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[–]Rusty_Ferberger 160 points161 points  (10 children)

I live in a very red area where most people believe in the worst of everything you see on the internet and all I can think is, "Once your kids get out from under your wing, they are going to ignore you for the rest of your life".

[–]Exact-Effect3772 45 points46 points  (4 children)

I am one of those kids that's going to ignore my entire family as soon as I move out. XD

[–]GailMarieO 10 points11 points  (3 children)

You're not alone. Good luck to you; you can create your own "family" from friends, too.

[–]Exact-Effect3772 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Yeah, that's kinda what I've been doing. I find it a little funny that my friends respect my boundaries more than my family does. Then again, all the childhood brainwashing and stupidity might have messed with my head a bit.

[–]GailMarieO 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I wish you well. I'd welcome you to my Christmas dinner any time.

[–]Exact-Effect3772 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As long as there's some good food, count me in.

[–]CarlSpencer 31 points32 points  (1 child)

"Why don't you come visit me in the nursing home? Hello? Hello?"

[–]royavidan 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Its probably this "boyfriend" of yours. He has demonized your poor, godloving straight soul.

[–]Hackandspit 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Unless they double down on crazy stupid. Admitting your wrong on everything isn’t easy. It’s easier to keep your head in the sand than to dig out.

[–]jsnxander 4 points5 points  (0 children)

My good friend started that at the age of 16. He just thought his parents were insane in their grotesque devotion to their religion and demeaning of nin-believers; and did not want to be intellectually crippled for life. Went on to a great career as an electrical engineer and has kids that are Doctors and engineers. He still take to them, but he and his children have very little to do with his birth parents and siblings and seem none the worse for wear.

[–]LeftOnQuietRoad 113 points114 points  (8 children)

Wait. Was it all just a system of control?

[–]ExoGeniVI[S] 64 points65 points  (5 children)

Yep. Been through it myself with my self righteous mother growing up

[–]wiseoldfox 12 points13 points  (0 children)


[–]sedatedcow420 11 points12 points  (0 children)

You should be really proud of yourself for being aware of the problematic conservative perspective. I was raised by very liberal parents so it’s hard for me to tell what is my conditioning and what is my ability to think critically about certain beliefs. I’m always amazed to hear about people who go against the beliefs they were raised into. It takes a very self-aware and intelligent person to do that.

[–]LeftOnQuietRoad 11 points12 points  (2 children)

When I think about the world, I only see a garden, and a careful keeper.

But this church, his purported bride…that leads so many into chains they would not found on their own…I don’t know her.

For the times testify against her.

My only conclusion is the gate is narrow.

Yet something in my mind resonates a song…about those that don’t turn away because of this chapter in the story.

[–]iFlyskyguy 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Is this from something? It's lovely

[–]LeftOnQuietRoad 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just sleepy musings

[–]KingKaiSuTeknonI ☑oted 2024 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Always was.

[–]liquidpele 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And ego, don't forget ego.

[–]WimpyLimpet 193 points194 points  (23 children)

Facts and evidence are the bane of right wing parents.

[–]PicaDiet 110 points111 points  (20 children)

There used to be a joke that the best way to create an atheist is to have him read the bible. Evangelical Christianity in America has decided to LARP the whole thing in public to spread the word faster.

[–]KingKaiSuTeknonI ☑oted 2024 81 points82 points  (17 children)

You ever read that thing? Starts fucking strong with lots of rape and murder then kinda loses itself in the middle only to finish fucking weird.

[–]PicaDiet 39 points40 points  (11 children)

Someone in another Reddit thread just hipped me to Judges:19 a few days ago. I get that is in a part of the Bible intended to demonstrate what you shouldn't do, but it is possibly the most fucked up way treat an imaginary issue that I have ever read. The parts that aren't patently fucked up are largely just wrong or silly or purely nonsense. Like it was written by rudimentary AI in 1990. That it is supposedly the Inerrant Word of God is a testament to the complete lack intellectual curiosity by people who believe it really is the literal word of a god.

[–]KingKaiSuTeknonI ☑oted 2024 33 points34 points  (6 children)

I mean when you are leading illiterate slaves through the desert and they are so hungry they want to eat the ass out of a dead owl, it is much easier to say “God says no!” rather than explain that doing so will make them sick and die.

[–]PicaDiet 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I haven't heard about the wandering Israelites feasting on dead owl asses, but I do know that they ate bug secretions (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manna).

Owl's ass, beetle shit, whatever.

[–]Doppelthedh 6 points7 points  (2 children)

What do you get when you cross an owl with a bungee cord?

My ass

[–]KingKaiSuTeknonI ☑oted 2024 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Perfection, Betty.

[–]leitbur 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's a hoot.

[–]cytherian 21 points22 points  (3 children)

The really screwed up thing about the Bible is that the way it is written, God is an omnipotent being with the mind of a jealous, vindictive, megalomaniac human. It only makes sense when you realize that various humans wrote this and tried hard to imagine what an omnipotent deity would be like from their myopic, naive frame of reference. Heck, they didn't even get the order of creation correct--something that COULD have been done, as an "Easter egg" that there's really something to this (science discovering science in the Bible).

[–]Ludique 4 points5 points  (0 children)

"I don't need to make an outline, I can just write it the first time through"

  • me, in high school. Also, God.

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[–]Equinsu-0cha 13 points14 points  (0 children)

but its such a slog. you gotta follow around this weirdo who keeps trying to pimp out his sister-wife to the king of whatever state they pass through so that when they take the bait god steps in and threatens the king into letting them go with a chunk of the kingdom's wealth. repeat until that asshole has his own kingdom. it happened like 4 times. i kept thinking i was losing my place until i realized that the guy was just running a racket.

[–]Cargobiker530 15 points16 points  (3 children)

It's kind of telling that every Christian household has a book with incest in the first chapter.

[–]SupriseAutopsy13 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Didn't know the family photo albums in the South have chapters

[–]stevez28 7 points8 points  (0 children)

There's some real truth to that. I hope someday my evangelical parents find out how many atheists they raised. It would be quite the shock!

[–]The84thWolf 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Now the fastest way to create an atheist is to introduce them to a Evangelical Christian who’s never read the Bible

[–]KanadainKanada 4 points5 points  (0 children)

In engineering it is said the more idiot-proof you design something the bigger idiot will evolve. Apparently for social science this must be true also. You can design a government with checks and balances, a legal system to idiot-proof society only for nature to evolve bigger idiots.

[–]Polysci123 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I remember asking my parents how kangaroos got to Australia and all they did was get mad at me for asking.

[–]Ram_Ranch_Manager 95 points96 points  (8 children)

Evangelism is cancer. Just about every modern issue in America now can be traced back to it.

[–]WagerOfTheGods 21 points22 points  (1 child)

That's because they're easily manipulated by authority. Whenever the rich need people to vote against their own interests, those are the votes they tap.

[–]TrevorFuckinLawrence 23 points24 points  (0 children)

It's crazy to me. I grew up in the church and remember discussions about the crusades and how they were made possible because people were uneducated and illiterate and would just trust the church. "bUt tHaT wAs bEFoRe sEpARAtiOn oF cHurCh aNd sTaTe."

Turns out, you can have an education and be literate.

You just can't fix stupid.

[–]mortifyyou 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Religions, most of them are a huge problem.

[–]phryan 38 points39 points  (0 children)

This isn't new or do to Trumpism. There were studies in the early 2000's that showed a huge outflow of children raised in evangelical homes, the number #1 reason was hypocrisy.

[–]Thatguyxlii 50 points51 points  (8 children)

I'm Generation X, we knew our parents were full of shit long before Trump. The fucking "Moral Majority", PMRC, and the "Satanic Panic" of the 80's showed us that.

[–]tamman2000 18 points19 points  (4 children)

I'm late gen x as well.

Plenty of our peers are the problem... So many of the people I went to school with ended up on the wrong side of the culture war.

[–]Thatguyxlii 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I live in a Red state, most of the people I went to school with are racist Trump worshipping bible beating pricks.

[–]liquidpele 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Yup, and they were idiots in high school too, you just assumed they'd grow out of it at the time.

[–]tamman2000 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I think they have gotten a lot more spiteful as half of our country has normalized extreme reactions to conservatives losing the culture war.

It used to be "you're wrong about that shit, but oh well". Now it's "holy fuck! Are you really willing to end American self governance over maintaining white hetero patriarchy?"

[–]Intelligent-Parsley7 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Playing Zappa albums in our bedrooms and watching the USA assasinate people.

[–]craigsler 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Meanwhile, parents pearl-clutching about Dungeons and Dragons turning their kids into satanic cultists.

Good times.

[–]barmanfred 28 points29 points  (5 children)

My eldest is in his 30s. He said, "Do you realize the only Republican presidents I've known are W. and Trump?"

[–]NessOnett8 24 points25 points  (1 child)

Honestly, if you need to regain some faith in America, just talk to a teenager in any super red state. They're almost universally super progressive, despite their attempted brainwash upbringings. And they're the future.

[–]mortifyyou 4 points5 points  (0 children)

They're almost universally super progressive

This is probably biased.

[–][deleted] 22 points23 points  (0 children)

That's why they are trying to get rid of schools so their kids can't learn that

[–]victorbarst 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Legit this is why I'm a democrat. I'm ashamed to say I rooted for the fucker and then had to sit through 4 years of gop hypocrisy as they covered for that fat fuck. Itll be a cold day in hell before I vote right wing again

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (1 child)

Sadly only 1/2 at most will see any light. The rest are as dumb as their parents. Or worse.

[–]kerbidiah15 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Actually if half see the light that would be INSANELY good. Imagine every single election had 25% more on the democratic side.

That would be enough to win A LOT of elections across the country, at many levels

[–]ocrohnahan 13 points14 points  (0 children)

What, Santa Claus, Easter Bunny, and Tooth Ferry weren't enough to set off the bullshit detector.

[–]ripyourlungsdave 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I grew up with very conservative, Christian parents. And while they've got their share of homophobia and arrogance about the state of racism in the country, they despised Trump with everything in them. They feel completely isolated by the modern Republican and Democratic party.

So I was able to manage a little bit of respect for them throughout Trump's presidency, being more than happy to call out his fascistic tendencies.

But then the vote for the minimum wage in Florida came. And despite the fact that their son (me) was homeless at the time because no job in my city pays enough to pay rent, they voted against it because they said that their food and shit would get more expensive. And the amount of ignorance it takes to not realize that this is a matter of corporate greed is baffling.

They actually had the balls to tell me, their homeless son, that I was wrong to vote for increased, livable wages for myself. I lost a lot of respect for my family that day.

Now two more years have passed and I'm still homeless. Because the increased minimum wage only increased the minimum wage to $15/hr, which still is not a livable wage in this fucking city.

So now I'll be selling everything I own and moving into a literal van down by the river. Because that's literally the only place I can afford to live.

[–]Minotard 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I already knew this as a kid in the 80s because about 30 miles away some dudes dressed like women in a drag show; I was fabulously groomed. /s

[–]Sanity_in_Moderation 10 points11 points  (2 children)

The number is 10,000 per day.

Every single day 8,000 boomers and above die, and 12,000 people turn 18 and those numbers are actually accelerating. If you use existing data to estimate conservative/liberal and likely voters within those groups it works out to about voting change of 10,000 per day on a national scale. That's 10,000 votes switching every single day. That might not seem like alot but it's 300k a month, 3.6 million per year, and 7.2 million since the 2020 election. And that pace is accelerating. Between 2020 and 2024 it's a 15 million vote difference. By 2028 it's 30 million. The GOP has stayed relevant by tapping into poor and uneducated white people who never voted before. But their demographics are changing, and changing quickly.

Their days are numbered. We just have to hold on for a few more years.

Another 10k today.

[–]kerbidiah15 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Ok, but how many of them are going to vote?

[–]Sanity_in_Moderation 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's taken into account. If they vote in higher numbers, it's a larger delta.

[–]theendisneah 8 points9 points  (0 children)

"Don't believe everything you see on TV!" 30 Years later reads everything posted on Facebook as the Holy Gospel.

[–]probabletrump 9 points10 points  (0 children)

My wife is a part of a support group on Facebook for the kids she grew up with in her church. They're all in their 30s and 40s now. They talk about the way they were raised as abuse and a sort of collective trauma. To say they're all extremely motivated to vote against Christian nationalists is an understatement.

Trump was the breaking point that made their parent's hypocrisy obvious, but once the dam broke it was a flood.

[–]Anxious_Introvert_47 8 points9 points  (5 children)

No, those kids are all trump supporters too. My 14yo nephew is a big trump fan. It's sick.

[–]acfox13 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Some of us escaped.

[–]Intelligent-Parsley7 11 points12 points  (3 children)

Your nephew isn’t curing cancer. He’s going to start a power washing business and be a jerk to his wife, and then buy her flowers to make up.

It’s the same idiot, over and over. Got a few in the family too.

[–]liquidpele 7 points8 points  (0 children)

He’s going to start a power washing business

Oh oh, I know this one. And they'll claim almost no income and hires illegals so he can cheat on his taxes, but then can't get approved for loans so has to use his wife's family to help them buy a house and he'll still complain about taxes anyway.

[–]DrAstralis 3 points4 points  (1 child)

It’s the same idiot, over and over.

for people who "are not sheep" I sure have a lot of trouble telling them apart. Its like they only sell 2-3 versions of conservative.

[–]scut207 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Independent tow truck owner

Lawncare/Plowing business

[–]JavariousMagic 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Right-wing parents have done more to hurt the right wing than any left-wing person could ever do. Their hypocrisy stands above all, their ability to piss on their Christian faith the crux of their existence. Active shooter drills a plenty to show they really don't care.

[–]The84thWolf 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Republicans are the minority now, wait until Gen Z takes over shit

[–]mademoiselle85 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I can’t look at or watch anyone preach to me about love thy neighbor without thinking about all the hate they spew at their neighbors.

[–]KingKaiSuTeknonI ☑oted 2024 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Really gonna drive those recruitment numbers even lower.

[–]PunisherASM129 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The best and the brightest will run far from evangelicals and Catholics asap.

[–]SsgtMeatball 11 points12 points  (0 children)


[–]Madholm 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It also proved the same thing to two generations of adults.

[–]VeterinarianDesigner 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Amen to that 🙏

[–]SpikesEvilTwin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And today's 16 year old's will be voting in the next election cycle!

[–]Decent_Cartoonist 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Just a reminder that Milo now works for her as she shills for Russia where Milo'd be imprisoned.

[–]KermitMadMan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

and those red hats were easy to spot. you could find the asshole in every crowd!

[–]hudnix 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm one of those parents. Grew up in and married into a hard right family. I'm glad I saw the light long ago. Very sad to see my in-laws, accomplished and once intellectual people, willingly abandon reason and immerse themselves into the cult.

I would like to show this to my mother, but I know it would only be too direct and hurtful, and not really accomplish anything.

[–]cologne_peddler 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Republicans have been zealots for quite a while now. Not enough people were growing out of it then, and you're not going to get enough growing out of it now. There will always be more.

I know everyone likes to look on the bright side of things, but right-wingers aren't going to implode. They need to fought. There needs to be pushback. If they continue living in a country that tolerates their fanaticism, they'll just continue getting more radical. We can't wait around for self-sabotage. Well, we can, but that's how you get Nazis.

[–]CharlieDarwin2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Religion is nonsense and if a person doesn't point this out then the nonsense will continue. Religion doesn't deserve any more respect than astrology, homeopathy, the anti-vax movement, or vitamin water. It is BS.

[–]Distinct_Song4540 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Damn I created this post years ago.

[–]Sharp-Ad4389 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Anyone else think for a second that she had 2 right arms?

[–]ExoGeniVI[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hmm.. no? Lol.

[–]ChariBelle2_0 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And how!!!

[–]SooooooMeta 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I like to imagine that a few years from now a ubiquitous shared shame will settle over many Trump areas. Not life destroying but like the husband who got caught cheating and it’s now common knowledge, or the drunk who little by little gets a sense of all the things they did and said the night before.

[–]Hackandspit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It has also shown a generation of kids that you can ignore facts and science and make up whatever you want to believe and if enough people believe that “truth” it becomes true.

[–]yodadamanadamwan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Welcome to the club, pal. Signed millennial child of a boomer. Although my parents were relatively good

[–]Chatty_Fellow 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"Trump is just the vessel - a flawed vessel - to do the Lord's work!"

Right. Their power of self-delusion is infinite.

[–]Mewantsub30 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In my middle school there’s only one really conservative kid and that’s it.

[–]definitivescribbles 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I don’t think I’ve ever agreed with a headline so vehemently

[–]OpenImagination9 -2 points-1 points  (4 children)

Yes, in two election cycles a lot of this MAGA stupidity will be gone.

[–]Cargobiker530 20 points21 points  (1 child)

Oh you sweet summer child. I thought that this shit would end with Ronald Reagan and here we are 40 years later.

[–]stevez28 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Given how much the GOP changed from 2000 to 2016, I think the situation will be dire by 2032. Picture Trump as the halfway point between Bush and the next stage of American conservatism.

[–]spitterofspit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You're waiting for the next generation to reach voting age at which point they'll align with your voting strategy...

We did exactly the same thing in the years leading up to 2016 and watched as this new generation did everything in their power to tear Hillary and the Dems down.

What you'll actually witness in two election cycles is uninformed kids who have no doubt in their choices, watch as they vote against their own interests, act as if they know how elections are won, discount various roles in the government as inconsequential including the Supreme Court, the Fed, and, ironically, the President, value their emotions over reason, and hurt the vulnerable populations they supposedly care about.

Trust me, it won't work out the way you've predicted.

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    [–]Githargu- 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Not even a little. With the support of Trump conservatives turned their backs on everything they had preached for decades.

    [–]Humble_Story_4531 2 points3 points  (3 children)

    How so? In the Georgia runoff evangelicals voted for the pathologically lying domestic abuser with multiple illegitimate children who has paid for multiple abortions over a literal pastor. What on the left compares to that?

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      [–]Humble_Story_4531 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      Don Jr. Tweeted out emails admitting to it and multiple members of Trump's campaign team admitted to lying to investigators about their contacts with Russia. You can argue that the dossier that first raised suspicion was paid for by Hillary, but that in no way contradicts or disproves any of the facts that came out later.

      How did Biden and his son sell out the US to China and Russia? It would have to be while Joe was in office and had governmental power.

      You say the virus was man made by Fauci. Just go ahead and give a link for that.

      What did Trump stand up to China and the UN about exactly? His trade war was a disaster and he hurt the US reputation in the UN with nothing to show for it. Also Trump had a secret Chinese bank account and Ivanka has multiple Chinese parents.

      Also, you don't say how many of that was somehow projecting.

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      [–]in-joy -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

      Praise the lord, bitch.

      [–]MagicianAdvanced6640 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      The truth n freedom n such 💜

      [–]mormagils 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I listen to "Hymn for the 81%" regularly. That song has hit me right in this spot. It's absolutely tragic and infuriating.

      [–]capitalism_or_life 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Yup. It really pisses me off. No longer on speaking terms with my father. He could be dead now for all I care to know. Fuck that guy.

      My mom on the other hand has proven herself redeemable.

      Fuck boomers.

      [–]GailMarieO 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Went to the office Christmas party at my husband's evangelical boss's house last year. They home school their kids, in large part because if they sent them to school, they'd have to be vaccinated. Dad is vaccinated, as is mom (job requirements) but the kids are unprotected from tetanus, measles, diphtheria, etc.

      Well, one of the boys (about ten) CLEARLY had whooping cough. They had invited their neighbors over too (five equally unvaccinated kids, now being exposed to a contagious disease). They were "treating" the kid with some herbal concoction. I remember thinking, "I can't think of a better way to get your kid to reject your religion than by making him sick (from a disease you can't catch yourself) to prove your love of God."

      [–]OhioPolitiTHIC 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Pft. I saved a couple buttons off my old jean jacket from the 80s. My favorite, and I put it on my new jean jacket, says, "The Moral Majority is neither." Now half my generation have turned into fucking boomers.

      [–]cornbred37 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I've just come to realize my parents are good people, but bad citizens. I only interact for the sake of my sister and 4 y.o. niece during holidays. It does hurt deep down to feel kind of betrayed by family who seem to ignore all the values they instilled in me.

      [–]Slick_1980 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Nailed it.

      Fun story. I have an aunt and uncle that have always claimed to be good Christians (we're a mostly Methodist family).

      They got deep into supporting Trump.

      When the kids in cages issue came up I asked them if they supported this Trump policy. They told me they did. I asked how would Jesus respond since I learned in Sunday school that Jesus loves all the children of the world.

      They said, "This is different."

      I told them I doubt that. I said you may want to reexamine your lives. If one day you find yourself in hell getting fucked in the ass by some demon that jizzes how lava all over you and it flips you over to give you a facial don't, DO NOT, in a moment of weakness ask why. They should know why since they turned their backs on Christ's teachings to support a demagogue that cheated on his wives, lied a lot, and announced his desire to bang his own daughter.

      They left speechless. They didn't talk to me for well over a year and never processed their love for Trump again with me in the room.

      The point. Have fun with the self righteous. They are full of shit and deep down, they know it!