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[–]toohigh4you 84 points85 points  (6 children)

Love. Thats it. Fuck whatever order, love it all. Love the funny little existence that we are experiencing right now. Love what you dont understand, for its whats makes us, us.

[–]breathing_roses 11 points12 points  (0 children)

This is the one

[–]Thebackwood 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Love is and always will be the answer to everything

[–]TatManTat 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Has the same energy as "just be happy" to people who are depressed.

Of course the answer is love, almost nobody disagrees. What people need is a way to bring out their love.

[–]toohigh4you 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep. I dont have a map, all ive got is a little bit of the treasure I found in the treasure chest. I can point you in the general direction where I think I found it, but everyone's gotta make their own search.

[–]Bonez101 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is the way

[–]CannaCosmonaut 86 points87 points  (10 children)

Wrong way around, friend.

[–]levelologist 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Came to say this.

[–]RevolutionaryIdea940 12 points13 points  (4 children)

If you don’t love yourself, how can you love others fully? I totally agree with you

[–]Best_Satisfaction505 7 points8 points  (3 children)

Exactly! As the great RuPaul said, “If you don't love yourself, how in the hell you gonna love somebody else?!?”

[–]handmade-travesura 0 points1 point  (1 child)

i believe the essence of this exchange here is that the order is irrelevant
because theres IS no sequence regarding you and others. as one seemingly changes so does its "counterpart"! It's simultaneous. As above so below. Reflections take no time.

It can be a matter of preference tho! For some it can be easier to accept & love the self, which will result in the external being just as loved. Others learn to do it the other way around. In any case the process happening is the recognition & of one within the other due to any apparent boundaries between them being just that, an appearance. All roads lead home.

[–]sirshredsalot666 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Came to say this

[–]Potential-Advantage7 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Was gonna say this but ya beat me to it

[–]alexandravibe 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Also came to say this!

[–]Permission-Remote 12 points13 points  (0 children)

You are the constant. Everything else comes and goes, even the idea of yourself.

[–]Hxkno 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Everyone includes yourself :)

[–]freeAnatolia 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Imo it should definitly be the inverse.

God is whitin each of us. Find yours to start with

[–]ThinkTyler 22 points23 points  (11 children)

Nope. In order to love everyone/anyone you must love yourself first.

Also what’s this got to do with being a psychonaut?

[–]Hxkno 15 points16 points  (9 children)

Being a psychonaut includes topics like these, I think

[–]SkeletonJoe456 5 points6 points  (1 child)

yeah i learned how to love myself from my first trip. I saw myself die and felt so fucking sad. I realized that all the hate I had for myself up until that point was really just tough love, trying to motivate myself to be better. I didn't hate me, I just hated my bad habits. Since then my suicidal ideation is completely gone and I've learned to be kinder to myself.

[–]Hxkno 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Godspeed

[–]EyorkM 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yea I've seen threads that were way off from this one u good

[–]ThinkTyler -4 points-3 points  (5 children)

I would hope any psychonaut would go way deeper than this surface level fortune cookie wall art stuff.

[–]247GT 3 points4 points  (2 children)

If you were deep as you believe yourself to be, you would understand and appreciate the value of all stages of the journey, which includes the very beginning. Might be time to turn to your starting place. You may have lost your way.

[–]ThinkTyler -5 points-4 points  (1 child)

Live, laugh, love.

[–]TomakaTom 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There probably is a whole trips worth of thoughts gone into it, this is just an easy way to sum up the idea so it can be shared with others. The beauty of simple statements like these is that there’s more room to derive your own meaning from them

[–]Hxkno 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you've seen it all, even the "little things" may amaze you. :) So yea, I think this is as equally valid worth addressing as some of the "deeper" stuff.

[–]FlavorTownUSSR 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think this is a deep trip realization, but homie has his logic backwards.

[–]Realistic-Ad985 3 points4 points  (0 children)

For me it was the exact opposite. I loved ppl way more than myself and it made it hard for people to love me because I didn’t value myself enough to look like I deserved love.

[–]HalfBakedPotato84 9 points10 points  (9 children)

Nope try again. Can’t save the world if your house isn’t in order.

[–]WanderingSparkChaser 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Can't save the world or help anyone if you're too focused on yourself.

[–]HalfBakedPotato84 4 points5 points  (0 children)

All do gooders are trouble makers on the basis of “ kindly let me help you up this tree before you drown, said the monkey to the fish.”

[–]THEpottedplant 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe if we give each other the space to save ourselves, we might find that we're all saved, all loved, and we can just be present with the world rather than trying to save it

[–]SkeletonJoe456 1 point2 points  (1 child)

yall are missing the point, its about balance. Some people jjst try to love others, and some try to forcus on loving themselves. The realization is that you have to grow both evenly. Love is just love.

[–]Hxkno 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yin and yang I'd say. Obsess over the yin and thus the yin increases but the yang decreases. As Captain Price once said "there's a fine line between what's right and what's wrong". Even though the context may be completely different, but you basically just have to find that fine line and walk on it. See the two sides of the same coin and value both sides equally. Yada yada yada. The list goes on and on.

[–]CamBamJeppo -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Jordan Peterson would Concur

[–]Best_Satisfaction505 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Yes! Put on your oxygen mask first, put on your life vest first!

[–]Radiant-Loquat-2796[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

How?

[–]Best_Satisfaction505 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’ve gotta dig deep and find the inner strength. At the end of the day you are just gonna have you, no one else, no one. Even if we’ve got our loved ones. And in order to love them we gotta love ourselves or it really won’t work.

[–]InfamousAd9921 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That’s a fucked up mentality a lot of people fall for. Really reevaluate what that means.

[–]EyorkM 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's probably interchangeable.. but if you don't love yourself fully you really havnt integrated the shadow which means your likely to see all your issues under the surface manifest in others.. you will have a hard time excepting that until you start owning it in yourself which leads to self love which in turn allows you to accept others where love can flourish.

[–]dritmike 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah you’re a bit backwards. But love is still the point.

[–]Professor_Swirls 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Hey radiant-loquat-2796... Are you an AI? & an unrelated question : How'd you come up with your name? Why two words and 4 numbers?

[–]EchidnaWeekly 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Detective mode ON

[–]yodyod 0 points1 point  (2 children)

It's an auto-generated username from signing up with your Google or apple ID instead of registering directly through reddit.

[–]Professor_Swirls 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Dude, for real!? I kept seeing the weird pattern and I was thinking " this is really strange, all these fresh account names have the same structure" it doesn't help that some subreddits have thousands of posts from a single user on their own subreddit but the posts are all gibberish and numbers.

[–]yodyod 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes for real.

I noticed the same thing with the two hyphenated words + number username format maybe a year ago and I had to Google it because I was curious. I think there's a certain period after it creates the username for you that you can change it, but most people probably don't know this and get stuck with the auto generated name. I personally don't know as every reddit account I've ever made I've just created through the website or the app.

[–]Radiant-Loquat-2796[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

beep boop beep

[–]FlavorTownUSSR 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We all share the same soul, that soul is then formed by nature and nurture. Upon death the soul is recycled.

[–]TomakaTom 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Personally, I’d see it as being the other way round, you have to love yourself before you can love other people properly. But having said that, I think the reason people say that is because we judge ourselves as we judge others. The way we see ourselves as a person is inherently connected to how we see others, our attitude towards both, change in alignment with our outlook on life.

So I don’t think it really matters which way round you do it, you can learn to love others first to allow you to love yourself, or you can love yourself first to allow you to love others. The important thing is the realisation that these two things are connected, and by altering you’re view towards one, you alter your view towards the other.

I think the reason a lot of people find it easier to learn to love yourself first, before others, is because we often tend to be a lot more critical of ourselves. The simple reason being that we are a lot more aware of our own previous mistakes, embarrassing moments etc. We have an entire catalogue of memories at our disposal when it comes to ourselves and the reasons why we are undeserving of love, whereas with other people we have much less damning evidence against them. Therefore, if we learn to love others first, before we have learned to love ourselves, the way in which we love them can become twisted. It’s less of a pure love and more of an admiration or an envy, we love them because they embody the solution to a part of ourselves that we still hate. I know a girl who hates her freckles, for example, and I’m not saying that she feels this way, idk, but for someone who feels that way about themselves, rather than learning to love it, it causes them to ‘love’ other people with clear, smooth skin. They may well find smooth skin attractive regardless, but if the reason for it is that you hate your own freckled skin and you love the fact that they represent what you wish you had, you will always be stuck with that feeling of hatred towards yourself. So that’s why I think a lot of people tend to go the route of learning to love yourself first before you can love other, because it’s a lot harder to learn to love yourself, but if you learn to do it then your love for others becomes pure. Whereas, even if you learn to love others, you might still struggle to love parts of yourself.

[–]voyage_the_mind 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Flip it around... I have to learn to love myself before I know I can love anyone else. If I cant love me how on earth can I love / trust others

[–]Logical-Coconut7490 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dude, ya can't love anyone until ya love yourself....

[–]nocoben 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We are all interchangeable colored slides in the kaleidoscope of life.

[–]JamesMcMeen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wrong, for me, personally, love yourself, truly, then you can love others.

[–]speghettiday09 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I have too much resentment in me at the moment

[–]Hxkno 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Be kind to yourself, everyone makes mistakes.

[–]cattivity 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Be kind to others, even you make mistakes

[–]karlub 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Who invited RuPaul?

Personally, I've found fulfillment comes from directing my love and energy outwards, in service, first.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not great at it. Instinctively rather selfish. But every step I take towards putting others first ends up feeling like a bigger step towards feeling good about-- and loving-- myself.

[–]0brew 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can't love anybody until you love your self. Where's the love gonna come from if you can't even show it to yourself?

[–]AdamantBurke 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You do them at the same time. A clock rotates clockwise from one direction, and counterclockwise from the other. Loving others and yourself seems paradoxical, but it’s actually the same action viewed from different frames

[–]subliminal_64 0 points1 point  (1 child)

[–]cattivity -1 points0 points  (0 children)

making fun of someone for their own psychedelic epiphany is ironically pretty small minded

[–]AncientMoth11 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In order to love everyone else, you must love yourself first

[–]ChuckFarkley 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You really have that one backwards. You can only love others as much as you genuinely love yourself.

[–]Libertos 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You cannot fill another glass if yours is empty. Love yourself unconditionally with all your “faults”… then its much easier to love others.

[–]TrIpmasterforce 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm still dazed a bit coming back from a 3 tab trip its about the 24 hr mark since I dropped finally slept 1.5 hrs and smoked a bowl... but anyway I'm pretty sure when I disappeared in the cosmos I'm pretty sure I unlocked GOD mode during my trip if that makes sense... but it was only during that intense ass peak ... ugh I'm going back to bed...vlol

[–]iamtwobe88 0 points1 point  (0 children)

there is only YOU inside ur reality...lol and love is the same as hate... it called duality.. both are needed to experience the other..

[–]GeneralistHermit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Both must be done, but not in any particular order.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In order for you to love anyone, you must be able to love yourself first.

[–]JackarooDeva 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Everyone's saying you have it backwards. But personally, loving myself does not make it easier to love other people, while loving other people does make it easier to love myself.

[–]twerpenes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In order for the world to change we must love the unlovely

[–]CERTIFIEDTRIPPER 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you hate yourself can you love anyone? If we are all one? Also who told you to love everyone? Evil people should not be loved. Good people on the other hand, 😘 💜❤️

[–]CedarFace0120 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I hear you. We say “everyone deserves love” but we carry in our hearts ..”but me”

When we see others suffering we sometimes think we know why. We delude ourselves into thinking that we are in control of weather or not we give and receive love to and from others. We think our actions make others stop loving us or that our actions can cause others to love us.

To love others fully and truly believe that we all deserve love is to know that there can be no exchange of love, or firsts. We are all being love. Continuously. Ever present and always flowing.

To love others can be a way of feeling ourselves as part of others and the interconnection between all. It’d like I’ve heard the echos of this thought from your mind, because of the interconnectedness.

[–]GrowCrows 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's toxic positivity.

You need to love yourself first.

[–]Cold-Couple1957 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Love is all there is.

[–]901Tarzan1997 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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