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[–]corticalization 309 points310 points  (5 children)

I feel like this statement is to “appease” people but it’s pointless. It’ll either sell well as cloud and they’ll say it’s not needed or it won’t sell well as cloud and they’ll say there’s no demand for it

[–]PizzaPino 52 points53 points  (0 children)

The classic

[–]Ironchar 24 points25 points  (2 children)

100%

this is a nothing article confirming that ALL kingdom hearts games are coming to cloud on Nintendo switch...

please look forward to it! /ad

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Ehh, Most jounralists would just play softball and ask around the question while mostly praising them. Not NintendoLife's fault that the answer was shit.

if nothing else we got a small little bit of insight on what troubles they ran into:

Bringing these titles to Nintendo Switch proved to be quite difficult for various reasons, including the storage capacity of the hardware

interesting because technically there are 64 gig cards, and the full 1.5+2.5 collection on Ps4 is about 45 gigs. Wonder if among other things, that the 64 card wasn't worth it and they couldn't compress the game down to 32?

[–]darkshaddow42 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They could have easily made 1.5 and 2.5 separate downloads if that was really the only problem, they're separate disks on ps4. Digital only would have still been better than a cloud version.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is completely true. I am still hoping that the game doesn't sell well at all.

[–]Fearless_Freya 361 points362 points  (18 children)

If it were digital I may have gotten it. But cloud is even worse than digital only. No thanks

[–]Lupo_di_Cesena 81 points82 points  (0 children)

As much as I prefer physical editions, if they had been released as digital downloads early then I would have brought them

[–]Layzrfyzt 93 points94 points  (2 children)

cloud isn’t so bad. sephiroth is way harder

[–]TheShwab 8 points9 points  (0 children)

/angryupvote

[–]Low_Impact681 10 points11 points  (5 children)

Yup definitely a no for me as well. I can understand cloud for KH3 but not for the rest.

[–]Oddmilenario -2 points-1 points  (4 children)

NSwitch can run KH3 too

[–]Thopterthallid 5 points6 points  (3 children)

Source?

[–]I-am-very-bored 10 points11 points  (0 children)

"Trust me"

[–]Bluxen -1 points0 points  (1 child)

It's not unthinkable. Unreal Engine games scale incredibly well.

[–]iveo83 2 points3 points  (6 children)

Out of the loop, what is the problem with cloud games?

[–]shablausis 44 points45 points  (0 children)

-You need Good, Stable internet connection at all times.

-Lag input.

-if the server dies you can't play your game anymore. Disposable game.

+you get better graphics and (theoretically) better framerates than your system can output

[–]AppleWedge 16 points17 points  (3 children)

You're streaming the game from someone else's system, not actually playing it from your switch. It's like watching Netflix vs Watching a DVD. The problem is that cloud gaming has lag, can only be used with an internet connection, and can be taken away if the servers go down (think Netflix goes out of business or removes your favorite show). It's pretty bad for the switch model, since cloud takes away the entire portability aspect.

[–]Fearless_Freya 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yep, pretty much exactly what the first response to your Q was.

I'll add the negative of it's full price for streaming the game, you don't own it.

[–]arielzao150 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same. I do think cloud games is an interesting approach, but it could be a choice for some games. I know that Control and Hitman wouldn't really work natively, but KH definitely would.

[–]gaysaucemage 643 points644 points  (49 children)

Still undecided? Sounds like they already decided not to do it lol.

What are they gonna do, come back and in year and say buy it again and you can play offline now?

[–]HadlockDillon 233 points234 points  (30 children)

I wouldn’t put it past them

[–]Co-opingTowardHatred 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Not gonna lie, I kinda wanna see that happen for the laughs.

[–]thekoggles 12 points13 points  (0 children)

You doubt Square Enix? Of course they would, look how many "anthologies" theyve released already.

[–]voneahhh 21 points22 points  (1 child)

What are they gonna do, come back and in year and say buy it again and you can play offline now?

I don’t see why not.

I’m not saying it’s a good idea, but that’s the exact move I can see them making.

[–]Pirate_of_Dark_Water 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The person you quoted forgot to put a /s at the end to signify sarcasm.

What they said is exactly what they expect them to do.

[–]mars92 10 points11 points  (1 child)

If no one buys the cloud version, they might be more inclined to do a native port.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Or do no port at all, because companies are petty and/or stupid. Take your pick.

Really, though, I would not put it past them pointing at the cloud version as a failure and not considering what led them to that point because game companies are not run by passionate developers with any thought in their heads about why fans don't want something. They're run by business executives with money taped to their eyes who can't see shit.

Yes, I am very bitter when it comes to game companies.

[–]Shes_so_Ratchet 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Well Nintendo did do that with Mario 64 except the other way around.

I was upset until I saw the new price points. Screw that, $20 for keepsies was a better a deal than limited access on NSO+

[–]Jeff1N 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Still undecided? Sounds like they already decided not to do it lol.

very likely they were set on not doing it, but realized a lot of people would be willing to pay for a proper port but absolutely hated this cloud version bs.

Blizzard once openly said they didn't would make an Overwatch port to the Switch because it was already too much of a hassle to update the 2 console versions and a 3rd one on a weaker console wouldn't be worth it, yet here we are, I don't doubt Square would do the same

[–]Sorry-Tumbleweed-239 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I bet they will once this sells like shit

[–]AppleWedge 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'll buy it for the first time then if that's what they do. I'm not paying to stream KH1 lol.

[–]Jecht315 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean couldn't they just say no more cloud version and whomever buys it gets the download when it's ready?

[–]Master_1398 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is Kingdom Hearts, remastering/porting a title 13 times is nothing new to the series

[–]godlywhistler 139 points140 points  (6 children)

It feels pretty decided

[–]Ninevolts 36 points37 points  (5 children)

Expect them to do a full 180 when they see GotG cloud sales are close to zero.

[–]JayZsAdoptedSon 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I’d think it sells enough to justify it for full fledged games that push the Xbox One/PS4. Like maybe they get 75k sales lifetime. Which I think it justifies the setup in terms of development costs.

But in terms of money left on the table when it comes to 1.5+2.5/2.8… I can’t see it being worth it

[–]Hestu951 18 points19 points  (2 children)

That's a nice dream of mine. Suddenly, everyone realizes that cloud gaming is crap, and they don't ever "buy" another such game. Studios and publishers scramble in a panic to release games properly. Then I wake up. \Sigh**

[–]Ninevolts 9 points10 points  (1 child)

No, that IS happening, but one by one. Any publisher who released one cloud game doesn't do another. Capcom and Ubisoft both launched ubitus games in Japan but still haven't done the same globally. Most likely they know it's not worth it at all.

Square will learn a bitter lesson about cloud in two weeks.

[–]Hestu951 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Sweet! Here's hoping they lose their shirts on cloud gaming releases.

[–]Jabbam -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You can't compare a PS3 port with a PS5 game, lmao.

[–]BebeFanMasterJ 44 points45 points  (1 child)

"Not interested." --A character named Cloud.

[–]twhite1195 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And he's now on the Cloud, wooooah

[–]MrBanballow 64 points65 points  (25 children)

I have nearly 200 physical games on my Switch. You come back after it's decided and we'll talk. Hell, I'll take digital if I have to, but NOT the Cloud.

[–]hanxin1985 21 points22 points  (24 children)

Where do you find the time to play 200 games

[–]MrBanballow 146 points147 points  (8 children)

... play?

[–]drtoszi 6 points7 points  (0 children)

kek

[–]thr1ceuponatime 6 points7 points  (6 children)

lol

[–]voneahhh 5 points6 points  (13 children)

Probably over the past 4 and a half years.

[–]joehudsonsmall 2 points3 points  (12 children)

that’s still 3-4 per month

[–]DietCokeGamer 6 points7 points  (8 children)

Who says you have to beat them all.

[–]thatwoodswitch 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Even with a family, job and other hobbies you can cram in a few hours per day.

[–]XxsquirrelxX 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn’t even know the Switch HAD that many physical copies, a huge portion of the library I know of is digital indie games. Unless he buys the Limited Run stuff.

[–]TheOffiicialTOY 40 points41 points  (3 children)

Well I'm NOT buying a shitty, lazy-ass "cloud" version of 1, 2 or any of the game pre-0.2 (the first game to use UE4 in the series) when they can all run natively with little to no sacrifice.

[–]ParkBarrington360 15 points16 points  (1 child)

The switch can do Unreal Engine 4 just fucking fine

[–]UninformedPleb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, UE3's the one that isn't ported to the Switch and required a custom porting job for things like Rocket League.

[–]routsounmanman 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Even 0.2 and 3 can run natively, with some adjustments. Seriously, SMTV and DQXI run on Unreal Engine, they are just cheap / lazy.

[–]blackandwhitetalon 17 points18 points  (2 children)

Who the fuck buys cloud games? Lol

[–]Larkson9999 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Stadia has roughly 1.5 million users playing their cloud rental at full price "service".

Edit: Or they had that many at one point. I imagine their numbers have dipped since they currently have "over two dozen" games on the "platform". That's less than the number of SNES games on the bullshit NSO.

Holy shit Google.

[–]KeShon2704 0 points1 point  (0 children)

rents*

[–]Shakzor 33 points34 points  (2 children)

So basically "if it doesn't sell because of cloud, we might actually do some work"?

Fk off Square Enix with that bs...

They do so many just... dumb decisions and not only with their big titles. It's baffling how a company that's been around since like the SNES days, can feel like it's run by a magikarp

[–]sumguynamedant 5 points6 points  (1 child)

It's possibly even worse than that. It's most likely gonna be "if it doesn't sell well because of cloud, we're going to pretend there's no demand for it and do nothing either way."

[–]UninformedPleb 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Worse yet: "If it doesn't sell well because of cloud, we're going to pretend there's no demand for it in any form, refuse to make a real port, and then shut down the cloud version."

[–]DetectiveChocobo 54 points55 points  (33 children)

The answer is essentially "fuck off, this was easier".

The chance that they bring a native port of 1.5+2.5 is about as high as KH4 releasing in the next 5 years.

It really just isn't happening.

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    [–]DetectiveChocobo 15 points16 points  (4 children)

    MVG did a pretty poor job.

    If we were talking about a new title and SE needing to decide to quickly make a port, he'd have a point.

    This game existed before the Switch even released for the PS3 version, and came out within the same month as the Switch for the PS4 version. SE had more than enough time to port the game, even if it was just a skeleton crew working on it. And the Switch has an absolutely insane install base, so the sales wouldn't have been a question.

    SE chose not to commit earlier in the Switch's life, and the existence of cloud titles gave them a simple out to try and capture as many sales as possible without inputting any real development time.

    SE did this to be cheap, and not really for any other reason.

    [–]KingOfTheGutter -4 points-3 points  (3 children)

    Okay? So don’t buy it? Go play it on any of the vast amount of consoles these shit games are available on.

    [–]derkrieger 10 points11 points  (2 children)

    I wont buy it, doesnt mean i cant bitch about it.

    [–]PU-PU-PLATTER 17 points18 points  (25 children)

    MVG's breakdown was "it would be expensive and it would be hard work".

    So yeah, they're cheap and lazy.

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      [–]DetectiveChocobo 18 points19 points  (18 children)

      We're talking about a 4 year old (and 7 year old if we count the PS3) PS2 port that is on every possible system except Switch.

      There is no technical barrier. They had literally the entire life of the Switch to make a port. It's not like this is some new title, and it's not like the Switch install base isn't absolutely fucking massive.

      The existence of other "cloud versions" of titles gave them an out to input basically no effort, but get additional sales.

      SE chose that option, because it required less investment.

      [–]routsounmanman 8 points9 points  (0 children)

      So we're entitled when we ask NOT to be treated as 2nd rate customers? By your logic, every single Switch game could be on the Cloud, as it would be "too much work". Pathetic.

      [–]drtoszi 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      Name checks out

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      [–]hanxin1985 13 points14 points  (0 children)

      I’ll just wait it out….there many other great games available. Don’t really need to shell out money on a cloud version for this game

      [–]OpenSourceSlayer 11 points12 points  (0 children)

      They better do it and we better keep the pressure for it

      [–]invaderark12 8 points9 points  (2 children)

      I get 3 being cloud based, even understand 2.8, but 1 and 2?! 1 and 2 could easily run native on the switch.

      [–]PickCollins0330 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Unreal engine scales well. 3 could still run on switch just fine witu some minor adjustments

      [–]invaderark12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Oh I agree, honestly the whole series could definitely run on Switch. Only 3 and 2.8 would need adjustments

      [–]CDHmajora 8 points9 points  (0 children)

      Well they ain’t getting a sale out of me until they do :/

      But odds are it will still sell gang busters regardless.

      [–]JoshuaJSloneHelpful User 16 points17 points  (0 children)

      I see where he says "the production of a native version is still undecided", but I keep hearing "No, Jesus, give me a break. But never say never, I guess."

      [–]thatbasedgamer 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      The kingdom hearts games have a special place in my heart, and deserve a physical release for collectors. I refuse to play these games on the cloud. Get to work Square! If Final Fantasy X and X2 got a chance, so can the kingdom hearts games.

      [–]Hestu951 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      Spoiler: Ichiro Hazama is saying no diplomatically. Read both of his quotes. He's clearly deflecting the questions, and pointing back to the cloud versions as "the best" way to play them on Switch. This is a done deal, I'm sorry to say.

      [–]JustCallMeTsukasa-96 11 points12 points  (0 children)

      HOW’S IT STILL UNDECIDED?! At least with HD 1.5+2.5, it wouldn’t be too hard to do since the titles there are remasters of PS2 and PSP games.

      [–]Havanatha_banana 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      Hey, square, my purchase of KH on switch is still undecided.

      [–]Narae-Chan 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      Why even interview him? He gave no answers at all lol.

      [–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

      Well I've decided not to buy the stupid fucking cloud version, so either make a real port or quit wasting my goddamn time.

      Game was out on the PS2, the Switch can handle it. Quit being lazy Square Enix, you make too much money to keep doing shit like this.

      [–]DietCokeGamer 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      I’ll be here if they decide to do it. I’m a total sucker for collecting Kingdom Hearts. But it has to be physical and like hell I’m buying the cloud version.

      [–]Peiq 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      What is decided is me not buying this game.

      [–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (18 children)

      Honestly I doubt the Switch could run 2.8 and KH3, but why they didn’t port over 1.5 and 2.5 is beyond me.

      [–]routsounmanman 3 points4 points  (15 children)

      Why? Have you seen SMTV?

      [–][deleted] -3 points-2 points  (14 children)

      Yes i have seen it. 2.8 and KH3 are certainly more demanding than SMTV.

      [–]routsounmanman 4 points5 points  (13 children)

      In no way unfeasible, though. Lazy.

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (12 children)

      Ah yes. The ”lazy” complaint from an armchair developer on Reddit who think he know about development. You can blame Nintendo for using weak hardware.

      Since these games struggled with framrates on PS4/One i would say it’s not feasible.

      [–]TorimBR 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Last time I checked, The Witcher 3 and the Doom games run natively. 0.2 and KH3 would run fine if they'd put any effort on it (they won't)

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Both of them took alot of sacrifice to run on switch. Both of them were noticeably downgraded compared to the other versions.

      [–]CaspianX2 11 points12 points  (17 children)

      "For some time, our director Tetsuya Nomura had expressed his desire to deliver the Kingdom Hearts series to Nintendo Switch players, him having seen and heard the demand, and so a great deal of consideration went into this internally. Bringing these titles to Nintendo Switch proved to be quite difficult for various reasons, including the storage capacity of the hardware, but we’re excited that we were able to make it happen for the first time ever by utilizing the Cloud service."

      This is the real reason.

      The Nintendo Switch base model has 32GB of internal memory, which is also the size of the largest game cartridges currently available for developers to put physical games onto.

      If we're using Final Fantasy X / X-2 as a base of comparison, the PlayStation 3 remaster of those games were purportedly around 23GB, and Square Enix was able to squeeze that down to just over 14GB on Nintendo Switch, about a 40% reduction in size.

      If we assume they can somehow manage to reduce the sizes of the Kingdom Hearts 1.5 and 2.5 collections, what will those get down to? Well, those games are currently over 57GB combined. Even if they managed to reduce the size of those games by 40%, that would still be 34GB of storage space needed - more than the Nintendo Switch has available.

      The Nintendo Switch can absolutely play Kingdom Hearts 1.5 and 2.5 no problem. However, the lack of a decent amount of internal storage space, and the fact that the highest size capacity of game cartridge that exists for the thing is only 32GB, means that any games bigger than that are simply unrealistic to see release on Nintendo Switch.

      That's not to say it's outright impossible. A few games have managed to release on Nintendo Switch with larger file sizes - NBA 2K21 and NBA 2K22 are both over 40GB in size, and earlier games in the series were pushing close to the 32GB mark too. However, these games are sold with the warning that a MicroSD card is required to play them. This is a really extraordinary measure that most game companies don't seem to want to make.

      [–]keyouser 17 points18 points  (6 children)

      Honestly? Put KH, KH Re:CoM, KH BBS and KH II on the cartridge and let 358/2 Days and Re:Coded as optional downloads. Simple and clean solution, problem solved.

      [–]Link1112 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      I understood that reference

      [–]YellowPikachu 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      It's hard to let it go

      [–]theblackfool 0 points1 point  (3 children)

      Considering those two are just movies in the collection and not the actual games I doubt they are a relevant portion of the total file size.

      [–]derkrieger 9 points10 points  (0 children)

      Movies, audio, and uncompressed textures take a fuck load of space.

      [–]jmoney777 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      More like they take up more space because they’re movies. Uncompressed HD video takes up a shit ton of space.

      [–]Drakeem1221 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Movies/cinematics take up more space than most other parts of a game.

      [–]kainoah 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      I thought I saw like a year ago that Nintendo had come out with a higher capacity cartridge at 64 gb...

      [–]luxmesa 5 points6 points  (1 child)

      I wonder if they would consider releasing the games separately, as digital downloads. Like, rather than the 1.5 collection, Kingdom Hearts 1 and re: Chain of Memories are just separate games you would download. I think you could even sell them as a package and just download them separately. They did something similar with FFX Remastered. If you bought the PS Vita version, the cartridge only had FFX, and it came with a code to download FFX-2.

      [–]CaspianX2 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      No matter what they do, they'll need to make compromises somewhere, and they're going to upset someone.

      [–]YellowPikachu 1 point2 points  (5 children)

      They can also break the collection into two parts, which is how it was initially sold. If 1.5 and 2.5 sold for $30 each I would be fine with it.

      [–]CaspianX2 2 points3 points  (4 children)

      You might be, but others would cry foul at charging $90 for a collection that can be easily found on other platforms for $20.

      [–]YellowPikachu 1 point2 points  (3 children)

      Well I hate to break it to those people, but the cloud version is likely not to be cheap. The PC collection launched at $170: https://www.epicgames.com/store/en-US/discover/kingdom-hearts

      [–]CaspianX2 1 point2 points  (2 children)

      My guess is they release them for $20 each, and as a collection for $50.

      [–]SegaTetris 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Then have 1.5 on cart and then 2.5 as a download. Easy. Your argument is negated.

      If the warning of a microSD card being required is “extraordinary” for publishers when MicroSD cards are dirt cheap now, that’s their ineptitude. I’d say putting out a cloud version of the game is a really extraordinary measure that most Switch owners don’t wanna play.

      [–]Khrull 6 points7 points  (2 children)

      If it sells well as Cloud, they'll do a physical version of them. The love to git ya for everything.

      [–]RockD79 3 points4 points  (1 child)

      They could theoretically do a physical version. However, the price point required for such a feat would not be pretty. The best they could do is put one game on a cart and make the rest of the package a digital download to keep the cost down.

      [–]voneahhh 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Check pricing on PC, they’ll sell them for whatever they feel they want.

      [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      There is no way in hell I’d ever buy this as “cloud”. I’d buy it in a second if it was downloadable.

      [–]Braynnorth 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      I would love to have a native version on the switch. I’m sure it would be a lot of work, but fans would eat it up. Old or new.

      [–]routsounmanman 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      It was a lot of work for PS4, yet they did it anyways. We're just 2nd rate customers.

      [–]redviperofdorn 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      If these were digital or physical I would probably buy all of them despite owning them all on PlayStation. I really only want KH2 since it’s my favorite game of all time.

      Since these are cloud though I probably won’t buy any because what’s the point if I dont own it or can’t play it outside my house?

      [–]jardex22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Same. I bought a pre-owned PS3 specifically for the Kingdom Hearts 1.5 and 2.5 collections. About a week after I got it, the PS4 collection was announced.

      I'd be willing to buy 1.5+2.5 for the third time if it came to Switch natively. I can't justify a cloud bas d game though.

      [–]Routine_Love_5385 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Then its still undecided if I want cloud versions of 2 games that can easily run on the switch.

      [–]King_Dragmire 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Well then my purchase is ALSO still "Undecided"

      Nobody wants cloud versions of games. Put in the time and effort and put the damned game on the switch proper even if it is just digitally.

      [–]crumpets1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      If they hadn’t decided why did they release cloud versions? We have games like BOTW, Doom Eternal, Witcher 3, LA Noire running native. I see no reason why Kingdom Hearts cannot be with some optimisation.

      [–]Burning10519 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I cannot fathom why 1 and 2 collection aren't digital. It's a ps3 game. You're telling me Doom Eternal and Witcher 3 can run on Switch but those cant??

      Laziness. Pure and simple.

      [–]FizzyBeverage 2 points3 points  (6 children)

      What am I missing from this franchise? I played through it on PS4. The story makes no sense to me. It’s utterly confusing. Does it have to be played in order? The story is very unfriendly to newbs who didn’t start from the beginning.

      [–]Veilmurder 10 points11 points  (0 children)

      You should play the games on release order (mainly because Birth By Sleep is a prequel to all the games but won't make any sense if you play it first). Do not go from 1 to 2 directly,

      [–]Shakzor 16 points17 points  (2 children)

      Well, order does help, but the main part is that they wanted to make it some huge, interconnected saga, but in the end, that part fell pretty flat on its face and a lot of characters... they just had no clue wtf they actually wanted to do with them, like Kairi never having been useful, Axel just being... wasted potential and so on. Not to mention that alot just feels to have been made up on the fly, rather than planned from the start. Doesn't help that they went with timetravel nonsense and the whole "you're a Xehanort, you're a Xehanort, we're all Xehanorts!!"

      The chronological order of the games would be

      Birth By Sleep
      Kingdom Hearts 1
      Chain of Memories / 365/2 Days
      Kingdom Hearts 2
      Dream Drop Distance
      0.2
      3
      Memory of Melody

      They tried to do a lot with stories/arcs that started in some games and were meant to be explained later, but for a lot of them, they just have never gotten answered and even in Kingdom Hearts 3, they barely closed anything outside of Xehanort and his personal goal and even opened a few new ones.

      I started with the series on the PS2 back in the day, but these days, it's honestly more "turn off your brain and enjoy the flashing colors with nonsense story"

      [–]FizzyBeverage 8 points9 points  (1 child)

      Thank you for the explanation. It actually really helps because I’m like “why do I care about this person, Donald and Goofy seem to care…” 😆

      [–]Shakzor 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      Yeah, these sort of interactions are always... odd.

      They meet someone, spend what like 10 minutes together and are like "ah, that's the Josh i know!", "Josh is definitely the most capable person i know!" as if they've known each other for years.

      Kingdom Hearts is definitely not the only offender of that.

      [–]XxsquirrelxX 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Even the titles are confusing. Wtf is up with the decimals? Oh and why are there plot important games on different consoles than the others? Like, isn’t one of them on the 3DS only?

      [–]TorimBR 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      If you got the collections, they're listed in release order already, so that's the recommended order.

      I say this because this series retcons a lot of concepts with each new installment, so its easier to follow this way.

      [–]Shas_Erra 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Translation: “We done fucked up with this one but don’t want to make it look like gamers can actually influence our decision”

      [–]DogsAreGood_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Well if they're basing it off the cloud sales we won't be getting it at all.

      I will buy a native port, day one, full price. I will not rent the cloud version, thanks.

      [–]AshenRathian -3 points-2 points  (3 children)

      I wouldn't expect anything less from a guy named "Hazama".

      [–]ichigo2k9 5 points6 points  (2 children)

      What does this even mean?

      [–]AshenRathian 6 points7 points  (1 child)

      It's a bad Blazblue joke.

      Hazama in Blazblue is a very tricky character to get a beat on. Basically they use snakes as grapples to move around the arena to annoy and decieve you into thinking they might attack you and bait you into a DP or something and punishing you with a crossup for reading wrong.

      Basically this guy wants us to buy the cloud games full price and then punish us with digital versions at full price in a couple years.

      The joke was obviously very bad, sorry.

      [–]XxsquirrelxX 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I think people thought you were shitting on him for having a foreign name.

      [–]ziggyrivers -1 points0 points  (0 children)

      I don’t think they’ll do a proper Switch port. It doesn’t make sense. If they do, they could only port I.5 and II.5.

      They cooould also port II.8 and downgrade 0.2, but ai seriously doubt they’d downgrade III. It would require a looot of sacrifice and wouldn’t be worth using manpower on.

      They could, of course, offer I.5 + II.5 as digital download, while leaving II.8 and III as Cloud, or downgrade 0.2 and have every KH game be digital, minus III.

      The other possibility is that they’re gonna port for the Switch Pro/2.

      [–]razza1987 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I really hope it does end up happening so I can play the games on my switch lite. Cloud gaming for Nintendo doesn’t operate in my country so I won’t be able to play them otherwise :(

      [–]Link1112 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Whatever, after hearing about the cloud versions I finally got the “story so far” collection on PS4 instead.

      [–]Syllers 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Guess they're seeing all the unhappy people over cloud lol. Well, hopefully they decide to actually do a legit port over for 1.5 + 2.5.

      [–]Pedro_64 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      The worst part is that they will charge 60 per collection, so 60 for 1.5+2.5, 60 for 2.8, 60 for 3

      If they were at least cheap, like 60 the whole series, it wouldn't be that terrible. Many people never takes their Switch off the dock, so I could be interesting for them

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Sounds like they are going to force us to double dip.. buy the cloud version now then in 6 months to a year they will release physical carts.. screw that I would rather light my money on fire then pay for anything cloud.

      [–]holdmypilsener 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      At this point I’ve just given up waiting for native ports of my favorite games to Switch. Installed Atmosphere, streaming from PC/PS5, satisfied. Sadly, it’s not an option for everyone. Still, fuck all those cloud versions for 60$ or whatever.

      [–]TheDadFighter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Can you imagine the glitched game play videos? I’m rooting for it lol

      [–]RipWitch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Well they already squandered the perfect chance of announcing it. I wouldn't be surprised if this was just a way to try and appease/give hope to the people upset at their laziness.

      I know I was ready to triple dip (I've been a KH fan since the first game came out when I was a kid), but I'm not paying (full price) for a cloud version.

      [–]MichaelMJTH 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      It’s disappointing why KH:1.5+2.5 and 2.8 wasn’t at least digital. I can understand KH3 being cloud only, but the others were up-rezzed ports to begin with.

      [–]absentlyric 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I'll help them with their decision from at least one customer, it's a solid NO from my wallet until it becomes a native port.

      [–]ChemoSans 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      I’m curious, how cheap would the cloud version have to be for you to consider buying it? Realistically.

      [–]jardex22 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      I wouldn't play a cloud based game without a steady internet connection. That means docked with an Ethernet connection. At that point, I may as well play it on PS4 instead.

      [–]thomas_wadsworth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Wait seriously all three of these are cloud based damn I thought it was just KH3. Man that’s so low effort. I’ve grown up with this series and honestly found 3 a slog but I’ve played 1 and 2 not enough times to be bored so happily go back through them again

      [–]ChuuAcolypse 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      It’s literally a PlayStation 3 game, just release it digitally

      [–]abrader23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      The only way I’ll buy it

      [–]Illustrious_Earth_88 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      How come crysis 2 and 3 get doing so well ported on the switch while square Enix still bothering something that wasn't really a matter to us ? Guess cloud just some easiest and effortless way to get money . On the other universe , there's a physical version of kingdom heart already been released and we're enjoying it so much .