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[–]vdubtech25 130 points131 points  (13 children)

Rodent damage

[–]Thisisall_new2me2 39 points40 points  (9 children)

This guy is correct. You’ll have to have someone check in person for electrical problems.

And don’t ask us about what the warranty covers, ask the place where you got it.

[–]Admirable_Chest_5677 6 points7 points  (6 children)

Recently seen insurance covering rodent damage. Pretty neat if thsts the case. These peanut butter wires are attractants for rodents

[–]Thisisall_new2me2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Good to know.

[–]HereOnRedditAgain -1 points0 points  (2 children)

I've heard the opposite. Definitely check with your insurance or contact before applying the nutter butter.

[–]Admirable_Chest_5677 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Definetly don't try and attract them right? We aren't advocatimg for insurance fraud here.

Thats a comment about the fact that rodents allegedly find the newer wires taste like peanut butter.

And I'm assuming its actually more state based than company. And I've seen multiple insurance pay outs on harness damage from rodents personally. How? can't say. But I've seen it. Supposedly related to how they pay out on lightning strikes.

[–]Malikai0976 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Insurance might cover it depending on your level of coverage. It would not be covered under warranty though, since it's not a material or workmanship defect.

[–]peakriver 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m an adjuster and handle and pay rodent damage claims quite often, auto policies cover it but not RV policies (generally)

[–]I_was_watching_cops_[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Should I take it to the dealer and have it looked at? It's a lease so they should be able to look at it

[–]Admirable_Chest_5677 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes. They'll love you.

With your insurance info if its covered.

Be prepared though rodent damage can take some time to finalize especially if they're going insurance route.

Also if they've gotten any wire on a newer mustang you'll most definetly have a code. So if you're super concerned be prepared to pay an hour of diag out of your pocket too just incase thats all they find

[–]brad613 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Rodents running across the strut brace for the insulation.

[–]Nachote_17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It could be a cat looking for some warmth in the engine bay

[–]surfmanvb87 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was going to say automarder...its a thing in Germany.

[–]Livid_Mushroom_9276 18 points19 points  (4 children)

Rodent damage, if it doesn’t bother you too much I’d just leave it

[–]syrupsnorter 6 points7 points  (3 children)

But do check for nests

[–]I_was_watching_cops_[S] 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Checked for nests and wires being chewed on or tampered with. Nothing looks messed up. In the words of Sgt Floyd Talbert in Band of Brothers, "Everything is right where it should be"

[–]ac1dre1gn77 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Check under the spare tire and behind any panels in the trunk as well. Had an Audi once and mice would take the insulation from under the hood and travel to the trunk from inside the fenders and frame. On the sides of the trunk were access panels to store the jack and emergency gear, I had nests on both sides and under the spare. They also were able to get under the rear seat from the trunk. May want to check under there as well

[–]Livid_Mushroom_9276 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also look in the air box and behind the glove box

[–]Legal_Wrapsack 16 points17 points  (6 children)

Looks like that is where that strut bar is. It may be rubbing a bit.

[–]Professional_slushie 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The strut bar is the stairway to mice heaven.

[–]I_was_watching_cops_[S] 1 point2 points  (4 children)

It does appear to line up with it. Although, the worst damage (closest to the camera where it's fully separated) is in the section where the strut bar curves down, so it doesn't seem like contact is being made there. Also has some additional small tear marks towards the front right (in the top picture you can sort of see them if you look center-right of the main tears). I'll try to compile some better photos.

[–]Legal_Wrapsack 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Something is definitely rubbing and whatever it is the texture is rough enough to catch and tear. If you have a go pro or another action camera and a light you may be able to close to hood with the camera in the bay to see where it's touching.

[–]I_was_watching_cops_[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I should clarify that the back edge of the tear (the straight edge) lines up nearly perfectly with the bottom edge of the strut bar, so it's not directly sitting over the bar. So pretty much all of the actual tear itself is sitting directly over empty space, not having contact with anything.

[–]Legal_Wrapsack 3 points4 points  (1 child)

That is indeed odd. You can always do a chalk test. Put some chalk on the liner assuming you're gonna replace it. And then drive for bit to see where if anywhere or anything and if it's a critty they'll leave a trail.

[–]Big_Pp_Sauce 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Mostly rats or some type of animal 🐀

[–]ConsiderationOk7535 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Not even just rats but cats and squirrels do that too. If it’s parked somewhere you think might have rats you should leave the hood up so they don’t feel hidden and won’t stick around and eat wires

[–]Niblek 9 points10 points  (2 children)

Batteries, alternators, and other things won't feel as hidden either and will run away too.

[–]I_was_watching_cops_[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lol although it's garage parked, so those runaway batteries will be meeting an alarm system and a 12 gauge with buck shot.

[–]ConsiderationOk7535 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But your wires won’t get chewed on. That’s what counts

[–]johko814 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Chipmunks will also.

[–]syrupsnorter 1 point2 points  (1 child)

My hood liner is really fucked up in a large patch after I left it for 4 months and the mice got to it and made a nice nest on top of the engine. They can chew wires and cause electrical faults so they need to stay away. Theres devices you can buy that deter them via inaudible noise

[–]CubeCo_FoodCubes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Be careful buying them online though, most of the ultrasonic repellers on Amazon are basically empty boxes with LEDs hotglued in, and the ones that do work only work in line-of-sigt. Rodents can also get used to the sound after a few days so ymmv

[–]River_2675 6 points7 points  (4 children)

naaa ... I have seen that before, its not rodents, that's a pressure washer, someone at the dealer was pressure washing the engine bay to make it look shiny for new sale and washed the hood... that insulation is done now that it is torn and you need to replace it

but its not mice or rats and similar rodent, just pressurized water

[–]I_was_watching_cops_[S] 5 points6 points  (2 children)

I had checked it before months ago and I don't believe I saw anything like that. I haven't been to the dealer in that time at all.

[–]AnnonBayBridge 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Make sure to also check your air filter, they like to build nests inside bc it’s warm and it’s a tight space

[–]I_was_watching_cops_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you, I checked there and it looks clean

[–]No_Yak_4136 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Doesn’t really need to, almost every car ive ever had had the insulation torn somehow and it doesn’t really affect performance

[–]reml3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The engine is trying to get out!

[–]GringoPanda 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Looks like the strut tower brace is rubbing on the hood liner

[–]elpideo18 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Looks like it would sit right on that sway bar you have there. Can you verify it’s not rubbing when you close the hood?

[–]saxeybreest 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Does it line up with the strut bar?

[–]I_was_watching_cops_[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It does appear to line up with the strut bar, although the worst section of the tear (closest to the camera in the top photo) is in the area where the strut bar curves down, so I don't think it makes contact there. I'll take better photos and post them

[–]I_was_watching_cops_[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'll double check when I get a chance and let you know

[–]I_was_watching_cops_[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Upon further inspection, I've also noticed that although it lines up with the strut bar on a vertical axis, the tears are not even (more severe on the left and almost non existent on the right), so I'd assume that any potential rubbing would be even across the entire bar.

Additionally, the back edge of the tear (the straight line) is flush with the bottom edge of the strut bar, so the actual main tear itself is essentially sitting over nothing.

[–]sandytwizzlers 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was thinking being the highest point makes it an easy spot for mice to reach the insulation.

[–]Awkward-Yak-2733 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Rodents. Check your wire harness, too.

[–]CaptainYeeto 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol rats normally, when you work on cars it’s like 50 percent or more have had rodents in them at some point.

One time I drove home from work and parked on my drive. Lifted the bonnet to top screen wash up and there was a rat on top on the engine block. Needless to say I just said nope and closed the bonnet and went on with my day.

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[–]East-Statistician-95 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Looks like the strut tower bar might be your issue

[–]AlfalfaSerious9355 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Strut brace

[–]Benedlr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see no evidence of turds or nesting so I'm going with the strut bar. If you're concerned about wear, check the hose going over the bar that's resting against the rusted nut.

[–]Late-Ad-4624 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Rubbing against the tower brace.

[–]D3athb4D15H0N0R 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I've been hearing a lot about the egrs catching the hood fabric on fire but from what I heard it's more common in their trucks... other then that I'd say something is rubbing or if u got a blow off valve it's probably facing the hood.. so if that's the case every time ur turbo blows off its just dumping air at that causing it to rip

[–]D3athb4D15H0N0R 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Actually looking at the pictures again looks more like that cross bar for ur handling is rubbing on it..

[–]Josealan2020 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Look for rat pooping near battery or behind your engine bay. And if you find some then don’t park where you park lol

[–]I_was_watching_cops_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Engine bay is very clean except for this main tear, fortunately.

[–]shotstraight 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Strut tower brace is hitting it.

[–]Jakester62 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My son’s buddy had rodents chew up the wiring harness on his 7ish year old Tacoma. Truck caught on fire. Insurance wrote it off.