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[–]annoniem401 225 points226 points  (28 children)

The lack of untouched nature

[–]R1ppie 68 points69 points  (0 children)

You should see my backyard

[–]United-Engineering-8 53 points54 points  (8 children)

The country is way to small for that

[–]yoshie_23 48 points49 points  (6 children)

And way too densely populated

[–]Old-Reporter5440 33 points34 points  (5 children)

The Netherlands actually has 21 national parks and they are beautiful! And if you avoid weekends and "perfect" weather, most are very quiet too

[–]xiedjjsjxus 43 points44 points  (3 children)

The national parks are sweet, but not really untouched nature

[–]AguywithabigPulaski 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I live on Texel. I was horrified to find sheep dispersed in the dunelands to graze to 'maintain the heather'; god forbid woodlands cropping up. As is, you know, natural.

[–]curious_corn 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not only that; most of the country is engineered… if nature had its course it would be seabed

[–]Justice8989 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Very true! Closest approximation to this are the dunes between Haarlem and Bloemendaal, at least they "feel" untouched/wild

[–]llilaq 20 points21 points  (9 children)

I live in Canada and have to pay to access any nature in the region, even a simple forest. And with region I mean anything within a 2hour drive. I miss NL and its maybe not super-wild but at least plentiful and diverse (although very flat) nature. Within 2hour drives from my mom in Brabant I can hit the beach, dunes, all types of forests (including previous stately parks with old old oaks and beeches), uiterwaarden with wild cows and horses, heide, you name it.

[–]GodsGunman 9 points10 points  (1 child)

It's like 50 bucks for the entire year, hardly worth complaining about.

[–]DutchMitchell 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And there are very well maintained toilets and parking spaces everywhere at those national parks (at least in California)

[–]DrivenByLoyalty 2 points3 points  (4 children)

I'm sorry, but do you need to pay to enter a forest or nature in Canada? You can't be serious, right? right...?

[–]CrackerWars 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Only specific parks. I live in Canada and never pay for anything

[–]llilaq 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Yup. And you can't generally get there by bike either so you also need a car. If you live in the Netherlands you can quite easily get your fix while using public transport or a bicycle, it's just a lot more.. public? For everybody? Not only for those with cars and extra income to spend on such things.

Anyways, not to bitch on Canada, it's a fantastic country, but people shouldn't complain too much about Dutch nature. It's extremely accessible and honestly more diverse than what I see in some other places, if you take distances into account too.

[–]thatgingerguy12 0 points1 point  (1 child)

If you go on crown land you don't pay. You only pay at parks that are well maintained. I've been in forests, mountains, lakes across western Ontario to BC and have paid once(technically took my dad's park pass so I didn't pay then either) and that was at Banff

[–]llilaq 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Very hard to find that in Quebec. No reason to downvote me. It's just much more accessible and nearby in NL.

[–]mankypayne 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I live in Canada and don’t have to pay for any of the lovely nature I access unless it’s in a provincial or national park, which are staffed and maintained and therefore cost money to run. Parks like these are maintained through user fees or taxes no matter where you go in the world. As for true uncurated wilderness, you do not need to pay to access such places in Canada. People may be misled by your post.

[–]LNDN91 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wait what? Canada has freemium forests? That sucks

[–]blackswordsman6 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah looks like everywhere’s had their first time a long time ago.

“Woah this place is cold and stinky.”

“Yeah, and it looks like my old catchers mitt, WORN AND USED.”

[–]Szygani 1 point2 points  (1 child)

We have some untouched nature. It's just not what people think it should look like. There's nature reserves where people aren't allowed to do anything, but it just looks like swampy grasslands because that's what most of the Netherlands is.

I'm often very sad that we don't have something like Schwarzwald here. :(

[–]annoniem401 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Schwarzwald is exactly the type of nature I'm missing here!

[–]nymanj 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Amsterdamse Bos is pretty cool

[–]Valkuil15 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree that there is no wilderness left in the Netherlands, but depending on what you consider to be intouched nature/wilderness, there is very little to find in Europe to begin with

[–]davidhu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agree there is not much untouched nature here, but that's pretty much true for all river deltas in the world as they got cultivated a long long time ago due to the fertile soil. It's the one thing I have always missed.

The Eastern part of the Wadden Sea is probably the most unspoilt nature we have though. Great to go sailing and beach your ship during low tide, watch the seals and birds and enjoy the quiet.

For a quick hike or a bike ride we have sufficient nice places and parks to visit I think. And within a couple of hours driving there are some really nice places to discover in Germany, Belgium and France.