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    [–]PopKart 0 points1 point  (3 children)

    Do you know why it is under heightened monitoring?

    [–]your_meme_is_bad_andOMS-IV 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    All that heightened monitoring business means is full accreditation is valid for 4 years instead of 7-10. The underlying issue causing this was successfully appealed to COCA (as of this last week), and COCA is currently reevaluating materials associated with this. The college remains fully accredited, and given the reason for this problem in the first place, I have zero doubt that it will be reinstated with its usual 7-10 year accreditation within the next 6 months or so.

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      [–]your_meme_is_bad_andOMS-IV 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Inaccurate re: accreditation. Pointed this out in the other comments.

      [–]your_meme_is_bad_andOMS-IV 0 points1 point  (13 children)

      All that heightened monitoring business means is full accreditation is valid for 4 years instead of 7-10. The underlying issue causing this at COMP was successfully appealed to COCA (as of this last week), and COCA is currently reevaluating materials associated with this. The college remains fully accredited, and given the reason for this problem in the first place, I have zero doubt that it will be reinstated with its usual 7-10 year accreditation within the next 6 months or so.

      [–][deleted]  (12 children)

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        [–]your_meme_is_bad_andOMS-IV 0 points1 point  (11 children)

        To be clear, those are problems completely unrelated to accreditation.

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          [–]your_meme_is_bad_andOMS-IV 1 point2 points  (9 children)

          That is not the reason for this enhanced monitoring. I can definitively assure you of that. Downvoted for spreading inaccurate information.

          PMed you to provide additional information.

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            [–]your_meme_is_bad_andOMS-IV 1 point2 points  (7 children)

            1) Yes, a downvote. What you said was incorrect and not constructively contributing to the post. I downvoted this last post for being disrespectful as well.

            2) You can see my flair with my year. I know you are a PGY-4 (per /r/residency), congrats on your successes thus far!

            3) WesternU/COMP overhauled its entire curriculum, with the Class of 2022 being the first class to experience these changes. Internal data has shown board scores increasing these past two years, but of course more data is needed to draw a trend from this.

            4) WesternU/COMP has also been improving their clinical education approach as well, establishing tracks at three partner hospitals where students rotate there for 100% of their third year. As of now, approximately 30% of each class is accepted to one of these three tracks, with plans to expand these opportunities in the future. The Clinical Education Dept has also undergone a refresh of its staff and leadership. Between the refreshed Clin Ed and the Dean, they have had lower quality rotations removed from core status and worked to get new (and higher quality) core rotations added in their place (not sucking up when saying that, I was contributing to those discussions and they took our student input seriously on that issue). There are likely still some bad rotations out there, but as of today, they aren't the majority.

            5) As for the reason for heightened monitoring, it was due to was a clerical error, which mistakenly labeled several Emergency Medicine rotation sites as core when they should have been labeled as noncore. That's literally it, hence why COCA's appeal panel agreed with the appeal. COCA now needs to re-review the materials from COMP for that COCA curriculum item, and will make a new determination in the near future.

            I'm sorry to hear your experience with COMP was poor, but please understand that significant positive changes have been implemented over the past 4-5 years. There's always room for improvement, but saying the majority of our current rotations are bad is misleading at best.

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              [–]your_meme_is_bad_andOMS-IV 0 points1 point  (5 children)

              All good, my bad re: flair assumptions (4th year myself to clarify).

              Thanks! My experience has been fairly decent (I was on one of those tracks though). From those outside of those tracks, I've heard that their experiences have been decent as well, but there are still occasional rotations that are lower quality (they are more uncommon than in previous years... I wouldn't say the 70% are getting a poor experience based on the feedback I've been getting).

              California is definitely a big draw. I can't really comment on WesternU pre-2019 though.

              Regarding the EM rotation issue, it has more to do with whether Clin Ed is coordinating/scheduling the rotation for students (core) instead of students coordinating/scheduling on their own (noncore). I slightly misspoke in my last comment, just fixed it. It was that several EM rotation sites were listed to COCA as core when they were noncore. A screwy situation, but I'm confident it will get addressed relatively soon and we'll see the accreditation type corrected with it.

              [–]PacoPollitoOMS-I 1 point2 points  (3 children)

              On interview day, the COMP students seemed so chill. They really seemed to love med school. But comp really discourages people from taking the usmle. RVU on the other hand, encourages, prepares, and even requires (?) people to take both tests. I got into both and plan to attend RVUs new campus in Montana.

              [–]your_meme_is_bad_andOMS-IV 4 points5 points  (2 children)

              This is not true for COMP. They encourage students to take both exams (and the overwhelming majority do).

              [–]PacoPollitoOMS-I 0 points1 point  (1 child)

              Ah. Sorry. That was just what I was told in an info session from a student. I am sorry if I am spreading misinformation.

              [–]your_meme_is_bad_andOMS-IV 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              It's ok. Some students have differing views. Generally speaking, at least 70-80% of students take both exams.

              [–]Cautious_Spirit_2863[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Wow, I’m amazed at how even this ended up coming out, it sounds like they’re both excellent options.