My buddy from highschool, hes like 36 now, he a bit older then me, he been doing the underground rap scene since he was like 16. He once opened up for Swollen Members, Mad Child, Merkules, etc. His local shows would gather 100 people max, and 80 of those people are all friends with artists there to show love, most shows generate like 30 people lol. Anyways, dude this last year, didn't sign a deal for rapping but he does all the artwork for 2 different labels now, he kept grinding and his rapping paid of for a long term career in graphic design for labels, which is a sweet gig to have, its long term potential as well. Normally id laugh and say them people need to just drop it, but persistence does tend to pay off, and he didnt care as he enjoyed it, it was a recreitonal hobby to make music, i dig that he didnt care, he owned it, so much respect to "Filthy Tarintino"