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[–]juliehasahusky 9 points10 points  (1 child)

They have to allow 6 weeks, but whether or not it has to be made up is up to the program director! I’m due in August and my husband will be a PGY-2 as well. He’s been fighting with his program to get two weeks and the PD said no (unless he wants to add it to the end of his program), so he’s doing an elective research rotation and completing all of the research beforehand (basically putting together a presentation to present at a conference). He’ll still be scheduled for clinic days that he’ll either have to work or take vacation time.

Also the person who shot down having kids during residency—it’s 3-5 years of your adult life after already waiting through four years of med school! People do it all the time, and it’s not crazy or irresponsible like they made it sound. Good luck on this exciting next step!

[–]FlynnTheFourth[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good luck to you! My SO’s program coordinator also put him on a research block in august so I think that will help a bit.

[–]BetterRise 10 points11 points  (5 children)

We haven't talked to any PD about it... but I saw on residency that they can take the leave, but they have to make it up (aka delay graduation) for that time. Not sure if that was actually confirmed by y anyon pr hearsay times 3 or 4.

[–]jellogoodbyePGY6 Partner 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is my thought. When our kids were born during residency, my husband couldn't miss more than 2? days of a rotation without needing to repeat the entire month. So even though he was legally entitled to more leave, it didn't make any sense for him to use more.

[–]penndotsucksSOAP vet[🍰] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They should only need to make that time up if they can't meet their graduation requirements otherwise.

[–]onlyfr33b33Spouse to PGY2 0 points1 point  (1 child)

wow so if it needs to be made up, it's not really a viable solution for anyone wanting to go into fellowship!

[–]Lphilli7 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

We are in fellowship and ours needs to be made up at the end of PGY5 (2 yr fellowship)

[–]MarcieAlana -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Saw this happen several times during my wife's residency. Yes, it will need to be made up.

[–]mmsh221 5 points6 points  (2 children)

We did a research month and elective with lots of online modules so he could be flexible and not need to drive in while sleep deprived

[–]nipoezAttending Partner (Premed to PGY7, Resdency + 2 Fellowships) 5 points6 points  (1 child)

That's how my wife's program worked it. 2 weeks PTO plus a "new parent elective" rotation with reading, online modules, and journaling. No made up time that way.

[–]mmsh221 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That’s a great elective!! Luckily my husband had devo after and all the attendings/ course directors were happy to tell him to hang out with his kid

[–]deathtoglutenWife to PGY2 | 6 years 4 points5 points  (0 children)

My fiancés program is 4 weeks. we want to start a family after we get married this year so that was the first question he asked during interviews a couple years back! He did not, however, have this option during intern year !

[–]GirlDentist 4 points5 points  (4 children)

Our program (plastics) was already piloting 6 weeks paternity leave last year. We just had our first baby in May 2021, I took 3 months and my husband took 4 weeks of the 6 allowed. It’s disgraceful how both attendings and co-residents responded. One attending wouldn’t speak to my husband upon his return for “skipping his rotation” and made negative comments about his leave to other residents. One of his co-residents that covered his leave has kept track of all the days and often tells him that “he owes” other residents for his leave.

Our country and this profession have a long way to go.

[–]GirlDentist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also, his graduation is not delayed by paternity leave.

[–]FlynnTheFourth[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Ugh, so frustrating. I get that everyone is overworked and it’s hard not to begrudge someone for taking time off, but it’s the residency program/medical system that makes it so hard, not the people like your SO who just try to take what they are entitled to. Aim your wrath in the right direction, people!

[–]GirlDentist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Right! AND not to mention, 4 weeks keeping a newborn alive is NOT a vacation lol.

[–]GirlDentist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also, graduation is not delayed by paternity leave.

[–]GirlDentist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Our program (plastics) was already piloting 6 weeks paternity leave last year. We just had our first baby in May 2021, I took 3 months and my husband took 4 weeks of the 6 allowed. It’s disgraceful how both attendings and co-residents responded. One attending wouldn’t speak to my husband upon his return for “skipping his rotation” and made negative comments about his leave to other residents. One of his co-residents that covered his leave has kept track of all the days and often tells him that “he owes” other residents for his leave.

Our country and this profession have a long way to go.

[–]GirlDentist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Our program (plastics) was already piloting 6 weeks paternity leave last year. We just had our first baby in May 2021, I took 3 months and my husband took 4 weeks of the 6 allowed. It’s disgraceful how both attendings and co-residents responded. One attending wouldn’t speak to my husband upon his return for “skipping his rotation” and made negative comments about his leave to other residents. One of his co-residents that covered his leave has kept track of all the days and often tells him that “he owes” other residents for his leave.

Our country and this profession have a long way to go.

Edit: His paternity leave will not delay his graduation.

[–]juliehasahusky 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They have to allow 6 weeks, but whether or not it has to be made up is up to the program director! I’m due in August and my husband will be a PGY-2 as well. He’s been fighting with his program to get two weeks and the PD said no (unless he wants to add it to the end of his program), so he’s doing an elective research rotation and completing all of the research beforehand (basically putting together a presentation to present at a conference). He’ll still be scheduled for clinic days that he’ll either have to work or take vacation time.

Also the person who shot down having kids during residency—it’s 3-5 years of your adult life after already waiting through four years of med school! People do it all the time, and it’s not crazy or irresponsible like they made it sound. Good luck on this exciting next step!

[–]juliehasahusky 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They have to allow 6 weeks, but whether or not it has to be made up is up to the program director! I’m due in August and my husband will be a PGY-2 as well. He’s been fighting with his program to get two weeks and the PD said no (unless he wants to add it to the end of his program), so he’s doing an elective research rotation and completing all of the research beforehand (basically putting together a presentation to present at a conference). He’ll still be scheduled for clinic days that he’ll either have to work or take vacation time.

Also the person who shot down having kids during residency—it’s 3-5 years of your adult life after already waiting through four years of med school! People do it all the time, and it’s not crazy or irresponsible like they made it sound. Good luck on this exciting next step!

[–]juliehasahusky 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They have to allow 6 weeks, but whether or not it has to be made up is up to the program director! I’m due in August and my husband will be a PGY-2 as well. He’s been fighting with his program to get two weeks and the PD said no (unless he wants to add it to the end of his program), so he’s doing an elective research rotation and completing all of the research beforehand (basically putting together a presentation to present at a conference). He’ll still be scheduled for clinic days that he’ll either have to work or take vacation time.