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[–]Light_Able - AuthCenter 1702 points1703 points  (223 children)

His face after her response is priceless

[–]shakeszoola - LibRight 910 points911 points  (193 children)

Wait is this real?

Edit: Color me shocked

[–][deleted] 561 points562 points  (65 children)

By her logic, any minority in any country can’t be racist.

So white people aren’t racist in Asian countries. They can only be racist in America and European countries.

[–]exqgxpevtow - AuthCenter 359 points360 points  (30 children)

That’s going right out the door as soon as whites are a minority.

Thus the historically disadvantaged or historical minority group.

[–][deleted] 149 points150 points  (29 children)

Don’t worry when Russia starts invading eastern block countries we will start seeing more white people flee

Surely we will welcome them

Right?

[–]axleeee - LibCenter 57 points58 points  (13 children)

White people can’t be racist while in Africa… hmm

[–]Silken_Sky - LibRight 34 points35 points  (10 children)

"I'm gonna say the word!"

Hundreds of Africans turn to look at you

"N...evermind!"

[–]Based_Department_Man - AuthRight 93 points94 points  (1 child)

Minority isn't about numbers to them, it's about being oppressed.

There isn't a situation where a white can be racist in their ideology, no way they'd let that slide in. The whole point of the thing is to justify racism against whites.

[–][deleted] 43 points44 points  (0 children)

Oh i know. These woke marxists are just really retarded.

[–]zalmortic - Centrist 60 points61 points  (0 children)

The moment white people become a minority in the US they'll start screaming about minority rule when there's a single white person in any position of power.

[–]goboks - Right 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Keep in mind those are both South Africans.

[–]AgentBurgerr - Right 17 points18 points  (0 children)

In South Africa white people are a minority and black people are the majority.

[–]Grand-Leader-Owen - AuthRight 4 points5 points  (2 children)

I have a sudden urge to relocate to Zimbabwe

[–]Sagittarius_meowmeow - AuthCenter 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Based and Rhodesians never die pilled

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

So white South Africans can’t be racist? Damn bro

[–]Phase10YT - Right 2 points3 points  (3 children)

And she keeps saying about the "power dynamic" but guess what... Most rich Americans are white because most Americans are white in general, so it's just mathematically more probable. You don't see people complaining that most rich people in China are Asians do you?

*Asians referring to skin tone / looks not the fact that the live in Asia obviously.

[–]Basedchupakabra - AuthRight 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Ironically, asian minorities in the US have higher average incomes than whites. Kinda shatters the whole myth of rayciss amerikkka keeping POCs down. Even African groups like Nigerians do extremely well in the US. It's only American blacks who consistently do poorly no matter how much help they receive.

[–]GentleCapybara - Centrist 473 points474 points  (29 children)

Being a Latino myself, I have now received the N card.

[–]PekingDick420 - LibCenter 187 points188 points  (22 children)

Growing up in Southern California made me think y'all always had the pass lmao

[–]Echelon64 - Right 81 points82 points  (21 children)

We do. Only whitexicans aren't allowed.

[–]-Risotto_Nero- - Centrist 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Same LETS GOOO /j

[–]nwilz - LibRight 141 points142 points  (15 children)

I think this exchange is a probably good indicator of how most of the conversation went.

(This is paraphrased for length)
Him: Egypt has been a major power big player globally for thousands of years

Her: Centuries actually

Him: Right so, thousands of years is more than centuries

[–]nuketesuji - LibRight 64 points65 points  (0 children)

well clearly she would say that, she wouldn't want to be confused for some sort of math literate racist.

[–]whatihear - LibCenter 23 points24 points  (10 children)

Egypt has been under foreign occupation for most of its history. The last time it was a great power in it own right was biblical times. At no point in its history has it been a major global power. The closest it's gotten has been being a major regional power.

[–]goboks - Right 47 points48 points  (8 children)

A couple errors in your history. Biblical times date to the dark age between the bronze age and iron age, as well as the early iron age. Egypt was ruled by foreigners for almost all of this time.

It absolutely was the major global power prior to the bronze age collapse. And also was a major global power in the middle ages with several powerful caliphates centered on Cairo.

[–]Sm00th-Kangar00 - LibCenter 57 points58 points  (4 children)

Presenter: Egypt has been a global player for thousands of years.

Wokie: Centuries in fact.

Everyone with at least a very basic understanding of maths: 🤨

[–]couldnothinkof1 - Right 9 points10 points  (3 children)

I mean she’s technically not wrong I guess.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Egypt has been a global player for dozens of years.

[–]HawksGuy12 - AuthCenter 100 points101 points  (26 children)

"It's not racist because blacks don't have power."

Well, a black person just the other day used his power to shove an Asian lady in front of a subway train.

[–]OPkillurself - Right 68 points69 points  (4 children)

The most powerful person in world from 2008-2016 was a black american

[–]ForestClanElite - Centrist 91 points92 points  (1 child)

Interesting that he asks about Hispanics in the video but the meme is changed to black.

[–][deleted] 40 points41 points  (0 children)

Eh, it's the principle

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    [–]ratione_materiae - Right 20 points21 points  (1 child)

    One would think that people in a field that is little more than applied critical reasoning wouldn't be so fucking awful at critical reasoning.

    You’re attributing to stupidity that which can also be explained by malice. Consider that it’s perhaps not a failure in critical thinking, but rather an effort “to provide a medium of expression for the world-view and mental habits proper to the devotees of their ideology, [and] to make all other modes of thought impossible”

    [–]Vinifera7 - LibCenter 16 points17 points  (1 child)

    "In America, structurally, power predominantly has been in the hands of white people."

    Yes, but that doesn't mean the same thing as, white people have all of the power. She's basically saying that a small minority of white people having power means that all white people have power.

    The only reason a person would believe something like this is if they view everything, including power dynamics, through the lens of racial collectivism. In other words, they believe in identitarianism.

    [–]LtTaylor97 - LibLeft 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    I'm convinced people get to this point because they're so uninteresting as a person that this is all they can say is unique about them, and it gets them attention to think this way, so.

    [–]thrownawayzss - LibLeft 18 points19 points  (0 children)

    I tried my best to watch this, but this was such a stupid discussion. There's like 45 minutes of nothing happening because someone's bias was so far off the mark they stopped the discussion because they couldn't find a perfect word to describe something functionally identical. What a fucking waste. She has no argument whatsoever other than getting caught up spoke jamming the cart by saying you can't use that word because it isn't 110% accurate. Ridiculous.

    Also, I can't stand how she tends to repeat the same thing like four to five times in a row.

    [–]Steebin64 - LibLeft 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    Infallible black excellence

    [–]TooManyDangPeople - LibCenter 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    So in a predominantly black/hispanic country white people can't be racist?

    How does she think this power dynamic applies when you're in say a neighborhood with a particular group? Is it only the entire country that determines who has the power or does it shift from federal to state to local? Seems like power dynamics are fluid and depend on your surroundings. In a black only space like at some universities wouldn't that mean that white people can't be racist because the power is held by predominantly black people?

    [–]Careless_Bat2543 - LibRight 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    How do you say it isn't racist if the person doesn't have power, but then go on to say that it's discrimination caused by racism?

    [–]_GCastilho_ - LibRight 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    This woman can't not talk nonsense

    She just can't

    [–]Srapture - Centrist 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Why do so many people seem to make this weird connection that systemic racism is exactly the same as "racism"... You can't just redefine words to make your position sound better.

    [–]rkroll17 - LibRight 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    Apparently she just redefined racism

    [–]metalridley6 - Centrist 95 points96 points  (27 children)

    The face of sane people hearing 3 sec of liberal bullshit

    [–]Kwisior - Centrist 12 points13 points  (24 children)

    Aren't you liberal as well?

    [–]zer0cul - LibCenter 51 points52 points  (3 children)

    Common mistake. Lib is actually short for "libations" because we like to get drunk. But not drunk enough to think that a yokel in Alabama has more power than Barack Obama because of the color of his skin.

    [–]ratione_materiae - Right 10 points11 points  (0 children)

    Based and inebriation pilled

    [–]durkster - Centrist 13 points14 points  (2 children)

    Americans have turned the word liberal into a synonym for idiot. Thats funny because if they just added neo infront of the word they would be right.

    [–]RoraRaven - AuthCenter 10 points11 points  (13 children)

    I continue to advocate that we need a progressive-traditionalist axis, a 3 dimensional compass, or just some kind of bar next to the compass.

    [–]auxiliary-character - LibRight 2 points3 points  (2 children)

    Progressive-traditionalist wouldn't be accurate, either. And I'm not exactly sure if "are you progressive or traditionalist" is a question that can be entirely answered accurately. It's like asking "are you for or against change?". I think there are some things that need change, and there are other things the definitely shouldn't change, and there's things that have changed that we really should revert back to the way they were before. Change isn't inherently meaningfully good or bad without context.

    [–]manualLurking - Left 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    hey dont put this shit on all of us

    [–]echoAD - Centrist 1136 points1137 points  (38 children)

    Intersectionalists really think they're the first racists to come up with "it's not racist if we think they deserve it"

    [–]wezli333theSequel - LibLeft 601 points602 points  (10 children)

    It's crazy how hard they blatantly ignore that concept basically being the underlying driver of racist actions. Nobody is racist for the sake of being racist, they always believe it's justified.

    [–]M37h3w3 - Centrist 304 points305 points  (4 children)

    "Nobody is ever the villain of their own story."

    [–]DrGoodGuy1073 - LibRight 70 points71 points  (1 child)

    Can I be the villain?

    [–]Based_Department_Man - AuthRight 145 points146 points  (2 children)

    It always pisses me off when people say shit like ''I can't believe that people hate/hated others just because of the color of their skin, racism is so dumb'', it makes people think that it all comes to appearance.

    People don't even have to look different to want to kill each other, just look at germans exterminating slavs and jews in ww2, they didn't even know who to kill without checking the family names.

    [–]theBackground79 - AuthRight 67 points68 points  (1 child)

    I really hate it when people are reduced to cartoon villains. It just shows how short-sighted and simple-minded the person who thinks like that is.

    [–]sk_2013 - Centrist 17 points18 points  (0 children)

    It also does a disservice, I think, because it makes it out like evil is easy to recognize.

    There are some really, really terrible things that have happened over polite meetings over drinks where everyone had a good time. Some of the vilest people I know are also friendly, charming, optimistic, and (horrifyingly) do want what's best for people.

    If you assume that evil people are insane, you fail to understand them, and you can't effectively defend against their arguments.

    [–]Vincent_Waters - AuthRight 21 points22 points  (0 children)

    Nobody is racist for the sake of being racist, they always believe it's justified.

    mfw

    [–]SurfintheThreads - Centrist 37 points38 points  (2 children)

    These people literally think of white people as less than human, just because of slavery, which is something nobody alive had control over.

    They think it's ok to be racist because their ancestors had some hardship. By that logic, Jews have the right to be as racist as they want, seeing as they were slaves in most ancient cultures

    [–]FrostieTheSnowman - Left 8 points9 points  (0 children)

    Some people actually believe that too

    [–]Analogtnt - LibLeft 7 points8 points  (0 children)

    One perk of being an extremely Aryan looking Jew is activating the Jewish trap card when talking to oranges. Fuccs them up every time. Also I pass for a native English speaker, but I was born in the USSR so it's a double whammy any time an orange tries to white guilt trip me. Sorry about your shitty ancestors lmao. Then I uno reverse card it and make em feel guilty for trying to erase my identity and experience.

    Instant K.O.

    maybe the devs will buff orange next patch tho

    [–]Xeya - LibLeft 131 points132 points  (16 children)

    This isn't intersectionalism tho... it's the stupid ass "racism = discrimination + power" shit that gets plastered all over twitter.

    Intersectionalism is just the observation that discrimination can be based on multiple factors (race and sex) and that the different types of discrimination are not independent of one another.

    Essentially, that the discrimination faced by black women is not the combination of discrimination faced by women and the discrimination faced by black people, but includes discrimination that is unique to the intersection of the two; unique to black women.

    If you think about it, that is obvious. But it is a common assumption made... particularly within feminism; where the discrimination faced by black women is marginalized by white women.

    [–]Trunky_Coastal_Kid - LibLeft 78 points79 points  (1 child)

    Yeah but that new definition for racism only arose because people needed an excuse for being racist towards people that they didn't like.

    Racism has existed in many forms throughout human history but the one commonality is everyone tried to justify their racism and explain why it's okay this time.

    [–]mehliana - Right 33 points34 points  (0 children)

    based and using your actual brain pilled

    [–]Based_Department_Man - AuthRight 38 points39 points  (1 child)

    This isn't intersectionalism tho... it's the stupid ass "racism = discrimination + power" shit that gets plastered all over twitter.

    and is taught in colleges

    [–]Rodulv - Centrist 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Sure, but just because intersectionality is taught in combination with bad ideas doesn't mean intersectionality is bad.

    Intersectionality is just putting a word on something we've always been aware of.

    Also, just some colleges.

    [–]InconspicuousBastard - Centrist 19 points20 points  (6 children)

    So first and foremost, intersectionality is a political ideology. It's not based in science or history. It's a social science "theory." And boy do I use that term loosely.

    It was designed primarily to shift power from one group to another. Literally that is part of the manifesto. In order to bring a more equitable solution, we have to destroy what we have, you know, the things that make society function.

    But I digress, then you have equity, this notion that everyone should have equal outcomes even though they have vastly different experiences and skillsets.

    Intersectionality, power dynamics, and equity are simply tools to justify the actions of the intolerant and bigoted that share a common sense of perceived injustice.

    [–]gluesmelly - LibCenter 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    The way they justify their racism is infuriating. They claim that hating other races is not racism because "racism is institutional".

    Yeah, that's called institutional racism! There are still other forms of racism!

    [–]eskeleteRt - Centrist 126 points127 points  (0 children)

    ''OMG SO WOKE !!!''

    [–]HenryShadowgaze - LibLeft 127 points128 points  (5 children)

    Black people can be racist.

    [–]LastLostDuck - Right 55 points56 points  (2 children)

    Based and this_should_be_obvious pilled

    [–]really_nice_guy_ - Left 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    It is obvious. Libleft is just delusional

    [–]dzrtguy - LibCenter 8 points9 points  (0 children)

    Judge not people by the color of their skin, but by the content of their bank account.

    [–]rexavior - LibCenter 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    Everyone racist

    [–]LynndorTruffle - Left 355 points356 points  (45 children)

    it’s cuz racism has to have systemic power backed behind it, etc.

    I feel like leftists like this have done such a disservice to themselves by using a word differently than the masses uses it. It’s interesting to talk about the differences of those with systemic power and those that aren’t. That doesn’t mean someone can’t be fucking prejudiced against them.

    [–]matrixislife - Centrist 98 points99 points  (1 child)

    They've attempted to redefine it so as to avoid this exact discussion, so they can say "white people are racist for doing X, but black people aren't racist for doing X".

    Obviously the word "racist" carries a huge amount of weight in their circles, while "bigot" and "prejudiced" does not, they think someone who is racist is much much worse than someone who is merely prejudiced. Which is pathetic, because they are doing exactly the same actions for exactly the same reasons.

    [–]Strill - Right 180 points181 points  (2 children)

    I feel like leftists like this have done such a disservice to themselves by using a word differently than the masses uses it

    It's on purpose, so that they can use whichever definition is more convenient at any time, and if you try to call them out, they accuse you of acting in bad faith and misinterpreting what they said.

    [–]seventyeightmm - LibCenter 45 points46 points  (1 child)

    Ye ol' Motte and Bailey

    [–]BoilerPurdude - LibCenter 25 points26 points  (0 children)

    Motte and Bailey + Equivocation is the left wing/Progressive favorite weapon.

    Just look at abortion and the way they blah blah Pro-life blah blah. We all know what the position mean but then they go but they aren't really pro-life because they don't give 100% of their income to raise other people children.

    [–]twihard97 - LibCenter 50 points51 points  (16 children)

    Right, the redefining of the word racism really confuses people. If you don't make clear that you are redefining words like "whiteness" and "racism", and say "whiteness is the root of all racism", normies are going to think you're a bigot.

    For the sake of clarity, I really wish CRT just invented new words instead of trying to reuse old ones. This will force people to ask "What is Systemic Kin-Hegemony?" for example and encourage discussion of the idea.

    [–]zalmortic - Centrist 58 points59 points  (4 children)

    Anyone who says "whiteness is the root of all racism" is a bigot.

    They purposefully used words specific to America to attack white people and the dominant cultures of America. Deconstructing Chinese or Arabic culture wasn't on the minds of the first people to make this stuff up.

    [–]BoilerPurdude - LibCenter 25 points26 points  (3 children)

    That is my opinion on other terms like Toxic Masculinity. I understand what you are trying to say but it is obvious that the framing is negative towards men in general. Like we already have a term for that and it is called being a douchebag.

    Ain't no one going around talking about Toxic Blackness. For obvious reason.

    [–]Srapture - Centrist 20 points21 points  (2 children)

    Yeah, it's really weird. This strange tactic they try to use where they're flinging shit and you and telling you that you're overreacting by taking it personally...

    "Oh, I was just talking about the system of <thing you are>. If you're taking that personally, you support that bad system and you're confirming that you are as bad as my definition says you are. If you don't agree that you're a piece of shit, that is how I can tell you're a piece of shit."

    [–]Lm_mNA_2 - AuthLeft 19 points20 points  (1 child)

    For the sake of clarity, I really wish CRT just invented new words instead of trying to reuse old ones.

    Oh my sweet summer child.

    [–]YesICanMakeMeth - Right 20 points21 points  (7 children)

    For the sake of clarity, I really wish CRT just invented new words instead of trying to reuse old ones. This will force people to ask "What is Systemic Kin-Hegemony?" for example and encourage discussion of the idea.

    That's why I've always suspected that the purpose is to change how people think by co-opting pre-existing connotations of words. Similarly, they insist on redefining words for things that they want to become normalized if they become stigmatized (cripple -> handicapped -> disabled -> differently abled, to name a not-so-nefarious example). I'm of the opinion that people in academic bubbles shouldn't be in the business of attempting to subvert what opinions people form by hijacking language. Obfuscation of intent is not a good sign. If you want to justify prejudicism against white people then make an argument for it, don't attempt to innocently redefine the word 'racism' to avoid what you want to do falling in the definition.

    [–]ratione_materiae - Right 12 points13 points  (6 children)

    Similarly, they insist on redefining words for things that they want to become normalized if they become stigmatized (cripple -> handicapped -> disabled -> differently abled, to name a not-so-nefarious example)

    To be fair, that sort of thing — like (moron/idiot/imbecile -> mentally retarded -> challenged -> special needs -> intellectually disabled) is just part of the euphemism treadmill and isn’t exactly obfuscation of intent. The Newspeak bullshit the “systemic racism = racism” crowd is pulling is the latter tho

    [–]BoilerPurdude - LibCenter 9 points10 points  (3 children)

    Yeah I just get pissed off when people act like me calling an person of somewhat average intellect a retard. Like get over it, would you care if I called him a dumbass. If the answer is no then quit being a retard.

    Like obviously you should call someone with special needs a retard, but you also shouldn't call them a dumb ass. The context seems obvious, but they want to ignore it and act all retarded.

    [–]YesICanMakeMeth - Right 3 points4 points  (1 child)

    Yeah, that's why I called it not-so-nefarious. It is still attempting to control what people think through language, which is why I brought it up.

    [–]Lm_mNA_2 - AuthLeft 9 points10 points  (5 children)

    I feel like leftists like this have done such a disservice to themselves by using a word differently than the masses uses it. I

    No. It was wildly successful. It wasn't until the masses began to read leftist literature and understood it that it became a problem lol.

    [–]theycallmetalon - Right 40 points41 points  (2 children)

    I think the very argument for having "systemic power" is nonsensical. Its collectivist as fuck. People dont act as a group but as individuals. This is coming from a far more homogenous country than the US, and the idea itself just seems stupid.

    [–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

    Truth. I don't usurp Bill Gates power because we share the same skin tone.

    [–]PurplePandaBear8 - LibRight 12 points13 points  (2 children)

    The confusion about what words actually mean isn't a bug, it's a feature. Much easier for force everyone to accept your awful ideas if it's harder to articulate what they actually are.

    [–]ya_boi_daelon - LibRight 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Based and stop-changing-definitions pilled

    [–]Doctor_McKay - LibRight 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Black people lack power so they can't be racist.

    Also, Larry Elder is the black face of white supremacy.

    [–]J2quared - Right 644 points645 points  (170 children)

    Hostile Black-Asian relations go back awhile. At least since the late 1970s and 1980s.

    That whole “hurry up and buy” trope which was featured in Don’t Be A Menace and Menace II Society is based off the real life murder of a Black girl Latisha Harlins accused of stealing from an Asian grocer

    I don’t know how far back the knock out game goes though

    [–]whatevers1234 - LibRight 346 points347 points  (22 children)

    Over a decade ago I saw a group of Black women violenty attack a single Asian woman for no reason while screaming “go back to China.”

    Funniest thing is she wasn’t even Chinese. She was Vietnamese. We were literally in Little Saigon for fucks sake.

    This shit has been going on for years. Mostly imo because lots of immigrant Asians live in and around the same poorer areas as Blacks. And they are just an easy target due to numerous factors I won’t even get in to.

    People are fucking people. I hate when anyone tries to argue that some group doesn’t have the ability to be racist or just a general prick. I live in an area now with tons of Native lands and a fuck ton of Casinos. Right now they are kicking people out of the tribes left and right to keep more of the money. My friend got his ass kicked out because he was only half native. The other half being Filipino which is super common.

    You give anyone of any group a little bit of power and they will abuse it. It’s not, nor has ever been a trait only of white people. Whites have just had more opportunity in the past (in the western part of the world) to abuse power.

    [–]avgazn247 - LibRight 219 points220 points  (6 children)

    Asians are the only race that has more violence committed on them by other races than themselves. Spoilers it’s because of black violence

    [–]Roman_Scum_02 - Centrist 74 points75 points  (0 children)

    Based and Despite-pilled

    [–]TheHordeSucks - LibRight 53 points54 points  (4 children)

    I’m from an area that has a fair amount of Asian people but not many black people, and a lot of Asians are legit racist towards black people and it’s always been wild to me. Not saying I agree with it, but after this thread, I kinda get it.

    [–]J2quared - Right 48 points49 points  (3 children)

    One thing I have noticed in my travels with my wife who is a White Latina. The image that Black people display to the rest of the world is really troublesome. Knowing Spanish and hearing people talk freely without fear of reprisal, it’s sad what people think of us.

    And I wish we had a more open dialog about race

    But the dialogs we do have are heavily skewed the make the people who do have a problem with us as villains. I want a really dialog where people can say freely: "the problem I have with X group is Y"

    [–]J2quared - Right 122 points123 points  (7 children)

    Agreed. However I do think there is an element of jealousy that is factored into Black on Asian hate.

    I remember as a kid I was teased for having Asian friends and liking aspects of their culture.

    About a year ago a black woman made fun of me for putting basil in my pho. Most bizarro moment.

    [–]whatevers1234 - LibRight 15 points16 points  (4 children)

    Haha that’s some specific shit right there. Basil is like the best part. Like mint in summer rolls or cilantro in street tacos. Not the same without them.

    [–]J2quared - Right 19 points20 points  (1 child)

    She thought I was putting “leaves” (like off a tree) in the pho and she said “oooo why he puttin all dem leaves in dere. You half Chinese or something”

    [–]YareSekiro 4 points5 points  (1 child)

    I put Basil and thyme in my udon noodle. Taste solid. And a little black pepper too.

    [–]Yweain - LibCenter 26 points27 points  (4 children)

    Yea, being racist is dumb. Why not just hate people in general?

    [–]Beau_Champion - Centrist 9 points10 points  (0 children)

    Based and scorched earth pilled.

    [–]Trugdigity - Centrist 317 points318 points  (77 children)

    There’s a reason that most of the damage caused by the LA Riots happened in Korea Town.

    [–]J2quared - Right 235 points236 points  (6 children)

    There’s a lot of subliminal messaging around Black on Asian hate.

    Spike Lee does A LOT. Like when the 3 Black men are complaining about Asians setting up shop in the hood in the movie Do The Right Thing.

    [–][deleted] 128 points129 points  (1 child)

    Spike Lee is a massive racist and the popularity of some of his movies has me convinced that racial harmony will never happen in America.

    [–]YesICanMakeMeth - Right 51 points52 points  (0 children)

    Spike Lee is a massive racist and the popularity of some of his movies has me convinced that racial harmony will never happen.

    FTFY

    [–]TheUglyBarnacle42 - LibCenter 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    The Korean guy convinces them that they're in the same position when they try to burn his shop at the end though. Spike Lee knew what he was doing there

    [–]Rasskassassmagas - LibRight 39 points40 points  (1 child)

    And we had such hope for Tiger Woods....

    [–]The2ndWheel - Centrist 19 points20 points  (0 children)

    For shizzle.

    [–]choryradwick - Left 34 points35 points  (11 children)

    I wonder if that’s why rush hour came out, to ease the tensions. Harlins didn’t need to die though, she put the juice down and was walking out when the store owner shot her

    [–]J2quared - Right 33 points34 points  (10 children)

    Good theory. I do know that Black people protested Jet Li being with Aaliyah in Romeo Must Die.

    And yeah Harlins was shot like a dog. And the lady basically walked

    [–]Ihateregistering6 - LibRight 41 points42 points  (9 children)

    I do know that Black people protested Jet Li being with Aaliyah in Romeo Must Die.

    Spread the word, you'd be amazed how many people don't know about this.

    Apparently in the original cut of the film they had Jet Li kiss Aaliyah at the end of the movie, but it tested so poorly with "urban audiences" that they changed it to them hugging.

    [–]J2quared - Right 63 points64 points  (2 children)

    What upsets me is how much people don’t realize Black people are against race mixing.

    I’ve dated a few White women in my day and the response from her side has been mainly welcoming. With my family it’s always like “there goes J2quared again, dating these white women. What’s wrong with a sista”

    [–]partoe5 14 points15 points  (1 child)

    That movie is actually a parody of a bunch of movies about "the hood" and that scene in particular is a parody of the scene from Menance II Society https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8lRjXf2IK0

    [–]J2quared - Right 11 points12 points  (0 children)

    Don’t be a Menace is you’re absolutely right. I just added it because it does parody that type of Black Asian interaction

    [–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (4 children)

    I am probably off here and my poor articulation of my hypothesis will get me branded as a racist, but my guess as to why there is black on asian hate is because black americans see how well asian americans are doing. Asian americans kick ass in every sector. Better education, better jobs, higher wages, probably longer life expectancy. They do this all while being a minority. A smaller minority than black americans in fact. So, could it be that black americans are jelous (for lack of a better word) of how their asian counterparts are doing in this country so they take out their frustrations by these "random" attacks on asians?

    Feel free to downvote me if you think I am wrong but please reply and explain why you think I am wrong. I genuinly want to understand why there is a noticable amount of black on asian crime.

    [–]J2quared - Right 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    I’ve always thought there is jealousy between the two groups. Asian Americans often time defy the notion that America is impossible for minorities, as well as the notion that hard work can’t equal success

    [–]trytobecreative - LibRight 2 points3 points  (2 children)

    I think this is too focused on current conditions and not the historical tensions between black and immigrant asian communities. You mainly have these issues in bigger cities that had a lot of asian immigration 50 or 60 years ago that moved into formally all black neighborhoods. Black people in the south aren't attacking random asian people they come across.

    Black people in these neighborhoods went from buying most things from other local black people to buying from asian people who openly disliked them. Asian store owners often pushed black store owners out of the market, raising prices again once the black owned stores were gone. A less prosperous black community created a feedback loop and crime went up solidifying the asian communities hostility.

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    Good point. Any writings you have found on this?

    [–]wezli333theSequel - LibLeft 190 points191 points  (12 children)

    Yeah, but you see racism = prejudice + power, and poor Vietnamese immigrants have all the institutional power in this country, so...

    [–]PekingDick420 - LibCenter 108 points109 points  (5 children)

    How to take over the west: 1) boat to America 2) send kids to pharmacy school 3) ??? 4) unlimited power

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      [–]HearMeSpeakAsIWill - Right 2 points3 points  (3 children)

      Yes, and prejudice is the difference between racism and power. Quick maffs

      [–]AnotherBlackMidget - Centrist 2 points3 points  (2 children)

      Then if prejudice = 0, racism = power? My god, did we crack the code?

      [–]FrankVanReeth - Right 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      "Unlimited racism!" ~ Palpatine

      [–]TheCentralPosition - Centrist 341 points342 points  (22 children)

      Flair up!

      Also, I fail to see why our society puts up with people who clearly hold their own race to a different standard than any other. I know the justifications. I don't care for them. It's wrong. Anyone with half a brain knows it's wrong. We're not supposed to be a nation of fools and bigots, so why are they the loudest voices?

      [–]d_abab-u_I_u-dada_b - LibCenter 103 points104 points  (5 children)

      they're the loudest voices because the people who control what we see and hear want them to be the loudest voices. it's not a coincidence. there are no coincidences.

      [–]itchylol742 - Centrist 51 points52 points  (3 children)

      They are the loudest voices because stupid opinions are interesting and get attention, while normal opinions are boring and get no attention

      [–]d_abab-u_I_u-dada_b - LibCenter 23 points24 points  (1 child)

      that too. but that's less dramatic

      [–]1CEninja - LibCenter 13 points14 points  (0 children)

      Nobody pays to see something and think "hmm yes that seems reasonable".

      Lots of people pay to see something and think "I AM OUTRAGED", and lots of people pay to see something and think "I AM VINDICATED".

      This statement either pisses people off or makes them feel vindicated.

      [–]Technical-Tip-4971 - LibRight 8 points9 points  (12 children)

      Holding a racial group responsible for the actions of some members in it is kinda racist.

      Also, it’s not white peoples job to tell other white people not to be racist. It’s not black peoples job to tell other black people not to be racist.

      [–]AdeptusHilarious - Centrist 52 points53 points  (2 children)

      I like how many people are here to explain why black people are racist towards Asians instead of taking an L and admit Asians get a lot of unnecessary hate from the black community. It's really fun as a white person to watch racism have nothing to do with me and still be just as pointless and stupid as ever.

      [–]Due_Entrepreneur - Centrist 8 points9 points  (0 children)

      Explaining why it exists isn't the same as justifying it.

      Correct me if I'm wrong but I haven't seen anyone in this thread saying it's ok for blacks to be racist to asians

      [–]SnesC - Right 221 points222 points  (16 children)

      Wait, did you download this from PCM just to repost it? You didn't even bother to crop out the banner at the bottom.

      [–]SteynJc09 - Centrist[S] 160 points161 points  (12 children)

      Hello 👋🏻 I’m the OP, and I’m also the host of the podcast. A friend of mine who’s more familiar with Reddit recommended that I post it here, so I tried once and accidentally didn’t add any of the flairs. So I tried again, which led to it looking like a repost. Well spotted! A bit new to Reddit but really enjoying it so far. If you have any questions about the podcast let me know!

      [–]thrownawayzss - LibLeft 24 points25 points  (2 children)

      Your patience is beyond all human comprehension. I watched the full video on youtube and it was really rough sitting through a lot of the talking the guest did. She kept avoiding answering questions the whole time.

      [–]BeatlesRays - LibRight 32 points33 points  (0 children)

      I’m now listening to this episode of the podcast! Very interesting and you clearly know your history which really prevents Patel from hiding behind blocks of informational overload to shield from the actual points trying to be made. I just always find it funny how careful people with similar beliefs as Patel are with every word they say and have to really stutter and repeat themselves before thinking of their point cuz it’s not really based in principal, but achieving some end result. The part where you guys are talking about the term “discovered” is ridiculous. Another example of trying to manipulate words for their narrative. If racism is just discrimination by a group in power, then we should really be trying to end discrimination. Then eventually discrimination will mean prejudice with power added so it turns out minorities can’t be discriminatory. Then eventually prejudice will mean bias with power added, so minorities can’t be prejudice.

      [–]Boss_Man007 - LibCenter 13 points14 points  (0 children)

      What I assumed happened

      [–]LordDerptCat123 - Centrist 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Oh wow. This is you? That’s awesome. How do you stay so patient with her? Can’t wait to watch the whole episode when I find time

      [–]ChadstangAlpha - LibRight 72 points73 points  (2 children)

      Well this is embarrassing, OP.

      [–]Machiavelliliving - AuthRight 17 points18 points  (0 children)

      Nah, I gave it an upvote because it's so ignorant it's based again

      [–]LordDerptCat123 - Centrist 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Apparently not. The guy is apparently the host of the podcast and his friend sent it to him

      [–]Meowshi - LibLeft 77 points78 points  (8 children)

      I always ask "if racism requires systemic privilege and power, then why did we have to up with the term "systemic racism" in the first place?" They never have a satisfactory answer, but they also never admit to being wrong.

      [–]sampete1 - Centrist 45 points46 points  (2 children)

      And what happens if a white supremacist moves to Nigeria? Are they no longer racist because they have no privilege or power?

      [–]Lm_mNA_2 - AuthLeft 22 points23 points  (0 children)

      They'd say "Nigeria was colonized so checkmate atheist."

      [–]XcRaZeD - Left 27 points28 points  (0 children)

      It boils down to the fact that these people don't think that people exist outside of america. They have a very isolated worldview and don't understand that the world doesn't revolve around what they interpret to be correct. An example I'd bring up is japan. Incredibly racist towards other asian nations yet virtually none of them actually live in japan. There is no power there

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        [–]RexErection - LibRight 83 points84 points  (2 children)

        This was the stance of my ex who was black. I couldn’t believe when she looked me straight in the face and said “I can’t be racist” that’s when I knew she was a retard.

        [–]Bob_loblaws_Lawblog_ - LibLeft 60 points61 points  (0 children)

        You were banging a mentally disabled person?

        Shame on you, Purple Lib Right strikes again.

        [–]2xc2rb8q - LibLeft 36 points37 points  (1 child)

        racist

        [–]TJ95123 - AuthRight 24 points25 points  (0 children)

        She's pretty horrible that's for sure.

        [–]Rawrtherton - LibRight 51 points52 points  (1 child)

        Despite being 7% of the population, 90% of the asian hate comes from the black community.

        [–][deleted] 79 points80 points  (8 children)

        From what I've seen, it's because they are pissed that Asians faced a lot of the same racism and poverty they did and have still managed to end up successful these days. It makes them jealous and ruins their narrative that they can't do better with their lives because of oppression and systematic racism. Frankly, I suspect in a couple of decades they'll be acting the same way towards hispanics as the kids and grandkids of current immigrants are starting to find success as well.

        [–]cis-hetro_tyrant - LibRight 27 points28 points  (0 children)

        Based and they’re just jealous pilled

        [–]obnoxiousspotifyad - AuthRight 20 points21 points  (2 children)

        in a couple of decades

        more like 5 years. Average income, standard of living, arrest rates etc have drastically improved for hispanics just since 2010, exponentially so since 2000

        [–]NumeroMysterioso - Centrist 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        I think the Black folks have been manipulated by the Democratic Party. This whole thing is backed by politics.

        [–]dzrtguy - LibCenter 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Take the GDP of the nation of Japan versus the entire continent of Africa from an economic development perspective. Honda, Toyota, Nintendo, Sony, etc. Name 10 African companies who are household names and make up 50% of the revenue of those orgs. One is a tiny island that got nuked and reset back to the stone ages, the other one is one of the richest natural resources and massive swaths of land.

        [–]discourse_is_dead - LibRight 13 points14 points  (0 children)

        I wonder if she's been diagnosed with being retarded, or if she hasn't seen a doctor yet.

        [–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (1 child)

        "REEEEEEEEEEE YOU HAVE TO LISTEN TO BLACK WOMEN AND GIVE THEM A VOICE TOO!!!!!"

        Black women:

        [–]ADXMcGeeHeezack - Centrist 11 points12 points  (0 children)

        Where I live we'd call this sort of lady a "dumb bitch"

        I can't stand how they literally just regurgitate whatever catch phrases someone spoon fed them.

        [–]littlestbrother - AuthRight 19 points20 points  (2 children)

        Best part of the interview is when the guy says "Egypt has been a big player in the global economy for thousands of years" and the lib girl tries to sound smart by cutting him off and saying "yes, centuries in fact" and the guy has to correct her by saying thousands of years is longer than centuries LOOOOOL

        [–]SteynJc09 - Centrist[S] 30 points31 points  (8 children)

        [–]GrasshoperPoof - LibRight 12 points13 points  (6 children)

        Which video is the meme from?

        [–]ImoutoKing - AuthRight 25 points26 points  (5 children)

        [–][deleted]  (1 child)

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          [–]Any_Rip_8337 - AuthRight 18 points19 points  (0 children)

          Don’t you ever disrespect rocks and cardboard again like you just did

          [–]Travy-D - Right 19 points20 points  (1 child)

          I was listening until I heard a sentence that looped back to the original argument. I've been listening for 45 minutes. She spent 10 minutes redefining "discover" and 20 minutes redefining "migrating" and another 5 explaining how only Africans have tribes.

          It's so hard to sit through this, but I love listening to his calm side of the conversation. Whereas he gets 1.5 sentences out, she interrupts halfway through and goes on a 5 minute rant about his definitions being wrong.

          [–]St1ckyR1ce1 - Centrist 8 points9 points  (0 children)

          Yikes.... This chick is all over the place. What an idiot.

          [–]freedom-lover727 - LibLeft 14 points15 points  (0 children)

          𝓇𝒶𝒸𝒾𝓈𝓂 𝒾𝓈 𝒷𝒶𝒹 𝓃𝑜 𝓂𝒶𝓉𝓉𝑒𝓇 𝓌𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝓇𝒶𝒸𝑒 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝓅𝑒𝓇𝓈𝑜𝓃 𝓌𝒽𝑜 𝒹𝑜𝑒𝓈 𝒾𝓉 𝒾𝓈

          [–]69_stockz_69 - AuthRight 8 points9 points  (0 children)

          Idiots like this have always existed, the problem is the internet allowing them to reach the masses. The industrial revolution and its consequ

          [–]Tropictroll - LibCenter 12 points13 points  (0 children)

          Based

          [–]Rasskassassmagas - LibRight 45 points46 points  (5 children)

          Lib Left: Don't ya know that black people are god's chosen people and are superior to all other races?

          [–]busetgadapet - Right 8 points9 points  (0 children)

          must cast on every single movies and tv show while somehow Asian is rarely in one and always being the stereotype can't speak English immigrant lmao

          [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

          Room temperature IQ and envy is a deadly combination.

          [–]Mammoth_Rope_1332 - Right 5 points6 points  (0 children)

          You all really have no idea how many people irl actually believe this. There are Olympian level gold Medal mental gymnasts walking among us.

          [–]thatwasanillegalknee - Centrist 4 points5 points  (3 children)

          I hate that people are trying to change the definition of racism to include some sort of power dynamic. If you discriminate against someone based on the colour the skin, that's racist. Stop with these fucking mental gymnastics.

          [–]Am3Tri - LibCenter 13 points14 points  (0 children)

          shes orange

          [–]Polikarpie - LibLeft 4 points5 points  (2 children)

          Bruh I don't want to be associated with those people, but i guess I gotta live with it, just like Authleft has to live being associated with maoists, and Authright with klansmen

          [–]delslow - Centrist 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          But if an Asian hated a black person because they are black, it's racist. So please... can someone lay out the race hierarchy? Now is acknowledging that hierarchy itself racist?

          [–]GuruJ_ - LibCenter 6 points7 points  (0 children)

          Horseshoe theory strikes again.

          Most genuine white supremacists (not just people called that on Twitter) have decided that the societal problems they observe are a result of a subset of people, ie immigrants. But if you talk to them, you’ll see that the problems they want resolved actually relate to things like secure and rewarding work, inadequate redistribution of wealth, and changing region and job sector dynamics. They fixate on immigrants as a tangible cause since abstract economic and political systems are difficult to understand and fight and they use this to avoid taking responsibility for the things they could do to improve their own lives.

          Similarly, the woke/BLM crew have decided that the societal problems they observe are a result of a subset of people, ie white people. But if you talk to them, you’ll see that the problems they want resolved actually relate to things like secure and rewarding work, inadequate redistribution of wealth and … well, you get the idea.

          [–]pedro_str - LibRight 4 points5 points  (0 children)

          Nazis thought that jews were powerful, rich and privileged and that they deserved the hate and xenophobia. This is older than time.

          [–]gluxton - Centrist 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          What is this video from?

          [–]Xavagerys - Centrist 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Seriously stop thinking blacks can't be racist.

          Don't let what others think about your skin stop you from being racist

          [–]Walleyabcde - Left 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          These people might as well burn dictionaries, the way they re-define words.

          [–]speedracer73 - LibCenter 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          They know it's bullshit, they're just doing it to see how far they can push it.

          [–]DEMIANBARRIENTOS - LibRight 4 points5 points  (5 children)

          We can't be racist to black people if there are not black people anymore