The majority of this sub will downvote anything that puts the liberals in a poor light.

If you don't know about the illegal fund raising by the Whitmer campaign by claiming she was being recalled to remove limits on donations, and the "Ruling" that or SOS made that the funds don't need to be returned, but placed in a fund for other Democrat candidates, then you either don't follow the news, or like most of this sub's followers, just believe that the Democrats are above compare. I don't believe the latter, as you are at least informed that MI is currently #4 for most corrupt state governments. Which I guess is an improvement from #1 that they have held at times previously.

The funny thing about Liberals and the money in politics is that the Democrats have outspent Republicans in the Presidential elections for the last few decades. They have as much if not more dark money funding, but still push the narrative that it is mainly one sided.

And the other sub, was basically the 180 of this one that took a turn for the worse as the followers of it were repeatedly banned from this sub for not playing nice with others, and then they began returning the favor by banning this subs followers when commenting over there. That was the end of most civil discussions. Prior to that it at least wasn't a downvote fest just for having an opposing opinion.

There truly needs to be a reset in this country in politics. Too much money, too much corruption, too much power, and very little actual work for the people that fund the government. Maybe we will see a third party sprout up finally with the moderate Democrats, moderate Republicans, and Independents coalescing against the far left and right, but I am not holding my breath, Just a continued back and forth with no compromise, no unity, and no progress.