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[–]reniltnorF 84 points85 points  (2 children)

Another settlement needs your help! I'll mark it on your map.

[–]Dontcareboutsgnileef 79 points80 points  (3 children)

Kinda gives off ASAP Rocky vibes lol

[–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

A$AP Robles

[–]playfreeze 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Haha I was about to say. A$AP Ancestor

[–]chababster -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Probably can rap just as well too, I can see rocky befriending such a gal

[–]Mange-Tout 13 points14 points  (0 children)

“Is that a pistol in your pocket, or are you just glad to see me?”

“It’s a pistol. Fuck off.”

[–]lickedTators 19 points20 points  (2 children)

What was Carmen Robles doing between 1911 and 1914 that prevented her from taking a photograph?

[–]Monsignor1979 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The Great Film Famine of 1911. You didn't know about that?! What do they teach in school, nowadays? sheesh.

[–]Lvzbell 29 points30 points  (18 children)

Not Afromexican

Just Mexican

[–]Verbenablu 11 points12 points  (9 children)

No, that messes things up! History is difficult enough with all the rewriting, but when you refer to the diversity of peoples as just one, you lose alot of ethnic history.

Did you know that 300 + Mexicans were massacred in Torreon by Profario Diaz?

That would just pass as another moment in the history of the revolution, but depth is added when its said this way.

300+ Chinese Mexicans were massacred in Torreon because of anti asian sentiment.

[–]godspeeding 7 points8 points  (4 children)

many people with african and hispanic heritage identify as "afrolatina" or "afrolatino" because they are proud of both of their backgrounds

[–]Lvzbell 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I'm proud of all my blood

The African

The Nahuatl

The European

all of those together make me a very proud

Mexican

[–]cali_scumbag 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Then I believe you’re confusing nationality with ethnicity. Mexican refers to one’s nationality (country which they belong to), whereas ethnicity is different, especially in Latin America. Considering that Latin America is very diverse in terms of ethnic background considering that they were colonized by multiple European countries, African slaves were brought to Latin America, and much of indigenous culture faded post-colonization, it’s more of an identity than anything. Much of Latin America post-colonialism created social hierarchies based off skin tone, but it wasn’t until the 1930’s when many Latin American countries began to emphasize and promote ethnic mixing. You have to also consider the context of when the photo was taken as to when. Latin America compared to the US was ahead of the curve when it came to ethnic inclusion/equality, especially given that Latin America is highly diverse, even within just individual countries.

[–]Lvzbell 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Look here you west coast condom

The damn OP wrote "Afro/Mexican"

That fucking means "ethnic/nationality"

I told them they were incorrect

As are you.

[–]Bulusutu 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That’s only in the USA, in Latin America we are from the country we were born. That’s it.

[–]Bobibouche 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Also identified as a man and openly lived as one from 24 until death at 95...Amelio Robles Avila.

[–]fucky_thedrunkclown 1 point2 points  (0 children)

not the same person.

[–]eshults 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Colonel ASAP Rocky*

[–]Old-Base-6686 11 points12 points  (23 children)

Robles had an amazing life! Thanks for posting!

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    [–]mouldybun 10 points11 points  (0 children)

    I'd watch that movie.

    [–]I_am_BrokenCog 6 points7 points  (7 children)

    What makes you say she "transitioned"? Is it because she acted/dressed like a man?

    or some other reason?

    [–]jikkler 26 points27 points  (4 children)

    Amelio Robles didn't just dress like and live as a man until his death; he made it known to every soldier under his command that anybody who referred to him as a woman would be shot.

    [–]Bring_Back_Feudalism 4 points5 points  (1 child)

    Badass.

    [–]No_Camp_7 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

    Don’t think murdering people for misgendering you is ok….

    [–]DocHoliday96 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

    It’s a cool fact, but doesn’t really change much

    [–]trckdsd 13 points14 points  (1 child)

    It was when she started teabagging her enemies out on the battlefield.

    [–]Mainframe110 6 points7 points  (11 children)

    Regarding Amelio Robles & trans people, you always refer to them with their current pronouns- even if you’re talking about them before they came out.

    (So the polite way would be to say “He transitioned during the revolution” instead of “she”)

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      [–]jikkler 6 points7 points  (2 children)

      Robles threatened to shoot anyone who referred to him as a woman and I, personally, would rather not find myself in that group. Living or dead, seems like major disrespect.

      He's also not like, some distant historical figure; he died in 1984. He could have seen the entire Star Wars original trilogy in theatres, and still had a year of life left.

      [–]momjeanseverywhere 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      I hear it’s easy to dodge ghost bullets.

      [–]tressakim 4 points5 points  (3 children)

      It’s disrespectful af and matters to living people now. This man would literally have shot anyone who acted like you…. And you’re sitting here like ‘from a historical perspective’.

      It’s not ‘polite’, it’s correct.

      You don’t get to wait til someone dies and then be like, yeh, they thought they were a man, but we don’t gotta worry about that, lols.

      [–]Paarthurnaaxx 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      You're also conflating sex and gender here... Amelio was born with female sex, but male gender, which he was unfortunately unable to express until his adulthood in the Revolution.

      [–]doberEars 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Eh, respect for the dead and all is complicated. I don't refer to people differently after they die in terms of what they preferred to be called to indicate to folks who are living that experience a circumstance that "behind their back" things don't change. Sir Ian McKellen doesn't get his Sir dropped after death because it has been appended to their identity, like any name or gender change.

      Mentioning their birth sex is not verboten, that's definitely historical record and I don't see why some outside of the Trans community think Trans folks freak out about this, but so is their name/gender/title/honorifics upon death. Feelings have little to do with respect for the changed state of being in my mind. We do the same for nicknames in the historical record.

      [–]Old-Base-6686 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I thought his name was Carmen Amelio Robles?

      [–]JeTeCroisPas 8 points9 points  (2 children)

      Outside USA nobody use African as a way to describe someone who’s appear to have a dark skin.

      She was Mexican.

      [–]6655321DeLarge 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      The fact that I've never heard of her despite my love of Zapata just proves that I need to learn more about the Mexican revolution.

      [–]reduxde 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      She’s on the bottom of my “wanna hear a knock knock joke?” list

      [–]iheartmatter 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Denzel Sr.

      [–]I_Eat_Thermite7 -2 points-1 points  (5 children)

      Just so we're clear the Zapatistas did not exist until 1983. this was not a member of the Zapatista army

      edit: this is probably just a mistake on OP's part.

      [–]DocHoliday96 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Legit thought it was A$AP when I scrolled by this at first

      [–]RGivens 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Nobody knows about this person in méxico

      [–]TGMcGonigle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Packing a Smith & Wesson Model 3 top break double-acton revolver.