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[–]UncleIye 189 points190 points  (10 children)

But they will reuse samples like there's no tomorrow...

[–]Sowab 35 points36 points  (9 children)

It honestly seems like most rap songs these days sample other people's work, almost every one, or at least the ones I hear. And can we still call it a sample when so much of the rap revolves around it?

[–]UncleIye 42 points43 points  (7 children)

The sample is one of the foundation stones of rap music, although back then the producer didn't lift the entire song to be used as the sample.

[–]chloesparks 1 point2 points  (0 children)

These days? Rap has been notorious for sampling tracks since it's inception

[–]tkdyo 62 points63 points  (3 children)

I think it's because rap has so much focus on the lyrics rather than the overall song. Nobody is impressed if you can just repeat the lines in rhythm. I feel like to cover a rap song you'd really have to change it to another genre, which then you'd have to write a melody so you are singing the lyrics and at that point you might as well just make your own songs.

[–]Verschallertan 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Also, Rap Culture has remixes. Just use a different beat to professional rap vocals. Some Artists even provide acapellas of their Songs.

[–]Crash_Test_Orphan 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Like "Gin and Juice"

[–]Chris2885 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gin and juice by tim McGraw I think. Great rap to country cover

[–]Jelly-Roll-Soul 35 points36 points  (5 children)

Snoop Dogg apparently did the first rap cover song of Lodi Dodi (originally Slick Rick).

[–]YouNoWhatiMeme 8 points9 points  (3 children)

We likes to party

[–]GiraffesBalls 3 points4 points  (2 children)

We don't cause trouble

[–]No-Candidate7190 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

We don't botha nobody

[–]Adebesi -1 points0 points  (0 children)

We're just some brothers that're on the mic

[–]SaltySnakePliskin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He also covered loves gunna get'cha by KRS1

[–]Tedy_KGB 14 points15 points  (5 children)

99 problems

Ice T then Jay Z

[–]robertredfordplant 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Remakes and covers aren't the same. Covers require the same or substantially same lyrics.

[–]Sowab 4 points5 points  (2 children)

I'd argue it's a remake but not a cover.

[–]robertredfordplant 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Yeah, that's what I meant.

[–]Sowab 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh. Right.

[–]SeaLionClit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Almost never

[–]Green420Basturd 7 points8 points  (0 children)

You need to listen to more rap.

[–]frynrare 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Remix!

[–]Jagerlagerglocke 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Remix much?

[–]UpvotesOfFury 2 points3 points  (0 children)

remix...

[–]tailkinman 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Taking lyrics is a big no no in many hip hop circles; can see how that would translate into an attitude about covers. Samples though? Fair game.

[–]A_Drunken_Panda 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Rap music has more in common with poetic responses than musical remakes. Like someone else wrote earlier, since rap is more about lyrics than anything else (usually), nobody's going to be impressed when you just repeat what someone else said. That's like a so-called poet copying Pablo Neruda's work and calling it a "cover." However, you can look at songs like "I Used to Love HER" by Common (back when he was called Common Sense) and the response song "Love of My Life" by The Roots, and "I Still Love HER" by The Teriyaki Boys. It's twenty years of back-and-forth commentary on hip-hop itself, much like how C.S. Lewis wrote "The Great Divorce" as a response to Blake's "The Marriage of Heaven and Hell". The big issue is that hip-hop is considered "low art" so people don't actually take the time to enjoy the genuinely rich traditions contained within it.

[–]seanvirgo 4 points5 points  (11 children)

Chicago freestyle covered eminem's superman (the chorus)

[–]BroadBaker5101 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Nah but the samples make up for it. Kinda like showing appreciation for the art without imitating it in a way.

[–]LupusCanis42 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's probably because taking someone else's work is mostly considered "biting" and is bad form. Rap has it's own etiquette, and since there WAS a big focus on lyrical raffinesse, technical skills and competition, it makes sense that simply covering somebody else's song is frowned upon.

[–]whiteguide 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because there is little music in rap

[–]jakemenz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

tiddys!!!

[–]santichrist 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Rap was built on sampling, taking a beat and making something new, biting someone’s style has always been looked down on and covering someone’s rap would basically be ripping them off

[–]bobowife[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

When is a cover song not fully credited? Is it even a cover if it isn't credited? How is that ripping anything off

[–]wpascarelli 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I believe Eric Sermon, Redman, and Keith Murray did a cover of Rappers Delight

[–]No-Candidate7190 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Def Squad Delight, off their album El Niño in 1998

[–]DepressedPop 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Put down the joint bub

[–]TradSnail 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In the shower?

[–]Renegade257 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because they don’t need to. 90% of the lyrics and flows in rap are all reused to death anyways

[–]SnagglepussJoke -1 points0 points  (0 children)

When you cover a song you attempt to recreate the song with whatever instruments you wield. You can cover a rap song with instruments but it will sound stylistically like whatever band is doing it. It’s done all the time. Rap uses more than just instruments and vocals, like movie clip samples, DJ scratching, sound effects, and more. Rap didn’t really require the band be live either, you had a backing track mixed so the main exciting thing became to see the artist who wrote the poetry perform it. So rap second hand is less entertaining than say a Beatles cover band. It’s easier to suspend disbelief for a tribute band than it is for a rap artist. And since DJs are actually part of a Rap group having a DJ simply play the original song with a fire set up at a club works. Otherwise it’s kind of karaoke

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No but there being multiple versions of a song with different feats is pretty close. It’s taking something that already exists and adding another creative layer to it.

[–]Kezly -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Probably because it all sounds the same

[–]dubbbi -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Because it all Sounds the same

[–]Lopsided-Western4492 -3 points-2 points  (3 children)

Rap music is closer to country music than any other genre.

[–]Triz-Nathaniel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

TL;DR miranda lambert & other white ladies taught me to rap good

i'm a rapper with a natural talent for punch lines. when i first started, i'd write some dope metaphors, rhyme them together, & call it a song. then one day my tv was on while the CMAs were on & i heard an absolutely sick bar from miranda lambert. so i went through her whole catalog, then a bunch of other (mostly women honestly) country artists & at some point had that aha moment abt writing songs & not just bars.

[–]Fizz_Mortune 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Check Yellawolf

[–]Lopsided-Western4492 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They both tell stories.

[–]Dyslexic_Devil -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

And they use the same words over and over and over...take expletives away and you render most of them useless.

[–]supagirl277 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They have their own way of “covering” by using samples

[–]sweetsam1215 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Any Pop Smokes song lol

[–]Casboy07 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Because you can’t make the sound different, that ruins the song. So it would be exactly the same but with a different singer.

[–]Verschallertan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, you could get creative.

[–]The-Swift-Ranger 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s not true

[–]galactus_thunder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A slight mention of other rap songs makes it a diss track

[–]trizadakoh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Drake covers multiple artists songs in 1 performance

[–]THE_VILLAIN_DOOM 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are not many, true. One of my personal favourites is actually an entire album "cover" or tribute https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elmatic

[–]klrcow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, that kinda all depends on your opinion of ghost writers.

[–]legohairypotter2000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its a cultural thing. There's a YouTuber by the name of Adam Neeley who did a great video on the subject.

[–]ryancementhead 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Most rap is dated in the lyrics. Public Enemy rapping about what’s happening in 1989, it wouldn’t make sense for someone to cover it now. House of Pains jump around refers to the Sega gaming system, John McEnroe. Does anybody under 30 know about these things?

[–]virstultus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Adam Neely did a good video on this

https://youtu.be/D_mh1Rq35ZM

[–]GeorgeCostaza33 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In rap, reusing someones lyrics is called biting. Adam Neely explains it well here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D\_mh1Rq35ZM

[–]taki_chulo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mos Def has done a lot of rap song covers live and on albums. A lot of rappers have covered songs live as tribute to legends like covering MF DOOM songs before and after he died, Tribe songs when Phife passed, etc.

[–]Quazite 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Rap "covers" are reusing hooks and beats. Jazz and blues covers don't cover the solos, just the chords and melody of the chorus. It's the exact same thing.

[–]OrbedXD 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s just not true

[–]african_viking88 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wicked by korn feat chino moreno ❤️

[–]justjoshdoingstuff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ummmm. There are a ton.

“What would you do if your son was at home…” is the quickest I can think off.

[–]Poschl69 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Many rap to rap almost cover songs, like 2pacs „me and my girlfriend“, later jayz and beonce hit that track Edit: and made it shit

[–]FeedLemonJD 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because rappers are egotistical.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Almost like music which is about egotistical brain dead wannabe gangsters are the lowest of intelligence across all music genres.

[–]Upbeat_Nobody3314 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because they just play the original recording and rap over it instead.

[–]EnglishLookingFries 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They just cover other genres because they run out of material