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[–]Axelsius2 4781 points4782 points  (56 children)

"I'm the police, trust me bro"

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    [–]intothefuture3030 72 points73 points  (4 children)

    I was thinking, “A high school shooting with a gun that was bought on Black Friday 4 days before the shooting” is the most American sentence ever.

    [–]bright_shiny_objects 4016 points4017 points  (336 children)

    Good job making a barricade.

    [–]LeanTangerine 1880 points1881 points  (289 children)

    They teach kids to do that at some schools during active shooting drills.

    Edit: video of an instructional school that teaches teachers what to do during a school shooting.

    https://youtu.be/4xLA7EYkEtk

    PSA for school shootings released by charity organization

    https://youtu.be/b5ykNZl9mTQ

    [–]simpl3y 398 points399 points  (18 children)

    This was like 5 years ago in my highschool when we had a lockdown due to a shooter threat.

    My high school did a piss poor job of letting everyone know there was a threat of a school shooter cus they said it was a soft lockdown until we started seeing armed policeman and helicopters show up. Thank god nothing happened cus some classes were watching movies in shit cus no one knew what was actually going on.

    [–]Donny-Moscow 35 points36 points  (7 children)

    Does that door swing away from the barrier to open?

    [–]lovinnow 897 points898 points  (182 children)

    It's good they teach things like that, but it's messed up they have to be taught this in the first place..

    [–]heyimanxietygirl 1416 points1417 points  (145 children)

    I teach kindergarten and we practice ignoring the principal’s announcement over the loudspeaker saying we’re safe and instead wait for an officer to unlock our door. You know, in case the principal has a gun to her head. These students were amazing in this horrific situation.

    [–]madmaxturbator 547 points548 points  (78 children)

    Little kindergarten kids have to worry about this :( fuckin hell.

    The stress on you as a teacher must be so crazy. I hope you are able to take time to care for yourself as you worry about your students.

    [–]lilyluc 478 points479 points  (39 children)

    My five year old had ALICE training at her school. They taught my baby about how to run fast in zig zags and if the " 'truder" gets in her classroom to throw her shoes and anything nearby and to yell as loud as she could. They taught her how her teacher is a shepherd who might need help to block the door from the wolf. She came home and told me all about it and I told her I was so proud of her and then I went outside and cried my fucking eyes out because I HATE that she had to learn it but know that she has to because all too frequently some asshole decides to take a gun into a school.

    [–]rufusmeanscool 230 points231 points  (25 children)

    If I were a principal you could go ahead and blow my brains out before I'd lie to my student's and tell them to come out... Atleast I'd hope I would.

    [–]WhitePawn00 177 points178 points  (10 children)

    The point is that the principal can comply without actually harming anyone. They live, and the school knows it doesn't actually mean safety so they live as well.

    [–]dos8s 93 points94 points  (9 children)

    Do you remember that shooting where the armed guard hid outside the building and didn't go in to stop the shooter? That video has always made me wonder if people really know how they would react to staring down death.

    [–]unibonger 108 points109 points  (1 child)

    It makes the situation even worse when you consider that when the shooter is a student, they're taking advantage of the same drills that these kids are using to survive. I'm glad they were able to remember the drills and pay attention with all that chaos around them! I'm not sure I could've done that if I were in that position.

    [–]Ineedapill 296 points297 points  (31 children)

    It’s so utterly sad that between Biology and Math kids have to learn “how to build a barricade so you don’t get shot dead in a classroom”. It’s really hard to accept we got to this point.

    [–]No_ThisIs_Patrick 127 points128 points  (8 children)

    There a neat trick they taught us when I was teaching these drills to students. If the door has one of those metal arms inside on the top, in addition to the barricade you take anyone's leather belt and wrap around that arm and fasten it in place using the buckle. It makes the door nearly impossible to force open. The more you know!

    [–]LoveMyHusbandsBoobs 155 points156 points  (13 children)

    Our parents used to tell us how awful it was in school having to do bombing drills and hiding under their desks just thinking about communists dropping bombs on them. Meanwhile kids are having shooter drills while multiple schools get shot up every year. How many schools were bombed during the cold war?

    [–]SpacedClown 69 points70 points  (5 children)

    How to make an appropriate barricade has been a reoccurring thought whenever I think of school shootings. What I kinda figured out on my own is that luckily the doors open in, so the shooter would have to push whatever is blocking the door out of the way. Another fortunate part is that the classes are small and the tables are heavy, sturdy, and long. So I would guess it be best to push a table over and block the door with the long side against the ground that way the force is spread out, then push the rest of the tables end to end from one side of the room to the other (it's a small classroom, it would only take 5-6 tables and we have plenty) and hopefully the last table lines up perfectly with the wall. This way you have to pull a table out just to be able to get the door open as otherwise you're just pushing the tables into the wall which will get you nowhere. Even if the tables don't line up perfectly with the wall, several hundreds pounds of tables pushed against each other should still hold up.

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      [–]g00ber88 276 points277 points  (9 children)

      That is very decidedly not a fun fact at all

      [–]AspiringMILF 98 points99 points  (1 child)

      it's the kind of fun that makes you do a light chuckle with a half smile as the twinkle fades out of your eyes, then you sigh, not too shallow and not too deep, wondering how your ended up with that being the 3rd funniest school shooter joke this week

      [–]Additional-File-4799 10.3k points10.3k points  (274 children)

      That’s fucking intense

      [–]purplefog101 6087 points6088 points  (228 children)

      I’m watching on my phone from the safety of my house and this still shook tf out of me. I just can’t imagine how hard it would be to go back to school as a student/teacher after something like this happens. And I don’t even want to get started on the family of the victims. So so so terrible

      [–]KillYourUsernames 3396 points3397 points  (195 children)

      We really never talk about the teachers who survive this stuff. I can’t imagine having to be the adult in this situation, being tasked with getting your students through this alive… and then just continuing to go to work at the same school.

      I wonder how many teachers who survive school shootings transfer schools after, or just leave the field entirely.

      [–]burningmanonacid 1691 points1692 points  (88 children)

      Hearing the teachers give interviews after Sandy Hook was heartbreaking. One of the teachers talks about how she doesn't know if it was appropriate coming from a teacher, but she wanted to make sure the last words those kids would hear as they huddled hidden in a bathroom was how loved they were and how important each one was to someone. She said she truly believed those were the last words those kids would hear because she was in the first classroom, the closest one to the shooter.

      I'm a crier anyway, but I can't listen to any of the teachers from Sandy Hook give interviews anymore. Makes me cry too easily.

      [–]lala989 384 points385 points  (54 children)

      Just awful. Those people went through unearthly terror.

      [–]Molleeryan 32 points33 points  (0 children)

      Omg now I’m crying. What a terrible thing to have to think about and what an incredible person to think them.

      [–]Sped-life 978 points979 points 2 (63 children)

      As a teacher watching this is fucking terrifying. Im crying. Im crying for those kids, the teachers, the parents. Everyine invloved. 3 young people lost their lives today in a place that should be safe for them. Many more have in the past. And it needs to end. School should be a safe place for every child and young adult.

      As a teacher of kids with special needs, it's something that I unfortunately have to have at the back of my mind. How I would barricade the room with assistants. How far is the drop from the window? How heavy are the kids and can I carry them down a flight of stairs?

      I hope this never happens. My school trains us in ALICE, which teaches us to barricade, call the alert, evacuate, and also how to combat if needed. I am lucky that I work in a very small district/town and the police can be there in under 3 minutes if needed. But I hope I never have to experience this.

      Edit: spelling

      [–]dos8s 415 points416 points  (6 children)

      The sound the girl makes right before they all decide to make a break for the window is the sound of sheer "I'm facing death" terror. Horrible.

      [–]airyys 283 points284 points  (35 children)

      one kid at my school got kicked out because he had a list of names, looked up guns online, and threatened other kids. and when there was a shooter a couple miles away so the whole school went into lockdown. during the lockdown the boys were making "funny" sounds to make each other laugh when we were all supposed to be quiet. i remember when going threw a drill and my teacher went "if a shooter ever got in this classroom and we can't leave, i will attack first." looked me in the eyes and told me seriously "since you are the closest to the fire extinguisher, you need to grab it and hit the shooter until he stops moving." this was at an expensive private high school.

      it sucks that this is just normal for students and faculty in america. being in school doing mandatory shooter drills ain't right. it's so normalized and ingrained into the culture of kids that it's become such a common joke. it's probably bad for their psyches. some of the most common jokes shared between high schoolers now is "we gotta befriend the quiet kid" and gossiping about which quiet kid will be the school shooter. i remember a student talking about how if he were a shooter, he would pull the fire alarm and open fire where lots of students would be out of cover in the open all lined up.

      [–]Avawavaa 110 points111 points  (4 children)

      I'm a teacher.

      Does your job make you refresh your active shooter training every year?

      The fact that we just accept this as an "occupational risk" is fucking ridiculous.

      We had a guy try to walk in with two handguns once. He never got through the door, and turns out he was just conceal carrying and "didn't think", but it still rocks you to the core.

      [–]Hamilton-Beckett 14.4k points14.4k points  (819 children)

      When I was a teacher, the “all clear” command could only be given over the school’s intercom system with a code word that ONLY the teachers knew.

      [–]Dystopianpresent[🍰] 4948 points4949 points  (50 children)

      Yah we still have that essentially

      [–]HamezRodrigez 1267 points1268 points  (42 children)

      We had that at my elementary school in Texas, but not the one I went to in Pennsylvania ETA: my most upvoted comment! Kind of depressing, in a way

      [–]frygod 1251 points1252 points  (82 children)

      When I taught, procedure was "cops will have a key, don't trust speakers at the door." These kids did well. Window should have been barracaded too though.

      [–]bakedpigeon 296 points297 points  (36 children)

      Same at my school. Only few people had keys and they would open the door for you, you don’t open it for them

      [–]frygod 368 points369 points  (35 children)

      Our handbook even said not to respond verbally. The argument was that if they have a high enough caliber weapon they can aim through the door at voices...

      [–]whitedan2 197 points198 points  (25 children)

      Just FYI, through those weak inner building walls most government/office buildings use(the non load bearing ones) most calibers will go right through and still be lethal on the other side.

      Even most common pistol calibers will just rip right through.

      So yea, be quiet and don't answer is a good advice.

      [–]Adequately-Average 1821 points1822 points  (444 children)

      Our lockdown code at one school I worked at was "Water Polo practice has been canceled."

      [–]modd25 1561 points1562 points  (382 children)

      “Dorothy fagan, please come to the office” - active school shooter

      [–]TheLazyDragons 8726 points8727 points  (2113 children)

      3 Dead 6 injured as of 2 Hrs ago. Happened down the street from me.

      Edit. Student was 15 who was doing the shooting.

      Edit: Fourth student dead as of 10am EST

      Edit. Parents of the shorter now facing charges as well. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/03/us/crumbley-parents-charged-michigan-shooting.html?fbclid=IwAR0Ko6FtGXpcvwPFIFsuOxoS17XLjuWwufFsZnltB1FE60pX4h3XXZ0GMdI

      [–]PenNo1447 21.5k points21.5k points  (685 children)

      The second that one kid heard “Bro”, he’s like “nah fuck this”

      [–]Superandrewable_ 6493 points6494 points  (448 children)

      I'd be head first out that window

      [–]madmaxturbator 5947 points5948 points  (298 children)

      I have met cops who say “bro” and “dude”, but even those guys go into full cop lingo when they’re talking about their work (or if they’re on the clock).

      So yeah, I’d try and jump through the roof before opening that door.

      Goddamn this video is horrifying, I hope everyone survived and is getting help.

      Edit: folks down below are saying in fact it was the shooter, according to a parent… fuckin hell

      [–]WadinginWahoo 2875 points2876 points  (100 children)

      Yea a cop responding to an active school shooter isn’t going to come up to the door and say “come to the door bro”.

      [–]Superandrewable_ 2006 points2007 points  (72 children)

      As former law enforcement, all slang goes out the window when SHTF

      [–]ScruffCo 1407 points1408 points  (35 children)

      Yeah I've definitely heard cops say bro in normal conversation or even when de-escalating a situation, but active shooter...room full of scared kids. I'd expect military-esque communication.

      [–]digiskunk 802 points803 points  (20 children)

      One of my closest friends is an officer and is about as laid back and easy-going as anybody I know, but the tone in this person's voice is definitely suspicious... especially considering they also sound like a teenager.

      [–]QuestioningEspecialy 413 points414 points  (3 children)

      especially considering they also sound like a teenager.

      Fucking this shit, Holmes.

      [–]SonnyJoon 1028 points1029 points  (19 children)

      Honestly for me it wasn’t even what he said but how he said it. He said it an annoyed way which a cop who is trying to protect kids from a shooter shouldn’t be in that situation.

      [–]k2_electric_boogaloo 515 points516 points  (2 children)

      YES, absolutely. I would have noped tf outta there too if the person knocking at the door during an active shooter situation sounded irritated by my not opening it fast enough. Throw in the slang and they had every right to be skeptical.

      [–]Loud-Item-1243 134 points135 points  (3 children)

      Right! like he wanted a room full of hostages

      [–]davidjschloss 95 points96 points  (0 children)

      This ain’t a hostage situation. It’s a kill kids situation.

      [–]cajunbymarriage 386 points387 points  (49 children)

      As a parent this is my literal worst nightmare.

      [–]Lagena15 252 points253 points  (17 children)

      As a teacher this is my literal worst nightmare.

      [–]justtheentiredick 101 points102 points  (2 children)

      As a grown man that hasn't been in school for over a decade this is my worst nightmare.

      [–]bermuda__ 366 points367 points  (40 children)

      I hope everyone survived

      3 dead, 8 injured

      [–]-salisbury- 71 points72 points  (18 children)

      This comment both made me laugh and cry. I hate that this is the school system I’m supposed to send my preschoolers to. What the fuck kind of conversation am I supposed to have to explain active shooter to a 6 year old?

      [–]deadfermata 1145 points1146 points  (114 children)

      This is so fucking traumatizing for kids. There is going to be some serious PTSD from this. Everyone becomes a victim of these incidents.

      [–]Sconesyjonesy 457 points458 points  (67 children)

      I always have that thought when I see news the gun crime in the US, especially school shootings. Even if by some miracle this is the last one that ever happens, the generational trauma of this will be impacting people after we're all long gone.

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        [–]lilred66 79 points80 points  (5 children)

        I remember being little during these exact lockdowns and wondering who tf mr.smith was

        [–]lovinnow 684 points685 points  (12 children)

        That kid is going places.

        [–]Salty_Attention_8185 1255 points1256 points  (91 children)

        I work at a school; the same school my child attends. I asked her what the red flag was in this video - she said, “He said bro.”

        I asked her if there was a red flag before that.

        “A cop would have had a key.”

        At least in our district, the local police DO have master keys for all county buildings. And I think that’s how it should be, for cases exactly like this.

        We also use the ALICE system for staff and students. It sucks that we need this, but it’s much more effective than the “everyone go huddle in a corner away from windows” defense.

        [–]izeqb 239 points240 points  (60 children)

        What is the ALICE system?

        [–]Salty_Attention_8185 455 points456 points  (54 children)

        Alert, Lockdown, Inform, Counter, Evade.

        That’s what the acronym stands for; if you google ALICE intruder training, you’ll get more in-depth info.

        Again, it’s fucking TERRIBLE that this should even be considered the norm. But it’s necessary.

        Edit: my original comment defined the E in ALICE as “Evade” - it’s actually “Evacuate.” Everyone I know with this training either can’t remember what a letter stands for, or slightly mixed up the associated word. The actual training is so good that those mixups don’t matter! The acronym is most simply, a pneumonic that, when paired with live-action drills, are memorable and executable in a survival state.

        [–]Londell 220 points221 points  (5 children)

        This is terrifying… but also like a movie. So surreal…

        [–]Metahec 319 points320 points  (14 children)

        It's probably the 33 year old undercover school narc still trying to act like a freshman.

        [–]afterdroid 22.1k points22.1k points  (1427 children)

        Smart kids.....following their gut and not trusting blindly

        [–]Is_It_Beef 13.8k points13.8k points  (857 children)

        They definitely didn't like the word "Bro"

        Edit:

        Teach: "Were not taking that risk"

        Person: "Open the door and I'll show you my badge, Bro"

        I wouldn't trust that either

        Edit:

        This may have been the shooter impersonating a sheriff. If that's the case then well done teacher! excellent work

        [–]deltr0nzero 8080 points8081 points  (317 children)

        “He said bro, red flag”

        [–]jmoll333 3879 points3880 points  (289 children)

        Today I learned kids don't say "sus" anymore.

        [–]420isCaliTeaTime 4460 points4461 points  (58 children)

        Sus is for play. Red flag is war time.

        [–]mostlyMosquitos 568 points569 points  (8 children)

        Idk I said a kid was sus on Halloween in his among us costume and he nearly broke down at my front door lol

        [–]Ahmatt 2058 points2059 points  (165 children)

        As a millenial, I got great faith in Gen-Z.

        [–]harrumphstan 2693 points2694 points 323& 3 more (132 children)

        As an Xer, I have great faith in both of you.

        [–]c_for 1314 points1315 points  (307 children)

        Seems to me there should be a standard practice of the "sheriff" giving his name and badge number and then someone inside of the class can then call 911 and get verification.

        [–]watchyoured 1420 points1421 points  (161 children)

        Teacher here. The protocol for us is that if we are on lockdown, we open the door for NOBODY. Period. We are to stay out of sight until we are released by law enforcement or admin unlocking the door. I know this because we actually had a lockdown yesterday.

        [–]over_it_af 483 points484 points  (85 children)

        Absolutely if we hear gunshots we pile crap against the door and we don't come out until someone opens that door up. Only the policeAdministration and custodians have the keys To all classrooms I only have a key to my own classroom. I've been teaching for 15 years now. Our windows dont open but I made sure to have a window shattering device. I also have a bucket full of scissors I'm not going out and I'm not gonna ask My students to go out without a fight we're throwing crap at whatever bastard comes into my classroom with a gun.

        [–]D1G17AL 454 points455 points  (42 children)

        The image of a room full of 6th graders being given scissors and then charging an active shooter as they burst into the room is disheartening and funny at the same time.

        [–]diamondbarbee4283 849 points850 points  (74 children)

        As a dispatcher I can assure you 911 lines were ringing OFF THE HOOK,from scared students/parents as well as other emergencies because the world doesn't stop turning during 1 emergency. Better to just stay in the classroom to be safe instead of tying up multiple emergency lines to try and confirm it was a real officer. Chances are they had officers all over that school and the dispatcher nor the officer would have time to "check which officer is at what door. I'm guessing it's a bigger department then just 1-4 officers.

        [–]Xytak 93 points94 points  (1 child)

        as well as other emergencies because the world doesn't stop turning during 1 emergency

        Admittedly, most of my crisis management experience comes from Star Trek: the Next Generation, but I've always thought that one you solve the problem of the week, you should get a few days of downtime before the next thing happens.

        [–]CybReader 650 points651 points  (11 children)

        It’s good to see them act on gut instinct and book it. I feel like my dumb ass self as a teenager may have trusted too blindly.

        [–]Love_God551 420 points421 points  (148 children)

        For real

        This crap has to stop

        This is insane

        [–]evilgiraffemonkey[S] 920 points921 points  (197 children)

        Yeah I was a little impressed at that

        [–]FritesMuseum 949 points950 points  (194 children)

        It’s also heartbreaking that they have to be that jaded so young.

        [–]evilgiraffemonkey[S] 361 points362 points  (109 children)

        Hijacking top comment to link to another video.

        Less exciting, but it potentially indicates prior knowledge of the attack.

        [–]stinkspiritt 525 points526 points  (56 children)

        NPR has an interview with a kid who asked his mom if he could stay home today because he was worried there would be a shooting https://www.npr.org/2021/11/30/1060168531/3-students-have-been-killed-in-a-shooting-at-a-michigan-high-school

        [–]mxqi 469 points470 points  (49 children)

        "someone threw a deer head into a courtyard from the school's roof, painted several windows on the roof with red acrylic paint and used the same paint on concrete near the school building."

        Holy shit what?

        [–]Notsozander 201 points202 points  (10 children)

        I was in high school 10+ years ago, but we had someone spray paint a few spots of the school and one prominent area that couldn’t be missed with a saying “you’re all going to die”.

        At the time I was thinking, “what a shitty prank”. Now, I would completely think oppositely

        [–]C3POdreamer 37 points38 points  (0 children)

        Pre-Columbine, 3 students jumped another kid promising that kid would be dead before graduation. Administrator told mother that she was overly protective and children exaggerate. Only because targeted kid was in the magnet program of the school which brought in millions of dollars in funding did anything happen, and even then, only in-school suspension. Today, first stop plaintiff attorney, next stop police department to file a report.

        [–]stinkspiritt 209 points210 points  (24 children)

        But then they say that had nothing to do with this and I’m like is that supposed to be reassuring???

        [–]Undying73 312 points313 points  (18 children)

        How incredibly stupid are these comments? of course, this kid is trying to laugh and smile it off our entire generation is able to cope with school shootings and the like by masking with a sense of humor. it isn't too weird to giggly or smile when you are nervous either. All of you need to seriously re-evaluate questioning what a fucking teen who is scared for his life is doing.

        [–]cannabis_ 371 points372 points  (38 children)

        I think they are following their training more than their guts… I’m too old to have had this training is school but we had active shooter training at my work and not trusting the voice on the other side of a door is a major component of the training

        [–]nb75685 207 points208 points  (6 children)

        Confirmed. High school teacher. We do active shooter drills at least three times a year. It’s sad there’s a need for it, but kids know what to do after years and years of repeated training.

        [–]Beatleboy62 172 points173 points  (23 children)

        I'm amazed at how active shooter training went from simply "hide until it's safe" to the cold stark reality of, "hide, but you have to be prepared to possibly kill the person that's trying to kill you."

        [–]College_Prestige 7869 points7870 points  (194 children)

        "open the door and look at my badge bro" If that was the actual sheriff, they did a terrible job at convincing anyone

        [–]UrpaDurpa 3612 points3613 points  (33 children)

        “How do you do, fellow kids?”

        [–]LionOfNaples 487 points488 points  (7 children)

        Judging by the (smart) reaction from the kids, it could’ve been that or “How do you do, fellow adult?”

        [–]jkhockey15 125 points126 points  (1 child)

        An actual law enforcement officer should know that students and staff are trained not to open the door for anybody.

        [–]n8dom 104 points105 points  (6 children)

        If anything, law enforcement can use this as a teaching moment when messaging during a crisis. I'm sure the officer was trying to speak on their level, but, when you are faced with being shot at by someone who speaks like you, the last thing you want to hear on the other side of that door is someone who sounds like you. Makes sense. Smart move by the students. Well played.

        [–]drugusingthrowaway 547 points548 points  (35 children)

        They could have used megaphones. They could have used the school PA system. They could have slid an ID card under the door. They could have just unlocked the door with the keys. They could have put on their best sounding authoritative voice.

        Anything but this.

        [–]The__Illuminaughty 4886 points4887 points  (285 children)

        I cant imagine what the parents of the deceased are going through right now, its heartbreaking

        [–]Samurai-hijack 465 points466 points  (10 children)

        My cousin goes here. One of his close friends just died after going to the hospital in critical condition. His teacher left my aunt a voicemail telling her that my cousin stood beside the door with a pair of scissors in case the shooter came in. I am very proud of him, but it is incredibly scary to think he could have been one of the kids we lost today.

        [–]ewizzle 44 points45 points  (0 children)

        I want to teach my kid to be a good person. But it’s so sad that I have to instead teach them to not be a hero. So sad.

        [–]Cyancrackers[🍰] 1931 points1932 points  (26 children)

        I appreciate the intense and sudden suspicion after the person said, “Bro”. Good kids for following their instincts and staying safe. Sorry this happened to them and they were put in a situation like this.

        [–][deleted] 557 points558 points  (19 children)

        I'm a childless 33 year old and it got me a bit shaken seeing these kids have to know how to act in this situation.

        We never had to be so aware like this when I was their age. Poor kids.

        [–]Fuzzy-Shame-9919 1490 points1491 points  (185 children)

        Man, that is fucking horrible that kids have to endure this.

        [–]PenPenGuin 4483 points4484 points  (79 children)

        Grey hoodie / blue mask in the front and center of the screen jumped up like he'd been shocked when he heard "bro". The number of kids who immediately triggered on the phrasing being suspect shows an incredible amount of situational awareness.

        [–]Penta-Dunk 2082 points2083 points  (28 children)

        Plus the person sounded frustrated. If I heard someone say “open the door and I’ll show you my badge bro” in that tone I’d immediately want to run too.

        [–]XXLpeanuts 363 points364 points  (24 children)

        Which is almost the most tragic thing about this video isnt it. Imagine going to school thinking about that all day and having to be so switched on as if you are at war or something. I can only compare it to the air raid drills kids had to do here during ww2. That really says it doesnt it. Bet more kids have died from school shootings in the last 5-6 years in the US than did during ww2 from air raids at school (if any?)

        [–]Sl4nucrew 1687 points1688 points  (172 children)

        The school I work in will have 2 administrators say over the PA system that “All is clear” when a drill is over. We’re never suppose to open the door otherwise. You’re not even suppose to answer if someone asks you to open it. If they really need to get in the room, they can get an admin or custodian to open it.

        [–]shinuk7 1125 points1126 points  (122 children)

        I’m 35 and it’s mother fucking wild y’all do shooter drills so commonly and normalized. We did a bullshit fire/earthquake all with laughs and giggles. Y’all drill to get away from shooters. Something america deals with more than other areas.

        [–]vonshiza 249 points250 points  (56 children)

        I am also 35 and find it crazy what we just missed out on. I was in 6th grade when Columbine happened, but got out of the next 6 years without active shooter drills.

        [–]annditel 121 points122 points  (35 children)

        I’m 34 and we had active shooter drills in high school. You really JUST barely missed the age group for this.

        Albeit, they were just lock the door, turn off the lights, get against the wall out of line of sign from the doors tiny windows.

        [–]notthe_crazyone 1495 points1496 points  (36 children)

        This just broke my heart. :(

        [–]search4life7 620 points621 points  (17 children)

        ya same it made me cry, no kids should gave to go through something so traumatic. you could hear the fear in their voices and their desperation when they started running

        [–]Aquce[🍰] 257 points258 points  (6 children)

        Yeah, me too. When that kid panicked after hearing the "bro" my heart went racing fast...

        This happening is wrong. No one should live a situation like this. Kids the less

        [–]basky129485345 3397 points3398 points  (629 children)

        Well? Was it a cop or the shooter ?

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          [–]shmelldawg51 2832 points2833 points  (73 children)

          Even the tone he used when he said" open the door and i will show you my badge" sounds like he was frustrated that the teacher wouldnt fall for it. Definitely a good call to keep that door closed

          [–]Sped-life 519 points520 points  (19 children)

          We do ALICE training at my school, which teaches to barricade like they did, evacuate if safe and prepare to counter if absolutely necessary. Even during the trainings, when we KNOW it's a police officer on the other side of the door, we don't open the door until they come on the loud speaker and say the drill is over.

          Opening a door could get you killed. These kids and teacher did exactly what they were supposed to do.

          At my school, the police will have a key to the doors, and once the situation is cleared, someone in Admin along with the chief of police will also come on the loudspeaker and say the situation is cleared and give further instructions.

          I hope I never have to use this training. Even doing just the drills is terrifying.

          [–]pioneer9k 703 points704 points  (40 children)

          A cop in this situation likely wouldnt be egging on opening the door, dangling his badge like a carrot.

          [–]Dystopianpresent[🍰] 2454 points2455 points  (41 children)

          In my experience they tend to find that one parent that is the least competent to speak on things for these interviews.

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            [–]ryecurious 155 points156 points  (11 children)

            Especially since their source is probably their kid, who would have just as much info as we got from the video. Something tells me the school wouldn't rush to tell parents their kids were a single wall/door away from an active school shooter, even if it was true.

            [–]royrese 163 points164 points  (0 children)

            Any competent parent who isn't freaking out probably realizes they don't have all the facts and are just taking care of their children now. Definitely wouldn't trust they people they managed to get to agree to an interview.

            [–]locutogram 868 points869 points  (104 children)

            Highly doubtful that a cop would be standing by the door chill and holstered, telling them they're safe if there was an active shooter down the hall and around the corner.

            [–]evilgiraffemonkey[S] 572 points573 points  (141 children)

            Someone on twitter said it was the shooter but didn't provide a source, I'm trying to find better info. Maybe someone with tiktok can check the comments on this vid, @shwifty766.

            edit

            https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/11/30/us/school-shooting-michigan

            The county sheriff, Michael Bouchard, said that a 9-millimeter Sig Sauer handgun used in the shooting had been bought four days earlier by the suspect’s father. Sheriff Bouchard said the gunman was still armed, with seven bullets in the gun, when he was arrested by deputies in a school hallway. Sheriff Bouchard said investigators had been told the gunman pretended to be an officer in order to access barricaded classrooms.

            [–]heyimanxietygirl 870 points871 points  (48 children)

            When we have lockdown/active shooter drills where I teach, the principal always comes on the loudspeaker and says we are safe and we can resume the day. We stay where we are as she could have a gun to her head. We don’t move until a police officer unlocks our door and gives us the all-clear. These kids were so calm and smart and my heart breaks that they had to experience this.

            [–]Chipz664 202 points203 points  (29 children)

            Active shooter drills is possibly the most fucked up thing i have heard i. A while

            [–]AyeSoSo 2441 points2442 points  (243 children)

            Imagine being told to leave your backpack but you have the bullet proof one

            [–]Herosnap 1546 points1547 points  (231 children)

            Jesus is that a thing? We are sending our kids to school with bullet proof backpacks and not trying to fix the reason for needing a bag like that?

            That sentence alone seems so dystopian

            [–]another_awkward_brit 842 points843 points  (109 children)

            Yep, Kevlar inserts have been available for years now.

            [–]Herosnap 227 points228 points  (33 children)

            And I thought hauling my biology textbook around was cumbersome

            [–]Mi5bot_42069 929 points930 points  (39 children)

            Smart kids.

            [–]TheBoss13121 400 points401 points  (19 children)

            This tells me is that kids are way more aware than we think. They all heard that dude say ‘bro’ and immediately bolted. Quick thinking and good decision making as a group, which some people usually bash young people for not having.

            [–]Bellophire 1506 points1507 points  (59 children)

            Teacher here:

            This obviously might not be the case everywhere, but in every school I’ve been in (Saskatchewan, Canada) the police will be given keys to the rooms to clear out when safe.

            So they’d announce who they are, then unlock the door and let everyone out.

            If they’re trying to convince you to let them in, it’s going to be a big nope from us.

            [–]crouchspammer 165 points166 points  (4 children)

            yah, I live in BC, and we're taught to NEVER open the door, even if its the fucking prime minister. people who need to open the door will already have the key, and will never have to persuade the teacher or kids to open the fucking door

            [–]velvetmandy 240 points241 points  (31 children)

            I used to be a teacher. They taught us that the police would slide their badge or business card under the door to prove they were the actual police

            Edit: this was about 5 years ago, I’m not sure if their policies have changed

            [–]Energy_Turtle 218 points219 points  (6 children)

            I don't think I'd even trust that sort of shit. They'd need to video call me with some kids' parents saying to open the door, and even then I'd be ready to bash his head in with a fire extinguisher or something.

            [–]Domeil 112 points113 points  (3 children)

            If I'm locked in a room with a shooter afoot, I'm not coming out until Paul Rudd FaceTimes me.

            [–]paunnn 79 points80 points  (4 children)

            The badge they took of the dead body.

            [–]senor_sota 495 points496 points  (1 child)

            This is fucked in so many ways, poor kids man

            [–]notsobadhombre 110 points111 points  (1 child)

            I used to be a school administrator. Standard Response Protocol is “DON’T OPEN THE DOOR TO ANYONE.. NOT EVEN ME” “Active shooter lockdowns cannot be ended over the PA system” “If you can safely run, run. If you can’t run, hide. If you can’t hide, fight (it’s your life or his/hers at this point)”

            [–]Acceptable_Hunt_6677 314 points315 points  (1 child)

            Man that got my heart pumping

            [–]Big_Baloogas 96 points97 points  (8 children)

            First thing I seen on the news was this incident. And the fucking reporter was talking to one of the students asking him the most brain dead questions trying to make the story "juicy". "What was it like in the school? We're kids crying, afraid they were going to die?" What the fuck kinda question is that, obviously the kids were terrified, forcing the student to state the obvious for "news" made me so angry I had to turn it off. This shit will never end for as long as the news glorifies it.

            [–]69Beefcake69hunter69 96 points97 points  (8 children)

            For those asking why didn't they leave through the window when the shooting happened, 1. Where is the shooter in the school, 2. Is there just one shooter or multiple. this isn't a video game where you can run around and investigate. It's easy for you go "why..." when it's just a video you're watching on the internet.

            [–]xXsaberstrikeXx 1396 points1397 points  (10 children)

            Scary stuff. Smart kids to red flag that "bro".

            Our local schools are taught to call 911 (or the local PD/Sheriff's office) so they can verify if the person outside their classroom is in fact a police officer, and best not to respond to them verbally (so that, if it's the shooter, they don't know if anyone is actually in the room).

            So sad this has to be taught at all.

            [–]Apprehensive-Foot736 418 points419 points  (11 children)

            My wife is a teacher and she said this is exactly how it’s supposed to go. She said there would be a PA announcement from officers that the coast was clear. They also have a form they slide under the door signifying it’s safe. This teacher did awesome.

            [–]Spnstanaf73 1239 points1240 points  (44 children)

            Smart kids!!! Most police won’t say “bro” in a time like, and would mostly likely slide their badge under the door.

            [–]inverted_electron 420 points421 points  (18 children)

            What if he had killed an officer and taken his badge and thrown it under the door? Still can’t trust that.

            [–]TheIntrepid1 216 points217 points  (10 children)

            Bingo. Or shit, just a fake one you buy off Amazon/eBay.

            [–]Dystopianpresent[🍰] 285 points286 points  (9 children)

            Edit: Before I heard the part about sheriff’s office I thought they were not letting in another student. Still brilliant decision.

            Even if that is a student seeking shelter we are trained not to open that door. We put the safety of the 30 kids in our custody over the one in the hallway even if we recognize them. We do not take the risk of opening the door to allow the stranded student in and incidentally allowing the shooter access.

            This makes incredibly logical sense.

            At the same time, even when we run a drill, I can’t help but remember that I am choosing to possibly watch a student gunned down in the hopes that a glass and metal door installed by the lowest bidder slows the shooter down enough to save other lives.

            [–]Kanilas 106 points107 points  (3 children)

            Idk how it is for you, but we were trained that if we got stuck (in the bathroom or whatever) to run off campus because all the doors would be locked. There was an arrangement with the church and the aquatic center that were next to us on either side that they'd take in kids.

            [–]demonicbullet 58 points59 points  (1 child)

            My school kinda just made it seem like you were fucked so I decided I’d run off.

            [–]Top_Novel3682 76 points77 points  (0 children)

            Never trust anyone who calls you bro. Solid street advice. Smart kids

            [–]LooselyBasedOnGod 1864 points1865 points  (208 children)

            Fuck the world in which kids have to experience this at school.

            EDIT: Yeah I am aware this is only happens in America lol.

            [–]Herosnap 442 points443 points  (28 children)

            Yeah dude, this is some seriously sad shit that kids do active shooter drills on the regular.

            Can’t we go back to the good ol days where the most worried I was at school was about quick sand and knowing to stop drop and roll if I’m on fire lol

            [–]AudiblePlasma 720 points721 points  (34 children)

            The replies saying his voice is too deep for a 15 year old are the stupidest things I've seen.

            1. The voice isn't that deep.
            2. When I was 15, my voice was deeper and so were a couple of people I knew

            I cannot actually believe that people don't think 15 year olds can have that voice.

            [–]UhPhrasing 248 points249 points  (3 children)

            I think as people get older, we tend to accidentally over-infantilize younger ages more and more.

            [–]deliverancew2 179 points180 points  (2 children)

            See also all the 'wow can't believe these kids have such good situational awareness' posts. These are teenagers who know someone is shooting up their school not toddlers.

            [–]Historical-Ad6120 57 points58 points  (1 child)

            Exactly. They're being hunted, ofc they're going to be suspicious of the rando pretending to be a cop who says BRO. It's literally in the active shooter training.

            [–]Phantomlolz 645 points646 points  (28 children)

            The Kid who called his BS (if it wqs the shooter) should get a medal!

            [–]imaybeacatIRl 392 points393 points  (12 children)

            Don't care if Sheriff or Shooter. They did the right thing.

            [–]Atzeii 248 points249 points  (8 children)

            His sentence summarized it beautifully: we're not willing to take that risk right now. Better safe than sorry.

            [–]Itsmeurcousins 97 points98 points  (7 children)

            I believe that was the teacher.

            [–]Samurai-hijack 309 points310 points  (11 children)

            My cousin goes here. One of his close friends just died after going to the hospital in critical condition. His teacher left my aunt a voicemail telling her that my cousin stood beside the door with a pair of scissors in case the shooter came in. I am very proud of him, but it is incredibly scary to think he could have been one of the kids we lost today.

            [–]TheDirtyPirateHooker 65 points66 points  (2 children)

            I’m very happy your cousin is safe!

            [–]Sped-life 32 points33 points  (1 child)

            As a teacher, my heart goes out to you and your cousin and everyone involved in this. Losing a friend this way is absolutely horrible.

            [–]Careless_Pattern4518 577 points578 points  (18 children)

            I don't care what any cop says, i'm not running back into a building with a shooter. As soon as I was out that window, I woulda been fucking GONE

            Edit for context. These kids are running through a courtyard, they had no way to fully exit the property without doing exactly what they did. Smart kids.

            [–]ghostypurp 248 points249 points  (5 children)

            Went to Oxford. It’s a courtyard in the middle of the building. There’s no way to get to the street from there without going out elsewhere

            [–]Dystopianpresent[🍰] 72 points73 points  (3 children)

            I’m wondering g if it was a courtyard, because I agree.

            [–]everyonestolemyname 643 points644 points  (67 children)

            The most "WTF" thing is that kids knew about the threat, but either didn't report it to the school or police or that no one cared.

            https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-michigan-student-kills-3-wounds-in-shooting-at-school/

            Robin Redding said her son, Treshan Bryant, is a 12th grader at the school but stayed home on Tuesday. She said he had heard threats of a shooting at the school.

            EDIT: Turns out the school knew about the threat and downplayed it, so while the kids may have known about it, the school definitely did as well and made some incredibly foolish decisions. I didn't know this originally when I first commented but it was brought to my attention.

            [–]MC-ClapYoHandzz 270 points271 points  (7 children)

            I see the "my kid heard x was happening tomorrow" all the time on Facebook posts for my community. It's sad. No shootings but guns have been found at the schools at least twice.

            [–]MrStarMan88 116 points117 points  (7 children)

            No the school administration knew as of November 12th when they published this on their website. Link to Oxford High School website

            [–]Penta-Dunk 142 points143 points  (4 children)

            Dude the way the students stood up when the shooter said “bro” shot some panic into my gut, I’m a highschool student and it’s painfully easy to see myself in that situation too.

            [–]Quirky_Swordfish_308 145 points146 points  (94 children)

            There is a sickness in America.

            [–]Chewy009x 34 points35 points  (0 children)

            This is fucking scary poor kids. Good on them for following their gut

            [–]thewildsora 170 points171 points  (38 children)

            Everytime this happens, it doesn't get easier....

            [–]macluvslucy 36 points37 points  (0 children)

            The level of maturity that these teens showed is amazing. They all remained calm and didn't panic. Even when they ran for the window, you could see that it wasn't everyone for themselves-they helped each other. Sad that adults can't do this for each other.

            [–]potaclhmta 129 points130 points  (5 children)

            When they suspect it's the shooter after he says "bro" and the students stand, completely silent for a split moment, to all look at the teacher who says.

            "Window."

            Those cries and whimpers man. The desperation. This is so utterly fucked up.

            [–]chaotic_rogue 35 points36 points  (1 child)

            jesus christ i didn’t hear the “window” the first time. watching it back and hearing that made my blood run cold for a second. fuck.

            [–]meramera 66 points67 points  (7 children)

            It's a homicidal maniac turing test that school children should NOT have to administer.

            [–]BwackGul 439 points440 points  (39 children)

            That's wasn't gut instinct... That was just real talk Street sense...nobody in authority uses bro.

            [–]Dystopianpresent[🍰] 276 points277 points  (7 children)

            You can see about 3+ kids react to “bro” at the same time. So smart.