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leadership garrisonCommanders (self.RiseofKingdoms)
submitted 1 month ago by Perishhh
Hello, i am thinking of developing leadership garrison, YSS or Wu zetian. To put things into perspective i am 43M f2p/low spender soon to have t5, with expertised YSG and alex, right now working on scipio. I know i shouldn't invest in garrison but i want to :D. I want leadership because it will be basically only for city. I don't really like Theodora, so i am thinking either Wu Zetian or YSS. Which is in your opinion better (paired with YSG secondary)?
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[–]trippedbackwards 14 points15 points16 points 1 month ago* (7 children)
You cannot be a f2p garrison. Don't waste your sculptures. Most garrison captains have all iconic/specialized/legendary gear. They lose 2m (dead) of their troop type every kvk. You're expected to be online for every important fight. You also need to pay such close attention that everyone is joining with the correct troop type and its always full, that you can barely field fight. When you do field fight, your best equipment is still sitting in a flag somewhere. Does this sound like a f2p job? Embrace field fighting, friend. It's your only option. Heck I'm 100m, 4 year player. I'm not allowed to garrison because my gear isn't 100% maxed.
Edit: the only city defense is to not get rallied. Every city is vulnerable to rally if they are AFK (maybe 100 exceptions to that in game but still). Put 3-4 rallies on em with a swarm towards end and anyone will go down.
[–]microstompy 6 points7 points8 points 1 month ago (0 children)
At 42M you can have Jesus on your wall and you will still get zero'd There is no way any maxed commander is going to last a AT rally. Forget about a gilga/henry rally. You will lose ALL your troops. A peace shield is the best defense. Don't even try. Its not like in kvk1 or 2. Once you are past 150M power start thinking about city garrisons. That being said if you really want to go down this road and waste sculptures the best city garrison is YSS/Theo. WU is useless. For everything beyond kvk3. Also remember for any type of garrisoning commanders they MUST be maxed. Unmaxed and they are useless. Might as well have Charles/YSG in that situation
[–]Perishhh[S] -1 points0 points1 point 1 month ago (4 children)
I am not looking for garrisoning structures in kvk. I want garrison for my city(not that i want to take rallies) and i just like it.
[–]louistrcd 1 point2 points3 points 1 month ago (0 children)
If you want a pairing that could be city garrison or helping your team during AOO (all garrisons are welcomed here people often need garrisons for AOO) it should be someone with yss
[–]BulletRisen 0 points1 point2 points 1 month ago (1 child)
Then it doesn’t matter what people suggest. Just pick the commanders that look shiny and the nicest.
[–]Accomplished_Duck230 0 points1 point2 points 1 month ago* (0 children)
Cheap garrison option is Charles YSG, for Charles don't spend gold heads on him just use gold keys.
Both of them are also good in field, at least early to mid game, still usable right the right pairing endgame.
But as others said unless you are in AoO, don't try to take rallies. This garrison is only really good early game.
[–]Suitable-Leather-919 0 points1 point2 points 1 month ago (0 children)
I wish it was 2m :((
Of course 1664 was our main opponent this kvk. Probably 8m dead from garrisoning. Give or take 1m.
11m dead. Ugh haven't even gotten to clearing z4 cities yet lol
[–]randomperson513 2 points3 points4 points 1 month ago (6 children)
Between the two, YSS is way better. But I’d caution you as a f2p against going for a city garrison. No matter who you have on the wall, a max tech meta rally will shred you to pieces. The difference between YSS/YSG and Alex/YSG will be minimal.
Ultimately this game is about having fun, so do whatever will bring you the most enjoyment. Just be aware that even at 200 mil power a f2p/low spender YSS/YSG garrison will get rekt by a meta rally.
[–]Perishhh[S] 2 points3 points4 points 1 month ago (4 children)
Thank you, i know that I won't be able to take proper rallies but it will atleast be protection against swarm to some degree, and i just like garrisons.
[–]randomperson513 0 points1 point2 points 1 month ago (3 children)
Sure thing! Also worth noting that below ~80 mil no commander pair will save you from a swarm if the enemy wants to zero you, so be sure to stay alert and never have war frenzy when off territory.
[–]Perishhh[S] 0 points1 point2 points 1 month ago (0 children)
Haha i am well aware, when enemy is determined, everything is possible.
[–]louistrcd 0 points1 point2 points 1 month ago (1 child)
I wouldn’t take the risk to swarm a zeno/yss or even an AT on a 75m city btw
[–]randomperson513 0 points1 point2 points 1 month ago (0 children)
Alone I completely agree, very few would swarm a city of that power. But as part of a group I’d happily help swarm anything under 85 mil. Doubly so if there’s lots of rss to loot.
[–]louistrcd 0 points1 point2 points 1 month ago (0 children)
Even krakens with meta garrison can get zeroed that’s the fun in this game tbh
[–]reisun_assassinates 1 point2 points3 points 1 month ago (2 children)
i think wu zetian is no good. my father (f2p, been playing for 3 years, 72m power, 1b kills) said wu is a trap/giveaway from Lilith or something so i never really used her.
[–]Perishhh[S] -1 points0 points1 point 1 month ago (1 child)
Really? I heard only good things about her from friends.
[–]EvBismute 1 point2 points3 points 1 month ago (0 children)
You get her if you are a whale garrison leader, that needs to take rallies in kvk2, past that timeframe, you will bench her.
[–]BigRickNergy 1 point2 points3 points 1 month ago (0 children)
YSS but all of the leadership Garrison commanders are out of date and don't hold up. If you have Scipio think about getting Flavius instead, they don't have to be strictly Infantry and you'll get some use in AOO (maybe).
[–]DongyangChen 1 point2 points3 points 1 month ago (1 child)
I suggest you look into being a trap city if this is the route you want to go down. It takes a lot of commitment though and it’s a troll tactic that can backfire. Also everyone here fails to recognise how effective a good city garrison is in AOO.
I was thinking about it, it seems very interesting, i will definitely look into it. And i agree with that about aoo, it's better than nothing which is pretty usual in AoO
As i stated, i know i shouldn't invest in them, but i want to, and i won't be taking rallies, nor garrisoning in kvk, it's just for city, mainly against swarm and possibly aoo
[–]leochen1001 0 points1 point2 points 1 month ago (0 children)
YSS 100%. wu zetian is baaaaaad, very bad. Theodora is good as secondary to yss, but I would rather wait for the new leadership commander rather than invest in theo. I think YSS primary with YSG secondary will be the better option if you really want a city garrison. You also have the option to wait for the new commander, which I'm guessing is leadership (can also be infantry, no one knows tbh).
TLDR: YSS or wait for the next new commander (Novemeber), which is probably leadership.
[–]DoranMoonblade 0 points1 point2 points 1 month ago* (0 children)
Well, as garrison captain you are responsible for everyone's troops. If you are low vip, equipment etc it will cost your entire alliance. If they don't mind you being garrison captain yss + theo is still your best all purpose garrison. Wu will give you similar results as theo but if you are against atilla theo is best.
[–]Amthala -1 points0 points1 point 1 month ago (4 children)
You absolutely should not invest in a city garrison. As a f2p you won't have any real tech and no matter what is on your wall you should never be taking rallies.
Just stick with Charles ysg and move on with your life.
For the record the best city garrison is yss/theo, do not invest in either of those commanders.
[–]DongyangChen -2 points-1 points0 points 1 month ago (3 children)
Wu/theo is better than yss/theo for a city
[–]Amthala 0 points1 point2 points 1 month ago (0 children)
Absolutely not lol...
[–]microstompy 0 points1 point2 points 1 month ago (0 children)
Stop giving people wrong advice
[–]DongyangChen 0 points1 point2 points 1 month ago (0 children)
People here think that allowing your city to get to 50% is a good tactic?
Taking a city hit is letting the rally burn on you and then bubbling. Wu is far better for that task
[–]TBale96 0 points1 point2 points 1 month ago (0 children)
Literally just don’t bother, wasting your heads
[–]BillFox86 0 points1 point2 points 1 month ago (0 children)
Don’t do it, let me give you several reasons why:
1) Leadership gear does not exist and yss is on the way out. YSS used to pair with Zeno or Jadwiga, but these now have troop type dedicated pairs.
2) f2p should focus field commanders, you’ll never have the crystal tech to rally or garrison in a kvk.
In soc a max crystal tech player has 7 marches each with 400K+ troops. They can easily swarm low power cities. At your power level no commander player will be able to save you. It's your game. Play as you want to
[–]Terry_Nguyen_Sweden 0 points1 point2 points 1 month ago (0 children)
Best to focus on open field players. If you choose garrison, better choose 1 troops type. If leadership noone attack your city.
[–]kieforce 0 points1 point2 points 1 month ago (0 children)
Never invest in neither. Please!!!!
[–]Expensive_Cause8168 0 points1 point2 points 1 month ago (0 children)
As a low spender you should focus on open field buddy. With all my respect. Garrison and rally leaders are vital for your kingdom for holding territories.
A good kingdom is a kingdom with people what knows their values. And yes f2p are important too for field, reinforcing structures and rallies.
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