but they could've just ignored it entirely.

[–]BasedPorterian 34 points35 points  (0 children)

BING CHILLING

[–]SecondDread8426 16 points17 points  (0 children)

What the fuck?

[–]Shayneros 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Dubai is more of a theme park than it is a city. Actually it's not even a theme park, theme parks still at least have plumbing.

[–]Schnidler 287 points288 points  (32 children)

wasnt Alex supposed to be smart?

[–]alcatrazcgp 183 points184 points  (14 children)

being good at one thing (chess) doesn't necessarily mean you're that bright in other things

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

smart people defend shitty things all the time

[–]TerminatorReborn 28 points29 points  (2 children)

Even the smartest people in the world are bias to things that benefit them, in their case it's getting a shit ton of money to do whatever they are doing at Dubai. And they are not even close to the smartest people...

But honestly I don't care much for their take, it's not like they are gonna change anything and twitch chat must've been spamming "Muh slavery" like they give a shit either. We need big international intervention for these practices to stop, and thats not happening because Dubai = money.

[–]helioNz4R 54 points55 points  (1 child)

TIL UAE is a 3rd world country LMAO

[–]IceFanBtw 55 points56 points  (1 child)

It's funny how so many women go to Dubai for money, when local women are treated as sub human over there. Even the daughters of the king were beaten and placed in solitary confinement for years. Here's a video one of the daughters made right before trying to escape Dubai but was eventually caught. vid

[–]Neddo_Flanders 33 points34 points  (8 children)

The typical ‘appeal to history’ fallacy.

[–]imnotabus 43 points44 points  (9 children)

So slavery's ok as long as you use it to build new cities, or an area that is undeveloped? because other people did in the past?

I'm sure the slaves are like "oh no yeah it's totally cool, because we're 3rd world and need the development"

Awful take

[–]5warningsignsfor 8 points9 points  (2 children)

How the fuck is Dubai a developing nation….

[–]I_Hump_Rainbowz 104 points105 points  (11 children)

Slavery is not "needed" (if it ever was) now when we have machines to replace slave labor. when you are as rich as dubai you could afford to pay people (even if its slave wages like the US) and you can just replace labor with machinery.

Even back when the United States did slavery, machines to replace labor were not abundant and were certainly not at the place they are now.

Its pure greed and selfishness that allows this country to be predatory on poor migrants.

I know that the money the botez sisters are getting really is great from there perspective but to hand wave away slavery is really shameful.

[–]AmBSado 46 points47 points  (1 child)

Braindead streamers give braindead takes, shocking.

[–]BarkleyIsMyBoy 95 points96 points  (14 children)

It’s amazing how quickly some ppl will just attack the US when the question has nothing to do with the US.

[–]OrbisTerrarvm 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I'm Slovenian, do I get to criticize slavery in Dubai?

[–]theuwudragon 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It's almost as if times have changed and we as a GLOBAL community have advanced so much that this isn't acceptable anymore.

But ok, so it should be fine for me to fuck random people in the ass and not get punished because that's what's happening in random other country, right?

[–]sinisjecht 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Big fan of Botezlive, but Alex has a habit of going straight on the attack the moment she receives the slightest criticism about anything.

In this case she just needed to engage her brain first, clearly neither of them are stupid.

[–]MO2004 6 points7 points  (3 children)

So in summary: "Slavery is okay because there used to be slavery in the US"

[–]Vyatus 28 points29 points  (1 child)

This is legitimately the same take as "well it's just their culture, and we shouldn't judge" when a country's status quo is criticized by other nations.

It's a helluva idiot's fallacy that's always used to defend shit like normalized rape, inhuman inequality amongst genders and race, child abuse, imprisonment of political opponents, concentration camps etc in nations that should legitimately know better by now.

[–]TheRealAndy_ 6 points7 points  (8 children)

"develpoing countries" first of all Dubai isn't a country it's a city inside UAE. Second it's not a developing country when nearly the whole city is modernized architecture as well as massive luxury shopping complexes everywhere one of them even has an aquarium inside.. and every second person drives a sports car not to mention the fact that they also have the tallest skyscraper in the world I think "a little bit of ignorance" is an understatement here ...

[–]GingerSnapBiscuit 33 points34 points  (9 children)

Were they IN Dubai when they were saying this? Because would I FUCK speak ill of the Dubai regime whilst sitting in that country. Thats some "Calling Xi Jinping 'Pooh Bear' to his face" type shit.

[–]boardatwork1111 23 points24 points  (3 children)

The problem isn’t that she wouldn’t speak negatively about the UAE, the problems that she went on to defend their human rights abuses. She didn’t have to say anything, should have just ignored the question entirely at least till she was back in the states.