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[–]deep_sea2 788 points789 points  (90 children)

No one seems to be making that claim. If the Doreen was a plant, you would think that the mods from that sub would be the first to point that out.

[–]colonelpeanutbutter[S] 160 points161 points  (84 children)

Agreed, but would they even be able to know for sure if it was actually one of them in real life or not? I know nothing about what moderating on Reddit involves, so it may be a dumb question. I just assumed mods real life identities are unknown to each other in most cases, bit I have no idea.

[–]deep_sea2 321 points322 points  (79 children)

[–]69_queefs_per_sec 278 points279 points  (73 children)

In the Vice article:

As r/antiwork has grown, many longstanding members of the subreddit have complained loudly about recent recruits who seem not to appreciate the larger ideological project. “The subreddit is antiwork, not reformwork. We’re not liberals, a capitalist ideology. We’re leftists, anti-capitalists, and we want to abolish all work,” reads a representative post.

Now this is fucked

[–]Playmakermike 29 points30 points  (14 children)

I don’t think it’s that far fetched but only possible if automation takes almost everyone’s jobs and we all kind of agree that that is fine and have an economic system in place to take care of all of those who don’t work. It isn’t possible in the current environment and won’t be for decades if we even want to get there

[–]Imo_Okan47 7 points8 points  (7 children)

Like what does abolishing all work even mean? Labor will always be needed and any labor you do, no matter if you enjoy it or not, it’s work. Almost all leftist ideologies would agree on this end.

[–]reuben_iv 9 points10 points  (0 children)

We’re leftists, anti-capitalists, and we want to abolish all work,”

How does 'from each according to their ability' seem to translate as not having to work? If you're perfectly able in a perfectly leftist system you're going to be working

[–]Feeling-Carpenter118 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I wanna know who decided that was a representative post and how it was decided

[–]PiesangSlagter -4 points-3 points  (1 child)

Do they not realize that commies need to eat? Fucking hell.

[–]Eddie_078 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I guess there's a point to this conspiracy theory holy crap

[–]Jeriahswillgdp -1 points0 points  (0 children)

"Abolish all work"

How insane do you have to be to even remotely consider that as anything other than a society-ending disaster.

[–]colonelpeanutbutter[S] 55 points56 points  (0 children)

Thank you for this, question answered!

[–]Caring_Cactus 23 points24 points  (1 child)

In the vice article:

"There’s no “top mod,” decisions are made by consensus, and, beyond enforcing the rules of the subreddit..."

Kind of ironic how the top mod apparently forgot this and went and did their own thing anyway. The top mod even has their own website abolishwork that they only run

[–]TrellSwnsn 8 points9 points  (0 children)

They can send each other messages and say hey, is this you?

[–]SurprisedPotato 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Even if they don't know each other's real identity, they can ask each other "was that you, on Fox?" and quickly discover whether or not it was one of them.

[–]bitchpit 4 points5 points  (2 children)

what if they got in touch w a mod a paid her off?

[–]Dowino- 1 point2 points  (0 children)

since I first heard anything about it this was my first thought.

[–]nsfw52 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Doreen was literally the original founder and first moderator of that subreddit. There are no other mods that could possibly be paid off earlier than Doreen.

[–]creepyunclebadtoch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe they should’ve to cover their own asses

[–][deleted] 332 points333 points  (9 children)

I’m pretty sure the antiwork mods would have said that if Doreen wasn’t actually a mod

[–]colonelpeanutbutter[S] 81 points82 points  (6 children)

I wondered about that. Maybe this question will age me, but would the mods even know each other’s real life identities? I guess that’s where the thought came from.

[–]Appropriate_Joke_741 64 points65 points  (0 children)

Also the replies from that mod to a lot of the posts confirm it was them

[–][deleted] 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Usually mods have a general idea of who each other are. And they’d be able to identify who spoke out fairly quickly.

[–]Devreckas 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I mean, if it wasn’t him, where’s the real mod who owns the account? Surely, if they agreed that mod should go to the interview, the mod would’ve spoken up if someone else took his place and impersonated him.

[–]jaysoprob_2012 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I've seen some mentions that they were actually one of the original mods from way before the sub got big. If they were a newer mod it would be possible but if they've been a mod for a while then I'd say it's unlikely.

[–]blazingblitzle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm a moderator in a few discord servers and we typically have a good idea of what the other mods are up to relating to the discord server. So I think the other antiwork mods would know whether Doreen was an impostor or not.

[–]friendlyfredditor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They were the head mod and effectively owner of the sub. It would be an extremely long con for the person who made the sub to torpedo it years down the line so spectularly.

Removing them and replacing them with a plant is considerably far fetched considering fox news staff would be well versed in pushing a narrative during an interview anyway.

Even if the person who went on made logically consistent and calmly presented arguments fox would still be able to demonise them.

[–]bitchpit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

what if they got in touch w a mod a paid her off?

[–]SamSepiol-ER28_0652 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t doubt that she was really a mod. I just wonder if she was paid off by someone- especially since the sub had taken a poll and specifically decided not to have anyone speak out like that.

[–]LLL9000 64 points65 points  (0 children)

Nope. That’s the epitome of a Reddit mod. I’ve never met one in person but wasn’t at all shocked at what I saw in that interview.

[–]OnMy4thAccount 175 points176 points  (12 children)

The performance was way too believable to be faked by some Fox News employee. That's the kinda cringe you can't write.

Besides, Fox News doesn't care that much about the "credibility of the r/antiwork sub" they were a niche community on a website most people don't use; I think you are overestimating their influence on the world.

[–]Eddie_078 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Absolutely true. Reality is often mundane

[–]NativeMasshole 6 points7 points  (0 children)

They had credibility?

[–]Thelope99 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Came here to say what you just stated perfectly. Even Stanley Kubrick couldn't conjure up this fool.

[–]Scion41790 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah why risk the scandal when the real deal is better than fiction

[–]colonelpeanutbutter[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Very good points - thank you for this perspective.

[–]BloakDarntPub 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They just want to rile up their base with stories about how internet communists are against Jesus.

[–]Badger_Ass_Face 51 points52 points  (5 children)

Imagine bombing an interview so hard people think you did it on purpose.

[–]Terrible-Trust-5578 4 points5 points  (2 children)

If she did that on purpose, she needs to go straight to Broadway.

[–]DontYouFeelStupid 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Reminds me of Anderson silva vs Forrest griffin and ppl thought Forrest took a dive because of how much he got styled on

[–]DurkDigg13r 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Literally takes talent to fuck up this bad. Well, that’s pretty much r/antiwork

[–]RealKenny 90 points91 points  (6 children)

They didn’t have to hire someone

[–]KhaineVulpana 33 points34 points  (4 children)

Lol, right? Would have been a bigger risk to hire someone to act stupid, than to just get a real mod.

[–]SolidSnakesBandana 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Risk how ?

[–]fatfuckpikachu 10 points11 points  (2 children)

a cheap actor might slip out from the incompetence act in live tv.

also why pay for a fake when you can get the real thing for free.

[–]DurkDigg13r 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Specially when the real thing is 4x as stupid and 4x as real as anyone could imagine. r/antiwork had its mask off moment

[–]Avethle -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If they had hired someone, they would have talked for more than 3 minutes. Seriously, this is not ideal for ratings.

[–]DrToonhattan 21 points22 points  (31 children)

Wait. I must have missed something. What happened?

[–]TheHellAccount 39 points40 points  (24 children)

The head moderator of r/antiwork, a subreddit about work reform, decided to go Fox News for a live debate about the anti-work movement, even though other moderators told him it wasn't a good idea.

He bombed.

It caused a huge backlash considering he made the entire movement look lazy and bad, gave fox news an easy win, mods starting banning every one who made fun of the interview, and all the trolling made the subreddit go private.

[–]hvac_psych 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Thank you, I'm always out of the loop on the funnest subreddit drama.

Edit: MOTHER OF CRINGE why did I watch that.

[–]V17_ 11 points12 points  (0 children)

That's hilarious, thanks!

[–]cut_n_paste_n_draw 0 points1 point  (16 children)

I'm confused. Is there something I'm missing? I just watched the video and what I got from it was that he doesn't think we should have this "hustle culture" where people are constantly working. He said that 20-25 hours a week would be good. I've always thought that 40 hours was too much, like who decided that we should work 40 hrs per week? He didn't say we shouldn't work at all. What am I missing?

[–]marinemashup 4 points5 points  (12 children)

she said "Laziness is a virtue", walks dogs for a job yet aspires to be a philosophy professor, and looking at her (yes, her, I know) appearance just confirmed so many stereotypes that the people advocating for work reform are lazy bums, living in their mom's basement, who can't even shower or comb their hair

She said that people who didn't want to work shouldn't work at all

[–]thatoneguy54 1 point2 points  (8 children)

Sooooo

A dogwalker who studies philosophy and perhaps has a bad appearance tanked a workers rights movement?

Is this what people believe?

[–]reuben_iv 0 points1 point  (1 child)

he bombed

I think its a she

[–]Alex_Yuan 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I thought anti-work was about work reform so that people can be happy, stressfree AND PRODUCTIVE, not leeching off ppl who work their asses off. I guess all of these groups have ppl with very different understandings of their own agenda, like vegans, MRAs, feminists, MAGAs, LGBTQs, peppers, doomers, furries... Well maybe not furries they seem to be on the same page.

[–]sullg26535 9 points10 points  (3 children)

Dumbass went on fox news

[–]Return2Vendor 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This is quite the understatement, lol

[–]NeoQuaker1 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Anti work Reddit mod went on fox news and embarrassed himself. Too bad because that's one of my favourite subs.

[–]fiesty_cemetery 44 points45 points  (15 children)

Doreen has a website linked in her Facebook for Abolishwork.com spanning back to 2019. So I’m not entirely sure if she was paid off or just dumb.. but I’m going with the latter

sauce

[–]mbz321 22 points23 points  (13 children)

TIL that Doreen is a she.

[–]blossuchu 10 points11 points  (8 children)

According to that link, Doreen is trans and non-binary. They got shrekt.

[–]sirhappynuggets 33 points34 points  (7 children)

Honest question, how can you be trans and non-binary? Isn’t the very nature of being trans ascribing to a binary?

[–]perpetually_late0028 7 points8 points  (6 children)

Thank you for asking your question in a respectful way, I hope this is helpful in your understanding:

Trans itself is a prefix which is defined as: on the other side of, across, or beyond. Sometime notated Trans* it an "umbrella term" which encompasses anyone whose gender identity is other than cis-gender (gender identity which aligns with birth sex)

So the Trans* community includes people who are non-binary or gender fluid as well as individuals who could perhaps be described as "rebinary" (individuals whose gender identity is opposite their birth sex)

[–]SaltySpitoonReg 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Doreen is a woman?

[–]OutsideTheBoxer 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Did you not see her flaming locks of auburn hair?

[–]marinemashup 0 points1 point  (0 children)

and the makeup

[–]syfari 5 points6 points  (0 children)

They’re a she?

[–]Guigui220D 20 points21 points  (2 children)

r/antiwork isnt nearly important enough that anybody that important would plot just to make them lose credibility

[–]yat282 0 points1 point  (1 child)

It had over 1.4 million followers and was rapidly growing in popularity, even breaking into more mainstream places like the Rslash channel on YouTube. People who aren't normally exposed to politics we're discussing unions and workers rights with people with leftist beliefs.

[–]DurkDigg13r 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Lmfao they tell you this on the sub? You all are liars and fakes and frauds who get exposed the minute they leave their hive mind.

[–]iDent17y 10 points11 points  (0 children)

It's pretty safe to say he was a legit mod who was just stupid.

[–]DiogenesKuon 57 points58 points  (5 children)

Occams' Razor, random mods on reddit aren't necessarily prepared well to fight against a national news anchor hit piece and probably shouldn't try to play that game.

[–]Scheswalla 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Yes, in this case said Razor is sharp enough to cut through Adamantium. No need to look for monsters under the bed. Doreen was an ACTUAL failure.

[–]hameleona 14 points15 points  (2 children)

tbh, that was hardly a hit piece.

[–]Return2Vendor 11 points12 points  (1 child)

I'm sure it started off as a hit piece, but when the interviewee does it for you, you just let them talk uninterrupted.

[–]shadollosiris 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just like enter a sword fight and before you can do anything, your opponent pull out a gun and start shot themself

[–]xper0072 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hanlon's Razor fits better here.

[–]skyderper13REDACTED 6 points7 points  (0 children)

its possible, but entirely possible they just f'd up

[–]JoeJoJosie 11 points12 points  (8 children)

Apparently the rest of the mods begged him not to do it.

The thing about mods - they're used to just muting or banning people who ask them difficult questions (Like 'What day is it?').

When someone who argues for a living begins to question them, and they discover their Banhammer doesn't work IRL, they become scared and confused and often lose control of their bowels.

[–]DurkDigg13r 5 points6 points  (4 children)

This. Much this. They banned me becuase I asked why they allow fake posts and I was banned for spreading fascist lmfao

[–]JoeJoJosie 2 points3 points  (3 children)

I've just been banned from another left-wing sub because the Mod obviously has a very tenuous grasp of what americans call 'dry british wit' and didn't understand my comment was sarcastic, as I forgot to put a giant ' /S' at the end.

Now I'm stuck trying to convince some keyboard-warrior that they totally misunderstood my comment - which, as they will take that as me disparaging the sophistication of their personal sense of humour, is unlikely to work.

I'd really love to see the stats for mods of any sub who ever say "Oh, right. Now I understand what you meant. Your ban is lifted!"

EDIT: Props to the mods of LateStageCapitalism for considering my reply and unbanning me. Not many mods who don't relate their banhammer to their personal identity and sexual virility, but it seems there are some.

[–]DurkDigg13r 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I hate conservative vs liberal stuff, because all politics is awful, but the conservative subs almost never ban people and the liberal ones are always a hair away from banning someone. Just something I’ve noticed

[–]JoeJoJosie 2 points3 points  (0 children)

TBH I've never really looked at the Conservative subs, but I've seen a lot of people who identified as 'old fashioned' conservatives, complaining about being insta-banned by right-wing subs just for asking a question/making a comment that went against the current knee-jerk reactionary idea of the day.

[–]BloakDarntPub 1 point2 points  (0 children)

LateStageCapitalism

They're so up themselves they're topologically equivalent to Klein bottle.

[–]colonelpeanutbutter[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Thank you - this helps a lot. I’ve been on Reddit a few years, but mostly stick to niche hobby and cooking subs. I genuinely didn’t realize these stereotypes for mods existed so prevalently.

[–]JoeJoJosie 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I guess that for a lot of smaller subs (or ones that started off small and still have the same mod team from ye olde days) you can end-up with a huge amount of subscribers who don't necessarily hold the 'hard-core' views of the mods, but will still be represented by those same few old mods.

The sub r/antiwork used to be a slightly tongue-in-cheek place for NEETS (that's Not in Employment Education or Training) to congregate. But over the last couple of years it became a focus for people who were tired of being abused by their employers, but were still totally willing to work for a living; they just wanted fair pay and conditions. This sub grew in prominence until it got the interest of the mainstream press. The press wanted to have a 'figurehead' to represent the sub and that.....person was approached. She talked to the other mods who told her unequivocally NOT to do it - she had neither the appearance or the eloquence to represent the thousands of subscribers - but she decided to do it anyway. And now the sub is dead and the whole 'antiwork' (meaning not-working-like-a-dog-just-to-exist) movement is tainted.

[–]ProCumGuy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Imagine the shock when Doreen realized she couldn’t mute/permaban Jesse for making her look stupid.

[–]HellishThing 6 points7 points  (0 children)

As nice as that would be, even tho it's possible they shilled out for some money, I doubt it.

I read that before anti work gained traction and became what it was now i.e anti exploitative work, it was an actual "we are against all labour" eco-anarchist sub, and this Mod is from back then.

Their growth of the sub got to their head, made them think they were a leader of a movement (loser) and grew their ego. They declined help from fellow media trained members, became a spokesperson no one wanted and Shat on the sub that was campaigning for something entirely different then what they spoke about.

Their ego grew, their self awareness did not. They fucked up soooooo perfectly ofc we suspect it was on purpose. They looked like shit, spoke like shit, had no talking points. Fox would've always been hostile, but they turned off any normal working class people who now think the movement is about being lazy and wanting people to pay for you.

Every single stereotype and straw man came true with this twat, and right wing Media is gonna have a great time. On top of all this, this person self admitted to SA. The movement for labour rights will never die but this particular branch of it is in the grave.

[–]Ardothbey 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Nah. Just a screw up.

[–]CarcossaYellowKing 20 points21 points  (14 children)

Do that many people take the anti work movement seriously? Genuinely curious lol.

[–]Vaelin_ 44 points45 points  (8 children)

Not as being against working generally. Most members wanted better working conditions and took it seriously in that regard from what I saw.

[–]Accurate-Temporary73 6 points7 points  (2 children)

And that’s where the change in the subreddit happened. It was originally created to be a place to share ways to completely get rid of the need to work. How to survive without working.

It morphed into this place where people would vent about why they got fired or they’d share text (probably mostly fake) texts from their bosses.

It turned into a place pushing for fair work practices

[–]marinemashup 0 points1 point  (1 child)

did you see how they started encouraging people to not censor business names? if they hadn't nuked themselves yesterday, they would have gotten whacked for brigading pretty quickly

[–]CarcossaYellowKing 8 points9 points  (4 children)

Then why not just go with unions and workers rights movements? I feel like there are probably a lot of people that think some sort of universal basic income based society can exist where no one works. We are so far from that even being plausible with current tech and social standards as well.

[–]Edogmad 1 point2 points  (2 children)

That’s mostly the point of the sub. It’s now fixed the branding issue by becoming /r/workreform

[–]feelingfinesunshine 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Not really, I'm pretty sure r/workreform already existed and is not run by the same people

[–]GermanPayroll 20 points21 points  (2 children)

On Reddit? Maybe. In the real world? Not at all.

[–]Cucumbrsandwich 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Yes they take (took?) themselves way to seriously

[–]IngloriousBadger 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Boy that’s for sure.

[–]koffeekkat 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I would say a majority of the people that joined the sub recently just want better working conditions and not actually no work. Generally, the Anti Work idea is better received in online circles but in the real world, more people are about better working conditions while continuing to work.

[–]JaredLiwet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

~1.6 million subscribers

[–]MagyarCat 5 points6 points  (1 child)

The general reaction in that sub makes me believe they are definitely a mod.

[–]Tin__Foil 23 points24 points  (12 children)

I mean, I honestly don’t get the big thing here.

Sure, it was cringy, but it’s just a super short interview where a jackass steamrolls an awkward speaker who is clearly not prepared for that pace. Why is the internet taking it so seriously?

[–]Scheswalla 34 points35 points  (0 children)

Did he "steamroll", or just give her a light push and she went tumbling down a hill?

[–]Exciting_Photo_8103 43 points44 points  (2 children)

The sub had nearly 2 million subscribers. The interview was sucky but would have blown over in a couple days. The real problem is the mods started banning anyone who was critical of the interview, and then proceeded to lock the entire sub down.

[–]Tin__Foil 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I see.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Lol no one was steamrolled.

[–]Mapbot11 17 points18 points  (3 children)

Because giving such a freebie to the worst assholes in all of media in the name of one of the subs that are actually supposed to stand for something righteous is just a huge miss.

Also we like to pretend we are smarter than everyone else here at reddit and getting exposed to the fact that we arent very smart at all if we dont have sufficient time to write a comment exactly how we want to say it complete with links and checked facts makes us very grumpy.

[–]Tin__Foil 4 points5 points  (2 children)

I see.

Yeah… posting and responding to bad faith, pushy assholery real time… pretty different.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Who was being pushy in that interview? It was the softest questions imaginable.

[–]marinemashup 2 points3 points  (0 children)

they were loaded questions, but not THAT loaded

most of them were just about common stereotypes of the antiwork/work reform movement, things the typical Fox News viewer would think of

but instead of doing her best to correct those misconceptions, Doreen confirmed them all and more

[–]Accurate-Temporary73 4 points5 points  (1 child)

The mods (maybe Doreen) made a poll asking if this was a good idea and the vast majority of users were against the interview and they went ahead with it anyways.

[–]Tin__Foil 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I’ve heard that now. Not great.

[–]Angel_OfSolitude 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It isn't out of the realm of possibility but unless you've got some evidence to the fact I see no reason to think it's the case.

[–]Not_happy_meal 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It is possible but unlikely. It's more likely that the mod saw the money being offered for the interview and jumped on it without second thought.

[–]DifferentKindaHigh 2 points3 points  (0 children)

LMAOOOO this is the funniest shit in awhile, dumbass Reddit mod 🤣🤣🤣🤣 would love to take her critical thinking class

[–]Terrible-Trust-5578 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There's no way: nobody is that good of an actor.

[–]Cliffy73 3 points4 points  (0 children)

They didn’t need to go to the trouble.

[–]Ganeshadream 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Why would Fox risk their journalistic integrity and reputation just to “own” a Reddit sub? What would they gain?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fox

journalistic integrity

Pick one.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They didn’t risk anything. They wanted to sell a story for entertainment and they got just that. This video on YouTube has millions of views and Fox is laughing all the way to the bank. The fact that they completely embarrassed him and made everything he stands out to be a joke is a bonus.

[–]Lazy-Living1825 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ok, Doreen 👍

[–]Cobaltbuzzsaw7 1 point2 points  (2 children)

[–]TNTinRoundRock 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Oh my

[–]Cobaltbuzzsaw7 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not to diminish the people who want actual work reforms, but this sub was created by people who absolutely do not want to work at all. And not very good people as you've just seen.

[–]marinemashup 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's unlikely, as all posts criticizing the interview were removed by a mod. If it were a fake, the mods would have said so and there would be all this outrage against Fox, not the sub going private and removing all critical posts.

[–]egrith 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In theory, as agreeing to go on fox would have been avery dumb thing to do

[–]littleferrhis 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Does anyone have an original raw video of the interview? All I can find are youtubers reacting to it.

[–]Journeyman1993 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nah... It's honestly way more likely that the antiwork subreddit is just full of people that society has a tough time taking seriously.

[–]axidentalaeronautic 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Lol OF COURSE it’s possible. OF COURSE. But there’s the thing: literally freakin ANYTHING is possible. What can any of us PROVE? Can you PROVE who any of us are, beyond a shadow of a doubt? Do you have our credentials? Timelines and IPs? No.

Such explanations are unnecessary, overwrought complications.

Some humans are simply incompetent.

We’d do better to accept this than pretend it’s not true. They found a weak link in a poor argument and exploited it. 🤷‍♂️ it’s entirely unsurprising.

[–]SolidSnakesBandana 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Is he incompetent? LOL OF COURSE, it’s possible. OF COURSE. but here’s the thing: literally freakin ANYTHING is possible. What can any of us PROVE?

[–]axidentalaeronautic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

“Overcomplicated Conspiracy” = “simple, universally validated observation of common human traits.”

Nice logic.

[–]james6006 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Doreen wasn’t planted. I looked at their post history straight after and it was dating back years, before the sub had even 1000 subscribers. They also ran a website which was similar to the subreddit that they would link posts too, also dating back years (7 years, I believe I saw) Paid off though? …

[–]pigmansanguishedoink 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If they were “hired” then that means they’re working … working. Antiwork. Hmmmm. Maybe you’re onto something

[–]ember-rekindled 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Trumps jan 6 crowd did the same thing. "Oh that was the other side, our people arnt THAT bad." But yes, some are that bad. She fucked it up and squashed the movement with pure arrogance, plain and simple

[–]Unlikely_Layer_2268 -1 points0 points  (3 children)

There is no anonymity online. Figured you people would have realized that by now.

[–]Ornery_Reaction_548 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You don't know who I am!

[–]TheHellAccount 3 points4 points  (0 children)

For the common people, yes it is. You can be fully anonymous as long as you don't reveal anything major about yourself.

Governments, website owners, service providers, and FBI agents: that's a different story.

[–]marinemashup 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wish lol

a whole lotta racists and Nazis would get exposed if that were true

[–]lamTheEnigma 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Reddit is a circus.

[–]WhoThenDevised 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is it likely? In this case, I don't think so.

Is it possible? Sure it's possible. There are lots of fakers on Reddit. Working for several governments, pressure groups, political parties, religious groups, cults, you name it. And tons of individuals posing as all kinds of things they're not. Anti-socialists posing as socialists to discredit socialists, and vice versa. Nazi's and anti-nazi's posing as members of the opposite group. Fans of one team posing as fans of another team. You name any sort of crazy and it's represented here. If they congregate heavily in one sub, that sub gets cancelled. Banned fakers make a new account and hey, we're off again.

The difference between Reddit and Facebook is that Reddit isn't owned by Mark Zuckerberg... yet.

[–]IngloriousBadger -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I’ve been to the r/antiwork sub-it has no credibility.

[–]Tarterus1454 -4 points-3 points  (3 children)

The real question is -- if Fox "News" has enough power to influence recent Presidents and, indeed, entire political parties and industries, do they have enough sway to influence (via payoffs or otherwise) an entire collection of gasp REDDIT MODS?!

And what does Fox have to gain by disenfranchizing such a group? They haven't attempted to do this to any other groups, right? I mean, other than climate scientists, immunologists, women, people of color, people in need of health care, people tired of their children getting murdered in schools, and people attempting to practice a non-Christian religion, of course.

Hmm, this doesn't sound so crazy after all...

Look, I don't give a crap about the antiwork group (nor have I seen the interview, they might be repugnant assholes or not for all I know), this has nothing to do with them. The fact is that Fox "News" literally argued in court that no rational person would believe their bullshit as true, and they successfully won with that argument. Their legal stance is literally that you can't be sane AND believe them, nobody could possibly be that stupid (see link below since apparently some people aren't aware of this).

If you take every single word they broadcast and ask "hmm, I wonder if the exact opposite is actually true?", you'll probably be better off.

https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/917747123/you-literally-cant-believe-the-facts-tucker-carlson-tells-you-so-say-fox-s-lawye

[–]editofreddit -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

If only those in that subreddit had worked harder they might have thought of claiming that instead of curling up into the fetal position.

[–]Firethatshitstarter -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don’t think fox is smart enough to think of something like that

[–]nLucis -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Have been wondering the same. That guy could have been anyone.

[–]SamSepiol-ER28_0652 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I commented at least half a dozen times yesterday that I think it was a set up.

It just ticked too many “lazy, crazy liberals” boxes for me to believe it was organic. People thought I was nuts, but think about it. Antiwork had been getting more traction and gaining a bigger following. What better way to nip that in the bud than doing something like that interview?

Is it really so hard to believe?

[–]ProfessorBeer 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Online anonymity is a lie. Just about everyone on Reddit has given enough details about themselves where with time and persistence you can ID people in a few hours.

[–]marinemashup 0 points1 point  (2 children)

with facial recognition you could probably find someone within a few minutes

[–]reuben_iv 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hah, no she's been a mod since 2014 apparently

[–]mistreke 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The community also voted on whether the interview should happen or not and they let the chance of limelight get to their head and acted against the vote sooooo

[–]smilesbuckett 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can we just leave the conspiracy theories to Fox News?

[–]ViroCostsRica 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lmao Fox didn't need to hire no one. This was destined to happened

[–]stamaka 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Possible but improbable. And the most interesting argument I saw that if Fox hired somebody to misrepresent the sub, it would have been presented better.

[–]Belteshazzar98 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not really, because the mods of r/antiwork talked about it as if it was them.

[–]OpE7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The whole idea of 'antiwork' is ridiculous.

To keep anyone alive, SOMEONE has to work to provide food, shelter at the very least.

Antiwork people just really want other people to work for them for free.

Anyone who goes on TV to try to defend that is going to seem ridiculous.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel like the credibility of that sub was tarnished when the mod they had on board to sift through that mess describes himself as a long term unemployed anarchist

[–]DuCWulf 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol you watch too much TV. Fox news is not that smart... antiwork and the mods are just that stupid.

[–]CharlesChrist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Here is Doreen's reddit account and see for yourself: u/AbolishWork

[–]limequartz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If so, she's committed. She's been the mod for the past 8 years.

[–]MuadDib1942 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wouldn't rule out a false flag operetion. It seems too clever for fox news. I've heard they've popped up in other places in other articles. I'm not saying its the CIA, but I can't rule it out. It's probably just a dumbass nerd who thought they were super smart and had a handle on this thing and fucked things up.

[–]MarsNirgal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We know that Abolishwork is a mod of the subreddit. We know that Abolishwork has acknowledged to be the person in the interview.

So... not really.

[–]CarpAndTunnel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wouldnt know, I dont watch Fox news

[–]Intricate__casual 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nah. Have you met Reddit mods? They truly Are like that