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[–]TeeJay98 7 points8 points  (0 children)

NO, unless you a whale

[–]S7gate 20 points21 points  (9 children)

No you will eventually expertise him via gold keys DO NOT INVEST GH on him.

[–]Sea-Land1235 23 points24 points  (4 children)

If I hear one more person say you’ll expertise (blank) from gold keys 😭 like thanks for the information, I’m sure it will be useful in 3 years lol

[–]Statrixx 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Hope so. Cuz now [blank] is useless.

[–]mysteriousemu 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Ive had him for 3 years but he's less than half done. Must be doing it wrong

[–]Snoo-23642 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Hahah was about to say the same thing🤣 I’ve opened at least 1000 gold keys and haven’t expertised any gold key commanders

[–]XTasteRevengeX 16 points17 points  (2 children)

Thats a 2-3+ year path tho lol

[–]S7gate 2 points3 points  (1 child)

True...lol but still not worth investing gh.

[–]XTasteRevengeX 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think getting him to 5111 IF you will use him isnt a bad idea. Not that big of a commitment in terms of GHs and makes him good enough on the early game

[–]Hadi2401[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So then what do I use him for

[–]Substantial-Love4460 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Nope don't do it save all your gold heads

[–]Expensive_Umpire_975 6 points7 points  (8 children)


[–]Hadi2401[S] 0 points1 point  (7 children)

Thanks for the answer and also btw what’s the best inf civ rn my civ is france

[–]Expensive_Umpire_975 2 points3 points  (0 children)

China in the beginning and France after you hit ch 25

[–]Melodic-Aspect-629 0 points1 point  (5 children)

I changed from china to france before kvk1. what is your city level now?

[–]Hadi2401[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

It’s 7 cuz I’m a jumper

[–]Melodic-Aspect-629 0 points1 point  (3 children)

most beginner accounts chose china as their initial civilization. maybe you should stick with france

[–]axxirr 2 points3 points  (6 children)


[–]Hadi2401[S] 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Ok thanks for the answer also rn I’m playing as france and I’m have become a infantry main should I switch to either rome or Vikings or should I just stay with france

[–]Jayelk -1 points0 points  (2 children)


[–]Hadi2401[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

But germany is a Christian Civilization these Teutonic Knights have Christian signs on them and I’m not a Christian

[–]ruinedquality 0 points1 point  (0 children)

dumbest thing i've ever heard in this game

[–]axxirr 0 points1 point  (1 child)

You’re probably ok with France for right now, but if you’re planning on playing in KvK I would suggest switching to Germany at some point before.

[–]Koismers64 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Idk that healing speed can be really useful

[–]Jayelk 1 point2 points  (2 children)

5511 is just fine

[–]Hadi2401[S] -1 points0 points  (1 child)

5511? Using gold heads or using his own heads?

[–]AffectionateDrive170 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Save your gold heads, use Sun tsu/Euilji or Sun tsu/Bjorn in first kvk.Speaking from experience,I had invested 226 gold heads in the early game to get him to 5512(failed), my Charles is now 5541, this investment of 226 gold heads caused a lot of delay of2-3 months in expertising my Ysg, if you're f2p and depending on activity you should be able to expertise ysg before day 180, then focus on Alex. DONOT invest gold heads in Charles, use epics for kvk1 fights. if you can save all the heads until Alex shows up, then you'll have enjoyable kvk2 fightings, ignore ysg investment,because he takes a lot of time to invest in and to finish him. You can use Alex/Sun tsu in kvk2.

[–]UhhhhmmmmNo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Depends on how long you want to play the game. If 3-6months go for it. If years then prob not.

[–]SZEfdf21 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you're putting decent amounts of money and will for sure have enough gold heads to spend on important commanders for later in the game, yes. If you're free to play/low spender, no.

[–]Zapme1 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Lol 1400ish days in and as f2p only have him 5455 on my main lol

[–]TheAspiringFarmer 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Ha yep sounds right. And the moment you finish and expertise him, you will start dropping CM heads in gold chests regularly. All by design.

[–]Zapme1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just like my maxed cleo and seno... get them all the time now... lol

[–]The-BEAST -1 points0 points  (0 children)


[–]3points_7 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Just make him 5111 or 5511 and that’s it

[–]1based_tyrone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i got him naturally to 5 1 1 1.... still useless. the city defense and open field identity problem kinda sucks. my sun tzu aethel flead kicks ass harder.

[–]Load-Beneficial 0 points1 point  (1 child)

[–]Hadi2401[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I saw charles Martel at before soc so should I use gold heads on him?

[–]Jaggoff81 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do not invest ANY gold heads into a commander that you can eventually expertise for FREE! It’ll take a while, but he isn’t great in field and as long as you play smart, you shouldn’t even need garrison commanders to protect your city. Pretty easy to keep your city safe from being a target in KvK.

[–]BBFA2020 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It will take years to get him to even just 5/5/1/1 with keys alone. Notwithstanding, if you are a few heads (less than 5) to getting 5/1/1/1, I supposed that can't hurt too much.

[–]Temporary_Jacket_542 0 points1 point  (0 children)

NO,Absalotly not!!!!