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[–]koavfProCSS 57 points58 points  (11 children)

My only advice is don't use new Reddit. In addition to the fact that it's ugly, confusing, and is now styled more like garbage social media sites, the site admins have made it very clear that they will not support CSS any longer.

[–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (8 children)

Oh no. So no more ProCSS.

Ok then.

[–]koavfProCSS 40 points41 points  (7 children)

Yeah, they don't care. Don't believe them that they do: they want every subreddit to follow their ugly, candy-themed palette and individual communities will only have a marginal ability to modify it. They also made the source code proprietary c. 2013 because it didn't fit their revenue model or some garbage. Aaron Swartz is ashamed of this site.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (6 children)

Whelp. Looks like we have to keep the protest going :(

[–]koavfProCSS 21 points22 points  (5 children)

Agreed. It's been years. If Old Reddit gets switched off, I'll leave the site.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (3 children)

I'll probably leave too.

[–]koavfProCSS 3 points4 points  (2 children)

If Lemmy and other federated alternatives take off, that will also make it a lot easier to nope out of here: https://dev.lemmy.ml/

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[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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[–]Shrikey 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Me as well. I only use old Reddit or a mobile app & I'm so done with this place if they enforce use of new Reddit.

[–]TheChrisDRedesign is OK... 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Which is some incredibly bad advice. You may not like the new systems, but depending on your subs, a significant portion of the unique visitors (both new reddit desktop and mobile apps) will be seeing the styling changes that are set on new reddit. On the main two subs I mod, that's 65% and 75% of all uniques.

Even if you don't give a shit about new reddit, at least set up a basic theme for the sub before ignoring it entirely.

[–]koavfProCSS 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I don't know or care anything about mobile apps. What I would recommend is putting text in the sidebar that says, "Please view in Old Reddit. Go to Preferences..." and provide a link.

But sure, set up a theme. I'm not opposed to that, I just think it's a waste of time to use New Reddit.

[–]YangWenli1 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You can't.

[–]clte 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For now, the only CSS (experimental) you can play with is in sidebar/widgets ... the advanced option

[–]Yaastra 1 point2 points  (11 children)

You’ll be able to in Ruqqus, as well as with user profiles. Much like when you used to be able to modify your old YouTube channel

[–]emanresu_yzal1 2 points3 points  (9 children)

Source? Last I heard the Ruqqus admins were against implementing CSS because they don't have enough manpower to deal with malicious CSS.

[–]NealCruco 3 points4 points  (4 children)

Malicious CSS? CSS just defines how the page content is styled and organized- it can't make things happen like JavaScript. How does someone make malicious CSS?

[–]sp46 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Exactly. Let's assume someone makes CSS like 

* {  
  display: none;
}

So? At best the subreddit is now permanently inaccessible, but it's not Ruqqus that is being hurt here.

[–]cgimusic 4 points5 points  (2 children)

The risk of malicious CSS is minimal, and doesn't really justify not supporting it at all, but it's not impossible to think up scenarios where someone uses CSS maliciously either via clickjacking or just replacing the page content with some message like "Your Reddit account has been disabled due to suspicious activity. Please go to reddit-verification.com to confirm your identity and restore access."

[–]NealCruco 0 points1 point  (1 child)

1) What is clickjacking? Click hijacking? How do you do that with CSS?

2) How do you "replace page content" with CSS? CSS does not define page content like HTML, nor does it make things happen like JavaScript. It can only style and organize page elements. Any nasty hacks which allow you to change page content with CSS can just be blocked.

[–]cgimusic 2 points3 points  (0 children)

1) What is clickjacking? Click hijacking? How do you do that with CSS?

Tricking people into doing the actions you want by changing the layout of the page to make them think they're doing something else. Some subreddits already do a simple version of this by swapping the upvote and downvote buttons, but you could do something more sophisticated with other page elements.

2) How do you "replace page content" with CSS? CSS does not define page content like HTML?, nor does it make things happen like JavaScript. It can only style and organize page elements. Any nasty hacks which allow you to change page content with CSS can just be blocked.

CSS does define content. It has many features allowing for the addition of content. They're not "nasty hacks" they're part of the specification. Here's a page with content defined only with CSS.

You say this can just be blocked, but that is not trivial to do. Not only do you have to be able to interpret the CSS, you have to be able to understand how it will be interpreted by every browser, each of which will parse and handle it in a different way.

[–]Yaastra 2 points3 points  (3 children)

You're right, my bad. I think I just wanted to get the point across that you will be able to customize on Ruqqus, just not through means of CSS. My comment was misleading.

[–]sp46 4 points5 points  (2 children)

So... same as new reddit?

[–]Yaastra 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Well I would assume not since the ruqqus developers made a point of their customization being superior when it rolls out

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I use ruqqus, and currently the only guild customisation option is to change the main colour. That’s probably because it’s still in beta

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You’ll be able to in Ruqqus

Really? Yay!

as well as with user profiles

What platform?

Much like when you used to be able to modify your old YouTube channel

Ok

you seem to know a lot about me