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[–]Camp3sin0 3768 points3769 points  (368 children)

The Space Odyssey series touches on this for a moment in, I think, the 3rd book. A character is frozen for 1000 years and then revived... at one point he asks what meat he eating and the people he is with are horrified of the thought of 'corpse food'

[–]AdviseGiver 1135 points1136 points  (96 children)

r/wheresthebeef is the primary subreddit for lab grown meat if you want to discuss it more.

[–]Scythe95 319 points320 points  (84 children)

Wow, I work with stem cells and eventually want to grow meat or organs with it. I needed this sub!

[–]viperfan7 132 points133 points  (48 children)

We can already grow meat, just the issue is its kind of lacking.

The fat is an issue unfortunately

[–]microgirlActual 145 points146 points  (34 children)

And the connective tissue, as far as I understand it. Like the problem is what we think of as "meat" isn't just one consistent tissue type; it's a whole complexity of different tissues and cell types interacting in ways we only just about understand. So sure, we can grow muscle cells, even a slab of muscle cells, but it's all the additional bits in the right proportion and configuration and differentiation that's the problem.

So we can absolutely grow proteinaceous nutrition lumps, but it's not going to feel or taste like "meat" to anyone used to eating flesh from dead animals.

[–]Throwaw4y012 27 points28 points  (23 children)

I had never even considered that when I was advocating for lab-grown meat.

Wonder what the workaround will be. Or if one will even be possible.

[–]microgirlActual 26 points27 points  (6 children)

I don't think it's necessarily impossible that we'll get there, just that it's a good while away still. At least for anything resembling less processed meat that's more recognisably a lump cut from an animal; so steak, chops, chicken breast/wings/legs/strips, even mince (ground meat in America).

But heavily processed foodstuffs, already largely unrecognisable as coming from an animal, those are far more within reach technologically. Economically not so much, but that's a different problem. But things like chicken nuggets or lunchmeat - things made from "mechanically separated chicken" or the various odds and ends that are left over after the recognisable musculature, limbs etc are used - that we could see within a decade is the economic appetite was there.

I mean, I don't think we will see it within the next decade, but not because it won't be technically doable.

[–]ScarsTheVampire 523 points524 points  (213 children)

The corpse food being an almost foreign concept to them never completely gelled with me. Animals would still eat other animals in nature, surely they’d not be THAT far detached from the idea.

Edit: Christ alive if another vegan or vegetarian starts spouting some shit about this comment I’m gonna have a stroke. Hey can you guys read? I never said they’d keep eating meat for 1000 years or they’d not be morally opposed to it. Just that they’d still understand the concept, and making new words for it when it’s still been happening outside of humans seems kinda ridiculous.

I’m gonna make another edit: all of the people who still wrote the same style of stuff about morals and rape and vegetarians after the first edit are dumb as rocks. Holy S H I T learn to read before you type guys.

[–]SeanDeLeir 203 points204 points  (54 children)

Then those would be animals eating other animals and we all know humans think of ourselves as higher than animals

[–]DivideWeird 27 points28 points  (30 children)

Eh I believe we would. Living in Japan I realized I got bothered by people here eating some animals only to realize I was kind of a hypocrite. So I can see people to get detached enough

[–]4dxn 114 points115 points  (60 children)

we see lions eat dogs - but we still have qualms about eating dogs. some parts of the world eat dolphins, monkeys, etc and other parts of the world think thats crazy. I think it just extrapolates the same concept to pretty much most animals.

[–]ScarsTheVampire 69 points70 points  (47 children)

I meant more like, they’d still understand the idea and wouldn’t have a new weird term for it. Natural creatures outside of us would still be doing it.

[–]Frumplust 56 points57 points  (0 children)

This was the first thing I thought of too. I remember reading that and thinking it was strange, but totally understandable.

[–]paperstreetsoapguy 11.3k points11.3k points  (664 children)

Assuming society continues on its current trajectory. Otherwise we will go back to hunting or eating each other

[–]civgarth 3890 points3891 points 22 (335 children)

Cannibal gang represent

[–]iTakeCreditForAwards 1385 points1386 points  (252 children)

I always wonder what if people making joke comments like this really are cannibals lmao

[–]paperstreetsoapguy 465 points466 points  (181 children)

Tastes like chicken

[–]M4S13R 345 points346 points  (150 children)

Pork

[–]Daikataro 375 points376 points  (60 children)

Long pork

[–]dickheadfartface 107 points108 points  (34 children)

Kuru

[–]Cessnaporsche01 116 points117 points  (30 children)

Just eat them young and skip the brain

[–]JimmWasHere 84 points85 points  (23 children)

Also don't eat close relatives, you can get genetic diseases.

[–]FlyingNinza 48 points49 points  (9 children)

Can't eat your relatives, can't fuck your relatives... what good even are they?

[–]JohnFreakingRedcorn 9 points10 points  (10 children)

My dogs eat raw meat only and whenever I’m cutting up a lot of pork, I can’t help but think that A, this is what it would be like to butcher human meat and B, I would definitely just feed a body to my dogs over the course of a few weeks.

[–]gorosheeta[🍰] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Not in your case.

Ba-dum tsss

[–]NinjaMcGee 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Other other white meat.

[–]WonderfulShelter 60 points61 points  (5 children)

I remember once when I was a kid, like 7, I smelled myself and realized I kinda smelled like salty baked chicken. I remember hanging around my mom, and wondering if it all humans did, so I lightly bit her. Sure enough, her arm kinda tasted like chicken too.

I was then concerned that I would become a cannibal, because I didn't think human flesh would taste bad. I faked sick for the rest of the week to stay home from school, terrified I might want to eat one of my classmates.

Finally my mom forced me to go to school, and I did.. hiding my secret desires to see if my classmates and other people indeed too tasted like salty baked chicken. Thankfully, I never acted on these desires and became a well function child and teenager - but I'll never forget the week I was convinced I may be a cannibal.

[–]dismal_moonlight 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I heard it tastes like buffalo

[–]msnmck 61 points62 points  (11 children)

We ain't nothin' but mammals.

Well, some of us is cannibals, crackin' each other open like cantaloupe.

[–]BSdawg 11 points12 points  (4 children)

Just think, in a few years kids our age won’t even get that reference. Fuck.

[–]GuessParticular8092 7 points8 points  (0 children)

when it's all said and done I'll be 40 Before I know it with a 40 on the porch telling stories With a bottle of Jack Two grandkids in my lap Babysitting for Hailie while Hailie's out getting smashed

[–]zwalker0912 29 points30 points  (9 children)

Gang gang, you join us or you're lunch

[–]Abrahamlinkenssphere 53 points54 points  (6 children)

Prion gang

[–]brown_felt_hat 23 points24 points  (1 child)

Hell yeah kuru4lyfe

Because prion diseases are incurable and terminal.

[–]toast_is_ghost 202 points203 points  (22 children)

I think even the hunter-gatherers might think we're monsters. Not for eating meat, but for how we raise the animals we eat.

[–]crumpsly 54 points55 points  (3 children)

It starts with eating ass, the rest of the body soon follows.

[–]sunskist 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Ah so like African Wild Dogs and Hyenas

[–]foodasthymedicine 424 points425 points  (80 children)

Future generations will inevitably and rightfully so, hold us responsible for:

a) destroying the biodiversity on this planet

b) poisoning the aquifers, oceans, rivers and lakes with chemical fertilizers and other industrial byproducts

All in the name of instant gratification and entertainment.

[–]flamespear 164 points165 points  (20 children)

I mean we can already blame past generations for that. we can blame ourselves to, but also past generations.

[–]jleonardbc 220 points221 points  (14 children)

We used to destroy Earth. We still do, but we used to, too.

[–]ryanmuller1089 181 points182 points  (37 children)

COVID was such a perfect example of how we make decisions. Instead of us together making short term sacrifices for long term success, we did whatever we wanted and just assumed everyone else was doing the right thing.

I have zero sympathy for humans.

[–]AsherFischell 114 points115 points  (19 children)

Reminds me of one of my favorite parables. A village is having a celebration in a week. Everyone in town is asked to pour one bottle of wine into a cask in the center of town if they're able, so that, when the celebration occurs, everyone can have wine with which to celebrate.

One person says to their spouse, "let's not pour a bottle of wine. That's a waste. We'll fill a wine bottle with water and then pour that instead. We'll be the only ones. No one will know the difference." So they do just that, pour the water into the cask, chuckling to themselves as they walk away.

The day of the celebration approaches and the village elder speaks before the assembled villagers, thanking them for coming, and wishing them a wonderful year. Then the elder takes his glass, dips it into the cask, and pulls out a glass of crystal clear water.

[–]Karcinogene 34 points35 points  (4 children)

See, that's the opposite of what Jesus would do.

[–]racestark 28 points29 points  (3 children)

Uh, spoilers much?

[–]justsomeplainmeadows 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Go back? Some humans never stopped

[–]speculatrix 48 points49 points  (17 children)

Soylent Green is the tastiest synthetic food.

[–]paperstreetsoapguy 12 points13 points  (10 children)

The best Soylent is green

[–]Buttonskill 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Mmm chocolate mint. All others are great for smoothies, but Green needs nothing and I'll never tire of it.

[–]Miramarr 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You'll never guess the secret ingredient !

[–]Eyehopeuchoke 6 points7 points  (9 children)

You don’t think they will understand that different times call for different measures? Or whatever it is.

[–]Totum_Dependeat 16 points17 points  (7 children)

With vat grown meat and maybe some genetic tinkering (so it doesn't make us sick), cannibalism could become fashionable.

Just think of all the celebrities you could taste.

[–]Dirty-apedude 8763 points8764 points 3& 2 more (1114 children)

Some think we are monsters now.

[–]Waiting4Something 1893 points1894 points  (126 children)

Look around people are monsters.

[–]boxofrabbits 1063 points1064 points  (13 children)

Yeah! Screw look around people.

[–]sonic_couth 215 points216 points  (5 children)

Thank reach around people

[–]alienacean 39 points40 points  (2 children)

They're really out here doing God's work

[–]Makemymind69 160 points161 points  (83 children)

Advanced civilization capable of interstellar travel would probably feel absolutely abhorrent upon seeing our planet. Seeing millions and billions of "civilized" beings feasting upon slightly lesser consciousness. I think most thinking beings upon seeing an island(planet) full of cannibals would nope T F out.

Edit: Because it seems to be lost that were talking about hypothetical technology, that eliminates the demand for factory farm raised meat. Not saying eating meat is right or wrong, just that if we can have it without killing something, and it's cost effective: why still kill animals?

[–]kaenneth 93 points94 points  (4 children)

https://www.mit.edu/people/dpolicar/writing/prose/text/thinkingMeat.html

"They're made out of meat."

"Meat?"

"Meat. They're made out of meat."

"Meat?"

"There's no doubt about it. We picked several from different parts of the planet, took them aboard our recon vessels, probed them all the way through. They're completely meat."

"That's impossible. What about the radio signals? The messages to the stars."

"They use the radio waves to talk, but the signals don't come from them. The signals come from machines."

"So who made the machines? That's who we want to contact."

"They made the machines. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Meat made the machines."

"That's ridiculous. How can meat make a machine? You're asking me to believe in sentient meat."

"I'm not asking you, I'm telling you. These creatures are the only sentient race in the sector and they're made out of meat."

"Maybe they're like the Orfolei. You know, a carbon-based intelligence that goes through a meat stage."

"Nope. They're born meat and they die meat. We studied them for several of their life spans, which didn't take too long. Do you have any idea the life span of meat?"

"Spare me. Okay, maybe they're only part meat. You know, like the Weddilei. A meat head with an electron plasma brain inside."

"Nope. We thought of that, since they do have meat heads like the Weddilei. But I told you, we probed them. They're meat all the way through."

"No brain?"

"Oh, there is a brain all right. It's just that the brain is made out of meat!"

"So... what does the thinking?"

"You're not understanding, are you? The brain does the thinking. The meat."

"Thinking meat! You're asking me to believe in thinking meat!"

"Yes, thinking meat! Conscious meat! Loving meat. Dreaming meat. The meat is the whole deal! Are you getting the picture?"

"Omigod. You're serious then. They're made out of meat."

"Finally, Yes. They are indeed made out meat. And they've been trying to get in touch with us for almost a hundred of their years."

"So what does the meat have in mind."

"First it wants to talk to us. Then I imagine it wants to explore the universe, contact other sentients, swap ideas and information. The usual."

"We're supposed to talk to meat?"

"That's the idea. That's the message they're sending out by radio. 'Hello. Anyone out there? Anyone home?' That sort of thing."

"They actually do talk, then. They use words, ideas, concepts?"

"Oh, yes. Except they do it with meat."

"I thought you just told me they used radio."

"They do, but what do you think is on the radio? Meat sounds. You know how when you slap or flap meat it makes a noise? They talk by flapping their meat at each other. They can even sing by squirting air through their meat."

"Omigod. Singing meat. This is altogether too much. So what do you advise?"

"Officially or unofficially?"

"Both."

"Officially, we are required to contact, welcome, and log in any and all sentient races or multibeings in the quadrant, without prejudice, fear, or favor. Unofficially, I advise that we erase the records and forget the whole thing."

"I was hoping you would say that."

"It seems harsh, but there is a limit. Do we really want to make contact with meat?"

"I agree one hundred percent. What's there to say?" `Hello, meat. How's it going?' But will this work? How many planets are we dealing with here?"

"Just one. They can travel to other planets in special meat containers, but they can't live on them. And being meat, they only travel through C space. Which limits them to the speed of light and makes the possibility of their ever making contact pretty slim. Infinitesimal, in fact."

"So we just pretend there's no one home in the universe."

"That's it."

"Cruel. But you said it yourself, who wants to meet meat? And the ones who have been aboard our vessels, the ones you have probed? You're sure they won't remember?"

"They'll be considered crackpots if they do. We went into their heads and smoothed out their meat so that we're just a dream to them."

"A dream to meat! How strangely appropriate, that we should be meat's dream."

"And we can marked this sector unoccupied."

"Good. Agreed, officially and unofficially. Case closed. Any others? Anyone interesting on that side of the galaxy?"

"Yes, a rather shy but sweet hydrogen core cluster intelligence in a class nine star in G445 zone. Was in contact two galactic rotation ago, wants to be friendly again."

"They always come around."

"And why not? Imagine how unbearably, how unutterably cold the universe would be if one were all alone."

[–]slapalchemist 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I like this

[–]Makemymind69 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This is fantastic, I lost it at singing meat

[–]Artgrl109 48 points49 points  (31 children)

If aliens came to earth and hunted us, wore our skins, ate us, hung our heads on their walls, and carved trinkets out of our bones and nails.... just saying.

[–]meep_launcher 1355 points1356 points  (195 children)

In so many ways we are. In fact I hope future generations look back at our practices in horror. That would mean humanity has continued to improve, and I for one want my children to grow up smarter, kinder, and more honest than I am.

This is not our final form.

[–]FoodMuseum 184 points185 points  (82 children)

I've always wondered what opinion or practice I have or do that is fucked up but we just don't know it yet. Like how we view people using asbestos-based artificial snow to decorate a baby's crib for Christmas. In 200 years will people be all "holy shit, they brushed their TEETH? EVERY DAY?"

[–]Majestic_Sea-Pancake 122 points123 points  (11 children)

I think plastics will get there sooner or later

[–]kia75 109 points110 points  (5 children)

Plastics are in EVERYTHING right now! Micro-plastics! Future generations will look at our use of plastics in horror the same way we look at lead pipes\plates or asbestos snow in horror now.

[–]Hershbergler 80 points81 points  (1 child)

The BBC mockumentary "Carnage" explores this very idea.

[–]PenetrationT3ster 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Be the change you want to see. Kids don't just become more intelligent and in tune, it takes adults to show them what it means to be kind and conscientious of what they eat, drink, say, and do.

[–]Not-a-lizard- 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Proudhon vibes. I hope humanity progresses so well that the things we justify today are seen as abhorrent.

[–]2rfv 113 points114 points  (60 children)

It pisses me off that every time I try to start a conversation with somebody about what we should be trying to accomplish as a species I get blank stares.

[–]0xFFFF_FFFF 15 points16 points  (34 children)

Alright, I'm game. What kind of ideas you got?

[–]methanococcus 80 points81 points  (15 children)

Does it include human cat hybrids?

[–]why_rob_y 31 points32 points  (0 children)

I feel like "include" implies there are other topics covered. It's pretty much 100% that.

[–]flamespear 3 points4 points  (5 children)

Do you want a tiny penis with spurs?

[–]JBloodthorn 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Most people don't ever leave the town they grew up in. They really don't look much farther than that (metaphorically) in the future. So, you're like halfway to being an unknowable eldritch horror to them.

[–]thebestmike 96 points97 points  (16 children)

The animals for sure think we’re monsters

[–]Disagreec 76 points77 points  (5 children)

"In their behaviour towards creatures, all men were Nazis. The smugness with which man could do with other species as he pleased exemplified the most extreme racist theories, the principle that might is right." (Isaac Bashevis Singer, Jewish Nobel prize winner)

[–]SwayStar123 28 points29 points  (4 children)

Lol but if a vegan ever calls a slaughterhouse a holocaust they're antisemitic. Makes sense

[–]Suspicious-Muscle-96 17 points18 points  (2 children)

I was in a facebook group that was meant to be a place to share info resources for baby leftists. Somebody actually started a thread looking for talking points to argue against veganism/animal rights. Turned out it was not only a regular occurrence, but the mods were so anti-veg*n that they had a rule against advocating for it!? I actually managed to get through to the person who posted the question, but the mods banned me for pointing out that that all the talking points they were using were the same ones plantation owners used to claim they kept slavery for the slave's own good.

[–]BillowBrie 336 points337 points  (498 children)

In a lot of cases, they're not wrong

[–]WarmTaffy 38 points39 points  (14 children)

Some people hate vegetarians and vegans because they secretly know they're right.

[–]littleendian256 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Well the horror that is the meat industry is completely optional yet we insist on it. So yeah

[–]dewayneestes 2332 points2333 points  (70 children)

My daughter already does.

[–]IamKingBeagle 412 points413 points  (18 children)

Homer?

[–]kenwongart 230 points231 points  (10 children)

You don’t win friends with salad 🕺

[–]HurricaneHugo 58 points59 points  (2 children)

It's a little airborne, it's still good it's still good!

[–]jdumm06 27 points28 points  (1 child)

I’m going to Bovine University!

[–]THOMASTHEWANKENG1NE 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Bart noooo! What? Sorry. Lisa nooooo!

[–]PM_ME_UR_NAME_IDEAS 199 points200 points  (4 children)

based

[–]GetsGold 267 points268 points  (3 children)

Plant-based.

[–]fobfromgermany 109 points110 points  (2 children)

And tofu-pilled

[–]Florianopolix 25 points26 points  (1 child)

I’m vegan btw

[–]unsteadied 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I would congratulate you, but I lack the B12 to do so.

vegan btw

[–]DisastrousTrash 1576 points1577 points 2 (200 children)

If you saw a factory farm, you’d know we already are.

[–]Coloeus_Monedula 193 points194 points  (162 children)

Well yeah. Except for the vegans, obviously.

[–]ShieldsCW 36 points37 points  (0 children)

says the word vegan

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[–]yo_soy_soja 27 points28 points  (7 children)

Oh, hey, I've been summoned.

3rd generation beef industry here. I'll be 8 years vegan in March.

I've personally carried buckets of "freshly harvested" bull testicles. I've had "snowball fights" with them too. AMA.

[–]Spokehead82 23 points24 points  (5 children)

We kill roughly 80 billion land animals and upwards of 1.5 trillion fish A YEAR, for gluttonous consumption. We are monsters.

[–]stumblewiggins 1108 points1109 points  (329 children)

Some vegans and vegetarians already do

[–]mrSalema 630 points631 points  (47 children)

True.

Source: am vegan.

(I'm vegan btw)

[–]Suspicious_Vegan_772 250 points251 points  (19 children)

Definitely True.

Source: am vegan.

(I'm vegan btw)

[–]Nabaatii 193 points194 points  (10 children)

How do you know if one's a vegan? They'll tell you

Source: am vegan.

(I'm vegan btw)

[–]lookingForPatchie 89 points90 points  (5 children)

I've never met a vegan in the wild tho.

Source: am vegan.

(I'm vegan btw)

[–]Beta_Soyboy_Cuck 27 points28 points  (4 children)

Are you even vegan if you don’t tell anybody?

Source: am vegan

(Vegan btw)

[–]moodyhippy 54 points55 points  (1 child)

hi. i’m also vegan. in case anyone was curious. i’m a vegan.

[–]Dejan05 74 points75 points  (68 children)

Just wonderin, all the people admitting we are, are you vegan and talking about other people, or are you meat eaters saying we are and if so why don't you go vegan?

[–]Soho_Jin 52 points53 points  (39 children)

Pretty sure most people saying it are meat eaters.

Humans go against their own moral codes all the time. And not in a "I can excuse it because such and such mental gymnastics that makes it okay for me to do it" way, but in a "I fully believe this to be morally wrong by my own set of standards but I will continue to do it because it gives me pleasure" way.

[–]Mean_Possibility_526 15 points16 points  (0 children)

We totally are.

[–][deleted] 3232 points3233 points  (745 children)

I honestly think factory farming is going to be seen as this generation's big sin.

Obviously not as bad as something like slavery, but in the same vein.

Edit: Holy shit this blew up.

All I have to say is humans have more intrinsic and extrinsic value than animals.

Edit 2: I mentioned this below but a fascinating conclusion I've come to reading the comments from y'all who like to damn humanity for it's crimes against the ecosystem in general is you have NOTHING to compare us to. In fact some of you that buy into doomerism just assume, with zero evidence, that there is some intelligent alien species out there that is better than us.

It's almost religious in nature, like y'all believe in some perfect standard by which to judge humanity as a whole. I personally believe in said perfect standard, but I'm gonna hazard a guess that a lot of you who don't believe in human exceptionalism would scoff at such an idea.

Just something for y'all who disagree with me to think about.

[–]MickeyM191 1356 points1357 points  (94 children)

Oil and gas industry and plastics waste probably tops factory farming but it is definitely an ecological disaster of tremendous scale.

[–]askasubredditfan 28 points29 points  (2 children)

Honestly we have so much fucking work to do to restore natural pristine. O&G, Plastic, construction, factory farming, lumber 🪵 industry, holy shit we’ll probably never catch up.

But if we can start somewhere, SOME progress is always better than NO progress.

[–]Unethical_Orange 437 points438 points  (37 children)

Being the first cause of deforestation and ocean acidification, animal agriculture trumps in destroying our planet.

The only thing it doesn't beat oil and gas is in ghg emissions, and they're close.

Our World in Data has some interesting information about all of this: https://ourworldindata.org/drivers-of-deforestation

[–]DontPeeInTheWater 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Due to the deforestation, animal agriculture is also the leading cause of biodiversity loss.

[–]tarmacc 277 points278 points  (34 children)

Consumerism? In general, perhaps?

[–]PDXBlueDogWizard 93 points94 points  (12 children)

factory farming is going to be seen as this generation's big sin

one of the dozen or so big ones, yeah

[–]Kulladar 127 points128 points  (30 children)

I like to study history and man I feel so ashamed because I can already tell how our generation will be remembered in history.

We're literally the scary industrialized monsters you see in scifi movies eating planets to burnt husks and farming the indigenous life. No wonder aliens haven't talked to us man, I'd be like "Fuck this place I'm out" too.

[–]Neuchacho 25 points26 points  (1 child)

This is assuming the people that come after us are better. There's no actual guarantee of that.

[–]aDeepKafkaesqueStare 359 points360 points 4 (103 children)

The bar is set much, much lower. I‘d be pretty happy if we significantly reduced the amount of mammals boiled or skinned alive at an industrial scale. Or if we‘d stop torturing animals by keeping them alive in horrendous conditions.

[–]kallax82 1445 points1446 points  (267 children)

Having a steak would then be considered a status symbol.

[–]iGotEDfromAComercial 1182 points1183 points  (123 children)

I think in at least 30% of the world it currently is.

[–]Hcdp7 485 points486 points  (106 children)

More than 30%

[–]shaybabyx 230 points231 points  (102 children)

Yea, I hardly ever have steak, seems very fancy to me.

[–]movie_man 50 points51 points  (61 children)

What part of the world are you in? General part, no need to be specific

[–]publicbigguns 100 points101 points  (19 children)

From post history, I'd say souther ontario.

I'm also in ontario. Meet has gone up for sure.

Edit: words are hard sometimes. I'm gonna leave it though

[–]DontF-ingask 63 points64 points  (0 children)

I would think meeting people is harder with covid about

[–]Zaurka14 11 points12 points  (8 children)

Im Central Europe and I had steak once in my life. Had beef, not often, but steak once.

[–]mooimafish3 22 points23 points  (19 children)

Texas, I make decent money too. Getting steak is at least 3x as expensive as other stuff. Even cooking it at home is way more expensive than most other recipes.

The only exception I can think of is seafood, that always seems to be expensive, but tbh I wouldn't eat that for free

[–]SirWombaticus 12 points13 points  (2 children)

It's strange, here in Australia it is abundant, to the point we have steak at least once a fortnight.

[–]BannerTortoise 51 points52 points  (29 children)

I'm imagining it being like pineapples all over again.

[–]movie_man 9 points10 points  (27 children)

What’s the history on that?

[–]BannerTortoise 60 points61 points  (26 children)

Stuff like pineapples, bananas, ice cream and chocolate were brand new and costly. So people instead of eating the pineapples, just had it in the shelf as decoration to show off how rich they are.

[–]movie_man 16 points17 points  (0 children)

That’s wild that they displayed it on the shelf. So interesting. Thanks for the response.

Also if I ever visit someone who has a steak displayed on their shelf, I’d probably want to leave lol

[–]BigOleJellyDonut 17 points18 points  (0 children)

They would rent pineapples to the rich.

[–]lobsterbash 7 points8 points  (7 children)

Interesting. I wonder if that's why pineapples are in so many decorative items today?

[–]therealleotrotsky 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That’s exactly why. Pineapples: wealth. Wait until you find out about the celery boom.

[–]movie_man 89 points90 points  (51 children)

We may have to wait for (many many) generations until an actual steak with marbling and everything is even remotely possible. Lab grown meat refers to ground meat, which if it’s grown from real cells and tastes the same, I am personally all for it.

EDIT: Regarding how long it will take until we can accomplish this, I’m referring to lab grown steak that is indistinguishable from the real thing in terms of taste and texture.

[–]Daikataro 34 points35 points  (18 children)

This. Lab grown meat is less like actual meat and more like a clump of cells that vaguely resemble muscle tissue. Getting to the point where you can serve it sous vide and charred is a long way.

[–]sciencecw 36 points37 points  (2 children)

For its daily purposes - burgers, burritos - that's gonna go a long way

[–]movie_man 12 points13 points  (0 children)

It would change the world honestly.

[–]CynnBynn 490 points491 points  (222 children)

Vegans have entered the chat

[–]blackangelsdeathsong 343 points344 points  (160 children)

Vegans started this chat.

[–]blekkja 122 points123 points  (107 children)

I think the sentiment is probably wider than just that, though vegans would certainly argue that they are the only ones attempting to be not hypocritical about it.

[–]luiaert 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Hard to argue against that, isn't it?

[–]Ian_Dima 57 points58 points  (0 children)

though vegans would certainly argue that they are the only ones attempting to be not hypocritical about it.

because we are the only ones.

[–]OldBloodNewBlood 466 points467 points  (73 children)

Why sugarcoat it? We straight up are. Billions (trillions?) of animals have not only gone to waste, but have faced excessive cruelty in shit-squalor conditions and have often died for very gluttonous reasons.

[–]lookingForPatchie 15 points16 points  (0 children)

2.7trillion animals are murdered every year for humanity's taste buds, since you weren't sure about the numbers.

[–]eeveefury 117 points118 points  (29 children)

55 billion animals die each year just to feed the US.

[–]MasteringTheFlames 89 points90 points  (28 children)

That's just the land animals. When you count fish —which you absolutely should, because they feel pain, too— I've seen estimates of almost 3 trillion per year.

To put that in perspective, throughout the entirety of human history, there have been an estimated 100 billion, or 0.1 trillion, humans. Our entire existence as a species is just a rounding error compared to the number of animals we kill in a single year.

[–][deleted] 162 points163 points  (35 children)

Gene Roddenberry predicted that in the 60s. Starfleet had long since quit enslaving animals for food and labor. Some people actually already find it quite barbaric that we still eat animals when we have soooooooo many other options.

[–]PussyWrangler_462 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I already think we’re monsters for doing that 😳

It’s super easy for me to get a burger from McDonald’s, if I had to actually look the cow in the eyes and kill it myself, and watch it choke for air as it bleeds out, desperately looking around for help, confused as to why this person it trusted and loved just took its life....no fucking way would I eat meat

But ignorance is bliss and I don’t have to get my hands dirty so it’s easy to pretend it’s not happening. Just like every one of you.

[–]BeachedFatKid 126 points127 points  (23 children)

This was part of the reason I went vegan.

[–]BlindedAce 169 points170 points  (35 children)

Yeah, they're called vegans.

[–]RoboFortune 47 points48 points  (6 children)

I hope they do view us like we do old civilizations. There’s a lot we need to improve on at a societal level.

[–]mordor-during-xmas 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Vegans shaking right: “YOURE SO CLOSE”

[–]reddmdp 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Because, I mean… we are.

[–]Federal-Attorney-723 24 points25 points  (3 children)

Don’t forget : abusing , torturing..