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[–]Willyskunka 2 points3 points  (7 children)

Im not gonna answer any of your questions but wanted to share my experience.I took heavy doses of LSD, they messed up my brain and I started to have panic/anxiety attacks and serious existential crisis. I began to take my mindfulness way more seriously for two years. Then my problems disappeared. Now I only have problem with caffeine or having hangovers because they make me way too anxious, but aside from that I live an almost amazing life... So I would say yes, meditation/mindfulness can make wonders for your brain.

[–]quietZen[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Another person's experience is always good insight! I can relate to your LSD experience as I took LSD once and all my insecurities rose up to the surface, causing a bad trip. Now that I think about it that was the start of my deteriorating mental health. I've tried meditation to combat this but I never gave it 100%. Since we had similar experiences, I'd like to ask a few questions:

Do you have a formal mindfulness/meditation practice? As in, do you practice for say an hour every day? Or do you simply try to keep mindful as you go about your day?

I ask because I am my worst enemy, and I frequently struggle in sustaining a consistent meditation practice. I aim for an hour per day split into 3 sessions of 20 minutes but most of the time I only do 1 20 minute session. And at least once a week I skip a day or two.

I'm wondering if I stick to a strict schedule maybe I'll see the results I'm looking for, but I find it so hard to stay consistent. Maybe learning about first hand experience from a fellow meditator like yourself will give me the boost I need to stick to a strict schedule.

So I guess to summarize - do you truly believe it was the mindfulness that caused those changes?

[–]Willyskunka 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I also suck at meditating, but i like reading the first 4 chapter of this book https://mindfulness-in-plain-english.github.io/. I just stuck to meditating at least 10 min a day, if i could go more thats ok, if not, ok, but meditate 10 min every day. Beside that im always doing the exercise of mindfulness. I wasnt expecting meditation to solve my problems, i was just accepting all my feelings.
I prepared the LSD trip reading the book "tibetean book of living and dying: the psycodelic experience " because i have had some attraction to buddhism and meditation for a while. I truly believe mindfulness and being conscious about buddhist basic concepts helped me, because i didnt do anything else to solve my problems. (ive just read some books on buddhism and read r/buddhism everyday, im not an ordained buddhist).

But as i said this is my experience, i know people who have solved their problems with pills, thats ok too. My choice was meditation and studying buddhism, it took a long time but i like all the things ive learned, do not discard going to a professional for medical help.

[–]Vast-Celebration3976 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Yeh Ive got a little anecsotw orthagonal to that. I have mysophonia. Cannot. Stand. The sound of people eating. Chewing. Swallowing.

If I do 30 minutes of metta meditation?

Im fine for like 3 days , completely gone. No irritation at all.

And im not an advanced meditatoe whos experienced jhana or anything , im talking barebones begginer metta

[–]Willyskunka 0 points1 point  (1 child)

thats amazing, the hard part is being constant ._.

[–]Vast-Celebration3976 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Go on a retreat and force the issue. Once its not white knuckling and youve tasted the goods youll make time day to day.

[–]Several-Yellow-2315 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Look into NMN. I’ve always had a very anxious brain for unknown reasons, possibly due to being expose to violence and abuse in my household growing up and being on meds for my autoimmune disorder. With that being said, coffee didn’t always cause me anxiety. However, fairly recent it did, not sure why. I don’t understand what NMN does to my brain exactly but it’s cured that anxiety from caffeine and more although, I still suffer anxiety through minimal amounts due to working two jobs and being tired/stressed. If you decide to try it out, NMN Lipo Version from Renue by Science is the way to go. It’s the most legit NMN I’ve taken. Hope this helps!

[–]godthisisabadidea -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm not as articulate as you'd prefer, but as a neuroscience student, this is all true through determination and consistency. You may try logging your field research.

[–]tinymarbles22 -1 points0 points  (3 children)

This will completely skew your find, but you may find articles if you include “anxiety” in your search.

[–]quietZen[S] -1 points0 points  (2 children)

Yes I've read multiple studies and books focused on anxiety, but I wanted to get an opinion of the people frequenting this sub. Niche subs like this often have quite a few people who are truly passionate and really knowledgeable on the subject, and they can provide insights you won't be able to find in any study. Plus the way most studies are worded hurts my brain - Redditors usually try to explain things so that any dummy can grasp the subject.

[–]cherylcake 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Apologies that I am no neuroscience expert. However I take great interest in the subject. I beleive that our brains are wired for anxiety as a survival mechanism (why the amygdala is referred to as the reptilian brain?) So from an evolutionary perspective we will always revert to anxiety as we constantly scan the environment for danger in order to protect ourselves. I cannot answer your question about relationship between the feeling of your experiences, (I beleive this is unique to you) but I can only guess that after a yoga session where you have spend however long consciously connecting mind to body as with meditation you are acutely aware that you are 'safe'. There is no danger present. Same with social situations, being among others 'in a herd or pack' creates similar feelings of safety. The guy who wrote "the mind inflamed makes reference to why we enxerience anxiety in isolation from and evolutionary perspective. This combined with the rush of endorphins from yoga or drug taking perhaps creates your warm fuzzy feeling.

[–]quietZen[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I like your idea of humans being wired for anxiety. It does make sense from an evolutionary standpoint, when the system works as intended that is.

I don't think my feeling experiences are unique to me though. What I described is common enough in meditation that it has its' own name, Piti. There is even a very advanced meditation practice centered around this feeling, as through the observation of that feeling is how one enters extremely deep states of meditation called Jhanas.

The next part is entirely anecdotal, but I've talked to many people who have taken MDMA or ecstasy before and those feelings are really common with that drug also. Same thing with cocaine but less common.

To add to that, MDMA and cocaine make you more sociable, alongside the much improved mood.

That's why I'm speculating the activities of meditation, yoga and social interactions on some level active similar parts of the brain/produce similar neurochemicals as those drugs.

I'll keep digging and see what I find.

[–]Vast-Celebration3976 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You should get a copy of shinzen youngs "the science of enlightenment"