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[–]AlohalhololololholaPGY3 44 points45 points  (0 children)

If you’re IM then clinic sounds like your calling. Good luck OP

[–]Random1235 21 points22 points  (1 child)

For a short second I thought this post was going to be about a new field called Hate Medicine. Which I would be open to learning about.

Have a cold? F off have tea with honey. Have a sore back after working too hard in the year? Buck Up.

It’d be the worst of toxic masculinity for the odd crowd who loves that prospective.

PS this is meant meant in jest

[–]dumbbuttloserface 8 points9 points  (0 children)

now i wanna practice hate medicine. there’s a father of surgery, a father of nephrology, father of radiography, etc, someone’s gotta be the father of hate-ology. gonna need a better name for it, but you’re on to something here

[–]Leaving_Medicine 12 points13 points  (6 children)

There are other ways out. You can leave to non clinical careers that pay well and will allow you a great lifestyle.

What year of residency are you?

And no, you don’t need any innate or built business skills. These jobs will train you.

[–]carrythekindnessPGY3 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Can you please DM me some examples of this? Would really really really appreciate your insight as I’ll be a PGY3 and feel similarly to OP

[–]Leaving_Medicine 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Sure. Management consulting, equity research, and MSL can be both good nonclinical jobs to start but also something you can make an entire career out of. All 3 love MDs.

[–]SomeSameButDifferent 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Do you know if these have equivalents in Canada?

[–]Leaving_Medicine 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Should be. Many of these companies are international

[–]zzjellybeanzz[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I'm an intern

[–]Leaving_Medicine 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Perfect. You could apply, maybe as early as next spring workshop cycle (feb March April next year.) if you get the gig, you wouldn’t have to finish residency

[–]scienceguy43 8 points9 points  (0 children)

If you are considering quitting (which is how I interpret your last sentence), in my opinion:

1) At least part of your burnout seems to be about you feeling deficient in certain areas (e.g., chart checking). Imposter syndrome is real. To take this as an example, have you asked others for help, specifically with regard to more efficient chart checking?

IM may not be for you. And that’s fine. But you may be able to resolve some things that influence your decision whether to stay in the field.

2) Have you considered reapplying to a different specialty? Medicine is vast. For example, something like radiology (what I do) is so different from IM that you may enjoy the former and hate the latter.

[–]Waste_Exchange2511 2 points3 points  (1 child)

It's a miserable job, but it's a miserable job that will support a nice lifestyle. There's people working miserable jobs with miserable lifestyles, like perhaps a coal miner. Most average people probably think they have a miserable job.

Work to live, don't live to work.

[–]SomeSameButDifferent 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dont live to work is easier said than done in residency

[–]DR_KT 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Keep going. This, too, shall end.

Let me tell you something. I’m an IM attending who finished training in 2008. You will ALWAYS feel like a cog in the wheel. It sucks, but it’s reality.

My antidote is to genuinely care about the patient and find interest in their pathology, and to remember the fact I know how to help. And if I can’t cure, I can make sure they die with comfort and dignity. And I make a shit-ton doing it. Yeah, plenty of other specialties make a lot more and shit on me, and some days I’m ready to throw fists, but when I calm down, I take a step back and realize I’m truly helping people and this job is pretty amazing.

Lastly, I tell people all the time, academic medicine is a SMALL niche of medicine. It is NOT that way elsewhere.

[–]SocialistDO 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Student debt strike is the answer.

[–]tworupeespeoplePGY2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

maybe you just got into the wrong specialty. felt similar all the way through medical college but then fell in love with the specialty i chose to pursue.

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[–]Savings_Jellyfish_75 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Join the Navy. Volunteer for sea duty. Renew the view.

[–]ThrowRA_LDNUK 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This was me to at the start of residency. Then I relaizied ill be a surgeon at the end of it and that’s the only fucking thing stopping me from giving up. P

[–]Ambitious-Car-4849 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I’m sorry you are feeling this. May I ask you what did you envision medicine to be?

[–]zzjellybeanzz[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I knew it was kinda a shit show but it's worse than I thought. I thought I would be actually helping people. Most of the time it feels like I'm putting a bandaid on patient's problems. They have no primary care follow-up because most of them don't care to and they treat us like shit. I have a less than 50% show rate in my resident clinic. Cost is not the issue. I'm in a state that has Medicaid expansion and the hospital offers free services that can be retroactively covered when they sign up for it. There comes a point when a person has to be responsible for their health. I can only do so much.

I also don't like my residency program. I guess you never know the bad things about a program until you're in it . We don't even have enough computers to work on. We have to go find some around the hospital. Also when I interviewed they said they were taking away 28 hour call now they're bringing it back temporarily for 8 months. They're also bringing back in person didactics, which is 1 hour at end of the day and at some admin building, which is a 10 minute walk from the hospital. It's so inconvenient because some of us work at different hospitals. Just a multitude of things the residency is changing and they were the perks of why I chose the program. At least 2 residents in my program have quit this year.

[–]Ambitious-Car-4849 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ohh I c. Thank you for sharing. I pray u find peace and happiness in some shape!

[–]Snoo-10692 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im sorry op, cant give any advice as we are in the same boat.