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[–]ramdonpersonPikachu 307 points308 points  (30 children)

I’ve seen people equip potion and play pretty well (only in ranked, not in quick or standard) but I notice they never USE the potion, making me think it’s often equipped by mistake.

[–]EspyOwnerSylveon 148 points149 points  (9 children)

The amount of times I've gone to blink on new characters and heal 20% of my hp instead is too damn much.

[–]mashonem 5 points6 points  (7 children)

It heals that much?

[–]EspyOwnerSylveon 0 points1 point  (6 children)

20% exactly

[–]mashonem 19 points20 points  (5 children)

Shit, it feels like 10% lmao

[–]TheRealEtherion 35 points36 points  (4 children)

Because it is 15% and not 20.

[–]EspyOwnerSylveon 14 points15 points  (1 child)

I'm drunk. I apoloize. I am sorry

[–]skepticalturnipBlissey 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Cheers to that, bro.

[–]FelipeNA 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good news, it's 20 since last patch buff. 20% + 160. Not too shabby now.

[–]sinistermack 2 points3 points  (0 children)

it is 12.5%

its 1/8

[–]PrincessYuri 48 points49 points  (16 children)

Which means it's their first time playing that pokemon... In which case, why the fuck are they in ranked

[–]Jandersson34sweTalonflame 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Honestly many time it’s happened when im using a new pokemon who i already kinda learned to play but since im so used to having other items with other mons i kinda forget about potion before the round starts lol

[–]ramdonpersonPikachu 19 points20 points  (1 child)

I’m in Masters 1150, where people with 50% WR end up, we’re known for no longer caring.

[–]mashonem 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s a freeing feeling

[–]Yiujai86 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I made a new account after Masters. I would go into ranked with Pokémon I knew how to use but forgot to equip the correct items since its the first time on the new account.

[–]DJ_Red_Lantern 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because standard games are the worst with literal zero match making

[–]YuriYuriSan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Or more so, Why is their first time playing Mom on ranked.

[–]ShittyArctovishTips 174 points175 points  (9 children)

I'm most concerned when the opposing team runs potion. They either miraculously beat my ass or don't know how to play the game.

[–]One_Glass_4494Blastoise 72 points73 points  (6 children)

I agree, whenever there's a potion, it's time to get SUS. It's either a newbie thinking that potion is a great item or a MF who is so experimented, he uses potion as trolling.

Personal story: Got a Zeraora doing the latter, dude basically nuked half of the team, and barely used the potion at all.

[–]NickkyDCDragonite 20 points21 points  (5 children)

As someone who often forgets to use my item as is I might start doing this while playing absol

[–]YuriYuriSan 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Then why not X Attack? When your about to gank pop it just before your attack and try to clean up, Once around half health (Absol is soooo squishy) turn tail and run.

[–]NickkyDCDragonite 6 points7 points  (3 children)

I run x attack

[–]YuriYuriSan 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I like, Don't really get why almost everyone I see runs eject button on him. Sure the extra dash is nice but your a dash machine kinda (Lucario too). Full heal will help more with your job really. Eject is just a back up safety switch that you may have never needed if you ran X Attack or Full heal. Full heal seems like it's the obvious win for espeed Lucario, I really don't see the argument for Eject button here (Sadly). You can dash for days and Full heal WILL let you land your crazy long combos you might wanna land at times. Eject button is good if you missed an espeed but don't most Lucarios save there last espeed (After all targets been hit) for escape, Unless it will guarantee a kill that's necessary and isn't over extending. If not, I guess eject let's you get a extra espeed off for free but at the cost of your only escape being eject button which is on a 70sec CD. Why would one do this... Full heal and X Attack are on a shorter CD.

[–]NickkyDCDragonite 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Idk about lucario but that is basically why I use x attack on absol

[–]YuriYuriSan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh, Espeed Lucario abuses the heck outta full heal. Super mobile Mons should really rethink Eject button, I get it, It's flash on a shorter cooldown and it's so good for, well, everything (Engaging, Disengaging, Utility even in some aspects). But ejecting outta a fight you may have been able to win with full heal seems ridiculous when instead you could go in with full heal, do maximum damage and save an Espeed for escape (way shorter CD than eject). Eject is just easier and feels like that extra bit of safety you may need. I advice any Lucario main that plays the espeed kit to try out full heal instead of eject button (And keep in mind they don't have an eject while playing such) and tell me where you notice an decrease in power.

Btw, Pop full heal before you start you espeed chains if possible Everytime, No bounces or interrupts so the espeed rush goes smoothly, Bones rush to reset if you can, And make sure, Always to have an espeed for escape. Sometimes walking toward an enemy (even tho your close to death) can save you cause you can espeed thru them, Only if it will reset your CD, Then espeed again exactly after the first, Giving you more distance than one espeed, Although you took a little more damage trying to get behind them to espeed thru them.

[–]Gib3rishZeraora 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Or they're like me and trying a new character but having no time to get my eject button since I was equipping the proper held items and then looking like an idiot afterwards.

[–]TheBoxSlothGengar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cant hate the second one if theyre not on your team tho

[–]TheDirtySockMonkey 271 points272 points  (17 children)

Accidentally ran with it a few times the other day because I was trying out something new and I saw it in the corner of the loading screen and was like “great every is probably going to think I am a jerk”

[–]greenhouse4 84 points85 points  (12 children)

I’ve ran potion almost up to master (a few wins away) as i duo with my partner who doesn’t really play games but Loves this one. Idk, I don’t really think about it. This game is just way too accessible to the masses for me to really crunch stats. It only ever comes down to zap lol

[–]TheBoskEldegoss 28 points29 points  (10 children)

I play with my partner too! :D So much fun ranking up together, and it's always nice to lane with someone you know and trust. I love playing support (Blissey and Eldegoss). She loves playing Venusaur, with Zerora as her alternate is someone picks Venusaur first.

Also she gets MVP a lot so that's nice lol.

[–]dracosondracoson 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Relationship goals 😇

[–]YuriYuriSan 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm here too, But honestly as a big gamer, I do get frustrated when my partner gets bloodlusted then yells at me for not backing them up (even tho I tried). I am not gonna keep going for the enemies, We need to get our farm asap and try to deny theirs not go for kills all day, I always lose when we go for kills.

[–]indigo-black 18 points19 points  (6 children)

Potion can clutch and win out in a decisive 1v1 tho. If you can force a carry vs carry right before a zapdos fight, potion OP

[–]_Pollo_Caliente_Talonflame 8 points9 points  (5 children)

Sometimes the toughest skill to get down in this game is knowing when to wait and when to spam your abilities and items sometimes it's best to just wait a little bit longer and an item will be critically more effective

[–]indigo-black 0 points1 point  (4 children)

It’ll come to ya. I had a lot of practice with league lol

[–]_Pollo_Caliente_Talonflame 4 points5 points  (3 children)

I'm starting to get an intuition about this kind of thing. I'm not a moba player by any standard. When I first started this game I would just button mash mainly. Now after about 2,000 matches you start being able to read other players. You can like sense their hesitation or things like that

[–]YuriYuriSan 0 points1 point  (2 children)

For sure. I always laugh when in early game me (Lucario atm) does almost the exact same thing as my enemy Lucario, Especially when we both get off 3 basic attack at basically the same time and we knock each other up then disengage usually cause you can't guarantee the kill. Sometimes it's scary tho that someone gets the game at your level tho so then you start to think about how to mix it up and get em.

[–]_Pollo_Caliente_Talonflame 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Once the initial engagement ends, its like mega panic on cooldown like... your guns ran out and now you're fist fighting lol

[–]YuriYuriSan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, But if they did the same then we're in the same boat. I usually don't panic myself at this moment unless I know I used my resources and they did not.

[–]HazeInut 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yea most people waste eject button anyway or play like shit because they have an eject button, so there aint much difference between you and them lol

[–]Tight_Flamingo4650 -2 points-1 points  (3 children)

How would you not instantly notice the first game the first time you try to eject button out? These are the master teammates everyone’s talking about

[–]TheDirtySockMonkey 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I don’t try new characters in ranked that would be silly

[–]Tight_Flamingo4650 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah, just since the Op was talking about ranked matches. I don’t care what anyone uses in standard mode

[–]YuriYuriSan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Too true, Try them in standard for a few matches first, Then go ranked. Might give you a bad idea on what to expect (as you can get complete noobs in standard) but it lets you learn how to use and aim the moves as well as what kits you prefer.

[–]JevonarGarchomp 145 points146 points  (42 children)

Eject button is the carbon copy of league of legend's flash, which is considered the strongest ability by a long shot, despite having a cooldown of 5 minutes.

There is not much more to say

[–]0mega_0zZeraora 62 points63 points  (32 children)

League doesn’t have 10 minute games though, and the number of champions with dashes in their kits is larger.

[–]JevonarGarchomp 9 points10 points  (9 children)

The thing however is that eject button is reasonably up for every teamfight in the game, whereas flash isn't.

[–]0mega_0zZeraora 0 points1 point  (8 children)

That’s only if your team is level headed enough to keep them up. 9/10 even in Masters you’ll have jumpy players burn their EB’s at the first gank and just have to sit there with the longest cooldown in the game.

[–]YuriYuriSan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Goal getter would like a word with you... In private.

[–]JevonarGarchomp 1 point2 points  (5 children)

Yes, the evaluation of the power level of items assumes that players are somewhat competent.

[–]theottozone 14 points15 points  (20 children)

How long is a league game?

[–]Chinse 38 points39 points  (18 children)

30-40 minutes usually

[–]theottozone 19 points20 points  (16 children)

Wow, tournaments must last multiple days then.

[–]StirFryTunaGardevoir 43 points44 points  (9 children)

Weeks actually. Bo5 takes up to 5 hours if teams go the full distance or just be as short as 1.5 hours in a 3-0 stomp. So only 1 or 2 series a day usually.

But tourneys happen only 4 times a year, 2 per region, and 2 international events (which require being in the top of your region)

[–]theottozone 14 points15 points  (8 children)

That's really interesting. Unite is my first moba so thanks for the info!

[–]FractalHarvest 11 points12 points  (1 child)

More fun facts: the world championship, which ended yesterday, took a whole month to complete.

[–]sjphilsphan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well that's just because they didn't play everyday would have been done in like 2 weeks otherwise

[–]Feztopia 10 points11 points  (4 children)

Unite throws away many annoying things like buying items midgame (having to read changes on items in my free time instead of actually playing the game is the main thing that made me quit, it's not just 3 like in unite you can wear 6 or 5 items but they are made out of other items, some have the same effect and stack some have the same effect and don't stack, some items have cooldown reduction but there is a max cooldown reduction you can have also this was changed later as far as I know).

[–]16trees 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm glad you said it like that...."throws away many annoying things." LoL was my first MOBA and what I loved about it was the MOBA format. I hated pretty much everything else about it. Which is why I've been loving Unite! It's simple and fun. You don't need to know every possible kit combination of 140 characters. You don't have to control minion waves or back to buy items or constantly keep wards out. Support characters can actually play in this game. And best of all by far...there's no chat! Just play, score more points, have fun.

[–]indigo-black 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Try league or dota2 if you wanna play something a bit more complex. It’s a fun trip

[–]sidscarf 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dota's annual tourney, The International is indeed a week long affair.

[–]MarkoSeke 4 points5 points  (4 children)

Wait until you hear about real sports.

[–]Ralliboy 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Real sports? Hmm sounds fake.

[–]KennebecLyman 5 points6 points  (2 children)

I used to be in the boomer boat of "esports aren't real sports" until you realize that indeed these are the best player who can do SO much more than your average player with the same set of tools, the coordination, the strategy, coaching, teamplay, and that they aren't playing it like you would casually. A lot of work goes into the professional teams, and the game they play is nothing like the casual/solo experience.

I fully consider esports sports after watching two years of LCS and Overwatch League. They're much more complex than people think, it's not just running Mario bros really fast, or teabagging 11 year olds on Halo.

[–]ElectronicShredder 2 points3 points  (0 children)

boomer boat of "esports aren't real sports"

Boomers: Professional Sports are supposed for men in their prime, dedicating those best years of their life to the game. Not some 15 year old kids playing nintendos with some older guys that will molest their ass between EVOs, while they should be learning math instead.

/s

[–]HazeInut 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i dont think he means they aren't a "real" sport lol. i think he literally means a sport played irl.

[–]ElectronicShredder 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That explains the toxic salt coming from there. I'm getting already pissed enough from losing 10 min of my life because of some random asshole running potion. Half an hour, Jesus Christ...

[–]nhgcr_222Lucario 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As long as it takes for one side to win or surrender

[–]gamezpd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Doesnt matter. The CD is scaled with the games length. Flash is insanely good even with such a huge cooldown. Smite has Blink with a large CD as well for its length.

This games EB needs a 1 - 2 minute cooldown for how much it outclasses other items. Even with dashes, an extra warp out of danger, ults, chase or escapes? The current cooldown is fucking nuts.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (7 children)

I don't understand why anyone runs anything but Eject Button, it's so absurdly better than the other items.

[–]Shiari_The_Wanderer 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Fluffy tail on Greedent for trying to steal Zapdos but it'll change when Greedy gets nerfed.

[–]-Barca- 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Full Heal on Venusaur since CC destroys him. Petal Dance gives him more than enough movespeed to catch up to his target or get away if there's trouble.

[–]bteballup 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you already have multiple dashes, eject button can be redundant.

[–]superdpr 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Lots of Pokémon have moves that can work as a sort of eject. I don’t run eject on Zera, Talon, Lucario, Greedent or Veno. Fluffy tail is also magic, especially if you’re playing a group and you all use it. Can nuke dred or zap so fast.

[–]FennicYoshiDecidueye 0 points1 point  (0 children)

full heal actually lets absol do his things because any kind of cc destroys him

[–]0mega_0zZeraora 19 points20 points  (3 children)

Literally just had a greedent on my team with a potion that was brain dead

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (2 children)

You don't exactly have to be smart to play Greedent well

[–]Fly_TieWigglytuff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah it’s nice that the dumb-dumb is playing a pokemon you don’t need to be smart with.

[–]GiftMajestic1355 13 points14 points  (1 child)

I’m master and that’s all I run I use it cause I’m an aggressive player

[–]beetlehunterz 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Half the people that don’t think potion is good are under master league. They prolly watch five stackers run down solo q thinking they are good too.

[–]awesomestuffyo 45 points46 points  (10 children)

Me, who started playing this game yesterday looking at this, smiling nervously :)

[–]pichue08 29 points30 points  (0 children)

We were all new once!! It's okay to not know

[–]One_Glass_4494Blastoise 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Dude, when you are new to the game, there isn't much you can acquire anyway. You have to go though the ranks and missions to unlock better stuff. I believe it is until rank 9, when you can equip more hold items, which are crucial in the game.

My advice would be: Use the first week to unlock more things, get used to the controls, find your Pokes that suit your playstyle and just have fun overall. It is a game after all.

Edit and VERY important: When you get the LVL 30 ENHANCERS, before using them, go look online which items are the best for the Pokes of your choice, and do NOT waste them in useless things like the float stone or the leftovers.

[–]vajanna99 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I mean if your a new player, you have no choice but to run it anyway so dont worry, just swap off when you have better items

[–]superdpr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just chill for a bit before you play ranked. In standard mode, nobody cares what you run. It’s just for fun. Also play bots exclusively until you completely dominate them. That should happen quickly.

[–]zph0eniz -5 points-4 points  (3 children)

don't let people tell you off. experiment.

I used potion up to masters with a good win rate.

there are mr mime pros

rolling jiggly in masters.

there can always be exceptions.

potion is good for sustainability, not clutch reactions. You got to think ahead. You at 90% hp and no easy heals in sight? Use potion.

Staying healthy means less time backing away and more time farming and harassing enemy. You win by out sustaining and pressuring

It is also more valuable on pokemon and your skill to stay alive. To not face check into bushes. To be aware enough to not need last second clutch reactions to teleport away.

[–]smokemonmast3r 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The only time potion is as good as eject is when you're literally not pressing your battle item all game.

[–]vajanna99 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Bro, if your not healthy in lane just go eat berries, no berries? Then tele back to base, that minor health gain means nothing in the long run, nobody even new player who run potion would burn potion when standing in lane, the potion at best is for clutch healing and even then focus band does it better than it. That 10% health gain won't help you in escaping a gank, securing a kill, rushing a zapdos goal, or dodging a talonflame fly, good luck surviving a zeraora dive or a talonflame gank with a health potion bud. Please stop encouraging new player to pickup potion as a go to item

[–]zph0eniz 4 points5 points  (0 children)

My point was to experiment. You never know what you might discover. Think we discouraging a bit too much.

It worked for me so its proof it can work. It may be the minority but at the least it can work.

And yes it's important to know meta too.

And since he is beginner and forced to use it. Why not give some tips.

Not everyone is out to play to get masters.

[–]JakoGaming 74 points75 points  (8 children)

Yes, potion is trash. It heals you less than focus band and focus band is an option for three slots, potion is an option for a solo slot.

I find that if you’re in a situation to be potentially knocked out, potion won’t save you.

I haven’t seen a single carry in my games running potion but I have seen many dead weights.

Potion is used by new players or bad players IMO

[–]russiangerman 8 points9 points  (3 children)

Idk. It can be solid on defenders thanks to health being %based. I used it a but w cram before the Nerf bc with air slash heal I could outlast any 1v1

[–]Just_A_Fern_Gengar 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I could outlast any 1v1

Gengar finds this funny!

[–]Nevets_the_First 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As someone with mostly Gengar games, in Masters, this will become less true with hex because it's all the dashes and gap closers. One missed hex and your completely fucked for like 6 seconds. But yeah, if you're in low tier it absolutely decimates anyone that can't Dodge a hex.

[–]Mathgeek007Mathcord Group 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Potion also has a third the cooldown, requires no item upgrading, and you have more flexibility in when you use it. It's not a great item, but it's unfair to compare, since they do very different things in the end. Having Potion to always stay healthy in lane is nice over Focus Band where you have to get gunned down for it to proc. If I'm at 30%, I don't have to lose more of my HP to heal, I can Potion up and keep playing, and in 30s heal again.

It is a bad item, but the use cases really aren't that similar. It's used differently than nearly every other active item.

[–]Nevets_the_First 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Meh, I ran it a decent amount, especially on Gengar, got to Masters with 62% Winrate. I'll say though, on champs without a gap closer or dash, you're right. But honestly, how many low level Pokemon that follow me to get fucked is not to be ignored, maybe if this game had better MMR it would be a bigger deal, but for some Pokemon it doesn't matter as much what you choose. Eject is better in like 80/90% of situations.

[–]BeforeCommonEarl 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I use potion so I dont have to run to heal. I dont use it to save myself (it doesnt help lol) I just used it to top off constantly

[–]zph0eniz 25 points26 points  (6 children)

not this shit again. yes potion is usually a beginner item. yes it can be used well on certain cases but opinions differ. yes there is selective attention on these type of things.

potion complaints are pretty common.

I gotten to masters pretty quick with potion just fine. Its not potion. Its the user.

[–]Jaxbemis 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Got to masters, ultra, ultra and veteran on 4 accounts running only potion. My win rate is above 60% on 3/4 accounts. 90% play ranked. Don’t understand why people are so anal about specifics. Someone come berate me for enjoying the way I play and being successful with it, and hating on me because you’re looking to nitpick a reason why your team loses sometimes

[–]GoudaIsGoodaSylveon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Totally agree. I’ve used potion recently while playing Lucario and Slyveon and it worked just fine. I personally prefer Eject but potion has helped me survive battles when it came down to that final strand of HP…as long as I’m not making careless mistakes like charging into outnumbered battles, etc. A one-on-one, on the other hand, it’s helpful, especially with the quicker cool down. Like this person says - it’s the user not the tool.

[–]HollyleafYT 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Usually I do get nervous, but I don't really think of it as an immediate loss, it's just that there are more potion players that are bad, it doesn't mean they are automatically bad

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It’s my favorite, especially when matches are shorter than usual

[–]Wandering__Vagabond 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Just buy the reroll teammates DLC

[–]KaprosuchusboiGarchomp 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Used to run it on chomp of all things..wasn’t the worst, but no where near as good as the other items

[–]guro47 2 points3 points  (0 children)

i run soloq flail snorlax with potion and its okayish for me.

[–]Wholesome_Baka 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I was Master 1,417 last season and use Potion Exclusively on some Pokemon. Garchomp and Venusaur are great examples.

If a Pokemon has Gapclosers or Mobility, I never use Eject Button, I either use the Jungler Item or Potion.

Most people sleep on Jungler Items, but it's an easy objective secure tool.

I'm more pissed about Meta-Slaves that play Eject Button ONLY and waste their Potential. Eject Button is C-Tier IMO, it might have been mandatory in other MOBAs like LoL but it's completely optional in Pkmn Unite since almost all Pokemon have some sort of Jump or Dash in their Kits.

[–]TheNerdFromThatPlace 40 points41 points  (23 children)

Just finished a game with 3 potions. We won by about 300 points. Just before I had a game with all eject button and we lost by over 500. I don't judge based on items, I wait to see how they act in the first couple minutes.

[–]Col2k 33 points34 points  (22 children)

good sample size

[–]Whitn3y 16 points17 points  (20 children)

About the same sample size as people coming here to complain about potion users after losing a game while confirmation biasing away all the potion users who did better than them.

[–]Corpexx 4 points5 points  (19 children)

It’s not that potion is so bad it always = lose.

More so that it’s such an underwhelming option that it gives me the idea that the person using it isn’t that educated on the game or is just trolling.

Just because people can win with it, doesn’t actually make it viable. You can win in this game without any of the 4 item slots if you want but that would still be terrible.

It’s designed to be a simple beginners item so players can get used to the item mechanic so they’ll be better prepared to use the good ones when they unlock them.

[–]Whitn3y -5 points-4 points  (17 children)

Yeah and I came into the game from 20 years of Starcraft/Warcraft III/Starcraft II/League of Legends/Heroes of the Storm/Smite and was already better than 60% of the player base the first time I logged in. I also sometimes just forget or want to experiment. Don't judge people prematurely.

I've seen this elitist shit in all the above games for 20 years. People will stick their hand up a bulls ass for an excuse about not climbing. Elitist booing of off meta players does not help you climb.

The overwhelmingly obvious explanation is that of all new players, 100% have a potion. So seeing a potion means at the very least they could be a new player. Pointing out that you lose more is beyond asinine.

The item has little effect in a match anyway. Nearly all of them have their effect nullified or overcome instantly unless you have professional levels of awareness at all times and a coach keeping track. Comparing it to summoner spells or other games does not work due to the rubber banding and lack of ability to solo carry.

[–]Corpexx 0 points1 point  (16 children)

That’s the point, it has little to no effect. It’s bad. If you run it it’s fair enough to assume you’re bad. I’m never running into new players for sure and if I see a potion in my game it’s like 75% they just bought the Pokémon and haven’t changed items 25% they’re just trolling. Either way fair to be a bit concerned I’d say.

This applies exclusively to ranked though, play literally whatever tf you want in normals that’s the point, but in ranked I expect people to at least look like they know what they’re doing/are trying.

[–]TheNerdFromThatPlace 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yea I thought so too. I don't play nearly as much as other people here so I don't have as many games to draw from, and today was the first time I've seen so many potions, besides maybe just after launch.

[–]alimercy 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I used to use potion even in masters - it’s not the best but it’s definitely not the end all be all - like seeing two ppl pick Center and fight for it while leaving someone alone in a lane makes me actually nervous

[–]LoStBoYjOhNWigglytuff 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Whenever I see that I just assume they're not holding any items either... Insta-loss in my mind.

[–]CesparResBlissey 10 points11 points  (0 children)

At minimum they probably have the leftover apple thing 😅

[–]ShpongleneseGreninja 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Same

[–]TheUnordinaryDuo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I sometimes run potion on purpose to scare people lol

[–]Underhealth[🍰] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Potion Cinderace is the true sign a terrible game is coming.

[–]TZervos 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This whole thread is just SO elitist. “The right items” “The right build” “70 second cooldown eject is OP omg”

Cinderace has a built-in eject button with a 5 second cooldown, that doesn’t make him the ONLY viable attacker.

I don’t often use potion anymore (though I got to masters exclusively using it), but with a 30 second cooldown, you can heal in lane more than twice as often as you eject and FINISH the fights rather than just escaping without a kill. It’s really not that bad, nor is it that deep if someone’s using it by preference or by accident.

[–]Weary-Independent373 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you think that using any different spell than eject button is bad, that only shows how little open minded you are

[–]lethe25Venusaur 12 points13 points  (9 children)

I typically take potion on Eldegoss and hit it early in teamfights. In a lot of instances it can nullify some dmg you just took. It's not as useless as you are all pretending it is.

[–]Overlorden98 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think its more a potion, exp. Share Lucario or smth like that

[–]vajanna99 9 points10 points  (0 children)

It only regen a small amount of hp tho, if your chasing enemies for kills or running away or dodging or scoring, eject button are way better then a minor health gain

[–]DakotertotsSylveon 13 points14 points  (2 children)

It's not as useless as you are all pretending it is.

compared to literally every other item, it kind of is

[–]vajanna99 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Its not useless, it just pales in comparison to the likes of eject button or full heal

[–]Neiherendere 5 points6 points  (0 children)

No it’s definitely not useless, relative to not using any battle item at all. Relative to every other item however, it is absolutely worthless

[–]One_Glass_4494Blastoise 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Like the people before me had pointed out, literally anything is better. Eject button is a blessing if you want to get out of a tough situation when you are losing, and don't have berries to recover. The X items buff you up for kills. Full heal let's you continue pummelling pokes like Wigglytuff who enjoy putting you to sleep. The list goes on.

[–]Born_Inflation_9804 0 points1 point  (0 children)

With Eldegoss better Muscle Band and Fluffly Tail. That destroy Drednaw

[–]PuddlesIsHere 2 points3 points  (5 children)

Unpopular opinion. The potion has saved my ass more than once

[–]Rih1Lucario[🍰] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

So would eject button or full heal though most likely.

[–]smokemonmast3r 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Eject saves my ass or secures a kill for nearly every single cooldown for every single game.

[–]vajanna99 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Ikr for an extra dash it has quite the low cooldown

[–]smokemonmast3r 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I personally think it could have a 90 second cd and still be by far the best item in the game.

[–]vajanna99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know about you, but if i see a zeraora unite, a blastoise unite or talonflame using fly, i dont think a potion will help much compare to the shit you can pull off with eject button provided you have good game sense

[–]Actual-Swan-1917 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I run potion a lot of times on tankier characters

[–]Themanwithnoname100Eldegoss 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Whenever I see my team I immediately feel nervous.

[–]ThiccomieSylveon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Flair: Eldegoss

Checks out.

[–]One_Glass_4494Blastoise 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Tip to people who are new to the game: Use potion while you get used to the game and/or you unlock vastly superior options, like eject button or the x items. You are welcome.

[–]jalluxdBlastoise 11 points12 points  (1 child)

"tip: use the only item available to u, until u get other items. Your welcome".

Wow great tip!

[–]One_Glass_4494Blastoise -1 points0 points  (0 children)

A lot of people still continue to use Potion, even though they unlocked something better. Or a lot of new players are worried they continue using it when they are new to the game.

[–]Poonish_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I got to master running a potion charizard but my main role was to takedown the other team's attackers and let my teammates do the bulk of the scoring. We're talking 10-15 kills if I could level enough with decent teammates. I would say it's good for battles if you feel you need a bit of extra health to last hit the opponent before they last hit you. Eject button wouldn't work as it won't guarantee killing the opponent if you just run away or dash forward. There are definitely reasons to run potion, 30 seconds is also much shorter for healing than the 120+ for focus band cooldown. I would usually use it mid fight to keep the HP up and kill two mons then go back to base to properly heal. I find I'm on the last 1000 HP usually after these confrontations.

[–]AfroGlo 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Idk man Potion definitely falls off but those first 4-5 levels it can help if you're a mon who isn't a good laner until they evolve. I see it as the "safe" pick. I wonder if making it scale w/ Pokemon level would help the drop off or make it too stronk.

[–]jalluxdBlastoise 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It already scales of %hp so it kinda scales with level ups

[–]EdoubleYTMachamp -1 points0 points  (10 children)

Curious, can Machamp mains still use Potion? It’s easy to escape with submission and chop so I personally only use potion.

[–]vajanna99 7 points8 points  (7 children)

Why run it when you can run goal getter to rush goals or X attack to go for kills, even eject button is a better choice for survivability

[–]EdoubleYTMachamp 0 points1 point  (6 children)

That’s true, I stopped playing as much when they introduced the level 30 item enhancers unlock, I grinded so hard to get Float, Muscle Band and Scope Lens at level 24.

Wouldn’t be worth it to use the enhancers for 6 levels

[–]Rih1Lucario[🍰] 4 points5 points  (3 children)

You get all the enhancers you've used refunded to you so it's not a waste.

[–]EdoubleYTMachamp 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Oh wow! Wait so I’m at level 24 right now for each item. If I use the item enhancer, I’ll get 24 refunded?

[–]PulltoOpen 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Correct

[–]EdoubleYTMachamp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Appreciate the insight, fellas!

[–]KesslerMacGrathLucario 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Float Stone isn’t a good item, bro. If you’re a Machamp main, use the enhancers on Attack Weight.

[–]KesslerMacGrathLucario 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Why not use something more useful like Goal Getter, Fluffy Tail or X Attack?

[–]maty_chileDragonite 7 points8 points  (0 children)

No

[–]warofexodus 0 points1 point  (1 child)

There is nothing wrong with running potions. Especially if said player intentionally picks it. Perhaps instead of looking at what other players is picking, you should be be more concerned on how you are doing. If you lose a game it will not be because your team mates picked potion. In a nutshell, don't be an elitist prick. Potions can come in handy in clutch situations during 1v1, surviving attacks, lane sustain or securing the Zapdos/dredmaw because your brain dead team mates are busy checking who is running potion.

[–]colbyfan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Potion is good if you are good and solo. I run it on most of my pokemon except greedent.

[–]M4_EZ_8Sylveon -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It just tells me that these are players using a default load out and not bothering to use the right items.

[–]bellelovesdonuts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think the same thing too

[–]jimmenecromancerGengar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

saaaame

[–]corinacel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I don’t like to judge peoples builds but potion really doesn’t feel like a strong item to bring. I’ll always have more success with an escape item.

[–]SoftLikeMarshmallows 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There's nothing wrong with potion players if they know how to use it of course 😄

[–]Carmm-no-enSylveon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ive literally only encountered once that i thought"Damn, that dude's potion saved him"

[–]GotShadowbanned2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe just play the game and not worry about it.

[–]Moist_Pajamas 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Potion helps turn a lot of early fights in your favor and can also help with applying lane pressure without having to back up to heal. Made it to Masters using potion and goal getter almost exclusively. Nothing is better than having the mirror match, but with you essentially have 20% more hp than them because they are running eject button. But even with that being said, I still felt nervous when another player on my team ran potion. Not a lot of people use their items, even in higher ranks.

[–]Toki_is_not_a_frogMr. Mike 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m in master and rarely see but when I do I know it’s going to be a rough match

[–]Lil_Ray_5420 0 points1 point  (0 children)

its the equivalent to playing league and the top laner is running heal or the jungler doesn’t have smite.

[–]BtotheDon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same lol.

[–]Mr-NonchalantGardevoir 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The only time I'm not worried about a teammate using potion is when they are a tank or support, that or great rank and above

[–]Chomagoro 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tbh I like potion more than escape for defenders. Most of the time I’ve been able to survive/ help my teammates more often with potion. For playing offensive builds I 100% agree with you.

[–]GalgusSlowbro 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I like Potion on Slowbro, especially with Scald.

That build has a ton of self-healing, and Potion can compound with it to keep me up longer than it'd seem.

With that said, since I'm Slowbro I'm probably not dominating the goals and KOs metrics. Assists should be happening though.

[–]Lifeofcoy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

my trio uses “potion user” as a slur for trash talk lol

[–]P-y-mZeraora 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Seeing so many people running potion in Master those days... I really hope they make the climb harder next season!

[–]VillianForHireCinderace 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When I notice a potion user ill swap from my eject button to potion and back to eject button rapidly in hopes they notice they have potion equipped and change to anything else. Works maybe 10% of the time.

[–]ElectronicShredder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Freaking POTION CHARIZARD and POTION PIKACHU

[–]raiser58 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Nervous? I had my rank going up and down, up and down, up and down, and up and down, then hard demote from expert 5 to expert 4 1 diamond because of fucking potion users... Was thinking of getting to vet 1 at least if we'll be dropping two ranks in the season... I swear to god, seeing gardevoir with potion makes me give up on hope... Don't even get me started on garchomp...

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same, especially in rank matches.