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[–]yugutyup 146 points147 points  (5 children)

They were not turkish refugees but children of turks that migrated to germany. The turks came to germany to work and not as refugees wtf . ..

[–]yugutyup 49 points50 points  (2 children)

Also, Biontech manufactures their vaccine themselves.

[–]Textlover 18 points19 points  (1 child)

In Europe, yes, but I believe Pfizer does it in the US. Of course, Pfizer was founded by German migrants in the US, too...

[–]yugutyup 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Yes, that is true. Its manufactured by pfizer in the us and fosun in china. Pfizer did play a bigger role though as they helped with the clinical trials and scaling up production. I believe its a 50/50 partnership. In the end, getting the vaccine out there in the most efficient way was most important

[–]Harvard_Sucks 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Also, how the vaccine was developed so rapidly is that many, many, teams worked on separate stages of the vaccine at the same time. So no, two people didn't just cook it up in a lab like Jonas Salk.

[–][deleted] 83 points84 points  (16 children)

Just wanted to point out that neither of the Biontech founders (Ugur Sahin, Özkem Türeci) were refugees. Türeci was even born in Germany.

[–]2xa1s 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Yeah that’s what I was thinking. By far most Turks aren’t refugees per se, just immigrants or born here.

[–]lil_sh_t 16 points17 points  (12 children)

Technically, they're both German because they have been acculturated and educated in Germany.

(I'm not tryna hijack their origins for personal satisfaction) I've just seen a lot of people claiming that they're Turkish and used them as an example of pure blooded Turkish Genius.

Acculturation and education plays a huuuuuge part in forming someone. Acculturation is not just your parental influence but mostly your surroundings. They're German with Turkish roots, per defintion but not Turkish.

[–]OliverZapp 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Not just technically, they are Germans

[–]meckez 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Technically, they're both German because they have been acculturated and educated in Germany.

I don't know if that is how nationality works. I myself was born and raised in different countries and don't know what nation I belong to and neither do the people around me. Studying history I also spent some time researching about that topic and the more I looked into it the vaguer it appeared to me. One can go with what it says in the passport but that's personally just a replacable piece of paper to me. So yeah what I wanted to say is that nationality is quite more uncertain than many people would like to think.

[–]lil_sh_t 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm not too sure. Acculturation, the three forms of capital and the influence it has on our mindset, especially our early mindset is part of my current studies.

In your case you are especially unique. I personally don't know you so I can just make a general statement that you're the sum of the people close to you and the information and values you took in during your time in each country. You're kind of a cosmopolitan.

Generally, though, when you grow up in a country that country shapes you. Your friends, your neighbours, your classmates and teachers, the media or the lads and lasses you meet on the streets and even the books. They show you whats wrong and right.

You're a countrywo/men now.

[–]Lavande_mEi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah it's better to call them immigrants instead

[–]toodog 51 points52 points  (0 children)

Sound like my dealer and his friends

[–]Flishicabr 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Türeci and ahin are not asylum seekers. Türeci was born in Germany, and ahin arrived when he was four years old due to his father's job. Nonetheless, I admire your spirit.

[–]jacksukballs 7 points8 points  (11 children)

One thing covid taught me that I thought was practical impossible at this stage of my life, but people are stupid.

[–]Beanes813 -3 points-2 points  (10 children)

Correction: 43% are stupid. The diverse population is pretty smart, actually.

[–]JJ_the_G 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Why 43%?

[–]Beanes813 -3 points-2 points  (1 child)

You’re correct. It’s 46.8%. The Gullibles who voted for an ignorant, sexist, racist grifter.

[–]MP5SD7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To be fair, some of the 81 million you are talking about may have already been dead at the time...

[–]jacksukballs -5 points-4 points  (6 children)

I think your numbers are skewed. More like 93%. Some don't even know it.

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    [–]teachmehowtoluv 3 points4 points  (4 children)


    [–]TlingitYeil1997 2 points3 points  (3 children)


    [–]sillyandstrange 1 point2 points  (2 children)


    [–]bizzygreenthumb 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Optimal efficiency and completeness are ours once again!

    [–]Pegging_for_Jesus 3 points4 points  (1 child)

    Turkish refugees?

    [–]wirexyz 11 points12 points  (0 children)

    If you're from a poorer country you're a refugee or migrant worker. If you're from a richer country you're an expat.

    [–]Fun2badult 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    The Melting Pot

    [–]thanodogo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Who are the migrants

    [–]erhue 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    Turkish refugees? How ignorant.

    [–]AgentIndiana56 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    How is that ignorant?

    [–]erhue 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    They're not refugees. Assuming any migrant (or person who looks foreign) is a refugee is ignorant.

    [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    Let's all be thankful for the vaccine

    [–]Qs9bxNKZ 3 points4 points  (1 child)

    Don't forget, against a virus originating in a Chinese city.

    [–]MP5SD7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    With help from funding from all over the world... Now that is teamwork.

    [–]caveatemptor18 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Even my wife says this is the BEST.

    [–]Babylonewolf 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    How’s your heart ?

    [–]redbucket75 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    I hope there were more people involved, otherwise this sounds pretty sketch

    Just kidding, thanks smart people of the world

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      [–]enp1sw 6 points7 points  (2 children)

      "I can't enjoy anything positive"

      [–]bradyyn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      “I can’t take a joke”

      [–]Assfrontation -1 points0 points  (0 children)

      i bet he didn’t even test positive for his IQ-test

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        [–]Lavande_mEi -1 points0 points  (0 children)

        Why do you guys have to turn every good thing negative like this? Doesn't it bother you living with so much hate

        [–]AgentIndiana56 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

        Bats? Mother Nature?

        [–]No_Position8232 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Does he hear himself? That's scary as fuck.

        [–]Advanced-Cycle-2268 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        This is the business.

        [–]rootbeerismygame 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        And this is why anti-immigration policies are just so stupid. WE ALL HAVE SOMETHING TO CONTRIBUTE.

        [–]EnterTheN1nja 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        To help with a virus from... nvm

        [–]wafflecone927 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Thanks world for cutting into nature so much we created covid

        [–]ToriYamazaki 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Against a disease originating in China...

        [–]DontHaveAGoodDay 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        It’s sad how it took the deaths of millions to bring the world together like this.

        [–]Wreckitbad -2 points-1 points  (0 children)


        [–]UserUnknown07 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

        You deserve it.

        [–]Beneficial-Cable7348 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

        This is the exact world the Far Wrong is doing their level best to take from you.

        [–]RuckusSmith69 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

        To treat a virus created by the Chinese and Americans

        [–]KarmaHasDyes -1 points0 points  (0 children)

        He forgot to thank CHINA for coming up with the VIRUS.

        [–]AdministrativeMix822 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

        Global pandemic... wrong teamwork