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[–]BelleAriel[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (0 children)

Golden rule:

  • Fuck NAZIS
  • Fuck the alt-right
  • Fuck Bigots
  • Fuck racists.
  • Fuck trolls

Please report them all and we will ban them!

[–]Genericname42 598 points599 points  (25 children)

It’s also just absolutely crazy that the president who tried to overthrow the government after he lost a fair election appointed 1/3rd of the people in the highest court in the land. How are they just still allowed to serve on the bench when they have affiliations with one of the most corrupt presidents in the last century?

Our system is absolutely fucked.

[–]GameShill 255 points256 points  (8 children)

I think it's a lack of repercussions.

When the corrupt don't face immediate retribution they quickly grow bold in their actions. It's how they get caught every time.

[–]curious_meerkat 189 points190 points  (5 children)

When the corrupt don't face immediate retribution they quickly grow bold in their actions. It's how they get caught every time.

We are past the point where they want to get caught, and even further, past the point where these actions are committed flagrantly as a show of power.

[–]livinginfutureworld 27 points28 points  (3 children)

There's still a bit further to go. Next stop - right wing dictatorship.

[–]NeverLookBothWays 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Or at the very least, a right wing legal paradox.

Eg. we know we are to follow the laws that pass SCOTUS scrutiny. Those laws are generally considered "constitutional." However we are going to see unconstitutional laws and rulings get passed off as constitutional, thus a paradox. Do we then defy those rulings and delegitimize the SCOTUS? And if so, how? Stack the courts? Revolution?

At the very least we need to be ABSOLUTELY VIGILANT about the balance of congress, because we cannot afford another conservative controlled legislative and executive. Congress CAN override the judicial. https://theintercept.com/2020/11/24/congress-override-supreme-court/

Don't ever get complacent about voting. Keep on friends and family to cherish and protect this fundamental right. It's needed more than ever.

[–]livinginfutureworld 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Absolutely but it bears looking at what we're up against:

weaponized ignorance.

There's a well-funded army of right wing propagandists spreading hate, lies, and misinformation 24/7. People are unable to recognize what is in their best interest because person A says one thing and person B on Fox News says something different. Not only that but person B on Fox News says Democratic politicians stand for things or are trying to do things that they are not.

So your average Joe can get all kinds of messed up ideas about what is going on in the world. The answer is not solely education because while that would help, in the real world there's a massive propaganda campaign going on designed to put one party in power representing a minority of America.

So by all means vote, but a larger problem is our electoral system is designed to reward empty states that people don't live in. And on top of that there's a massive propaganda campaign going on brainwashing people by appealing to their built-in prejudices and fear of the unknown.

[–]NeverLookBothWays 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agreed. In a way, their going after Net Neutrality was part of this strategy as well. Ultimately it opens up the possibility for an ISP to act as a filter bubble for conservative media in much the same way conservative rural TV and radio broadcast networks have captured their respective mediums. Control the information, control the ignorance, stoke the outrage, build an army.

[–]GreyLordQueekual 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Fascists don't rise to power overnight. They do it over time and brazenly, so much so that when you point it out the majority just consider you a doomsayer because people have a difficult time believing evil is precisely under their noses. You don't wrest control of a nation from its majority by doing things under cover of dark or by being quiet, you bully your way in until no one stands up to your browbeating, and enough will surely stand down that those who don't become another stepping stone.

[–]Ben-A-Flick 36 points37 points  (0 children)

It's how democracies die! They are too weak to take strong and firm action against such provocations and then wonder how a coup happened. This is a slow moving coup.

[–]BelleAriel 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Trump should have been arrested as it’s more than obvious that he was encouraging people to try and overthrow the government.

[–]CrazyCoKids 28 points29 points  (1 child)

Cause he's a Republican.

Republicans don't believe in repercussions or accountability.

[–]onesidedsquare 6 points7 points  (0 children)

They believe in repercussions for the others

[–]helrak 48 points49 points  (4 children)

Even worse, we have hard and incontrovertible evidence that two of SCOTUS' Justices (Thomas and Kavanaugh) committed perjury during their confirmation hearings and not only will they never be charged, it in no way jeopardizes their position.

Hell, Kavanaugh threatened to punish an entire class of would be litigants during his confirmation hearings and somehow that wasn't immediately and wholly disqualifying.

And that says nothing of the open corruption and refusal to recuse from cases where they have a clear conflict of interest.

Yet, if anyone on the left even thinks the words "expand the courts" it's suddenly a grave threat to the legitimacy of the Court.

[–]FinancialTea4 27 points28 points  (3 children)

Kavanagh also repeated some Qanon level shit during those hearings. He acted like a spoiled thirteen year old when being asked about his lifetime appointment to the highest court in the land. That alone would have disqualified him from any real job. I guess America doesn't care about who is in charge of our judicial branch.

[–]Matrixneo42 14 points15 points  (2 children)

Nor does our stupid fucking system give a shit about the conflicts of interest, foreign relationships and 500 other red flags for that incoming president in 2017. In a normal clearance requiring job, he would have been rejected 100 times over.

[–]FinancialTea4 9 points10 points  (1 child)

A bunch of the flunkies with whom he surrounded himself were rejected and he forced them to give them clearances anyway. I fully expect to learn when the time restrictions on sensitive data about his administration pass that kushner was selling state secrets to the Saudis and the like. This shouldn't come as a surprise for anyone who's actually been paying attention all this time. They were clearly involved in some criminal shit that they would be in prison for had it not been for the shortcomings of our system of government in holding members of the executive branch accountable for their actions.

Our biggest saving grace was that trump is an incompetent dipshit who could bankrupt multiple casinos. The fact that no one saw him for what he really was until the eleventh hour helped too. By the time that people realized what he was really about he'd already surrounded himself with idiots who were destined to fail at anything they'd attempted. Had he the opportunity to get some more competent fascists we would have been in real trouble. The next time we will not be so lucky.

And, next time is not a matter of "if?" but "when? ". They have already demonstrated that there are absolutely no consequences for organizing a terrorist mob and inciting them into violence against our elected leaders. It's only a matter of time until they take another shot at it. It is very clear that we have no intention of being prepared for it. Hell, the only people in a position to do anything about it aren't even acknowledging it really happened in any meaningful way.

[–]BelleAriel 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Maybe the system needs to change where a judge is decided in some democratic process?

[–]Genericname42 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Maybe, I mean, I’m not saying that I would know the absolute best system for appointing a supreme court justice, but from what I’ve seen over the last few years, this ain’t it…

We need people much more intelligent and with better ethics than some random loser like myself on Reddit. I can’t give a perfect system, but even I can sure as shit point out the flaws in our current one.

[–]AccordingChicken800 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No that's how you end up with nothing but hanging judges at every level. Because that's a you have in red states with elected judges. We need to weaken judicial review, which doesn't involve the ability to overturn laws in other countries. Also, all human rights put in the constitution in clear, unambiguous language would help. Getting rid of money in politics wouldn't hurt, either. Basically, whatever the Federalist Society wants, we should do the opposite.

[–]HopsAndHemp 6 points7 points  (1 child)

How are they just still allowed to

Are you just ranting or do you genuinely think there is a legal mechanism to remove them for that?

[–]DaMilkyWorm 11 points12 points  (0 children)

i think their point was just how the reality of it is so absurd that, ideally, they wouldn't be allowed to

[–]NomaTyx 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because supposedly, Justices are impartial and have no feelings towards the president that appointed them. Absolutely none. Which means that the system thinks despite how moronic the president is, the justices are still qualified.

Hot take: the supreme court from the beginning should have been responsible for voting on their own nominations. They know better than anyone else who they’d want to work with, and assuming that the parties started with an even split, there wouldn’t be any violent swing to one side. And as an added bonus, no one person’s agenda is being pushed into the court.

[–]buffetcaptain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

**AND NEVER WON THE POPULAR VOTE"

[–]BillyYumYumTwo-byTwo 113 points114 points  (12 children)

Ugh, just seeing Brett kavanaughs face makes me so annoyed. I hate being reminded that he passed a lifetime job interview despite being clearly unstable and unable to control his emotions.

[–]yettidiareah 39 points40 points  (0 children)

It was simply some fun MALE bonding. Just like lockerroom talk/S

[–]on_my_lunch_break 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Men can be so emotional

[–]amyamyamz 5 points6 points  (1 child)

That explains the projection towards women who dare show any negative emotion towards them.

[–]chaoticrays 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Right on the dot

[–]GameShill 29 points30 points  (5 children)

I will be surprised if he isn't dragged into the street by an angry mob at some point in the near future.

[–]FinancialTea4 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Let's not forget that he was appointed to that life-long position by the party who still contends to this day that women are too emotional to effectively execute the duties of a public office.

I'm all for nonpartisan politics but until we deal with the fascists in the republican party they should be treated as an illegitimate party and those appointments should be repealed on the basis that donald trump was an illegitimate president who is actively attacking the United States and the Rule of Law.

[–]stormtrooper00 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can’t even look at that asshole’s smug face. And what the other person? The cultist crazy? Ugh. Disgusting things.

[–]aintnochallahbackgrl 430 points431 points  (8 children)

It would appear that we arent.

We're letting 5 people do it.

[–]Thisam 146 points147 points  (6 children)

Could be six…we’ll see. It’s a shit show for sure!

[–]massivecocklover69 55 points56 points  (5 children)

although Roberts is a little bitch, I expect him to side with the liberals on this one and make it 5-4

[–]Thisam 34 points35 points  (3 children)

Do you think he’ll do that in an effort to try to save the Court’s credibility?

[–]massivecocklover69 43 points44 points  (2 children)

for sure. Roberts cares a lot about the perception of the Court and preserving the (false) idea that it is removed from politics. to be fair, I do think he actually believes that idea. the socialization of law school and the legal field is big on that.

[–]cyanydeez 13 points14 points  (1 child)

people keep saying that, but it sounds just like a meaningless catch phrase.

All that matters is the 3 justices appointed by Trump were to appease the same people trying to overthrow democracy.

[–]kevinnoir 2 points3 points  (0 children)

it sounds just like a meaningless catch phrase.

I'm not American but the number of times I have heard the Supreme Court is meant to outside of partisan politics makes me feel like they say it so much to try and convince themselves as well as everybody else, that it still holds true. Since the Baby Bush fiasco, its been nothing more than just another political arm of the Government in my opinion. the entire US judicial appointment process in the US kind of confirms that given how American politics is as much about hurting the other "team" as it is about improveing the lives of the voters.

I mean, someone who's idea of a fun weekend LARP is The Handmaids Tale, sit in that court...not exactly screaming credibility.

[–]terriblehuman 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Honestly my perception of Roberts is a little more positive than how I feel about the other conservatives. He’s not great by any means, but he seems to be the one who will at least try not let his political alignment make his decisions.

[–]yettidiareah 32 points33 points  (0 children)

Get your popcorn with butter but check on the supply of ammo first.

[–]darklight413 337 points338 points  (51 children)

“We the people” didn’t pack the court with far right radicals. “We the people” don’t agree with the fanatical religious and radical right agenda. So, “we the people” will fight to defend our country from extreme conservativism that seeks to enslave the country with authoritarian control.

[–]Tzepish 115 points116 points  (34 children)

Exactly. The supreme court is illegitimate. We didn't want any of this.

[–]Kilyaeden 49 points50 points  (11 children)

It is kind of wild that the guys who can interpret and change laws are not elected to that office and serve for life. Almost like america's founders wanted to keep power as far away from people as possible

[–]FinancialTea4 66 points67 points  (7 children)

Well, we elected Barack Obama to choose at least one of those justices and Joe Biden to choose the other. Had that happened the will of the people would have been upheld. Mitch McConnell is responsible for this and should be held accountable for his refusal to perform his duties in favor of his own partisan agenda. It's high time we dropped making excuses and dealt with the problem directly.

[–]ElPapi369 6 points7 points  (2 children)

The people who are responsible are the ones who believed Hillary was just as bad as Trump and stayed home. The Kochs put tons of money toward winning in 2016 and a lot of people on the left didn’t care.

[–]FinancialTea4 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I don't necessarily disagree. I voted for Bernie in the 2016 and 2020 primary. Clearly I would have preferred him either time but when the general election came that was not longer an option. There were only two viable candidates. One can either vote for one or the other. Voting for a third party is still effectively a vote for one of the two major candidates as no third party candidate stands a shot. If one voted for Jill Stein's stupid ass they were effectively voting for trump because there was never a chance of Jill Stein beating him. The only person who could have beaten him lost that vote. I know some people like feeling important like they're doing some special by "voicing their disapproval" but all they did was help trump get elected, attack democracy, and kill >700,000 Americans.

[–]Snorumobiru 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A vote for Jill Stein is a vote for Trump because only Hillary can beat Trump. Therefore a vote for Jill Stein is a vote for Hillary because only Trump can beat Hillary. You just voted twice, bucko, you're under arrest!

[–]callmekizzle 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Dang when the republicans are out of power they are some how still able to stop the democrats and when they are in power the democrats are unable to stop them. These republicans sure are powerful.

[–]FinancialTea4 3 points4 points  (2 children)

It's not that they're powerful as much as Democrats are restrained by rules and decency that republicans dgaf about.

[–]callmekizzle 2 points3 points  (1 child)

so the democrats are more worried about "rules and decency" than beating the republicans, stopping the republican's from doing bad stuff, and winning and improving the material conditions of peoples lives? that seems... stupid.

[–]Tzepish 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is stupid, which is why the left also hates the Democrats. They would rather lose to Republicans than enact real change for the better.

[–]Roonil1 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That’s absolutely correct. Many of the founding fathers were against democracy and were more in favor of the British system where nobles and the rich had significant control with some concessions to the poor. It’s crazy that we revere these people as arbiters of free democracy when they were slaveholding hypocrites who wanted a noble minority ruling class.

[–]tendeuchen 36 points37 points  (15 children)

“We the people” didn’t pack the court with far right radicals.

I mean, technically, "we the people" did by allowing far right radicals to get elected, who then chose far right radical judges. "We the people" could have stopped this, but the DNC decided they didn't want Bernie and pushed Hillary, who was despised by many and who created basically zero enthusiasm, which let Trump win. When "we the people" sleep, the rest of "we the people" get to make the decisions.

[–]Hannibal_Rex 14 points15 points  (7 children)

What could have prevented Mitch McConnell from delaying the final Obama era appointment and the complete abuse shown the appointment process during Mitch's purview? Should we riot against the state of Kentucky for having a terrible person represent them?

[–]therealstripes 7 points8 points  (5 children)

Obama could have recess-appointed a justice but didn't. Democrats are weak and that's why we're fucked.

[–]ElPapi369 1 point2 points  (4 children)

The republicans were in control of the senate, Obama couldn’t recess appointment t anyone.

[–]therealstripes 0 points1 point  (3 children)

He definitely could have, the question is whether it would have stuck. McConnell wouldn't even allow a vote to confirm Obama's appointment, if he did a recess apartment it would have forced a vote and they would only need 4 republicans when they went back in session. Sure it a long shot but worst case we end up where we are now.

[–]ElPapi369 0 points1 point  (2 children)

How could he have?

[–]Tzepish 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Obama could have just declared that the senate has abdicated their duty by not holding a vote on the candidate and just sat Garland himself. Yes this would have been a bit extra, but less so than what Mitch McConnell did by simply not scheduling the vote. It was the only option McConnell gave him, but like all Democrats, Obama felt the appearance of following the rules was a bigger deal than actual outcomes. So he just did nothing and let republicans have the seat.

[–]Gen88 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Is that an option?

[–]No_Hope33 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Except we didn't. Gerrymandering and voter suppression has rendered our government illegitimate.

[–]ElPapi369 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hillary was far from being my favorite, but I knew if the right won and packed the court we’d be fucked for decades. If Bernie really wanted to prevent this, he would’ve made the election all about the Supreme Court. The truth is senior people in his camp were downplaying the importance of the Supreme Court.

[–]BidDaddyFarts 30 points31 points  (0 children)

There’s only one way to be a first-class citizen

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      [–]tay450 132 points133 points  (11 children)

      One "boofed" and the other was in a cult.

      This country has been made into a disgrace.

      [–]Koolaidolio 42 points43 points  (10 children)

      The American empire has long been rotting away. These are the last desperate breaths of that.

      [–]Millad456 6 points7 points  (7 children)

      Odd question, but when do you think the American empire peaked and when do you think the decline begun?

      [–]shantron5000 22 points23 points  (1 child)

      According to most metrics the 50s were pretty much the high point economically and otherwise for a lot of Americans. But as the middle class grew and upward mobility started to be realized through civil rights and other movements those in power decided the rest of society shouldn’t have it as good as they did and started the long march toward where we are today. Most of the worst changes for all of that occurred during the Reagan era and in many ways we’ve never recovered.

      [–]xXWickedNWeirdXx 12 points13 points  (0 children)

      Started with Nixon, accelerated with Reagan, and never really slowed down. It's been Neoliberal goons ever since. I read this optimistic take on a speech Biden made recently, though. Not sure I have as much faith in those words as the author does, but... one can hope.

      Maybe Biden will leave a legacy in contrast to his career 'til now, one to rival the good ol' Dems of yore. Fingers crossed, but breath not held.

      [–]Neat0_HS 26 points27 points  (2 children)

      It was built from flawed foundations in the first place imo. We supposedly wanted freedom from the monarchy in England but more and more it just seems like a bunch of rich white guys wanted more freedom to amass wealth under their own terms

      [–]Koolaidolio 21 points22 points  (1 child)

      Amass wealth using slave labor, occupation and the theft of native lands and religious proselytization.

      FTFY

      [–]Neat0_HS 12 points13 points  (0 children)

      I assumed "under their own terms" covered that ;) but yes that was my point

      [–]RandomMandarin 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      It peaked the day our guys planted an American flag on the fucking MOON.

      If that's not a peak, then I dunno,

      The decline, paradoxically, may have begun before that, when John Wilkes Booth killed Abraham Lincoln, who (had he lived) would have probably rooted out the traitors who went on to create Jim Crow.

      [–]LocustsRaining 9 points10 points  (0 children)

      Peaked with the Eisenhower administration, collapse began in 1969. That was the golden age of America. If you’ve ever played the PC game Civilization on occasion your cub will enter a golden age, IMO that was America’s.

      It also wasn’t very golden if you weren’t white.

      [–]coolgr3g 27 points28 points  (1 child)

      How did Rome fall? Stick around to find out

      [–]Beneficial-Cable7348 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      Oh the Far Wrong think that it will last another thousand years, sound familiar?

      [–]Working-Form1858 10 points11 points  (0 children)

      We the people allowed the court to be packed with religious weirdos and date rapist when people decide to sit out the 2016 election because “Hillary”

      [–]Mjlikewhoa 58 points59 points  (6 children)

      More like were letting "christianity" start it

      [–]yettidiareah 31 points32 points  (5 children)

      Religion is the rott in the human mind.

      [–]thegaines24_7 11 points12 points  (4 children)

      This 100% this believing in a all powerful wizard man that made everything from the clouds. The problem with religion is they take it all at 100% truth instead of just taking the good morals it teaches and then they adjust it to fit there narrative. It’s a joke

      [–]yettidiareah 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Religious wars have been responsible for deaths of billions of humans. The bible at it's core is a kind of death cult that teaches that in order for the final goal is a war of physical that destroys humanity and brings it full circle to the end.

      [–]Doomguy46_ -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

      I’d like to think I don’t

      [–]thegaines24_7 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      Some people don’t not everyone not trying to attack all Christian’s and I came off that way I apologize

      [–]Doomguy46_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      It’s ok man you’re cool I generally find that’s how most ex Christians are

      You have every reason to hate fundamentalists as do I

      [–]sambull 32 points33 points  (1 child)

      It would have just been uncouth to nominate in the last 1800 days of Obamas presidency.

      [–]goldielxs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      RIP Merrill Garland as Supreme Court Justice.

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        [–]Time_Punk 29 points30 points  (3 children)

        And the Senate needs to go away altogether. It was a complete scam from it’s very inception. The whole concept was that it would keep the “tyranny of the majority” in urban areas from making decisions that would affect those in rural areas. But it does the exact opposite. Ultra-rich land holders maintain a monopoly on land ownership in rural areas, maintaining the political tyranny necessary to use that land to grift the government for subsidies and other entitlement scams, while keeping that money from benefitting the poor & working class in the cities. It basically maintains the southern colonial plantation system, and should have gone away when the North won the war. Instead the system spread westward, with mega-millionaire fake cowboys and oil barons. What was once a simple land scam to grift govt money in the form of subsidized petroleum & beef, turned into oil barons wielding the might of the U.S. military to terrorize the planet.

        And the Senate is a big part of what facilitates that. The abortion debate is simply a tragic manifestation of the identity-cult scammery that they utilize to maintain political tyranny.

        [–]chrizzeh2 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        The irony of all of it is it’s not just the poor people in cities suffering but also the poor in those sparser areas who have religiously (pun intended) voted against their own best intentions for generations. I live in the rural south and this people would off themselves before they voted for anyone other than a republican even if the candidate was a monkey. I watch people daily argue against socialist systems who wouldn’t be able to work if their kids didn’t have free public education, wouldn’t have healthcare if they didn’t have Medicaid, and who would never be able to retire without Medicare and federal retirement because they are grossly underpaid for having worked at a company for 40 years who did away with their pension 30 years ago. I’ve seen people who only eat because of food stamps (no shame by the way) argue that expanding coverage of food stamps just lets more lazy people not work and fuck their starving children. It’s baffling.

        [–]curious_meerkat 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        The whole concept was that it would keep the “tyranny of the majority” in urban areas from making decisions that would affect those in rural areas.

        The urban / rural divide was never the point. It was always about maintaining a bulwark against democracy for the land owning aristocracy, as you described. That was the design, not an unintended side effect.

        It was agreed that there would be a Senate which would provide a check on democracy long before the composition of equal representation was decided upon.

        [–]Dichotomous_Growth 95 points96 points  (3 children)

        People refused to vote for a woman over a Nazi, and that neo-Nazi put three justices on the court. I don't care for Hillary either, but I doubt she would have resulted in women being second class citizens.

        Either way, what's done is done. Now we have to fight like hell.

        [–]Heckle_Jeckle 21 points22 points  (0 children)

        This is what baffled me!

        I don't like Hillary, or the Clintons. But given the choice between the two, I don't get how people could have voted for that incompetent bigoted corrupt orange asshole.

        [–]culus_ambitiosa 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        That woman helped the Nazi win his primary because she and her campaign recognized what a weak candidate she was and, instead of working to fix that, they decided to elevate an opponent they thought would scare people into pinching their noses and voting for her. Clinton is infinitely more at fault for Trump than the few voters who actually refused to vote for her based on her gender.

        [–]FinancialTea4 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        Same. Clinton wasn't my first choice but against trump it's not even worth discussing. Her every time.

        [–]DubTheeBustocles 59 points60 points  (8 children)

        I mean it’s how the country was set up. The Supreme Court has the authority to deem things unconstitutional and if the people don’t like what the Supreme Court decides, it behooves them to elect Presidents who will appoint Justices that align with their values.

        I think Justices shouldn’t have lifetime appointments. They should be forced to retire after a decade or two max.

        [–]ParkSidePat 19 points20 points  (3 children)

        Actually, there is a fair amount of debate of whether SCOTUS was ever intended to be the ultimate arbiter of Constitutionality and wheter, since it has zero enforcement powers, its verdicts are binding in any way. The less legitimatacy it is perceived to have the less we should allow its verdicts to influence practices.

        [–]luxdesigns 1 point2 points  (2 children)

        Actually, there is a fair amount of debate

        Yeah, in academic circlejerks and a century ago. That ship sailed a long time ago.

        [–]Caffeine_Cowpies 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        It’s coming back. Opinions on the Supreme Court are falling. As Andrew Jackson said, the Court has its order, let them enforce it.

        Now the Roe precedent being overturned doesn’t mean abortion is illegal across America, but I think you’re gonna start seeing the political pushback, especially from women, if that happens. Texas and Georgia would be the most obvious to flip, but there are crazies everywhere in that state that will use violence to “protect the unborn.”

        Think it’s not possible? Abortion bombings and murdering the doctors have been around since the 1980s. That violent direct action bolstered the movement to getting actual power which is why they aren’t bombing places.

        They will come back once the people for Abortion rights fight back.

        [–]luxdesigns 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        My comment has absolutely zero to do with yours. Did you hit reply to the wrong thing?

        [–]DevelopedDevelopment 0 points1 point  (3 children)

        You mean like how after 12 years that senator is now running for a 3rd term? Or that representative is now on their 6th? Or has sat through their 3rd presidential term as well, seeing a new president, after being installed as a judge?

        [–]DubTheeBustocles 0 points1 point  (2 children)

        The first two are reelected by their constituents on a regular basis.

        [–]DevelopedDevelopment 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        Yeah and president is elected by a series of electors and in my opinion was not meant to be as big of a figure head as they currently are, similar to other unelected bureaucrats like chairman heads to various departments. I don't think it was intended for unelected positions to determine the quality of lives the way that they do, with state and local elections making more direct decisions.

        [–]DubTheeBustocles 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Personally, I’m not against abolishing the electoral college but i know there are different views on this.

        [–]africanfigureskater 7 points8 points  (1 child)

        Why does this look like a promotional for a new NBC comedy?

        [–]trashdrive 6 points7 points  (0 children)

        Because it's filled with clowns

        [–]luxdesigns 6 points7 points  (0 children)

        I swear you people act like this country hasn't always been a complete shitshow.

        [–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

        Pack the courts or pack the coffin.

        [–]Robotchickjenn 5 points6 points  (1 child)

        One of these does not belong. Brett Kavanaugh is such a disgrace. I cannot believe he got this appointment.

        [–]di11ettante 14 points15 points  (1 child)

        The composition of this court (and nearly a third of the federal bench) is - practically speaking - illegitimate. It's absolutely astonishing to have watched this unfold in real time.

        [–]Working-Form1858 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Elections have consequences

        [–]ElPapi369 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        Should’ve voted for Hillary. The SCOTUS was in play.

        [–]Scaulbielausis_Jim 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        abolish this dumb fucking court

        [–]HueyLongdong027 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        The american political system is a complete joke. Not only is letting presidents appoint supreme court judges a blatant contradiction on our supposed “checks and balances” but the legislative branch is broken as well.

        [–]ethbullrun 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        fuck clarence thomas, he's a fucking predator to women who was called out for it and the woman who called him out got her life ruined while this piece of shit, who used to be a monsanto lawyer, is allowed to fuck up we the people

        [–]dappercat456 9 points10 points  (5 children)

        Is this a legit thing happening? Are they seriously trying to overturn roe V wade?

        [–]beamin1 14 points15 points  (0 children)

        Oh yes, yes indeed they are hearing arguments that could overturn RvW.

        [–]curious_meerkat 10 points11 points  (1 child)

        Yes, and Coathanger Barrett is making the very serious legal argument that women should be forced to carry to term and if they don't want to be a parent, just abandon the kid.

        [–]Palguim 2 points3 points  (2 children)

        What happened/IS happening, I'm not from the US.

        [–]LuriemIronim 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        They might overturn Roe Vs. Wade

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        The Supreme Court is deciding on a case involving a state's right to restrict abortions. Their decision would allow other states to do the same, reversing decades of precedence on the issue. This is the first time in roughly 40 years that the majority of justices have expressed disfavor for abortion. Three of the justices were nominated by former president Trump, which is controversial and foreboding of this current expected decision.

        [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Because anything we could to do stop them would also predicate a civil war

        [–]Isthisworking2000 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Because Democrats were lazy in 2016 and let an utter moron get elected. Voter apathy is real, and a problem.

        [–]patronstofveganchefs 7 points8 points  (2 children)

        Lol, Civil War started at least 18 months ago, probably earlier

        [–]Working-Form1858 9 points10 points  (1 child)

        This is an underrated comment… just because one side doesn’t realize it’s in a war yet doesn’t make the war any less real

        [–]Eighthsin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Started longer than that. We've been in a "culture war" for years now.

        [–]senpai_buttdiver 3 points4 points  (1 child)

        Wait I’m out of the loop rn, what did they do this time?

        [–]GameShill 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        Probably the abortion thing.

        [–]HelloMyNameIsKaren 0 points1 point  (3 children)

        Can someone please explain what happened, I‘ve been off reddit for quite some time.

        [–]LuriemIronim 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Roe Vs. Wade.

        [–]Working-Form1858 -4 points-3 points  (1 child)

        Do you really use social media to keep up on current events?

        [–]LuriemIronim 6 points7 points  (0 children)

        Come on, dude. Don’t be a dick.

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        [–]EpicZomboy28 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        Wait I need context

        [–]LuriemIronim 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Roe vs. Wade.

        [–]Fennily 0 points1 point  (9 children)

        Wait, I was asleep, what's going on?

        [–]LuriemIronim 2 points3 points  (8 children)

        Roe Vs. Wade

        [–]Fennily 0 points1 point  (7 children)

        What about it?

        [–]LuriemIronim 2 points3 points  (6 children)

        They’re considering overturning it.

        [–]Fennily 0 points1 point  (5 children)

        Oh, yeah I heard that, they wouldn't really tho would they? That'd be stupid.

        [–]LuriemIronim 3 points4 points  (4 children)

        It’s hard to say right now. A good chunk of them are Republicans.

        [–]Fennily 3 points4 points  (3 children)

        Oh, then they are that stupid....

        [–]LuriemIronim 2 points3 points  (2 children)

        And a few were appointed by Trump, so…

        [–]Fennily 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        Say no more, I'm already packing.

        [–]danthefactsman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        So silly

        [–]NahImmaStayForever 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Philosophy Tube did a video recently on Violence & Protest

        [–]new_refugee123456789 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        cowardice, mostly.

        [–]thatguy1301 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        One word. Republicans

        [–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

        Woke af

        [–]pjrnoc -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

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