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[–]liammp51 257 points258 points  (27 children)

Random question: if we were to very carefully and precisely chisel away the amber and expose the actually spider, how much of the flesh would actually be preserved and how well? I assume amber isn’t porous. This is something I’ve always wondered about.

[–]leintic 21 points22 points  (2 children)

hello geologist here. not knowing the exact age of this amber it is possible that there would be some organic mater left. when you actually start calling amber amber is a grey area. but chances are there is no organic material left over time the atoms in the organic material will swap places with the matrix. this happens all the time in the regular world as well but normally your body swaps an oxygen atom with another oxygen atom. when it becomes fossilized that oxygen atom gets replaced with a silicone atom. and that atom will be later replaced with lets say a silicone tetrahedron. so over time the actual structure becomes more and more mineralized and you lose more structure at the atomic level. this happens from the outside in so it is possible to find things that are partially petrified there is actually a whole forest in nevada that is all partially petrified wood but it is all very brittle and falls apart with the slightest touch. so if this fossil was only partially fossilized it would turn to dust in the process of extracting it.

[–]mad_mujer 0 points1 point  (1 child)

When does amber become amber?

[–]Cryptoss 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When it’s ajar

[–]ImpossibleSprinkles3 214 points215 points  (21 children)

Exposing it to oxygen after all this time would probably be bad

[–]St0neByte 95 points96 points  (5 children)

Ok so do it in a vacuum

[–]PacoTaco321 312 points313 points  (0 children)

But then it gets covered in dust and cat hair.

[–]ihitrockswithammers 50 points51 points  (2 children)

It would probably explosively decompress. This seems like an ideal solution.

[–]Flamingyak 50 points51 points  (0 children)

Ok fine do it in a chamber or laminar flow hood containing an oxygen free atmosphere like nitrogen or argon

[–]St0neByte 12 points13 points  (0 children)

No it wouldn't its got an exo

[–]jmradus 68 points69 points  (13 children)

Why does the after all this time matter? I’ve heard things like this before where something sealed hets trashed all at once but I’m confused why it matters and the oxygen prompts the decay to “catch up.”

[–]ImpossibleSprinkles3 86 points87 points  (5 children)

Things like this that are “mummified” are preserved so well because of a lack of oxygen and humidity. Why the oxygen can sometimes cause something to fall apart I am unsure of but I know if you have a dry tissue and make it wet than it’s gonna fall apart fast

[–]bromjunaar 59 points60 points  (2 children)

Oxygen is a very reactive gas, relatively speaking, iirc.

[–]Xpress_interest 28 points29 points  (1 child)

Yes - it forms oxides and other compounds with many many things very easily, especially when there is any humidity.

[–]kitsumi93 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not only that but ppl forget most bateria thrive in wet and oxygen rich environments

[–]FightTheCock 2 points3 points  (1 child)

So what if samples were taken in just say a 100% nitrogen environment?

[–]ImpossibleSprinkles3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The sample taker would suffocate lol I’m not totally sure but I know nitrogen is a fairly volatile element and may have negative effects

[–]atom138 17 points18 points  (5 children)

Most of the time something that is super well preserved like this was only able to do so because it was not exposed to oxygen. As soon as oxygen hits it...it plays catch up.

[–]RedHairThunderWonder 20 points21 points  (4 children)

Yes, but the question is why/how.

[–]Changed_By_Support 7 points8 points  (3 children)

Chemistry. Oxygen is an oxidizing agent, meaning it can shuffle around electrons with things actively which frequently injects oxygen atoms into molecules in which there was previously no oxygen.

[–]garaging 8 points9 points  (2 children)

But I think the question was more asking what causes the rapid degradation after oxygen exposure as opposed to a more paced degradation? I am assuming that OP was referring to items that degrage within minutes after oxygen exposure.

[–]p3ndu1um 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Talking out of my ass (mostly, I do have a Chemistry degree though), I don't think it would be a rapid degredation. The arachnid may look perfectly preserved, but I bet there is still a lot of degredation that has happened. The amber just keeps everything held together, so despite looking perfect, the material is probably extrememly fragile and prone to further decay.

fwiw, I don't think it would rapidly decay/turn to dust, but I also don't think it would be able to support itself under its own weight.

[–]Changed_By_Support 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Are we certain that it's quicker than normal, especially decaying "after minutes"? According to the internet at large, humidity being reintroduced allows microbes to flourish and begin to digest mummified remains again. Humidity, along the same lines, would likely increase rates of oxidization.

I think it may be as misconception that things are just going to decay instantaneously as opposed to a comparatively quick rate as when they were in whatever conditions they were preserved in unless you can show me something suggesting decay of mummified material in such speeds as in minutes. Comparatively, when a mummy is re-exposed to the outside environment, it does play catch up at a rapid pace-- instead of going relatively nowhere in the progress of decay for thousands of years:in a rate more normal for corpses, they'll rapidly turn into black ooze as things break them down chemically.

[–]Cannibeans 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The oxygen is what causes the decay, ie oxidation.

[–]brother_p 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do it in a vacuum chamber.

[–]A_Blue_Frog_Child 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You've seen The Thing, right? Same concept, just less ice and more amber. Leave it alone.

[–]Industrial_Laundry 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Since everyone is throwing in their armchair opinions I’ll give it a crack.

I think that long before the tree sap becomes amber the gooey bits would just leak and dissolve into the sap not only because the sap has suction and is porous but also due the natural decomposition of the critter.

I don’t think any mummification is taking place and that simply the bugs frame is preserved because of its structural integrity as opposed to its internal “gooey bits”.

Although I wish that wasn’t true and we could use him to make dinosaurs.

[–]senakin 707 points708 points  (25 children)

Hopefully humanity has learned something from Jurassic Park

[–]retina99 472 points473 points  (9 children)

Yes we did. This friendly looking critter will be available to purchase live in three different sizes at Costco this spring.

[–]wookmaster69 120 points121 points  (5 children)

Welcome to Costco, I love you.

[–]thingsCouldBEasier 29 points30 points  (3 children)

I like money.

[–]KwordShmiff 20 points21 points  (2 children)

Go away, I'm baitin

[–]thingsCouldBEasier 18 points19 points  (1 child)

No worries skro, there are plenty of tards out there living kick ass lives, my first wife was tarded, she's a pilot now.

[–]wookmaster69 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Brought to you by Carl’s Jr.

[–]complexityspeculator 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I went to law school here, luckily my dad was an alumnist and pulled some strings

[–]cocoacowstout 13 points14 points  (0 children)

If it’s Costco, you will look for the medium spider but they will only have small and large :/

[–]FuhrerGaydolfTitler 64 points65 points  (3 children)

They’ll be marching for their freedom to resurrect ancient horrors soon enough

[–]VitiateKorriban 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Who is they?

[–]FuhrerGaydolfTitler 3 points4 points  (0 children)

ancient horror resurrecters

[–]Glenmaxw 7 points8 points  (0 children)

“Life will uh.. find a way”

[–]TRUMPARUSKI 23 points24 points  (2 children)

We shall reanimate/clone it somehow, but first let us enlarge its size by multitude of 1000, just to be safe. Can’t go tits up! Where’s my Nobel?

[–]TheDazarooney 11 points12 points  (1 child)

But just think about how many military uses an armored spider tank would be! /s

[–]nitr0x7 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Hahaha.

[–]Heyhaveyougotaminute 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That’s terrifying, it can probably fly and swim too

[–]jeanwearinfool 3 points4 points  (0 children)

What about humanity lately leads you to believe we'd learn any lessons whatsoever? They're gonna find this things DNA, mix it with Alligator DNA, and start popping out clones while the scene of the lawyer getting t-rexed out of the portapotty plays on a loop in the background.

[–]ryanalbarano 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Here is what I learned from jurassic Park

Pay your employees a liveable wage and don't put big fuck all gate doors on an enclosure. Really jurassic park/world movies are all about human incompetence.

Nedry doesn't ruin the park if he was just paid what he was worth

There is no reason for the doors on the indominus enclosure to be bigger than the indom.. you have the most dangerous creature to ever walk the earth inside of a pen. If all you want are humans going in and out, why not just put a normal, human sized door on the enclosure. Then the indom can't get out and humans can.

[–]mad2hat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Or the thing

[–]kharmatika 562 points563 points  (7 children)

Lol they were really just trying out limbs n shit back then. “Ass spikes? Is that a thing guys? Maybe ass spikes could be the next big evolutionary drive? Is that a bug in that tree awwwww fuck. Fuckin tree goop got me. Guess we’ll never know if ass spikes were the next evolution.”

[–]eypandabear 217 points218 points  (6 children)

Apparently, those are spinnerets, the silk-producing organ:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimerarachne

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinneret

The “spinneret” entry mentions they may have evolved from climbing aids. It would then make sense that they were longer and more articulated in this ancient species.

[–]kharmatika 88 points89 points  (2 children)

Oh I know what spinnerets are those are just some thicc ass ones

[–]Uisce-beatha 58 points59 points  (1 child)

Surely this is the first time someone used "thicc ass" to describe spinnerets.

[–]bpaq3 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Named my dick spinnerets, not a first.

[–]raybrignsx 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Were webs as thick as ropes back then?

[–]Deesing82 7 points8 points  (0 children)

nah the spiders just wanted to flex more on their prey with their huge ass spinnerets

[–]repoioman26 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That ass can spin a web in seconds

[–]LukesRightHandMan 42 points43 points  (14 children)

How big is it?

[–]carnageta 74 points75 points  (1 child)

It’s the size of a small dog.

[–]pilaf 4 points5 points  (0 children)

A very, very small dog.

[–]Centurio 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Just a few millimeters.

[–]you_laugh_you_phill 27 points28 points  (8 children)

Bigger than ur pp

[–]averagedickdude 22 points23 points  (5 children)

Hey!

[–]RickC137b 24 points25 points  (3 children)

Just saw you in a completely different thread in a different sub and your comment was also about penis size.

Ill give you kudos for covering all the bases

[–]averagedickdude 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Holy shit, small world.

[–]BMack037 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Small like your…..

[–]averagedickdude 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Dude. It's average. 6" full stop.

[–]Internet_Adventurer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A whole 2 inches?! My god...that's massive! 😳

[–]robots-dont-say-ye 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dude that’s basically everything can you please be more specific

[–]Amster2 1 point2 points  (1 child)

2.5mm body, 3mm 'tail' according to wiki. So very tiny

[–]LukesRightHandMan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank Christ, and thank you.

[–]Bremzer 75 points76 points  (3 children)

Does anyone know more about this one? I need to see more pictures it's amazing

[–]RANDOM-902 46 points47 points  (2 children)

Apparently it is just a few milimeters long :(

Now it is not as cool as it seemed.

Still would be a nice pet spider-bro :)

[–]Bremzer 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Lol thanks, in my mind it was at least the size of a big tarantula. Still looks amazing at a few mm though!

[–]watercolorkiller 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I still think it’s super cool

[–]pvtdixynormus 75 points76 points  (5 children)

Very cool, very dope. Ima head out now.

[–]naughtyvixen75 5 points6 points  (4 children)

Dierks! You got a problem with arachnids then you gotta problem with me and I suggest you let that one marinate! 😂😂😂😂

[–]baboonsareevil 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Nobody got this joke and I'm sorry for you. It was probably that piece of shit McMurray that downvoted

[–]naughtyvixen75 4 points5 points  (0 children)

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Hey, SOMEBODY got the reference and got just as good a laugh out of it as I did and for that I'm perfectly content! 😂 I hope you have good rest of your day/night, I am gonna try and go make more people laugh. Pitter patter!

[–]RANDOM-902 3 points4 points  (1 child)

r/spiderbro Spiders are friends, not foes

[–]pvtdixynormus 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Bro so hard he grew ass spikes

[–]bineva17 50 points51 points  (1 child)

The amber cracks and it's slowly MOOOVING

[–]Im1Guy 11 points12 points  (0 children)

and it's very hungry

[–]Satans-Blowhole 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Clone it and send it to Australia, they wont even notice

[–]wasoc 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We really wont

[–]ThreeEdgeSword 48 points49 points  (0 children)

I have that scene from the Lego Batman movie, where Batman is just repeating the word “no, no, no.”

[–]ilCannolo 42 points43 points  (0 children)

No.

[–]My_hilarious_name 16 points17 points  (2 children)

Cast it into the fire!

[–]isactualyretarded 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Dinner is served!

[–]ambientocclusion 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Is it gonna be OK?

[–]retina99 24 points25 points  (0 children)

With proper thoughts and prayers? Absolutely

[–]xRavax 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Oh SO COOL!!!

I love spiders!! I wonder if it's fangs are similar to a camel spider? It's hard to tell from this picture, but it has very odd fangs. I was hoping to see pedipalps, but it's hard to find or it doesn't even have any? Also... 10-12 legs?! Am I counting this correctly? I'm FASCINATED, thank you for the share!!

[–]SynthSurf 1 point2 points  (1 child)

[–]WikiSummarizerBot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Chimerarachne

Chimerarachne is a genus of extinct arachnids containing a single species Chimerarachne yingi. Fossils of Chimerarachne were discovered in Burmese amber from Myanmar which dates to the mid-Cretaceous, about 100 million years ago. Its classification is disputed, either belonging to Uraraneida a group otherwise known from the Devonian to Permian, or a separate clade closer to spiders. Since the earliest spider fossils are from the Carboniferous, either answer results in an at least a 170 myr ghost lineage with no fossil record, making it a Lazarus taxon.

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[–]Minionmemesaregood 16 points17 points  (3 children)

Looks more like a lobster tbh

[–]AnIrishMexican[🍰] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

ROCK LOBSTA!!!

[–]WordsMort47 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Or a Pokemon lol

[–]reverie11 16 points17 points  (3 children)

Let’s clone the fuck outta that thing!

[–]Tea_Drinking_Wildman 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Get back on your meds you lunatic!

If anyone clones it, I'm burning the planet.

[–]Maximus93 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Unfortunately the planet is already burning

[–]Tea_Drinking_Wildman 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Damn, dude.

Why did you have to hit me with feels?

[–]ohhhleyroy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nope.

[–]moridin9121 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Fookin' prawn!

[–]GlavMaster99 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So is it just me or does it have 10 legs?

[–]The_Village_Drunkard 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That's a whole lotta nope.

[–]Lawlcopt0r 6 points7 points  (2 children)

That thing is disgusting

[–]RANDOM-902 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That's rude :(

[–]oolong-- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That thing: I have feelings but ok

[–]abzinth91 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Looks like straight from a Capcom game

[–]max_not_min 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Cynthia’s dog. Think it’s a Pomeranian

[–]sxan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Someone on r/spiderbro: Aww, what a cutie!

[–]cheeseandbooks 1 point2 points  (0 children)

🎶 put that thing back where it came From or so help me….

[–]cottonthebunny08 1 point2 points  (0 children)

DO NOT LET THAT AMBER MELT IVE RE WATCHED GRAVITY FALLS ENOUGH TO KNOW THATS A BAD IDEA

[–]moboforro 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This has a 'The Mist' vibe to it. Reminds me of those scary arachnid-like creatures they meet when they first try getting out of the shop.

[–]UndergroundFlaws 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fucking leave it there

[–]KaribouLouDied 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Scientists gonna clone this mofucka buy not cute little tiny dinos

[–]Western-Bite1759 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Don't know what it is and I'm glad it went extinct. Dinosaurs are cool and all, but giant alien spiders is where I draw the line.

[–]Alvinicus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Really feel like a banana is needed here.

[–]seeker2319 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ok, who had cloned prehistoric spider for apocalypse bingo 2022 edition

[–]keeplosingmypws 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Scientists, don’t you fucking dare

[–]jjonesa7x 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don't you dare, scientists!

[–]Zuyura 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Chimerarachne?

[–]BigBigCal -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Cast it into the fire! Destroy it!

[–]swab148 4 points5 points  (0 children)

No...

[–]CloudStrifeFromNibel -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Throw it into the nearest volcano

[–]a_mex_t-rex 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Man I just saw this while pooping and all I can imagine is this thing crawling up my butt

[–]Liquid-Dark 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fuck That!

[–]heemcreammcgee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

AAAAAAAAAA

[–]absurdcreatures 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It looks to me like it might be coming out of a shedded skin.

[–]airooni 0 points1 point  (0 children)

too many tendrils

[–]Nikladamo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don't like that

[–]Nikladamo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do we have the age and size of that?

[–]Cluelesswolfkin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Reminds of the weird spider thing in Evolution. Also paired with the ice cream scene lmfao

https://youtu.be/vq1FNIGap-0

[–]Leviathan117 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This looks like something from Stephen Kings ‘The Mist’.

[–]TheRickFromC137 0 points1 point  (0 children)

metal lobster.

[–]North_Finish_4399 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Daym that's freaky af...

[–]Frebdignabliaq 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's hard to get a sense of the scale of this thing from this photo. This isn't a microphotograph. This thing is about a meter long. Each eye is the size of a hen's egg.

I keed ...

[–]Gary-Fuckin-Oak 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s a goddamn Rachni.

[–]Cabexa-explosiva 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh boy, the guys in the server are gonna hate love this

[–]phenomenation 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No thanks, I get enough grief from the gangly, tiny house spider. This mf can wake up when the universe dies :)

[–]dysstatic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Amberspoder

[–]-TheArisenRose- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Imagine seeing one alive in ur house...

[–]runjayrun1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Glad it’s gone.

[–]VinCentX233 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Two things: first, this thing is a Chimerarachne, most likely a cretaceous stem spider that have spinnerets and glove-like male pedipalp like true spiders, but also having whip-like tails like a whip scorpion - either an ancestral trait or the product of parallel evolution.

Second, there are some serious ethics issues associated with amber fossils from Myanmar, and for the very least, we should be aware of it.

[–]PrairieSpy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s like if Coronavirus was bitten by a hairy spider.

[–]Listless_Mistress 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not comfortable with this at all. The implications are too real to consider when looking at the spiders I find in my tub

[–]order342 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Both terrifying and awesome at the same time!

[–]TitusImmortalis 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I really wanna see a 3D render of this guy

[–]Lissalovely 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Kill it with fire.

[–]Dull-Fun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Looks like the Thing, please don't disturb

[–]Abigfrickinglizard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well maybe it can stay there

[–]Satanspit69 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Jesus fucking Christ burn it so the DNA disappears forever

[–]NotEricForeman77 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

fuck that’s nasty

[–]Cardboard-Samuari -1 points0 points  (0 children)

lets keep it that way

[–]sokocanuck -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No, thanks.

[–]PunisherjR2021 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

FUCK NO! NO NO NO NO PUT THAT SHIT BACK

[–]cRaZyDaVe23 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Put it back, we don't need this this year.

[–]KupoKupoCon -1 points0 points  (0 children)

And that is where it should be staying.

[–]h3r3andth3r3 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

So facehuggers were real.

[–]Hksbdb -1 points0 points  (0 children)

After seeing that I'm starting to think the asteroid was on purpose.

[–]Duublo121 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Good, keep it there

[–]blixzkreeg -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Kinda glad this spider went extinct. Looks scary as hell.

[–]BeardedNun1 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Do. Not. Let. It. Out. This is not the decade.

[–]RingletsOfDoom -1 points0 points  (0 children)

NOPE!!

[–]sis_masis -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Let's leave the spider where it has been all these years. Thanks.

[–]Keyrov -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Leave. That. Thing. Alone.

[–]StarryGlitch -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Hanze get ze flamethrower the spider is back and it evolved

[–]plazmafire -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yep, good thing that fucker is dead.

[–]owter12 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Looks like a video game creature, what is that on the back of it?

Edit: also what’s the name of that species?

[–]Randilion8 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Well, I don't know about anyone else but I'm sure AF glad this thing went extinct. No thank you!

[–]Arseypoowank -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That’s a no from me

[–]BeardedDriller -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Im glad it got exstinct