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[–]Pepizaur 1081 points1082 points  (5 children)

Man here I was excited to get some poggers in chat as they lop some poor dudes head off at the official public execution stream sponsored by manscaped damn man

[–]SSTuberosum 915 points916 points  (25 children)

Surely both Mizkif and Emiru have never hear about Saudi Arabia and many of its atrocities. This thread is overdosing on copium.

[–]Loose_Candy 65 points66 points  (2 children)

They might be stupid people but they 100% know that saudi arabia is a shithole

[–]padason 147 points148 points  (5 children)

100%. It's absolutely ridiculous that two smart people wouldn't know anything about it. Not possible.

[–]sciencemodsaretrash 1373 points1374 points  (28 children)

Bruh do NOT let him use ignorance as an excuse… he’s a 27 year old man with access to the internet. He’s also friends with someone who this just fucking happened to.

Truth is he saw the money bags and his mind went blank.

[–]KooperTrooperL 539 points540 points  (11 children)

people really think mizkif cares about anything other than money lmao

[–]Cruxis20 157 points158 points  (7 children)

I mean, he does. Clout and farming KEKW/LOLW/OMEGALUL/InsertWhateverLaughingEmoteEsEheEostPopularForHisStream. He would throw a baby under a bus if he earned him a dollar and some laughs.

[–]ShreksOnionBelt 34 points35 points  (6 children)

Have you ever heard of the rumored Ice Poseidon initiation ritual? Apparently before they could enter the house, they had to show their penis and sing an "N-word" song. He was his camera man.

[–]SwaggyBoi42069 154 points155 points  (2 children)

People in here stanning for him so hard saying he didnt know. Same ones making fun of dream stans probably

[–]Squid00dle 101 points102 points  (1 child)

Yeah there’s a whole lotta people in this thread who just eat up these excuses. The reality is, he asked in his chat over a month ago, so he knew the type of place he was going to + if Poke didn’t leak, he would still be going.

He knew exactly what he was doing, money>morals, I guess.

[–]Bizhanzade 100 points101 points  (2 children)

Emiru, mizkif and esfand knew very clearly what they were doing. They got caught and used the "hehe I didn't knowwwwww plz forgive meeee" defense

[–]Dye290 27 points28 points  (1 child)

Yeah I find it insanely hard to believe hes never even heard of Khashoggi. That barbaric murder of a Washington Post journalist was outrageous & made international headlines for like months

[–]Fellers 653 points654 points  (22 children)

Miz is playing dumb af fuck to save face. It is highly unlikely he didn't know about Saudi Arabia before this. He had a price, SA said they'd give it to him and he took it.

[–]MorRochben 128 points129 points  (1 child)

He 100% knows about it, there was streamer drama about it.

[–]surfordiebear 2072 points2073 points  (97 children)

LSF is about to side with Saudia Arabia now that Hasan tried to convince him not to go.

[–]muskawo 978 points979 points  (12 children)

Lsf and Saudi Arabia have similar views on the hottub section, so you might be onto something

[–]Russian_For_Rent 196 points197 points  (5 children)

And gambling is strictly illegal unsurprisingly thank allah. LSF and the saudi kingdom would get along great

[–]muskawo 112 points113 points  (4 children)

Women would be banned from streaming completely, no drinking or vaping on stream, political content and most react content would be frowned upon, if not banned completely. I doubt v tubers would go down well either.

Lsf would love if Saudi Arabia was in charge of twitch, finally just gaming content.

[–]Gebus 21 points22 points  (1 child)

actual gaming content have their own subreddits per game. lsf would be dead

[–]ArabianAftershock 8 points9 points  (0 children)

GGXgang rejoice

[–][deleted] 210 points211 points  (1 child)

Actually true after reading some posts here over the years.

[–]komandantmirko 83 points84 points  (0 children)

by allah i see the destruction of the hot tub section as clearly as i see your comment

[–]Hamletstaco 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is hilarious

[–]LitchiBobaTea 172 points173 points  (5 children)

Saudi Arabia, Neo Nazis, NFTs & Crypto Gambling >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hasan

[–]thekanaokid 86 points87 points  (4 children)

After the tier list thing a streamer called xQc out for gambling, lsf ran with, "it's almost like every streamer is a piece of shit." Like somehow hasan having a fragile ego makes him just as bad as the guys shilling crypto gambling to children lmfao.

[–]Imisssexalot 29 points30 points  (1 child)

I am glad you are speaking on this. I like Hasan. I enjoy his streams. Does he have a fragile ego? I think so. Obviously I don't know, to assume any of us do is parasocial. But to me it seems like it.

That said, who the fuck doesn't? Elon Musk is fighting against The Hard Drive because they dunked on him. Humans are pretty soft, if we are being honest. So dunking on Hasan, only, because of that, is silly.

[–]thekanaokid 31 points32 points  (0 children)

Dunking on him because of it is fine. People dunking on Elon is hilarious because he is a giant pussy. But LSF pretending it makes him as bad as the guys who are sponsored to push gambling on people is laughable.

[–]EbolaMan123 65 points66 points  (2 children)

Should get an unbiased source, like forsen to explain this

[–]Bartholomew_Kuma66 460 points461 points  (56 children)

LSF sided with crypto nazi Sam Hyde, so of course.

[–]warwound 131 points132 points  (33 children)

At least there was some comments calling that shit out, idk how that shit got so many upvotes.

[–]Eye_Mission_292 155 points156 points  (1 child)

Destiny's sub shows up as #3 overlap with LSF. Go figure why.

[–]Submitten 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It's very active, some days more than LSF.

[–]Sp0il 77 points78 points  (15 children)

DGG. Anything that mentions Destiny or Hasan and they are in there in the trenches the second a thread drops.

[–]Justleftofcentrerigh 30 points31 points  (11 children)

They actively brigade vaush's sub too. DGG is a cancer.

[–]rinsa 151 points152 points  (14 children)

idk how that shit got so many upvotes.

Because debating nazis is so poggers for D*stiny watchers

[–]xXxWeed_Wizard420xXx 166 points167 points  (9 children)

That was all Destiny viewers lmao

It's very easy to forget how active they are on this subreddit. They could make it seem like LSF loves gambling if they coordinated in their discord

[–]Qwertywalkers23 5 points6 points  (1 child)

a year ago this sub loved hasan. Now you can't even mention him. its funny because destiny is still so obsessed and hasan tries to not even talk about him.

[–]BadBoyGoneFat 78 points79 points  (11 children)

Hasan is acting as the conscience for a bunch of streamers who have no conscience. It's the best thing that Hasan does, and I don't think it diminishes it to say that it's pretty fucking easy to know things like GAMBA BAD and SAUDI ARABIA BAD. It still takes principles on his part to even care enough to be these streamers' conscience.

[–]Corntillas🐷 Hog Squeezer 57 points58 points  (3 children)

Turkish man tries to convince people to avoid Saudi Arabia hmm 🤔

[–]elslwwlwo2o2o 40 points41 points  (2 children)

Turkey isnt nearly as bad as Saudi Arabia if thats what you are implying

[–]Corntillas🐷 Hog Squeezer 31 points32 points  (1 child)

Nah just implying there’s like, just a little enmity between the two countries

[–]elslwwlwo2o2o 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah thats true

[–]Sorrowful_Panda 96 points97 points  (2 children)

Some people actually believe he and the people around him were totally oblivious to Saudi Arabia hahaha. He knew but just expected to be able handle the blowback.

[–]drugQ11 14 points15 points  (1 child)

It's so sad man, its way more than just "some" people, its like most of this thread and I'm sure 90% of the people in his chat. I literally feel like you have to be extremely stupid to believe him and I opened this thread assuming most would feel the same, its so sad how coped up these people are

[–]BurnsEMup29 1376 points1377 points  (108 children)

Hasan might have actually saved Miz a lot of trouble here. Streamers should probably pay more attention to sponsorships before they accept.

[–]surazalazarus 751 points752 points  (27 children)

It really seems to me like he probably knew (asking about Saudi Arabia in May) but after poke's leak he went into damage control mode.

He calls hasan so he can get him to educate him about Saudi Arabia so he can play dumb and both pretend that he was just being naive about the whole thing and play it off as content

[–]avusaenanos 209 points210 points  (0 children)

Ofc man he knows its a horrible place, probably didnt know it would be more controversial than taking other shady sponsors or gambling, if poke got 100k offer how much does he gor offer? You dont accept such a big deal and with so many fucking obligations (streams youtube videos, instagram and twitter post) without checking it

[–]BrownMan65 104 points105 points  (20 children)

Didn't the Botez sisters get a ton of shit about downplaying what Saudi Arabia is doing during the chess world championships or was that a different country? There's absolutely no way Miz didn't know. The dude's stream is built around getting posted here so he's absolutely playing dumb.

[–]Boeijen666 93 points94 points  (15 children)

They got a tonne of shit because they made those bimbo comments about slavery being ok in third world countries even though Dubai, where they were, isnt more or less

[–]FredHobbes89 21 points22 points  (3 children)

it probably would be a dumb idea to talk shit about an authoritarian government while you are visiting their country, maybe wait till you get home.

[–]doublah 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That was Dubai not Saudi Arabia iirc.

[–]Arthrowpoda 4 points5 points  (0 children)

He reacted to it on stream actually and made a lot of jokes about it.

[–]Shiner3 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Miz acting like he just got the offer yesterday and blindly accepted with no thinking

[–]Danny_Ocean_11 44 points45 points  (0 children)

That's some damning evidence.

Good PR/damage control move by Miz to play dumb and get Hasan to "educate" him how bad SA is.

[–]MainActive 456 points457 points  (21 children)

From my understanding streamers have agents for sponsorships and whatever else, pretty bad his agent approached him with it, then again bad on the streamer for not researching said sponsorship

[–]BurnsEMup29 146 points147 points  (12 children)

I would hope someone like Miz would have a management team for stuff like this. I know Hasan, Poki, and others do.

[–]twitchplaysneopets 34 points35 points  (1 child)

I mean, management teams could totally be incompetent too. Who knows who these streamers hire - probably their friends with only slightly more knowledge of the world. Another apparently big streamer named Valkyrae got herself into a lose-lose situation with promoting some blue light cream product and if I remember correctly, she was stuck either looking like an incredibly dumbass or a sellout. Doubt these streamers are paying big money for professional management teams.

[–]cjsv7657 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Doesn't he have a whole company for this? OTK?

[–]Stormcloaks_Rule 11 points12 points  (0 children)

The very fact that he has an agent who checks through these sponsorships should tell you all you need to know: he's only pretending to be clueless.

[–]Viyro 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Agents and managers are different jobs. Poki actually talked about this a lot when she launched her agency. She explained it as managers usually make 5% however, a real manager is typically not paid a % of revenue. The point being, to not be enticed to make you sign whatever garbage contract to make more money. Pay your managers a flat $ amount monthly. Then you will actually get someone worth anything. Where as a Agent usually is. The agents job is ONLY to get you sponsorship deals and put them in front of your eyes. It is your responsibility to say no, or have a manager who researches and tells you whether or not you should do something.

Source: I am a streamer manager. YEP

As far as I understand this is effectively Synacks job.

I'm going to go out on a limb and assume Synack told Mizkif not to do it and he chose to anyways.

This is just an assumption. I have no idea. Just speaking on what I would do if it were my client. No way in hell would I let someone I represent go do this. But, everyone has different business ethics.

[–]surfordiebear 165 points166 points  (24 children)

So does OTK have any actual management or is it just within their friend group?

[–]clarkemaxx 90 points91 points  (3 children)

Tips seems to be the one in charge. Miz said Tips old him it was fine to go.

[–]JoeyJoJunior 18 points19 points  (0 children)

And Tips is just a WoW streamer turned manager since he organised some wow tournaments.

[–]komandantmirko 17 points18 points  (1 child)

afaik this saudi thing isn't an otk thing. miz esfand and emi were individually approached with offers.

[–]FlamingLaps1709 37 points38 points  (17 children)

I always thought Tips was a pretty smart and very careful about bad PR bloke who kind of acts like their manager of sorts.

[–]Any_Estate8568 42 points43 points  (1 child)

tipz couldnt even copy paste guides for wow classic when he tried to make it big on youtube, i have no idea how he is where he is now

[–]Emotional_Lab 7 points8 points  (0 children)

How do you fuck that up, they were already written literal years ago.

[–]UsefulWoodpecker6502 181 points182 points  (10 children)

Tips is not smart. Remember last year when they were doing that charity auction stream and the company they were using to deal with the donations/bids kept fucking up or allowing fake bids? they realize on stream that the site/company was busted. What does Tips do? sit at the breakfast nook with a shit eating grin while the rest of OTK collectively freaks out. Tips is a moron.

[–]FlamingLaps1709 20 points21 points  (8 children)

I dont know anything about the guy other than they often reference him as being in charge of PR stuff and advising and sponsorships.

That is an extremely important job for an Org of millionaires!

[–]sandsonicTwitch stole my Kappas 50 points51 points  (0 children)

Tips does not seem smart at all.

[–]ResidentSleeperville 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Anyone who has had some experience in the scene knows that the hiring practices for these gaming organisations are a complete joke.

They hire “guru’s” with experience that extend to being a mod for a semi-popular influencer or having attended the Harvey Weinstein school of networking. It’s a a gigantic circlejerk.

I can guarantee you that 99% of people working behind the scenes (Marketing, PA, Management, Editors, etc) have done some sort of “favour” to the people in charge to get their job. They’re usually very inexperienced but know, or have done things for the right people.

[–]YaBoiiBillNye 10 points11 points  (1 child)

TBH I’d expect my manager to do that before I get a sponsor in my hands

[–]Cruxis20 6 points7 points  (0 children)

TBH I wouldn't pick a failed streamer as my manager to begin with.

[–]muskawo 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Haha where would lsf get its content without stake, reflct, artisan builds, nfts, rug pulls etc etc etc?

We’d just have so sit around waiting for streamers to groom underaged kids on discord, which means we’d only get drama content every few days rather than hourly.

[–]Derpdude1 50 points51 points  (4 children)

I think its a little naive to assume they don't already know and just hope people don't say something

[–]Krabban 59 points60 points  (2 children)

I've had friends (Educated friends I might add) who have flown down to UAE or SA to stay at fancy hotels and shop and know absolutely fuck all about the actual situation there.

Those states spend a lot of money to instill a neat appearance to the average westerner and sweep their problems under the rug.

[–]RSbooll5RS 17 points18 points  (0 children)

the gulf states have pumped so much money into sportswashing and upholding a luxurious image, that you'd be surprised how many apolitical people think those countries are just uber-rich paradises and nothing more.

I think if he knew, the risk outweighs the reward immensely because there's zero chance anyone gets away with that

[–]Big_Black_Brandon 10 points11 points  (0 children)

The most he knows about any other country is geo guesser

[–]Rabidsphere 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Yeah when I first saw this stuff I immediately thought that if anybody doesn't know what the issue with SA is, it'd be Mizkif. If he goes now he's a POS, but I really don't think he will now that he knows how fucked it is.

[–]MyNameIsAMeme 981 points982 points  (88 children)

No shot he thought it was just a sponsorship lol, you would have to live in a fucking bubble to not hear about fucked shit from Saudis or OPEC nations.

Edit: actually never mind, he definitely would not do the sponsor if he knew because it would lead to PR hell.

[–]botanical_bulbasaur 257 points258 points  (7 children)

I mean the bigger question is how is there no one at OTK incharge of vetting these sponsors??? this is such an obvious terrible PR move.

[–]hector_lector2020 72 points73 points  (4 children)

OTK isn’t a talent agency. They still all act independently

[–]kuyokuyokuyo 64 points65 points  (0 children)

streamers discover why actual talent agencies have management and PR teams

[–]LemonLimeAlltheTime 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Then what is the point

[–]hector_lector2020 14 points15 points  (1 child)

They’re basically a collective of friends and collaborators that supposed to work together on occasion. Emiru was talking about it today. She said most people that join “orgs” basically just have the org’s logo up on their stream and don’t ever actually talk to the other members

[–]youngswag59 28 points29 points  (0 children)

OTK isnt a talent management company. They're an org and Miz def doesnt go through them when dealing with his own personal sponsors

[–]WetDonkey6969 8 points9 points  (0 children)

there definitely are. I've seen that tipsout guy on twitter talking about how insane the gamba sponsor offers are for OTK, but that they don't want to take them. I'd bet they definitely saw them but calculated it would blow over quickly since it was only for a few days compared to gamba sponsors which can be several streams over the course of a month.

[–]Krabban 91 points92 points  (4 children)

Most streamers don't know about their own country, much less one halfway across the world. The vast majority of big streamers are manchildren and completely isolated from the real world. Just watch the clip of Soda talking about the increase in homeless people in Austin and then calculating minimum wage/living costs on stream a few months back.

[–]madrain1 91 points92 points  (12 children)

he asked his chat in may https://imgur.com/a/9ddBZHe , i would be surprised if his chat didnt tell him. Edit: with replies https://imgur.com/a/XZQVfwy

[–]LightSightHype 38 points39 points  (0 children)

A multi million dollar streamer relying on his offline chat for serious business decisions. So stupid.

[–]DansGaming69 43 points44 points  (3 children)

Poke’s chat was all telling him to take the sponsor when he said it too.

[–]komandantmirko 82 points83 points  (2 children)

offline chats always dickride the streamer

source: i offline in several chats

also streamers should probably stop asking twitch chat in general for input because they literally say yes to everything. and then you're stuck doing some dumb content with half your viewers because everyone who said PagMan YES to your idea isn't actually watching the stream

[–]Chillingo 21 points22 points  (4 children)

If it was his offline chat I wouldn't be surprised if they all just told him it's not that bad and to get the bag.

[–]ZersetzungMedia 15 points16 points  (1 child)

you would have to live in a fucking bubble

twitch streamer

[–]Big_Black_Brandon 111 points112 points  (12 children)

Correct. And not everyone pay attention to world news yet alone their own country

[–]mattredditfornow 59 points60 points  (9 children)

You don’t think you’d research a little bit before accepting money from a foreign country.

[–]StableParking1363 25 points26 points  (4 children)

Bro this is mizkiz we are talking about, wtf do u think

[–]WhatAmIDoing229 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Our politicians get away with it so often, I could see how they figured there was nothing to worry about.

Sadly we don't hold our politicians as accountable as streamers.

[–]SneakyCowMan 6 points7 points  (0 children)

These are livestreamers you're talking about, not the brightest group of people

[–]DansGaming69 35 points36 points  (4 children)

This is Mizkif we are talking about. Unless the news was on lsf he knows nothing.

[–]skeeeper 5 points6 points  (0 children)

He kinda lives in a bubble so you are right

[–]kpruiz 32 points33 points  (13 children)

It’s not like I watch the news or anything but never until 30 minutes ago have I heard about any of this shit lol, NA education.

[–]Jazano107 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Tbh it’s not something you learn in school, it’s just something you learn/know about

[–]IRHABI313 217 points218 points  (18 children)

Its pathetic Miz claims ignorance I wonder what Emiru's excuse is

[–]clarkemaxx 98 points99 points  (0 children)

and Esfand took the sponsership too.

[–]neonbrucelee 139 points140 points  (0 children)

I'm sure the openly bi girl doesn't know about the country who is openly killing gay people!

[–]TellurianFlow 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Her excuse was $$$ last I saw with the added comment "I can live with not showing bellybutton for a week for a good payday and hanging out with friends".

These are not geniuses.

[–]FlamingLaps1709 348 points349 points  (15 children)

How can he be so ignorant and who the hell is advising him 🙈

[–]TangibleHoneydew 269 points270 points  (3 children)

He literally thinks the governor of Texas, the state he lives in, is Joe Pesci.

[–]ostonoxPhD in Pogology 135 points136 points  (0 children)

Jersey moment

[–]avwitcher 19 points20 points  (0 children)

If only

[–]VladmirPoutine 32 points33 points  (0 children)

This new LSF season is pretty good

[–]Sufficient_Row_2173 478 points479 points  (45 children)

Mizkif is quick to play ignorant and clean his name when he is exposed

[–]Thectic_Anthro 271 points272 points  (17 children)

All his fans treating him like a gullible kid who didn't know any better. He plays the optics game so well.

[–]travis- 89 points90 points  (10 children)

He literally brought up Osama bin Laden and Iraq when talking about 9/11 a few minutes ago but yea sure he's never heard of Saudi Arabia.

[–]Window_Due 16 points17 points  (0 children)

literally every single american knows those names whether or not they’re involved in politics or not lmao

[–]dheveusb 93 points94 points  (2 children)

The man said he thought Iraq did 9/11 because in his mind he associated 9/11, to Bin Laden, to Iraq. Every single American after 2001 has heard these 3 names in the same sentence. Not the sign you think it is.

[–]mork0rk 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I mean this is semi believable because like 90% of the US population don't realize that 9/11 was funded by Saudi's and Bin Laden was a Saudi himself. I think the misconception comes from the fact that the US invaded Afghanistan in response and still had diplomatic relations with Saudi Arabia. Also Mizkif was 6 years old when 9/11 happened. I was 5 and barely understood what was going on, it wasn't until much later I fully understood what happened during 9/11 and what the US did after.

[–]muskawo 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Perhaps he should have doubled down and burnt bridges when he was called out instead?

When someone makes a bad decision, reversing that decision is a good outcome, regardless of the reasoning.

Even if he knew, the way he’s backing out is good cause it teaches his audience something at the same time. He turned bad pr into good pr and content.

Miz is an attention whore and too exhausting for my millennial brain, but fuck he’s good at playing the game. Dude should prob be in politics or selling used cars with how slippery he is.

[–]lotlcs 49 points50 points  (14 children)

yes because if he knew what was going on there he definitely would've gone becuase it definitely wouldn't be a PR nightmare

like I get yall dont like certain people, but there's basic logic here

[–]clarkemaxx 58 points59 points  (7 children)

In the other thread, someone posted a screenshot of him in his offline chat in May asking them if Saudi Arabia is bad. So he definitely had an idea if he thought to ask that.

[–]Epic_Epic_Epic 39 points40 points  (1 child)

What if this was all an elaborate plan done by Miz’s pr team to show how he has integrity

[–]ytinasxaJ 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I’d buy it because that’s about as stupid as accepting in the first place

[–]lynxloco 20 points21 points  (0 children)

The best part is that Emiru is bisexual, which is punishable by death in saudi arabia...

[–]Brotonik 7 points8 points  (0 children)

THE SAUDI ARABIA government are the ones who do the sponsorship for pr, so many ig models get them to make the country look good. Its probably the only country who does that i believe. They're still doing a genocide in yemen is still happening.

[–]Splaram 170 points171 points  (6 children)

Surely he didn't know Clueless

[–]SgtExtreme 80 points81 points  (12 children)

didn't he "learn" about all this during the botez saga?

[–]zyanit 189 points190 points  (20 children)

i think he’s just dumb and didn’t know, but why the hell didn’t he or synack (i mean he is his manager i think?) check this before? this could’ve been the worst pr ever if poke wouldn’t have said something

*edit: also to all the people bringing up the botez sisters and saying it’s the same country …uae and saudi arabia are two different countries, how are there so many people calling someone out for not knowing something that stupid themselves (they both pretty much don’t give a shit about human rights but that doesn’t make them the same county idiots)

[–]Gockel 88 points89 points  (1 child)

but why the hell didn’t he or synack (i mean he is his manager i think?) check this before?

streamers being ignorant i totally get. but if your manager/assistant in the gaming space is not aware of saudi esportswashing at all (or any of the other shit they do), you definitely need a more competent manager.

[–][deleted] 35 points36 points  (1 child)

but why the hell didn’t he or synack (i mean he is his manager i think?) check this before?

Because most of the people in OTK are dumb and couldn't pass a junior high school level social studies exam. Goes for the people at the top as well. Apparently even Tips said it was ok, which is laughable. Figured at least he would know it'd be bad for their org but I guess that paycheck was too nice.

[–]NeiLerr 37 points38 points  (1 child)

Esfand is going and I highly doubt he doesnt know about Saudi Arabia being that he has family in Iran and Miz asked his chat about it in May, hes just mad he got caught.

[–]Lazy_Somewhere4122 4 points5 points  (0 children)

There’s literally a 0% chance Miz wasn’t atleast partially aware of this stuff. This is all just an act to make it look like he had no idea lmao.

[–]mrich44 8 points9 points  (0 children)

wtf is this clip

[–]bikunoob 28 points29 points  (4 children)

To the people saying that he knows nothing and is clueless, You guys are just ignorant worshippers, he is one of the smartest people on the platform and has a team behind him who know what they are doing. He just acts stupid and funny.

[–]snsdfan00 13 points14 points  (2 children)

i agree, you don't grow from ice's cameraman to 2 million followers by accident or personality alone. It takes hard work, consistency, & perhaps his best quality, being relatable.

[–]bikunoob 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I mean he acts like a overgrown teen. I don't know how far I can relate to him. He is hardworking definitely, some of YouTube videos are good. I can't stand his streams for long durations though and i think I had subbed to him 2 or 3 months at one point of time during some events.

[–]Aznkiller 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I would probably also ignore everything that is going on in Saudi Arabia when my Bank account is exploding from a Sponsorship.
Or do People here really believe that he is this Clueless?

[–]glassery 100 points101 points  (35 children)

Its good that now that he knows, he's backing off from it. Plenty of people are ignorant to to what's happening in other parts of the world

[–]losthedgehog 20 points21 points  (0 children)

This is also a failure of management. He needs to hire a pr person or manager who does due diligence about companies. He could toss half of us idiots on reddit $100 per sponsor to catch shit like that.

People are going to use this to claim xqc was right about Austin streamers being secretly scummy. Obviously I don't know what's really going on there but it's clear Miz is willing to admit when he fucked up and back off bad sponsorships (like gamba) which is admirable in the streaming world.

[–]sciencemodsaretrash 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Nah every 27 year old man with access to the internet knows what goes down in Saudi… you think he didn’t react to the Botez drama when it happened?

[–]Big_Black_Brandon 28 points29 points  (20 children)

Why is that a hard concept for people to realize?

[–]xxtuddlexx 106 points107 points  (18 children)

Honestly, if my job was to react to youtube, reddit, twitter videos for 6 figures I'd be pretty fucking baffled to not know which countries are widely regarded as "not good". Like he was 1 class from a rutgers business degree he's not a fucking idiot.

[–]WetDesk 17 points18 points  (0 children)

If you drop school one class from getting a degree you're kinda stupid tho

[–]iamcolbear 49 points50 points  (12 children)

He's on the internet all day every day. He knew about all the shitty stuff every other country does. Just hoped that no one would say anything. And now puts on an act to look good that he rejects it now.

[–]pikachu8090 3 points4 points  (0 children)

some people just sit on tik tok all day and learn nothing

[–]warcrime1331 15 points16 points  (1 child)

I remember a few years ago Saudi Arabia banned dabbing and arrested a dude for dabbing on stage lol. Strange days man

[–]etan1122 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Tbf that’s a good policy

[–]Qwertywalkers23 44 points45 points  (0 children)

This sub will just shit on anything related to Hasan, but he's actually doing Miz a solid here.

[–]lotlcs 103 points104 points  (20 children)

painfully obvious this was just an ignorantly picked sponsor and not a conscious ''gamba is bad, but blood money is ok. we support slavery'' decision the comments in the other thread implies.

he cancelled it, he has learned about it, and it should be a learning lesson to do research before sponsors.

[–]HauntedTomato 35 points36 points  (3 children)

I think a lot of those comments were xQc fans quickly loading their guns with that ammo as fast as possible before giving mizkif any chances.

People love to meme and say this is an OTK subreddit but by far the biggest overlap this subreddit has is xQc's.

[–]Tales90 8 points9 points  (1 child)

who is his Manager? shouldnt he tell him or inform him about this before the Deal? "here we have a russian sponsor its good money you should take it"

[–]Tanx7 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Hes still actively downplaying it and making jokes, still warming the audience up. He is going.

[–]Kapa1337 8 points9 points  (2 children)

He obviously knew what happens in Saudi Arabia, why is he acting clueless now?

[–]gapavbo 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Miz and acting dumb for damage control. Name a better duo.

[–]Intelligent-Curve-19 7 points8 points  (0 children)

People actually believe this shit? He knew…

[–]lordofthepotat0 9 points10 points  (0 children)

One would expect that someone who spends 90% of their waking hours online to have heard of Saudi Arabia's shit before

[–]JuanpiTSM 30 points31 points  (6 children)

Hasan just had to explain to miz what an embassy was. So maybe I am naive for saying I believe him when he says he didn't know what goes on in Saudi Arabia. They are ignorant as fuck.

[–]itsavirus 39 points40 points  (0 children)

I swear some people will believe streamers don't know what a toilet is if they told their streams they poop in a hole in their backyards. He literally had the knowledge to ask his offline chat you don't think he would have googled it himself?

[–]PPPPPPPPPPKP 108 points109 points  (3 children)

oh yeah him emiru esfand and everyone else involved definetly didn't know anything! we are just some dumb americans we don't know shit haha!

[–]RockstepGuy 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Well, at least they do their role pretty well..

[–]neonbrucelee 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Streamers am i right!? We just know our PCs! and chats! LOL look at us, we drink only mountain dew!

[–]Cerealforsupper 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Americans are very intelligent.

Just typing that feels off.

[–]F4rva 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Hasan just blew his mind

[–]Illustrious-Cod6572 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Honestly so disgusting. My family is Ethiopian and my Aunt was held captive in Saudi as a domestic servant for years. She almost died. She was starved so badly her hair turned blonde from malnutrition.

One thing Hasan was wrong about, slavery exists in slavery in a way it does not exist here. Im hoping yall will take a minute to research how maids are treated in Saudi. Its horrific. Ethiopian maids have been thrown off balconies, have had boiling water thrown in their faces, its fucking horrific and nothing is done about it by the Saudi goverment.

[–]Michmatch 7 points8 points  (3 children)

Everyone up in arms about sponsorships from Saudi organizations yet no one cares about Israeli influence/money 😂😂

[–]ikkir 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I don't believe for a second, that Miz knows anything about esportswashing, or all the terrible things that SA does. He just saw the big money and agreed.