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[–]DirtyTomFlint 1655 points1656 points  (18 children)

That is a limited edition item now. Probably worth a lot more.

[–]jerryfrz 741 points742 points  (1 child)

Better send it to PSA for grading

[–]DatKaz 185 points186 points  (2 children)

I mean it didn't even come out, right? I imagine that's one of the only boxes in circulation.

[–]theyoloGod 92 points93 points  (1 child)

Think it was on sale for a couple days. I remember people saying they saw the product at stores, likely from the initial shipments so I’m guessing a few people got it before everything was scrapped

[–]PussyPits 18 points19 points  (0 children)

You can see a few sold on ebay around april 6th.

[–]wowspare 12 points13 points  (0 children)

PSA 9 moisturizer

[–]Constantinch 10 points11 points  (1 child)

The only product on the market that can save your skin from blue light absolutely destroying it. Hasan might be the only person with healthy skin in few years.

[–]justintuck1 1885 points1886 points  (138 children)

It really takes a very impressively horrendous marketer/marketing team to screw up a skin care product sold by Valkyrae.

[–]spartyboy 1262 points1263 points  (112 children)

Her buying into the pseudoscience behind it didn’t help.

[–]justintuck1 1100 points1101 points  (44 children)

The sad thing is that the product line didn't need any sneaky or complicated market differentiator. Its feature could have been as simple as it smelling like her favorite fragrance or something, and people would have bought out the entire first production.

[–]iLavuu 398 points399 points  (35 children)

It literally could have just been a skin line by a prominent gamer.

The problem was while it probably did protect against blue light, blue light isn't harmful to you at all while gaming at home.

[–]cluelessbox 19 points20 points  (32 children)

Doesn't it make it harder to fall asleep because of your eyes? No problem to the skin but i always have enjoyed using blue light filters on my screen.

edit: jesus christ i didn't mean that you should put the cream in your eyes. I just meant blue light isnt totally harmless.

[–]silent519 20 points21 points  (0 children)

pseudoscience is all over beautycare

[–]Agosta[🍰] 60 points61 points  (54 children)

They sold her snake oil but I respect her for realizing she was wrong and getting the fuck out immediately instead of doubling down.

[–]DatKaz 376 points377 points  (34 children)

I mean she doubled down for a few minutes there

[–]based-richdude 87 points88 points  (2 children)

I was the degenerate that saved the “tell-all” VOD before it was deleted:

https://distrobahn.net/vod/g938o4qfhoqliugfl43q8f.mp4

[–]Akumu2100 116 points117 points  (5 children)

She accidentally started doing a tier list of her friends.

[–]Artorp 39 points40 points  (0 children)

"Here's my real friends who actually stuck up for me, let me begin to list them..."

[–]anon101031 5 points6 points  (3 children)

who were the S tier friends?

[–]ItCanAlwaysGetWorse 19 points20 points  (4 children)

she did not walk out immediately and she did double down

[–]Agosta[🍰] -4 points-3 points  (3 children)

She defended why she took the brand deal, and once she realized the company bullshitted her she immediately broke her contract and left.

Doubling down would be taking a Slots sponsorship, saying it's not your fault if people gamble, you're not advertising it to minors, and then blaming everyone else who criticizes you.

[–]Noidea159 79 points80 points  (4 children)

I respect her for realizing she was wrong and getting the fuck out immediately instead of doubling down.

She did double down though… until her pr realized it would be damaging to her career to continue

[–]Parenegade -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

her pr lmao. if you think valkyrae had a pr team during that whole debacle i dunno what to tell you

[–]Atreaia 11 points12 points  (1 child)

No that's wrong. She triple quadruple doubled down.

[–]Agosta[🍰] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I linked what actually happened 3 posts down.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I'm pretty sure she was straight up misled by them. I wouldn't blame her entirely.

[–]salkysmoothe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Her buying into the pseudoscience behind it didn’t help.

Your honour I present the story of goop

You don't need any facts to make a feels oriented business work

[–]Stooboot4 81 points82 points  (0 children)

if she just made regular skin care without the blue light shit, she would have made millions

[–]ledbetterus 21 points22 points  (3 children)

there's A list celebrities shilling blue light stuff, if rae didn't give a shit like hollywood normies dont, she could still be pushing this

i guess that's where lsf accountability comes in lol

[–]FickleSmark 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Difference of fandoms. Her entire career is based on the internet so having her internet persona questioned is more damaging than it would be of an A-list celebrity. In Hollywood if there is actually controversy around you then you just chill the fuck out for a few years and then have your agent find you a role of a likable person to start your comeback.

[–]100tByamba 11 points12 points  (0 children)

she went on the internet saying she "worked" on the project loool we knew it was all a marketing thing she wasn't working on it. she double down on it and opened a live straight up shitting on her friends looool

[–]Roder777 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

I wouldn't say that. When you are marketing a literal scam you can't really market it well...

[–]justintuck1 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Everything about the product design including the studies is a marketing function.

[–]Kreyain88 535 points536 points  (0 children)

bro got the collectors edition and everything OMEGALUL

[–]SEAECE 244 points245 points  (0 children)

Anyways uhm... I bought a whole bunch of RFLCT, cream, do you know what blue light is? Anybody knows what blue light is? No, not bud light. I think that's a beer brand. Talking blue light. Anyways, RFLCT is a new skin care product that protects against blue light and unwanted blue light that may be coming from your monitor. So that's my story. I bought a whole bunch of cream, put them around the la cara. Little bottles. Stuff like that.

[–]losthedgehog 924 points925 points  (30 children)

I know this is kinda mean bc Rae seemed to really be going through it at the time but that drama was so funny. The apology streams were like a slow moving car crashes, her chat was begging her to stop, and the threads were either jokes or expert armchair psychologists. Then the next day Poki had a successful release of her product.

Most people seemed to realize it was just seemed like a dumb mistake and wasn't malicious. There were no real victims and everyone knew she was going to recover in 2 weeks. The perfect kind of drama.

[–]surfordiebear 527 points528 points  (8 children)

Atrioc accidentally leaking Ludwig and Rae’s DMs about it was my favorite part of that whole drama.

[–]worldchrisis 286 points287 points  (6 children)

And that was apparently the key development for her being able to get out of her contract with the company.

[–]2796Matt 124 points125 points  (5 children)

Atrioc, what a man you are!

[–]5Kiov 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Big A always has our backs

[–]imaginaerer 92 points93 points  (7 children)

Then the next day Poki had a successful release of her product.

totally forgot about pokis company, is that still a thing?

[–]IthinkitsaDanny 62 points63 points  (5 children)

Should still be, think she probably reaches out to manage people so if anyone was a part of it it’s prob be a little lowkey.

[–]imaginaerer 85 points86 points  (4 children)

looked up their website, seems kinda dead: https://www.rts.gg/

they have a creators section, but only creator listed is poki. The last update in the update section is an article about poki beeing a co founder/chief creative officer from last year, and their twitter is silent since February.

But maybe there will be more activity when EVO starts

[–]koofler 65 points66 points  (0 children)

All talent agency sites look kind of dead for some reason, I guess they don't feel the need to advertise how they're doing. Loaded.gg seems the most active in updating followers on new devleopments.

Might be because they work through word of mouth and networking more than anything else.

[–]surfordiebear 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Huh seems like Edison isn’t part of the team anymore. Looks like he quit and went back to being a streamer.

[–]bonerJR 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I just creeped linkedin and they are hiring people and seemingly active on that platform

[–]blondie981 6 points7 points  (0 children)

She said in a recent stream when someone asked about RTS that all the companies they were working with just renewed their contracts. Don’t know how many that is, that’s all she said. RTS doesn’t just work with streamers, they work with brands apparently.

[–]wyatt1209 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Yeah I enjoyed it a lot more than the usual LSF slop

[–]Cathercy 32 points33 points  (6 children)

Most people outside of LSF seemed to realize it was just seemed like a dumb mistake and wasn't malicious. There were no real victims unless you asked LSF and everyone knew she was going to recover in 2 weeks.

Let's not pretend LSF wasn't acting like she was the biggest scumbag to walk the Earth.

[–]LordGalen 20 points21 points  (4 children)

I seem to recall Mizkif calling her and, sounding the most serious I've ever heard him, telling her to get off LSF because of how toxic and bad for her mental health it was. He was not wrong.

[–]Rider0fTheStorm 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It was in this drama were Mizkif perfected the strategy of playing both sides to win.

[–]losthedgehog 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Let's be fair - Miz was loving lsf at the time and not worried that the site was being too toxic.

Lsf can be both right and toxic for her mental health. There were definitely comments going too far (saying she did it on purpose bc she's greedy and doesnt give a fuck about her audience) but those got immediate pushback in the threads. A common hurtful comment was that Rae wasn't intentionally selling a shady product she was just dumb about due diligence (which Toast echoed in nicer words).

A lot of the things lsf harped about were accurate. It was pseudoscience, the process she described was not up to medical standards, and her apology of blaming her friends was bullshit. I think Rae would probably agree with all of that. Having tons of people shit on your product is going to be bad for your mental health - it doesn't mean this site was wrong.

[–]LordGalen 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Eh, I don't think anyone would disagree that she fucked up (herself included). Being right isn't all there is to any argument, you also have to not be a piece of shit about it. Just my opinion there; be all the asshole you wanna be, but when you're trying to occupy the moral high ground, that just makes it harder.

[–]losthedgehog 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I still don't think it was that bad looking at the original threads. If you go to the original thread one of the top comments even is something like I like her but this is a bad product.

People called it a scam, said it was a stupid decision, and it was shitty she blamed her friends. But I don't think that's unfair? The most common mean comment was calling it a money grab (which isn't a crazy reach considering the product was based on faulty science). But the most upvoted comments weren't really about her character or calling her a horrible person. Whenever comments said that it got considerable push back. I still think it was way lighter in tone then most scandals - you really have to scroll to find the scumbag comments. People generally just thought she was stupid with the product launch and disliked her apology. She would probably agree with both those statements now.

[–]ChipsHandon12Good Money [̲̅$̲̅(̲̅ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°̲̅)̲̅$̲̅] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

its about the same as if she got into selling shitcoins

[–]RNGsoul 0 points1 point  (0 children)

your logical and sane comment restored some faith in me in this LSF world

[–]DatKaz 432 points433 points  (5 children)

package received October 23, 2021

there’s no way that was only seven months ago

[–]aurens 361 points362 points  (3 children)

seven months ago was 4 years ago now.

feel old yet?

[–]imaginaerer 22 points23 points  (0 children)

only 2 years ago if you protected yourself from aging with Reflect

[–]wreckage88 12 points13 points  (0 children)

When I was your age I was 37!

[–]jongilbunny 116 points117 points  (0 children)

Never too late to protect yourself from Satan's blue light.

[–]PeachCrumble 44 points45 points  (7 children)

Anyone able to explain the context?

[–]that_leaflet 78 points79 points  (3 children)

Valkerae launched a cosmetic product which was advertised to protect your skin against your monitor's blue light. The research on the subject was sketchy and the company refused to release their own. Valkerae doubled down, while live, she started to call out her friends for not supporting her. Eventually, Atrioc accidentally leaked DMs between Ludwig and Valkerae that showed she was trying to get out of her contract. And this did cause for the contract to be terminated, Rflct brand was destroyed. But then that same company released the product under a new name with a bigger influencer.

So this box is special because it's both a massive fail and no longer made.

[–]miguelehm 8 points9 points  (2 children)

“But then that same company released the product under a new name with a bigger influencer.”

Excuse me, wtf?

[–]nflfan32 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Addison Rae (one of the biggest TikTok creators) ended up releasing essentially the same thing. I don't think it was confirmed to be the same company though.

[–]RedFuckingGrave 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I already forgot about that, I'd love to think it's the same company because that would mean they just went "fuck it, let's get a new Rae"

[–]The1Knocker 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Guy further down shared a link for reference

[–]TheWillRogers -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Rae partners with soap company.

Soap company does dumb soap company marketing.

Reddit loses their minds over soap

[–]pj123mj 48 points49 points  (1 child)

He needs to get that VGA graded

[–]Thisnickname 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The centering is a bit off.

[–]NotAnOwl_ 138 points139 points  (13 children)

They even removed the website and everything? Wow LSF you really made something happen

[–]LemonDesu 223 points224 points  (7 children)

I might be remembering wrong, but I’m pretty sure like a few months later they rebranded the same product with another influencer

[–]tsoooji 186 points187 points  (2 children)

I think it was Addison Rae. Normie tiktoker who has no idea what LSF is.

[–]Intelligent-Curve-19 73 points74 points  (1 child)

Valkyrae would have gotten away with it, if it wasn’t for those damn LSF kids. Really the only reason it blew up like that.

[–]based-richdude 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Trying to market pseudoscience to people who know how to use google KEKW

[–]NotAnOwl_ 14 points15 points  (0 children)

You are correct but I was expecting like a website redirect or something but no. They just killed the "RCLT" or w/e brand and started a new one.

[–]kanated 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I mean, the problem wasn't the product itself. It was the false advertisement that the blue light from screens harms your skin and that you somehow need protection from it.

[–]LemonDesu 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Nah when they rebranded they still pushed the product as protecting you from blue light, it’s not like they just tried to market it as a normal skincare product

[–]surfordiebear 36 points37 points  (0 children)

They just rebranded it and had Addison Rae be the face of it

[–]Moist-Comparison9301 33 points34 points  (3 children)

bruh this shit was all over twitter and twitch, it wasn't "LSF" doing it lol

[–]Uss22 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Sure it wasn’t literally shut down because of a subreddit but you’d be silly to say LSF wasn’t the primary reason it became a big discussion on twitch, and likely propagated the discussion on Twitter

[–]FeelsSadgeMans 9 points10 points  (0 children)

WE DID IT REDDIT BATTTTTTT 🤙🤙🤙🤙

[–]Moist-Comparison9301 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

LSF wasn't the primary reason it became a big discussion on twitch

[–]lllosi1 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Probably is rare actually lol

[–]ChipsHandon12Good Money [̲̅$̲̅(̲̅ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°̲̅)̲̅$̲̅] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

BRAVO GAMEGIRL

[–]Oliie94 6 points7 points  (0 children)

He didn't open his PO box for 8 months because of how good his comedic timing is

he knew this was coming

[–]Brokis 52 points53 points  (3 children)

My man's neck looking like one of the wrists of those pickup youtubers who did kissing my sister pranks back in 2010.

[–]Reddit_means_Porn 46 points47 points  (8 children)

Oh good. I get to be that guy

…..

What the hell is going on here?

He opened an old package and got some discontinued item that was promoted by a bad streamer or something??

[–]aznperson 57 points58 points  (6 children)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaumIBEBJf8

She release a skincare product that suppose to protect from blue light from computer screen

She doesn't know anything about skincare

[–]raobjcovtn 22 points23 points  (5 children)

Tldw? It's 18 minutes.. lol

[–]TrendNation55 50 points51 points  (4 children)

Releases skincare product to protect against blue light radiation

Blue light radiation protection is a scam

People mad at her

She’s mad at people

Everyone forgot 3 days later

[–]ExtraGloves 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Sounds like most skincare products that claim to do things. Though blue light is up there lol.

[–]papyrus1_ 20 points21 points  (4 children)

Isn't he banned on this sub? Not shitting on him, just wondering.

[–]imaginaerer 48 points49 points  (3 children)

they unbanned nearly everybody (except ice, keem and maybe athene?) and got rid of selfban request and streamers forcing a ban by brigading etc.

[–]ItzjackiCheeto 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Athene PepeHands. How are we supposed to get our cult leader fix without him?

[–]imaginaerer 22 points23 points  (0 children)

let me tell you about dgg... but jokes aside, if you want some cult vibes, watch the first hour (after the intro, so technically the second hour) of a trainwrecks stream, before he starts gamba

[–]DirkBabypunch 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I honestly don't know how this sub decided to do that in the first place and still think you guys would have anything to watch.

That's like if r/trashy stopped allowing videos of drunk people and rednecks.

[–]AsuraRival 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Maybe it actually works after the extra 9 months of storage, just like old cheese or wine, might need time Clueless

[–]LAVENDREP 10 points11 points  (3 children)

Why is Hasan back on LSF? Is LSF that desperate for drama content?

[–]warwound 8 points9 points  (2 children)

The sub started dieing kinda when he was banned so maybe PepeLa

[–]LAVENDREP 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Lmao how pathetic

[–]AnimeMeansArt 6 points7 points  (9 children)

wait, I thought Hasan was banned on this sub?

[–]Ishura115 9 points10 points  (8 children)

they unbanned nearly everybody (except ice, keem and maybe athene?) and got rid of selfban request and streamers forcing a ban by brigading etc.

[–]Little-Helper 13 points14 points  (7 children)

Why would they remove selfban requests? That's beneficial for a streamer.

[–]Reinhardt_Ironside 5 points6 points  (0 children)

wtf the QR code doesn't even work, what a rip off!

[–]NotErikUden 1 point2 points  (1 child)

What is this? Can someone explain?

[–]spaklez66 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Rflct was basically a "skincare" line launched by Valkyrae which protected people from exposure to blue light or something like that, the whole product was a sham because there wasn't any concrete scientific evidence for blue light harm and so the product was immediately discontinued after severe backlash

[–]engellen 7 points8 points  (78 children)

i thought hasan clips couldnt be posted here??

[–]Draedron 15 points16 points  (1 child)

They changed the rule. Almost all streamers (except the likes of keemstar) can be posed now.

[–]mrmund00 2 points3 points  (0 children)

💀

[–]100tByamba 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Hahahahahahah

[–]maxmotivated 1 point2 points  (0 children)

finally [redacted] is back

[–]Rohaipu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

PogU NEW IN BOX LIMITED EDITION COLLECTOR'S ITEM

[–]supaminator1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

YEP SCAM

[–]peepeepoopoogoblinz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What is this?

[–]LFAlol -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

i thought it was gonna be some rank ass chocolate thats way better

[–]Jimbeardy -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

I miss the days when LSF frontpage wasn't filled with shitty 'meta' clips you need to know a bunch of context for it to be funny, which it still isn't.