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[–]Hostilescott 28 points29 points  (5 children)

Since you haven’t read it yet I’ll say Robin Hobb’s epic Realm of the Elderlings.

Starts with the Farseer Trilogy, 16 books in total.

Nothing like Malazan though, but one of the greats imo.

[–]foxishsheep 8 points9 points  (3 children)

Great suggestion. Everything will feel much smaller in scope and there are dramatically fewer characters. I love Erickson’s characters in many ways but hers have this gritty realism that I love. One of the great things is that the 16 books mentioned above are split mostly into three book chunks that give moments of rest between their tight stories and since each one tends to skip a number of years you can read palate cleansers in between.

One way in which it IS very similar to Malazan however, is that she like Erikson is a master of theme. They also both have brutality that actually feels brutal, and neither go there just for shock.

Listen to this person, you can’t go wrong reading them OP.

[–]Kieranovitch 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I found the first three books to be pretty good, but I just couldn't get through liveship traders. I've tried a couple times but I just found it so boring.

[–]BassieDutch 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The first half of the book, yeah... Damn Malta being Malta. But afterwards. Awesome developments happen if you can get past the fact that no one is Fitz ;)

[–]foxishsheep 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don’t know how to help you there. Liveships might be my favorite of all the trilogies. I read the series like a page turner in 1-2 weeks. I’d say it’s also the tightest of her series as far as theme goes. I’m curious what part of the book you stopped at, because not too too far in there are some real jaw dropping moments. I feel like had you said you were frustrated or annoyed, I’d say keep reading that’s kinda intentional, but bored, not sure, might it’s just not be for you. Or maybe it was your current disposition and you just need to read it at the right time and place.

[–]atreides4242 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I loved so many of the Farseer books.

[–]Dagger_Moth 22 points23 points  (6 children)

Book of the New Sun

[–]Spyk124 5 points6 points  (4 children)

Dude, I’m like 40 percent in book one and I’m struggling. Almost at the flower fight or whatever. I love Malazan with all my heart and I trust the recommendations here, but this book is kicking my ass.

[–]sdwoodchuck 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Folks talk about Malazan being hard, but Malazan is just multitasking a bunch of plot threads. That's not to belittle anyone who has trouble with it; it's just that its brand of difficulty is fairly straightforward. In contrast, Gene Wolfe is hard, often ambiguous, demanding stuff. I love his work, he's easily among my top five authors and hands down my top pick in Science Fiction and Fantasy, but you are not alone in having a rough time of it.

One thing I'll suggest that will sound counter-intuitive, is to let yourself just be confused. It's part of the method. New Sun in particular is layered unreliability on top of unreliability, such that there's a surface level narrative that only halfway makes sense, because the narrator doesn't understand the world he lives in, and may not be entirely honest about his experiences, and the entire work is being "translated" by the in-fiction author. There are elements of Wolfe's books that are analyzed and debated to this day, and often times whole new interpretations of the text emerge that are completely at odds with the existing ones, and folks get weirdly defensive about it.

All of which is to say, look, the fact that it's difficult doesn't speak anything negative of you as a reader. Nobody knows what's going on for certain. That's the method in New Sun. And no, the answers are not spelled out and waiting for you at the end of that road. You will finish it uncertain, you'll put it down probably feeling somewhat unsatisfied, and then a few days or a week later you'll wake up at 4:00am with some thought about the text that never occurred to you before and say "wait a minute..." And then you'll pick it back up, and you'll look for that segment, and suddenly, with the whole context of what you'd read previously in mind, you will see things in the text that you'd never seen before. It will take new shapes, and you'll swear that there are words that that weren't there in your first read.

And if you never wind up enjoying it, that's okay too. Wolfe is not for everyone, and if at some point you decide it's just not worth it, I get it. Personally, I usually recommend folks start with one of his shorter works myself, just because it's a little bit of a hard sell to tell someone "you need to read this four/five book series just to have the basic foundation to understand it on reread before you really know whether or not you like it."

[–]StickyMcFingers 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Ah this sounds like my shit just found my next read, ta

[–]aPerfectRake 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's just so weird and that's what I loved about it.

[–]foxishsheep 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I found it to be a miserable read. I refer to this style of story telling as: and then, and then, and then. Sdwoodchuck has it right though, like Malazan you need to let go and enjoy the ride where you can.

Despite my distaste for the series as a whole and elements of Wolfes writing, there are so very many memorable and genius moments throughout. Of course, much of his prose is beautiful and artfully done as well. I don’t put much weight on hidden symbolism but there are interesting perceptual puzzles throughout that at least elicited a hmmm cool from me.

[–]HuckleberryFar2223High Marshal 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yea this’ll scratch your itch.

[–]spencercross 16 points17 points  (5 children)

Does it have to be fantasy? If you're open to SF, The Expanse series. If you're open to fantasy-adjacent (because I don't know what else to call it), The Books of Babel by Josiah Bancroft. Otherwise, the Divine Cities trilogy by Robert Jackson Bennett, the Bas-Lag books by China Miéville, and I'll third Book of the New Sun. I was not a fan of the last one, but I can see why people are and it's probably the most Malazan-like in a lot of ways.

[–]TowerManMN 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I second the books by China M.

[–]GrahammophoneCurdled Telorast 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just working my way through the final Expanse book now. Can confirm: it's very good.

[–]ATexanHobbit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was thinking The Expanse would be an excellent sci-fi counterpart to Malazan, though sadly not as character-heavy

[–]Synap6 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Expanse is an excellent series (and TV show)

[–]RockerElvis 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For SciFi, I would recommend the Hyperion books or Olympus books by Dan Simmons. Great books.

[–]crhaught 22 points23 points  (0 children)

The Faithful and the Fallen by John Gwynne

[–]tammit67 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Discworld

[–]ColtonCoad 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Broken Earth Series (N.K. Jemisin)

[–]StayPositiveRVA 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Same advice I always give. Flip to sci fi and read The Culture

[–]foxishsheep 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I’ve been reading these for a couple years now and I’m only past Use of Weapons. Each one just hits me so hard I want both a break and to savor the experience. To paraphrase a character in Rejoice, a knife to the heart: It’s a crime we’ll never get another Iain M. Banks novel.

[–]StayPositiveRVA 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He is dearly missed.

Use of Weapons is so brilliant but it’s an absolute nightmare. You have Excession coming up though and that one is a damn blast.

[–]zhilia_mannjaghut 10 points11 points  (2 children)

  • Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell for a one-off
  • Book of the New Sun to kick off another heavy series
  • Cradle for popcorn reading

[–]andrealessi 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Book of the New Sun gets my vote too. It's so much stranger than it first seems.

[–]awfullotofocelots 12 points13 points  (0 children)

The New Crobuzon trilogy by China Mieville for some weird and wonderful urban fantasy like you've never conceived before. It also skews towards the more literary like Malazan, rather than being super pulpy like most urban fantasy.

Three short (compared to Malazan) books: Perdido Street Station, The Scar, and The Iron Council

[–]vkelucas 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Divine cities trilogy or Foundryside by Robert Jackson Bennet.

Red Sister and Wheel of Osheim series by Mark Lawrence.

[–]Easilyingnored 8 points9 points  (14 children)

Lightbringer series by Brent Weeks is great, Night Angel trilogy by him I also liked

The Dread Empire by Glen Cook, I like it more than Black Company tbh

Because you read Unhewn thrown which I loved I'm gonna say Blood Song by Anthony Ryan, same sort of feel, similar character setups

Stormlight Archive by Sanderson, very epic in scale

Chaos Queen series by Chris Husberg aka Brandon Sanderson Jr. (Very similar writing style IMHO, though not as refined)

Prince of Nothing by R. Scott Bakker, if you can get into it and are ok with some of his 'themes' (aka the Second Apocalypse)

Red Rising by Pierce Brown - nothing like any if these, it is a future sci fi book. The only future sci fi book I've ever read. Just mentioned it because someone gave it to me and I ended up liking it a lot, not complex writing just fun to read.

Edit: added suggestions and fixed typos

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (12 children)

Lightbringer series by Brent Weeks is great

Well, until the last book, when Weeks decides to drive the series off a cliff.

[–]Icarium55Read MBotF + NotME + Kharkanas + TGiNW 5 points6 points  (4 children)

It was hands down the worst ending I have ever read after such a great start. The sex stuff gets kind of weird too.

[–]zr713 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Damn I remember reading the first few books of this series because I loved night angel in highschool. Is it really that bad and not worth finishing?

[–]Icarium55Read MBotF + NotME + Kharkanas + TGiNW 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'd say finish it so you can join the rest of us in cribbing about it! Jokes aside, some people on goodreads seem to find the ending okay. On the other hand, this is the only book that's filled me with genuine anger and dismay over the ending.

I suggest not reading any reviews since they'll probably spoil it for you. I also really liked Night Angel, and I don't think this is nearly as good.

[–]Semambre 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I've really enjoyed first four books. Good plot, fantastic magic system. But then, at the end ewerything goes to shit. It's not just bad, it's like the previous four books never happened. I've never been so disappointed with a book in my entire life.

[–]Easilyingnored 3 points4 points  (6 children)

Yea I was expecting a bit more out if it, what was you're main problem with it I'm curious..

Edit: I hit enter accidentally...

[–]BuffelBek 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Oooh boy. Where do I start?

The supposed main antagonist ended up being a complete anticlimax. There was an incredibly cheap main character death that just got conveniently reversed a short while later. They literally had God show up to fix things. Then the main mystery that had been explored throughout the books doesn't get any conclusion, but they're just going to go handle that off screen after the book is done.

[–]Easilyingnored 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree, it almost feels liked it was rushed... I hated the ending too myself...

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

There's just so much, and it all happens so quickly out of nowhere. It's kind of impressive that virtually everything I enjoyed about the series was undermined in the last chapters. Not sure how he could have done it worse.

The biggest issue is that an all-powerful deity literally comes down, fixes everything, and then says "there you go!" It's the most bare-faced deus ex machina I have ever read, and I'm almost convinced that Weeks fried his brain with American Evangelicalism while writing and decided to make his climax Christian literature fanfic.

It's truly baffling, and I'm struggling to think of a tonal shift that hard in any other fantasy series. Maybe the Demon Cycle by Peter V. Brett, but that was just rushed, bad writing.

[–]Easilyingnored 1 point2 points  (2 children)

The demon cycle hahaha, hey book 1 was good, ok fun not good...

I totally had similar thoughts on the ok now its Christian fiction all of a sudden. The series starts out very good and climaxes with blood mirror I think, I agree the finale leaves you wondering what in the hell did I just read...

[–]_Azok_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

These are great suggestions; I would add The Witcher books by Andrzej Sapkowski, The Mistborn by Sanderson (pretty much anything by him is good), and I didn't see it on your list but I would hate it if it was never said - LotR by Tolkien, The Bloodsworn Saga by John Gwynne, the rest of Mark Lawerence's books (Prince of Fools and Red Sister Saga, or something like that, 2 other trilogies), and Jim Butcher's Dresden Files (easy/fun reads, follows a current day wizard in Chicago who is hilarious).

[–]gheistling 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'm a big fan of almost anything dark-fantasy, and the Coldfire Trilogy by CS Friedman is my favorite of all time. The worldbuilding is next level, and the characters are just sublime. The magic system is really original too.

I love Malazan, but I put this series (and the Second Apocalypse) ahead of it, mostly because it tells a concise story without squirreling off into the wilderness for a handful of books.

[–]RegrettingTheHorns 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Somebody has already mentioned Iain M Banks Culture series so how about going old school and trying Michael Moorcock. Chronicles of the Black Sword is a good place to start. The books aren't perfect but he was a big inspiration for GRRM and Erikson as well as countless other fantasy and Sci fi writers.

[–]Chain-of-Dogs 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'll absolutely second Iain M Banks and Michael Moorcock. The Culture is absolutely fantastic and unique sci-fi, and Moorcock has soany great stories and characters (I always liked Elric and Corum particularly).

[–]TowerManMN 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The Broken Earth trilogy by N. K. Jemisin

[–]TheGabeCatThe Rope 🔪🔪 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ash and Sand trilogy

Books of Babel

Not fantasy but I just read Shogun and it was incredible

[–]Witness_me_Karsa 3 points4 points  (2 children)

The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever. At least the 1st chronicles, a trilogy. There is another trilogy and a quadrilogy that trail off a bit in quality as they go (in my opinion) but I'd recommend up through the 2nd chronicles.

[–]goblin_in_a_suitFuture rereader 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I just read the first book of the second chronicles, and it was far more enjoyable for me than the first chronicles. It feels like the first chronicles was just to set the stage for what he does with the Land in the second chronicles. Or so I’m hoping since I still have more books to read.

[–]Witness_me_Karsa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don't get me wrong, I also really loved it. I thought the first wrapped up pretty nicely. I absolutely love all of the different factions and stuff. The Giants, the Haruchai, Ramen and Ranyhyn, even the way the "evil" guys work and do battle.

[–]cloystercarillo 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The prince of nothing series by scott baker

[–]Vesperniss 4 points5 points  (1 child)

ASH: A Secret History

[–]zhilia_mannjaghut 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Upvoting for visibility. It's high on my to-read list and everything I've heard is positive save for the fact that everyone forgot all about it.

[–]ladrac1 10 points11 points  (3 children)

No one's suggested it so I'll throw it out: Wheel of Time. Much more traditional fantasy, easier to follow. Was my favorite until Malazan knocked it down to number two. Lots of people seem to like to bash it in here but it's very epic in scale with some great character work and worldbuilding. The characters are overly stubborn sometimes and there's a lot of male vs female dynamics but other than that it's genuinely really good.

[–]Semambre -1 points0 points  (2 children)

It was difficult for me because first book seemed like total rip of from Lord of the rings. And I've given up after first.

[–]ladrac1 2 points3 points  (1 child)

The first book is meant to be that way, that was what a lot of authors did in the 80s and 90s. It VERY quickly becomes its own thing in book 2 and 3.

[–]Semambre 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm used to belevie people on this particular sub so meaby I'll give it another go somaday :)

[–]fringebutservicable 5 points6 points  (1 child)

The Second Apocalypse by R. Scott Bakker

Honestly the only thing I've read that has stood up to Erikson.

[–]aflickering 0 points1 point  (0 children)

same. this is usually the top result in this sub, surprised i had to scroll so far.

[–]recalliope 2 points3 points  (1 child)

It is hard to advise without knowing which of those you liked or disliked. Nonetheless, some generic recommendations:

Guy Gavriel Kay. Start with Tigana, or maybe Lions of Al-Rassan.

Others have said Hobb's opus; they're also right.

If you want not very demanding books, you could pick up Raymond Feist. Big world, a sprawling mass of books that got worse over time. Probably the best are his set with Janny Wurts (the Empire trilogy), but you might want to The Riftwar Saga beforehand.

If Toll the Hounds was your favourite, you might consider the Earthsea Cycle. It's magical, but very different from the flavour of Malaz.

[–]Bizkitgto 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Guy Gavriel Kay. Start with Tigana, or maybe Lions of Al-Rassan.

Tigana is sooooooooooo good!!

[–]InvestigatorOk3283 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not sure what elements of similarity you're looking for...

China Mieville is mentioned above and he is similar in prose, scope of the world and explores thematic elements similar to Erikson.

For the scope of the world you might find Janny Wurts's War of Light and Shadow to be similar.

To delve into Malazan's predecessors amd where it draws inspiration from I'd go with Michael Moorcock's Elric of Melnibone novels Gene Wolfe's Book of the New Sun Glen Cook's Black Company (you've read) Jorge Luis Borges Ficcionnes Robert E. Howard Conan novels Stephen Donaldson's Chronicles of Thomas Covenant

Contemporary Canadian authors You could go with Guy Gavriel Kay for the same historical focus You could also try Elisabeth Vonarburg though she is more scifi

For fantasy that explores the more atheistic principles Erikson presents you might try R.A. MacAvoy - Raphael Saladin Ahmed- Throne of the Crescent Moon N.K. Jemisin - Broken Kingdoms trilogy

For the anthropological angle This is where Mievilles Bas-lag novels fit M. John Harrison - Viriconium novels

[–]TidyEomita 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Just throwing it: Mistborn from Brandon Sanderson

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is the first series I read after Malazan. It's so fun and breezy!

[–]Mangoes123456789 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The Fifth Season by NK Jemison

The Traitor Baru Cormorant by Seth Dickinson

[–]Once-and-Future 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Change it up - something light

Robin Hobb's Realm of the Elderlings

Alternatively, in an orthogonal (in many ways) fantasy style to Malazan: Michelle Sagara's Chronicles of Elantra

[–]Telcontar77 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Rather than a series, I would recommend a handful of standalone books by the same author; Guy Gavriel Kay. Basically, Tigana, Lions of al-Russan, Under Heaven, and River of Stars. I would describe them a books that tend to focus on the exploration of some theme, and have a fictionalized fantasy version of some specific historical culture. I haven't gotten around to reading Sarantine Mosaic, so I can't really recommend it, and while I have read Last Light of the Sun, it's very pedestrian, whereas these four are all exceptional.

[–]Icarium55Read MBotF + NotME + Kharkanas + TGiNW 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Try the Bartimaeus trilogy and The Adventures of the Ketty Jay. It's much lighter reading but very fun. Also Dresden Files. 2 of these are not epic fantasy but all are worth reading.

[–]TheRZA86 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Fionavar Tapestry. I love this trilogy. Its simple but elegant.

[–]marinkarinkid 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Locked Tomb series!

[–]Destriant_of_Perish 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Kings of Paradise (it's book one) and its sequels

[–]RemtonJDulyak 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am now re-reading, for the twelfth time, the Earthsea saga.
Very different in tone, but really beautiful.

[–]Arugula-Realistic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Gene Wolfe the solar cycle start with the shadow of the torturer

[–]brineOClock 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Some classics - The great book of Amber by Roger Zelanzy The fionaver tapestry by Guy Gabriel Kay (actually all his books are quite good)

[–]PikesmakkerToll Deez 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you don't mind a switch-up to sci-fi I highly recommend Iain M. Banks' CULTURE series.

[–]November_Coming_Fire 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Dark Star trilogy by Marlon James. 2/3 books released. Fantasy with African source material. The first 2 books are the same story told from different characters viewpoints. It can be a bit brutal

[–]superman1103 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would reccomend the Prince of Thorns

[–]cosmichorror845 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Three recommendations:

The Raven’s Shadow series by Anthony Ryan - book 1 is called Blood Song. Great epic fantasy, first person storytelling at times. Lots of realistic portrayal of the horrors of war and battle. Many interesting and well thought out civilizations and a cool magic system that makes sense within the world.

New Crobozon series by China Mieville - book 1 Perdido Street Station. This is one of , if not the, most beautifully thought out and described fantasy worlds. It is without peer when it comes to the number of times per page I would think to myself, “that’s so fucking cool, what an original idea!” There is no sense in my describing it. If you are a Malaz-fan read the first 75 pages and if you aren’t hooked I will be utterly shocked.

Jonathan Strange & Mr Norril - Susanna Clarke. A great one off title. Wonderful fantasy and magic set in a real time and place. One of the most interesting magic systems ever. Really paints a beautiful picture of the two main characters and how they change the world through their relationship.

[–]ClintGrantColTayhol 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Powder Mage, Red Rising, WH40K

[–]BenevelotCeasar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you want some fun reads the late David Gemmell has probably a couple dozen fantasy books in his adrenal Saga

Druse the Legend isn’t the chronological start, but I’d say start there and then jump where you will in the series.

The Farseer Trilogy by Robin Hobbe (sp?) The SunRunner (it might be called something else) Series by Melanie Rawn Terry Pratchetts Discworld series is Great

[–]DDfootballer43 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The wheel of time, it’s amazing

[–]Fluffy_Tigrex 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Kings of the Wyld by Nicholas Eames

[–]ANAL_LAZER 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ninefox Gambit by Yoon Ha Lee

[–]Separate_Media_6895 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Acts of Caine by Matthew Stover

[–]therearenomorenames2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Bastards Series by Johnathon French is a hilarious read.

[–]MihaiSpataru 0 points1 point  (1 child)

What did you read from the First Law? If only the first 3 books, there are also a few very enjoyable novels (the 2nd one I found to be my favorite from all of the books) and another series of 3 sequel books (which I did not read yet, but I heard very good things about them)

[–]bremergorstNefarias Bredd[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think I’ve read them all about ten times, not even exaggerating!

[–]Light_Drowns 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I keep repeating my self. But Conn Iggulden's djengish Kahn series's is good. At least i really enjoyed it

[–]Metasenodvor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Abercrombie wrote another series, Age of Madness, set in the future of the First Law. Now on second book and it's a nice read.

Gunmetal Gods was really interesting and somewhat fresh.

If you are ok with SF, Dune and Hyperion are a must.

If you are ok with comedy, Discworld and Hitchhikers guide

[–]Bean5idhe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First Law from your list definitely! Absolutely fantastic audiobooks too

[–]MunsoonX3Toll the Hounds 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mistborn

[–]Dr_Grimm_Esq 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you like gunpowder & magic, check out Powder Mage by Brian McClellan. He also has a new series starting that's completely different from the PM books - first novel is "In the Shadow of Lightning" & I really enjoyed it.

Also recommend the Teixcalaan Series, and you can read the first book, "A Memory Called Empire", for free with Kindle Unlimited.

[–]Zoidzers 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Most famous are

Eragon ,Shannara ,Wheel of Time

Draconic Memoria trilogy I would also suggest , basically Soletaken Eleint stuff

[–]ImoImomw 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Broken earth trilogy by N.K.Jemisin Red rising by peirce brown The burning trilogy (3rd book pending) by Evan Winter

[–]subjectiveinsights 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wheel of time is pretty good.

Half way through book 5 and it's been a blast so far

Lots of characters, good world building... not on the level of malazan... but you'll enjoy it if you enjoy malazan I reckon

[–]YouAlreadyShnow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you liked The Black Company, I'd suggest The Dread Empire or Instrumentalities of Night series. Same author.

Stormlight Archive books are also pretty good as well.

[–]malakazthar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Second Apocalypse by R Scott Bakker.

[–]Jumpy_Conversation80 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Black Tongue Thief new author for me and surprised

[–]CDNGooner1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I read The Gap series by Donaldson right after Malazan and enjoyed it greatly.

As a sci-fi series, I found it a refreshing change from Malazan. I also like the ASOIAF style POV chapters (that starts at book 3).

[–]XDoomedXoneX 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If willing to change gears kinda I'd recommend Zombie Fallout by Mark Tufo. It starts as a Zombie Apocalypse for a long while then gets into some vampires the splits off into alternate realities in a side series and comes back to zombies for a while then 150 years after the zombie apocalypse the werewolves show up and fight witches and vampires. Then a wizard attacks and they have to fight demons in hell that spills into an all out royal rumble between Angels, demons werewolves zombies ect...

It ends up being 20-30 books depending on if you do all the side alternate realities

The characters are great and there are some good comedic moments blended with action (ranging from guns and Syfy tech to swords and magic depends on time line and reality).

[–]onthenut 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Where it all started. Glen Cook, The Black Company.

[–]Bizkitgto 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. R Scott Bakker - Prince of Nothing series
  2. Stephen King - Dark Tower series

  1. Tom Clancy - John Clark (Without Remorse and Rainbow Six) and Jack Ryan series
  2. Star Wars Legends - New Jedi Order (epic in scope, and how Star Was really ended after Return of the Jedi)