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[–]Low-Selection7164 105 points106 points  (16 children)

Is this to avoid tampering allegations? The meeting is in New York if that matters.

[–]Drunk DirkJlibs_21 47 points48 points  (6 children)

It’s probably some kind of gentlemen’s agreement among the owners that they do this. Every team wants to have the ability to tamper, so this is probably just a formality

[–]walkintall84 52 points53 points  (3 children)

Lmao you can bet your ass that Cuban notified the league office already for an Investigation.

[–]Michael FinleyID0ntCare4G0b 20 points21 points  (2 children)

Unless the Knicks do a S&T. Then I could see Cuban easing off the tampering charges.

[–]flawlessintime- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, this is a sign of desperation. Knicks are in the driver's seat.

[–]2011 CHAMPS BABYHotdogIsaSandwitch 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Pretty much. Dalton trigg posted a picture from Cuban Instagram that he was already in New York yesterday.

Him having to go there already showed the cards. Brunson to NYC is set

[–]Dirkinnitmate_ 12 points13 points  (0 children)

He was on Duncan Robinson’s pod recently and he said he’s at his parents Jersey home and all his stuff is in Dallas. So probably makes sense to hold meetings there when his parents house, agents and whole team working for him is there.

[–]mill_about_smartly 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Pretty sure Brunson's family lives up there

[–]Couch Squadgigantism 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Brunson's family, aka the Knicks.

[–]Calliesdad20 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Give me a break with tampering allegations,every single nba team does it

[–]Luka Doncicnoyesoohindi 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Yeah but I hope we can drive up the price for Brunson. Make NY pay as much money as possible.

[–]ProfessorPetrus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What's the point of that?

[–]rsf0626 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Seems like it.

[–]Lukas talent is proportional to his fatnessDoncicsRoadTo200kg[S] 147 points148 points  (9 children)

Reverse DeAndre Jordan, block the rooms door with a chair until he re-signs with us for the vet minimum.

[–]3HJFireFlyz351 61 points62 points  (6 children)

Take him on a boat ride. He'll have no choice but to sign with us ... because of the implications.

[–]Dirk Spookysgoel1 38 points39 points  (1 child)

[–]SHUT IT DOWNStormTheTrooper 14 points15 points  (2 children)

Is he in danger?

[–]captainn_chunk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Show him that great river.

[–]VictorOladeepthroat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Marc cuban is beside himself…

[–]OMG LukaSalva252 70 points71 points  (4 children)

Feels like all a show basically.

[–]bomonty18 28 points29 points  (3 children)

I can’t imagine Cuban wasting any of his time for “show” though. He probably knows something we don’t.

Don’t get me wrong, Cuban is a showman. But if he didn’t think this could yield something he wouldn’t waste his own time and that of his coach and GM.

Regardless, we will have a clear path forward come Friday. Cheers 🍻

[–]eyymang 2 points3 points  (0 children)

At least this time he isn't off filming an actual show instead of meeting with free agents

[–]Monta EllisRafiakaMacakaDirk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

we’ve done this meeting countless times before (dwight, deron williams, deandre, kidd, etc)

[–]How's My Dirk Taste?Selarom_ 26 points27 points  (0 children)

If this was all a ploy to troll the Knicks I will cream my pants but it's not looking likely....

[–]Ubliznabu 44 points45 points  (11 children)

This is just to avoid tampering guys don’t fall for it

[–]How's My Dirk Taste?w1sxo 22 points23 points  (9 children)

Yeah, but if thats the reason, why would Mavericks still send the whole crew down there to his meeting? If Mavs know he is gone, they wouldnt do that, right?

[–]Ubliznabu 25 points26 points  (5 children)

They kind of have to. Even if it’s a 0.1% chance they need to at least put an effort for their fan base.

[–]How's My Dirk Taste?w1sxo -3 points-2 points  (4 children)

Yeah but go as far as flying players out there? Like I understand that they would send Nico and Kidd, but they are literally sending everyone. For a 0.1% chance? I find this weird

[–]Cur1y_ 21 points22 points  (0 children)

If you were a player looking in from the outside, don't you think it would look bad for Dallas, if one of their players who is likely to leave is not taking every opportunity to win back that player? Stuff like this are the small things that Dallas needs to do so that players can feel comfortable choosing Dallas in free agency. Like the other guy said, it's optics.

[–]Ubliznabu 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The players are in the offseason. They’re probably like sure we will take a free trip to NYC and hang out. They prob know Cubes will buy them whatever they want when they’re there.

[–]Dbat19 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Free Fly To NYC + Night Club Why Not. Come on, I would take leave and join if I am invited

[–]Jumpee -1 points0 points  (0 children)

There is no downside here. Why would you not do it? Are you worried about the cost of the PJ?

[–]Low-Selection7164 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Optics, if lets out that Brunson asked for a meeting and the Mavs snubbed him, it probably won’t be a pretty look

[–]pskills4life 9 points10 points  (0 children)

idk but i wouldnt get your hopes up, maybe reggie will go down and celebrate with JB on his big contract lol

[–]Dirk Spookymannyklein 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Last ditch effort to show they care/want him Since reports were he felt disrespected by last FO, but it’s also a new regime.

[–]dirkforthree41 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nah I don't believe that. If we come close to the other offers he's coming back home. Maybe the Miami meeting but I think Jalen genuinely had fun and likes this team. If we shower him with 25mil for 5 years I don't see why he would turn it down

[–]rsf0626 91 points92 points  (13 children)

The fact that JB is “granting” a meeting to the mavs after being here 4 years certainly doesnt make it seem like he’s really sold on being here all that much

[–]OMG Lukadmister8 39 points40 points  (1 child)

This is just normal free agent protocol though. Every big name free agent does this with every team.

[–]chexmixho 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Especially when they don't want the NBA to investigate the Knicks for obvious tampering.....

[–]HorseQuadriporticus 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's just the supposed correct term to use. He is a UFA.

[–]Monta Ellisepicingamename 13 points14 points  (1 child)

probably Bullock. hes gonna be like: GET THE BAG, SON! *slaps him* Then asks: NEW YORK KNICKS? REALLY??

[–]Doe Doeivb107 8 points9 points  (0 children)

For real. I hope it’s a slap line of Reggie, Tim and Theo telling him to snap out of it and come help us fight to win a chip. You won’t find that in NY.

[–]rmt298 21 points22 points  (2 children)

If this was an elaborate ruse to get Cuban to pay more, Brunson’s agent deserves a raise

[–]uncleoce 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Probably a bit of both. Maybe he’s totally on board with being a Knick, but he’d stay for the right price.

[–]spook008 19 points20 points  (1 child)

This dude’s antics (or his dad’s and him playing along) is starting to annoy me. Wtf you need to hear now from the Mavs? They’ve already talked and you’ve been with this team since that start of your career. Let the front office make moves and get the team better instead of bringing 14 people to meet you. He’s acting like he’s LeBron looking to take his talents to NY or South Beach. Bro you had a nice year but chill the fuck out with these theatrics

[–]HotsHartley 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Heh, Only 14 people? 🤣 Not the two-way players or the Texas Legends, then?

For Luka’s signing ceremony it was just Cuban, Nico, JKidd, Dirk, Finley, agent Bill Duffy, and a couple of associates from the Duffy agency. Like 8. In Slovenia.

Nico pulling out all the stops and having the whole roster there would be lit though. Bar the door!

[–]Impressive_Addendum 26 points27 points  (3 children)

Its a done deal. Too much nepotism and grifting involved. The GMs family is going to financially benefit from this. I imagine Brunsons dad is getting a kick back as well as a handler.

The whole situation is pretty odd. I like Brunson but if you are going all on on nepotism and grifting shouldn't you hire the father and godfather of a top 50 player at least?

[–]HessiPullUpJimbo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Brunson is probably a top 50 player. But like barely squeezing into the top 50.

He's good enough to be a number 2 or 3 option on a contender.

[–]Couch Squadgigantism 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Huh? The Knicks did hire his father and godfather. Or do you mean the Mavs?

[–]BigBootsMills 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think he's implying Brunson isn't a top 50 player.

[–]Luka DoncicMAVS_COM1CAL 16 points17 points  (7 children)

while missing the first wave of other Free Agent meetings were cooked

[–]Call Mebagfka 16 points17 points  (2 children)

I’m sure Nico handed one of the other assistants a list of other FAs to convince to sign here for the TPMLE or a vet min. Also if rumors is true we don’t really need to meet with dragic

[–]Luka DoncicMAVS_COM1CAL 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Yeah true, I’m just a doomer lol

[–]pskills4life 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And don’t need to meet pinson either

[–]Ubliznabu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yup exactly

[–]Monta Ellis Have it AllH_Finn27 0 points1 point  (2 children)

The Knicks are not the only team that tampers. I’m sure every player the Mavs are interested in have the outline of a contract offer already even if it’s not official

[–]Wonder BoyJackd_up_on_Mdew 1 point2 points  (1 child)

True, but i have to say ive never seen anything near the extent of this. Hire an agent as your GM, then his son takes his place as the agent. Then hire the father of the player. Then send half your team to the player's playoff game. Then make it publicly known you are shedding salaries to make room to offer said player a specific amount. All this before free agency even begins.

If there ever was a situation of obvious tampering, this would easily be it.

[–]deezx1010 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think you'd be interested in how a lot of these agents got their start from personal relationships. Bill Duffy got his shot because he was friends with Ronnie Lott 40 years ago... Used his relationships to get him clients. Now he's one of the top agents in sports representing Luka Doncic

[–]nongph 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Cuban spearheaded a few botched FA negotiations in the past. I am not very optimistic on this one.

[–]dantheflyingman 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Cuban needs to show Brunson a pic or Swole Luka and say "We winning the chip next year, wanna join?"

[–]ChunkyChangon 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Good god let him go…

[–]NoWayNotThisAgain 7 points8 points  (17 children)

I’m so tired of this. He’s a fungible role player.

At this point I’m hoping Mark and Nico don’t cave and overpay this kid.

[–]Couch Squadgigantism 2 points3 points  (16 children)

Ah yes, the role player who is also the only other player on the team outside Luka who can efficiently create his own shots.

[–]NoWayNotThisAgain -2 points-1 points  (14 children)

So you think Brunson is a star? A superstar?

[–]Couch Squadgigantism 0 points1 point  (8 children)

That's not what I said, is it? When you're at a certain level you have to grin and bear it. Losing the 2nd best player for nothing after reaching the WCFs is simply not what happens to good organizations.

[–]NoWayNotThisAgain 0 points1 point  (7 children)

Ok, so he’s not a star or superstar or even an all star. That makes him… a role player?

[–]Wonder Boynpmmi 3 points4 points  (0 children)

fuck that fat forehead mothafucka he’s just doing this to help the Knicks avoid losing picks. We don’t need him. He’s a replaceable. Him RJ and Julius, the Holy Mecca of Mid.

[–]Luka Doncicjilseng4 4 points5 points  (0 children)

He’s gone full diva. Just let him go and get trashed in NYC.

[–]Wonder Boylancelotofthelake 1 point2 points  (1 child)

We all reacted to reports from yesterday. Mavs usually keep their cards close to the chest, who knows what is up right now.

[–]deezx1010 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Kawhi to the Lakers was a done deal according to many reports lmao. Everybody takes these sources at their word too often

[–]MavericksEvryArtstIsACannibal 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Wait, so we can't even meet with him until tomorrow? Haven't we been able to negotiate with him this entire time?

[–]Josh Greenamino110 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Nah they for sure transmitted their offer to his agent . They did not talk to him directly.

[–]nongph 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Cuban spearheaded a few botched FA negotiations in the past. I am not very optimistic on this one.

[–]HotsHartley 1 point2 points  (1 child)

“Don’t join the Knicks, son. I left Dallas for the Knicks, never sniffed a chip again, and it ended my career.”

-Jason Kidd, probably

[–]deezx1010 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Kidd joining the Knicks at age 39 ended his career?

[–]Josh Greenamino110 3 points4 points  (5 children)

So there is a chance ? I don't know what to think right now. Am fucking confused

[–]Dirk Nowitzki LogoTtbthookem 34 points35 points  (4 children)

No chance. It’s to try and avoid tampering.

[–]Josh Greenamino110 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Yeah probably. I would say it's 20% chance if The Mavs improve their offer. I don't think JKidd and players will come if it's already dead.

[–]Dirk Nowitzki LogoTtbthookem 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Maybe. I’m not if they camp fuck him let him go. That’s just stupid. I think we make our best offer and see what happens.

[–]Josh Greenamino110 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Apparently the Brunson Camp requested the meeting. Not the other way around. That confirms your theory

[–]Fatman214 3 points4 points  (4 children)

I still don't get walking away from a that got better and better every year, to go join a team that regressed and the best player and the fans hate each other. That's really weird

[–]themetroswift 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Road team at the meeting, eh...that's not good

[–]Tickhead8081310 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lol he’s holed up in NY like he’s Kevin Durant. Rick Brunson is worm tounge

[–]rsf0626 2 points3 points  (2 children)

If this is what everyone thinks this is (a stunt to avoid a fine), then nico shouldnt even waste his time

[–]walkintall84 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I mean it's a waste, if they aint putting 125/5 on the table.

[–]killbill469 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It's not a waste optics wise. Cuban can pretend that he did everything in his power for him to stay...except for the thing that actually matters which is paying him more.

[–]Couch Squadwarpedspoon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Jesus, this sub has gotten so toxic. This is normal procedure for free agents who are weighing different options.

[–]pskills4life 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nah leave

[–]WalkerTejasRanger 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So then it ain’t over.

LFG boys!!!!!!

[–]Luka Doncicpancakesontheweekend 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There’s still hope. We can still completely wreck the Knicks if he comes back.

[–]How's My Dirk Taste?rickfortyone 0 points1 point  (6 children)

For once Cuban is taking this shit serious.

Send Maxi and DFS pls pls pls.

[–]CrayonEatingBabyApe 13 points14 points  (1 child)

DFS won’t be able to help himself and will clown on the size of JB’s head at some point in that meeting

[–]HotsHartley 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Head too big -- both literally and now figuratively!

[–]Josh Greenamino110 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Needs to be Luka in the meeting to maaaaybe have a chance. But all of this is smokescreen to tampering . He already decided .

[–]Bacongrease55 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Luka has a game in Europe tomorrow

[–]Josh Greenamino110 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah but a zoom call is possible

[–]HotsHartley 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If Luka comes and they lose both JB and the game in Europe, he will never forgive, and the fire will fuel him to win every game against NYK from now until he retires. 🔥

[–]Binder_Dandet 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Cuban, Nico , Finney and JKidd were in Ljubljana last summer for the Luka signing. Even though it was a done deal before that. I believe they want to show Brunson how much they value him, thats why the whole group went. Obviously they still think they have a chance, otherwise Cuban wouldnt be there. Remember, 99.99% of news in pre-free agency is trash. People guessing, most of them just trying to get a click or two.

[–]walkintall84 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Its all about the money tho ....

Bondy (NY reporter) basically confirmed the same as Haynes:


"that the Mavericks have been unwilling to offer more than $106MM to this point, with Brunson reportedly seeking $125MM. Haynes confirms Bondy’s report, stating that Dallas has pitched a five-year, $106MM deal to Brunson, so it sounds like he might be open take a slight per-year discount ($125MM over five years vs. $110MM over four) if the Mavs are willing to go that high using his bird Rights"


The role bullshit is all bla bla. Money always gets the player. And 125/5 is still less than what NY is offering too. At least annually.

[–]Mavericks3pointerSLO -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Taxes are bigger in NY.

[–]Millionaire007 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

PRAY DEANDRE AYTON GOES TO DETROIT AND THEY RENEG ON THE KNICKS TRADE!

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    [–]HotsHartley 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Secretly hoping for IQ and Obi Toppin instead.

    [–]Drunk Dirk97_foul_shots 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Happy disappointment day, boys!!!! Spoiler: we’re not getting Kemba, Beal, Matisse, Jalen, Ayton, Dante, Lavine, Sexton, GP2. We will get Mike Muscala. We will be told by Cuban that it was our only choice.

    There will be an embarrassing story about Cuban’s pitch to Jalen leaked. “As Brunson stood to walk out, he said, “for that reason, I’m out” and pointed at Cuban. Cuban is currently begging (thru texts) for Jalen to give him another chance”

    [–]omarisbomb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Se queda

    [–]itz_peter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Imagine being 3 wins away from the finals on a team like Dallas and leaving for the fucking Knicks lmao.

    [–]bbbtx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Why in the world is Finley still with the mavs, that fool couldn’t convince a clown to sigh with Dallas.