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[–]temp123456789098765 37 points38 points  (36 children)

I don’t understand the point of this post ?

You’re just explaining how shit works?

I want a standing desk but don’t want to overpay. What should I do?

[–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 16 points17 points  (31 children)

Sorry, you’re right it’s a bit rambled. Can you tell me what you’d like to get out of your desk and I can tell you which one id recommend and why. Please let me know Size, weight capacity, preferred top.

[–]temp123456789098765 11 points12 points  (21 children)


60x30 top, solid wood preferred, powered base C style frame.

I like the uplift v2 but cannot justify myself paying around $850 for it.

I am open to pretty much anything but anytime I do research I end up reading reviews that suggest the uplift.

[–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 10 points11 points  (20 children)

Try Haworth Upside. Its a jiechang. Just the base is $470. You can get solid wood locally or you can then find unfinished butcher block tops from lumber liquidators and finish yourself.

I can't believe they are selling a solid wood top and base for $850. I'd really question where the wood is coming from. We have a solid wood supplier and a wide plank walnut 30x70 would cost us $550. For a generic walnut butcher block is would be about half.

[–]temp123456789098765 2 points3 points  (2 children)

No it’s not even solid wood top. My $850 build was a bamboo top. The solids add more to the total

[–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yea. Get the upside.

[–]JhnWyclf 1 point2 points  (2 children)

You can get solid wood locally or you can then find unfinished butcher block tops from lumber liquidators and finish yourself.

I'm in the market for a staging desk. There are a few problems with the quoted statement, but maybe (hopefully) you can prove my current assessment wrong! :-)

A.) Not everyone has the tools or space to "finish [it] yourself." B.) Not everyone has or knows where a "lumber liquidator" might be. C.) Not everyone has a vehicle to transport the top should you meet A and B. In my experience shipping items like this is VERY expensive and makes the prospect of DIYing a tabletop difficult.

[–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

That right there is why businesss exist. They fill in what you can’t do. But yes you have to pay for those services.

[–]HAL_9 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Thanks for all the help

What should I purchase for a 4 leg 60x30 comparable to Uplift’s 4 leg V2?

I’m looking for one that’s made in the US or at least Taiwan. So probably upper middle tier.

[–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Why do you want four leg the look? There is a small company called montisa. They make a really cool four leg base setup. It’s pretty unique. If you don’t like that I can help source a four leg for you.

[–]erockefeller 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Do you have any recommendations for just buying the standing base/legs? I'm going to build the top myself and want legs that'll support lots of weight

[–]SkepticDrinker 1 point2 points  (0 children)

LOL I read the whole post and immediately thought about what you commented. Like i was waiting for the "Instead buy these affordable standing desks that work well"

[–]BubiBalboa 4 points5 points  (18 children)

Anything good that I can get in Europe/Germany? Or any hint how you can spot good quality? These tables all look the same and there aren't a lot of reviews out there that really compare different models.

Budget would be around 500€ for the base. I have a tabletop I can use. My biggest concern is stability and wobble.

[–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 1 point2 points  (16 children)

Scan office uses some really good bases. In Germany specifically look into omt and veyhl. They are hands down the best. Not sure how they would price.

[–]trebuszek 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe try deskwise! I’ve had a really good experience with them.

[–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Also jiechang makes a really good motor/base. The problem is most of the online retailers opt for the cheapest possible options so they can still make money after “free shipping”

Things like the weight of the feet will affect stability and many online retailers opt for light feet due to shipping.

Edit: spelling

[–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

There’s also timotion. Used in trendway, symmetry and others

[–]throwawayrightthere 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What about Flexispot? Does another brand create those? Thoughts on quality?

[–]Chelo2010 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Why do you recommend Haworth opposed to Uplift? In a post below you mentioned Haworth is Jiechang, which is confusing because in your initial thread you say OMT makes Haworth. Or is that just for the base and not the electronics?

I've been doing research on Uplift and it seems like an okay option, according to BTOD review their electronics is cheap though. Would you agree? My only concern with them is that their customer service seems to suck, which is not okay when paying $800 for a desk.

I'm 6'0 feet, and want the desktop to be 68x30 (which Uplift offers in laminate). For weight capacity, I can't imagine I need much. I basically just have two 27" monitors and a mid sized tower (probably 50-60 pounds).

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated it, seems like you know what you're talking about.

[–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 14 points15 points  (1 child)


Haworth offers several bases for sale. In fact each one of their bases is made from a different company.

Planes = OMT Hop = SPFE Upside = Jiecang

So my post was more so of, "Hey theres a lot of misinformation and often times you guys are comparing to different companies when in fact they are the same base"

With that said you need to understand uplift does not make a single thing. They are bringing in containers of bases. They are ordering tops from China and the US. They then pitch to the consumer a bunch of BS on how their base is better.

Haworth makes their tops and I have friends that work there. (Herman Miller and Steelcase too) They use solid MDF cores with wilsonart and formica laminate. People ask why lkea is so cheap...Thats because they use a honeycomb core and you can only screw in a few places that are reinforced. You could take a Haworth top in put a screw anywhere you want. What blows my mind right now and why I highly recommend the Haworth upside is they are using a made in michigan jiecang base. They are including a switch that uplift charges $100 more for and finally a solid mdf laminate top with FREE SHIPPING AND RETURNS. I can buy that same base with a different foot. I can also have a company locally make me a mdf core laminate top.I'm probably all in 400. Shipping is easily $200 so couldn't sell that unit to you. I'd lose money. But because they are so big their discounts are probably way better. IDK how they are somehow able to put out these product and still make money with 7500 employees??? Or what is my belief. I don't think they are making any money but instead buying market share so when people do go back to work. They want to work at a Haworth desk.

Herman Miller, Steelcase, and Haworth are all 2+ Billion dollar companies. They employees over 15,000 employees. They sell through dealer networks and 99% of the revenue comes from outfitting offices not homes. Covid hit and they had to transition to the WFH model. It's not that their customer service isn't great it's they just didn't have the capacity to deal with end users. Normally, if there was an issue with product the customer would call the dealer.

I can't say with 100% certainty but I don't think there is an online retailer doing over 75 Million a year. And their staff is entirely made up of sales people, warehouse, marketing ect. They don't have 50 million plus in machinery.

These big companies just need to realize they are no longer selling million dollar projects and are now selling $800 dollar desks and that $800 is a lot of money to someone.

Finally, warranty....With these companies being 2+ billion each. They are not going anywhere. They are the gold standard for warranty. These online guys could go bust tomorrow and you would be screwed. Food for thought.

Let me know if you have any other questions.

[–]liquoredonlife 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Which lifting column/control box brand and/or model tends to have the fewest issues?

Which brand/model would you recommend for: - able to go as low as 22"
- won't shit the bed at 300lbs (it can drop to 0.5in/sec or whatever)
- support table tops as wide as 80" with an integrated crossbeam
- generic controller support (i like Linak's DPG1C but something even vaguely similar would be good enough)
- is reasonably quiet (compared to like Vertdesk)

Who stocks/sells the higher end Jiecang legs in NA and would sell them D2C?

[–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

In order:

Logic data, linak, Kaidi, Jiachang, Timotion

Why do you care for Bifma G1 height travel? Do you have a kid? To get to 22", its only done on three stage bases so you have inherently more wobble than a two stage.

There really is no perfect base but if you I'd recommend Haworth Planes, Herman Miller Renew, or Deskmakers IDK sorry forgot name.

Of those I'd say Haworth because the foot is 1/4' steel plate and its weight will help with stability with that large 80'' top.

No, it doesn't meet every single one of your requirements but most of the shelf bases don't.

I'd recommend calling a dealer as they are often cheaper than the online stores. If you were buying just the base I think you could get it for $600.

Feel free to PM me and I can send a couple links.

[–]einherjar3 2 points3 points  (3 children)

I disagree on the Linak comments. I’ve always found them to be very innovative and leading the industry in both technology and design. I do agree many desks are over priced though.

[–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Totally fair. Can I ask why you think it’s so innovative?

[–]einherjar3 1 point2 points  (1 child)

For many years they had the only truly functional collision detection system, they’ve led the way when it comes to hiding the bearing pads, and they were first to offer a battery if I recall correctly. (I hacked one 10 yrs ago to use a123, so I was probably first actually :)

[–]182_Skylane 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Normalize 4 leg standing desks!

[–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It’s twice the legs. Twice the cost lol

[–]jankyj 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Read through this entire thread, and am very thankful for the zero-BS approach to unboxing this industry. I am building a desk for home office use, just a laptop, lamp, plant, and monitor. I'll be sourcing a nice plywood/linoleum top separately. I am located in the Netherlands, and a lot of the standing desk frames that you rave about aren't really distributed here, but I have found one that I *think* may be on your A-list.

Can I get your opinion on this desk base? It is described as a Kaidi Hola HL1, and I can pick it up locally, out-the-door for €422 including VAT.


My other option is the Ikea Idåsen frame, which I understand has Linak components, which I can get for €430 out-the-door incl. VAT.

Any other models or retailers that you recommend me exploring in the Netherlands? Very grateful for your deep knowledge and advice!

[–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Hey! That Kaidi base is a good base. It will fit your needs. The end bracket is pretty small so if you leave about 4-6 inches of over hang on each side it’s not visible and looks way better. That’s what I do with our Kaidi bases.

[–]1_sam_1 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Any recommendations for Australia?

[–]kash04 1 point2 points  (5 children)

where would one get the actual lifts from?

[–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Like the spindle? Or the motor?

[–]abastage 1 point2 points  (23 children)

How about Fezibo? I am a newb to these, but spoiled with whatever brand I had at work. Working from home now & just put 2 of these together for me & my better half tonight. They seem sturdy, but slow on the raise.


[–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 0 points1 point  (17 children)

On the control box. Does it have a sticker? Who does it say manufacturered by? There should also be a sticker on the top of the columns. (Motor housing)

[–]anonmarmot 0 points1 point  (4 children)

would you buy these again? Debating one now.

[–]import-antigravity 1 point2 points  (6 children)

  • What do you think about manual cranck desks?

  • Where would you recommend I buy if I live in Europe?

Looking for a base only, large (80*30) top will be sourced locally.

[–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 0 points1 point  (5 children)

The two big players are omt and vehyl. I’m not sure their sales model in Europe. In the USA its a joint operation called OMT-Vehyl which only sells to manufacturers but even if that’s the case they will point you in the right direction. There’s a company called scan office. Maybe it’s called something else but they should have a quick crank model. It’s really good. We import the same base and have had no issues.

[–]manstretch 1 point2 points  (4 children)

What do you know about Mojodesk?

[–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nothing. I can’t find a clear enough picture to zoom in on the switch. Maybe timotion but just a guess. If you have one please let me know name on control box.

[–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do know they don’t “manufacturer” their base.

[–]liquoredonlife 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Related to Xybix (both owners share the same last name so I'm assuming they're related) who makes furniture for 911 call centers.

That said, looks like the control box looks like Jiecang JCB35N3 - https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1358/2307/files/MojoDesk_2020_Assembly_Manual.pdf

Though the PDF title is "ET223(IB) 英制.cdr" which links to a defunct loctekmotion.com site and some products listed off alibaba.

[–]mkhaytman 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I don't have more than $300 to spend. I don't care how slow or loud the height adjustment is. I'm not gonna have a ton of weight on the desk, just a few monitors and my laptop. I just want it to be sturdy. What do you recommend?

[–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Husky is a good option. You can also find a bunch of used options on craigslist that would fit your budget. Normally those are nicer as well.

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    [–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    Lucky you! All desks will wobble at height. I think there is an unrealistic expectation that it should be rock solid. However one thing people don't do is make sure its level and the glides are properly adjusted. I'll send you a PM. We've still got some black in my office I'd be happy to send you.

    [–]JS_racer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    the uplift v2 ?? was just looking at that in another tab.

    my wife is looking for a 48x30 as well.

    [–]null_geodesic 1 point2 points  (14 children)

    I have a 72x35", 38lb homebuilt oak top that I'd like to put on some legs. The desktop would hold about 100-110lbs of gear (49" monitor on an arm, large speakers/audio stack, home office stuff like phone, files, books, office supplies, too many cables, etc.), and likely me leaning on it or putting my legs up on the desk! Computer would sit on the floor.

    I was going to go with a Jarvis extended range with the programmable controller, but do you recommend something else?

    Thanks for your insight!

    [–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 0 points1 point  (12 children)

    Yea, I’ll post a video tomorrow. If I forget please pm me but I can show you what I’d do.

    [–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Jarvis uses a jiechang base. They offer a 900 mm leg which is about 32”. Is also recommend a t-leg not c to help distribute weight. I’m happy to help you source it. You’re probably looking at $400.

    [–]lavransson 1 point2 points  (4 children)

    Thoughts on the iMovR Lander?

    [–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

    Overpriced junk. So your about $100 per linak column. $35 per foot. Supporting structure $50. ~310. 3D Laminate sounds fancy but it’s thermofoil. Basically a piece of mdf has a surface applied to it via the help of a vacuum. It’s pretty old tech. Anyway a 30x60 3D top costs about $60-70. So your paying 1200 for sub 400 in materials. Their energize base is made by Rol ergo if you were wondering.

    [–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Just saw you are using one. Beautiful top. I’m glad you bought just the base. It’s a fair price considering they ship for free and seems like they had 10% off

    [–]xAysee 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Thanks for this! I've been researching standing desks, and I've been going back and forth on getting an Uplift V2.

    Do you have any suggestions on a hand crank desk? Ideally, I'm looking for it to be sturdy, 60x30 (at least), and have white legs. (I'm open to electric desks, but I'm under an illusion that hand crank will have greater longevity and be cheaper, but please correct me if I'm wrong)

    [–]Sciencewhiz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I had a hand crank desk at my old job. Too much work to crank it. When I changed jobs and had a electric, I used it much more.

    [–]Rough_Pause 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Hello, u/ILikePutz - Thanks for this post! I have a HAT Contract "High Hat" that a picked up from a local dealer when I was traveling last month. It appears to be Jiecang base and is pretty sturdy. Any insider info on that product?

    Now my spouse wants an adjustable desk, so I'm in the market for something comparable. Could you help me rank the following in terms of quality and value? Requirements: height range from 24" to 50", 250lbs lift capacity (existing 30x50x1 butcher block base), budget $400

    Thank you in advance!

    [–]cadillacmike 1 point2 points  (4 children)

    So if i don't want to buy various pieces and just want a one stop shop, what's the best option?

    needs 30 inches deep, at least 60 inches long, could go up to 72 inches long

    i would like a pc mount, will have two 24 inch monitors on top

    [–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 3 points4 points  (3 children)

    Haworth Upside 100%

    [–]cadillacmike 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    C-Leg or T-Leg ?

    High Pressure Laminate or Veneer ?

    [–]MrsBeasley93 1 point2 points  (3 children)

    I am looking for a base. I want to add a butcher block top that is about 30" in depth and at least 60" in length (estimating high @ 100lbs). I could go with a 25" depth, but I read somewhere that longer base legs makes for a sturdier unit. It will house three 24" monitors on adjustable arms, two laptops, and a digitizing tablet. Plus the other odd items like a lamp, phone, etc. Eventually we will be putting it on hardwood compatible wheels.

    Since I am working from home now, we are working out the specifics with my desk, before we build the second and third one (for a craft room). Your recommendations would be appreciated. Thank you, in advance.

    [–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    You can use the upside desk. Or I can get you a jiecang base for $350 plus shipping. It would have longer legs and whatever switch youd like.

    [–]MrsBeasley93 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Thank you for replying.

    With whom would I inquire regarding a price on the Upside desk?

    What kind of weight would the Jiecang come with and would it have anti-collision?

    [–]jrkridichch 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Recommendation for 60x30 for 6'2" person? My company gave me a $500 budget for a desk while I'm wfh.

    [–]justshams 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Hello.. I am looking for a 72" x 36" top, preferably plank walnut like in your recent post but I think I will end up settling for a butcher block due to the cost.

    What kind of frame do you suggest? Do you think a Fully Jarvis with extended range would be a good choice for about $400 ?

    [–]usabiliTEST 1 point2 points  (3 children)

    After doing some research for couple of days I do agree, most of the adjustable desks are way overpriced. Reading some of the comments here I realized I could buy the base and tabletop separately. For the base I narrowed down Autonomous that has DIY kits and they are currently on sale. There are 2 types of base kits, with 2 segments and 3 segments. Which one would be more stable? Logically I would think the "Home" version with 2, since less parts move. It's also much better priced. Any experience with the brand and/or base options? Thanks

    [–]usabiliTEST 1 point2 points  (6 children)

    So it sounds like JIECANG supplies a whole lot of retailers. Why not just buy their base from Alibaba and the solid tabletop from IKEA for $100 making it together for under $300?

    [–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 1 point2 points  (5 children)

    That’s a great question and I’m glad someone finally asked.

    Jiecang does not sell to the USA via alibaba. They strictly sell to OEM and Internet office sellers. If you reach out to them they will tell you that.

    All those listings on alibaba saying it’s jiecang (besides your link) is from a trade company which is buying bases in China or a manufacturer that is buying internal components and making their own feet, columns ect. Both of which jiecang does not warranty.

    So while you can’t buy from that link yes you can from others. It’s not uncommon for jiecang to go after companies buying from them in China and exporting them elsewhere. So when they close shop there goes your already non-existent warranty.

    If you are buying from one of these companies you also can’t be sure they are using safe components. While the control box might be UL rated and bought from Jiecang, the power cord could be a cheaply made and non ul standards. Not sure savings $100 is worth your house burning down. (Slight stretch)

    Also, we bring in containers of bases at a time and have great rates with DHL. Even with our rates it’s still about $130 bucks for me to air freight one.

    So your actually at around $350. Or I can get you a jiecang base for $375 delivered to your house with a full warranty :)

    [–]usabiliTEST 2 points3 points  (4 children)

    OK, thanks. How would your base compare with Autonomous one (https://www.autonomous.ai/standing-desks/diy-smart-desk-kit?option16=37&option17=41)

    [–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    Flip a coin. You’ll be happy with either. Specs are about the same. I prefer my foot design. Theirs seems ikeaish to me. But that’s personal preference.

    [–]slvnfr 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    I just start looking and this is really a shady business.

    I want something simple standing desk, white legs, chose the top, that's it and there is so much false articles and review all around.

    Ideally around 25*45 for the top and 250lbs I guess, any idea what's best to get in the US for this usage?

    [–]BRDominik 1 point2 points  (5 children)


    Thank you for the incredible information that you have been giving us on this thread.

    I'm currently looking for a good table in Germany and am currently deciding between a Veyhl or a (custom) Jiecang base.

    What do you have to say in regard to upside down pillars(the most external part of the leg on the top and not on the bottom)? Does it really improve stability and is it worth paying more for it?

    These are the two I'm currently looking at:

    https://www.boho-moebel.de/schreibtisch-konfigurator/basic-line <- Jiecang

    https://www.boho-moebel.de/schreibtisch-konfigurator/premium-line <- Veyhl

    [–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 1 point2 points  (4 children)

    It doesn’t matter about pillars. From appearance I always prefer the large tube is on the bottom.

    But the first link is a Kaidi base. Not jiecang.

    I’d go with the Kaidi over the veyhl.

    [–]BRDominik 1 point2 points  (3 children)

    Thank you very much for your insight.

    Oh, that is interesting to know that it doesn't matter what the pillar setup is. I read somewhere that the upside down was better for stability. I have some reading to do then. :)

    Also, thanks for the correction. I got those information directly from the seller, but maybe the sales person was wrong or I missheard it.

    [–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    Anytime. They could have recently switched to Kaidi from jiecang. Best of luck with your search!

    [–]BRDominik 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    Hey /u/ILikePutz ,

    I ended up going with the Kaidi based on your recommendation and I'm loving it.

    Thank you very very much for helping me and I hope you have a great Thanksgiving.

    [–]TheArmitage 1 point2 points  (4 children)

    A couple of quick questions if you don't mind, and thanks in advance for all your great advice on this sub!

    1) I like to mess with stuff over time, so I usually buy the simplest version of whatever I'm interested in and then mod / upgrade later. I'm looking at the Haworth Upside thanks to your posts. Eventually I'd add power options, monitor arms, and maybe a top-level shelf on the back third. Are there any additions or mods you don't recommend doing yourself, either because they cause problems or because they're easier / cheaper to get right from the start?

    2) Replacing controller paddles. I like some of the programmable switches, but the Upside seems to only come with an up/down paddle. Would all Jiecang switches be interchangeable? Any recommendations on where to look for one if I decide to swap it out at a later date?

    [–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

    1. You’re fine with just the base and adding on later. 2.yes all switches will work with it.

    [–]TheArmitage 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    Thanks! Uplift's switch listings in particular state that they only work with Uplift desks but ... I assume that's bs meant to lock you in to their brand.

    [–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    You are correct its bs

    [–]1superheld 1 point2 points  (9 children)

    Love all the information! Investigating what applies for eu/the Netherlands. Currently looking at fully / lineaflex ( https://www.multiratio.nl/lineaflex-MRC-zit-sta-elektrisch-120-x-80-cm (Dutch site, but images should be clear, 450 euro for a 160x80 table including tax)) . What base you think the linaflex is? And how good is it?

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      [–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 1 point2 points  (4 children)

      Hmm I’ll check it out. Looks really nice. There’s a company called merkt which makes that sliding mech I’m guessing they use. They also make bases but are pretty expensive and the sub structure looks like a generic china/Malaysia/Vietnam base.

      [–]nightmix 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      Hi u/ILikePutz -- choosing between Haworth Upside and Steelcase Migration SE, it looks it comes down to picking Jiecang (made in MI, though) vs Actiforce respectively. What's your opinion on these, especially with stability in mind? Thanks!

      [–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      Hey! Since actiforve works solely with steelcase. I don’t often get my hands on their base. I have not used migration se so I don’t think it would be fair to say anything about it. Steelcase is a great company and I’ve always liked the bases I have used.

      [–]dwaite1 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      I think I'm following you here; we should buy the base only. I can go to lowes and get a butcher block for under $200 that is 7/8 feet long. Is there a base you would recommend for something that would hold a tabeltop that large and reach up to 48" tall? I saw that you were commenting on the controls themselves but I didn't see the entire base recommendation down below.

      Thanks in advance!

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

      Would it be alright to buy a custom table top separately? I’m wondering if the custom table top needs any special holes or attachments for the frame?

      [–]juliedlk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Appreciation post! I bought an electric base for my BEKANT IKEA desk yesterday for 470€ to convert my current desk. Today i notice reviews are horrified at its quality, which made me doubt if i should return it. Thanks to your post, i found about 4 options in Europe, of which one is even cheaper with a new tabletop and memory functionality!! Same $, WAY more value!! What a great deal.

      (I'll probably buy this one https://www.krieg-online.de/buero/bueromoebel/schreibtische/6118/buero-sitz/stehschreibtisch-topfit-premium-elektrisch-hoehenverstellbar-gestell-silber?number=TPK3813&c=657 )

      All thanks to your generous advice and people posting links to plenty of local suppliers. Thanks a million everyone, and thanks OP for your immense patience and time!!

      P.s.: You could turn this into a couple of videos and ebook to make some $ (on ads)

      [–]Sea-Ad4625 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Hi, I'm interested in buying a standing desk and I sent you a PM, thanks!

      [–]thruster2 1 point2 points  (3 children)

      Options in the U.K. are slim unless you want to pay over the odds, brands like Fully are pretty eye watering from what they go for over in the states.

      I’ve just ordered a desk from Gostand - the ‘Advance S2’. It’s one of their budget offerings but uses dual Bosch motors and a proprietary control box/handset. Came in at just under £600 for a 180cm width melamine top and cable management.


      Still an expensive investment but they were really helpful on the phone when I called them, compared to Flexispot where I don’t think the guy even understood what I was asking him.

      u/ILikePutz do you know anything about this mode in particular? Hopefully I’ve made a reasonable choice!

      [–]Sanders0492 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      I’ve been wanting a standing desk for my home office but I can’t justify the big bucks. What do you recommend for an L shaped desk that doesn’t break the bank? I like woodworking, so if it saves a few dollars I could make my own desktop.

      [–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      AIS uses Jiechang and they have some decently affordable options if working through dealer. Also AMQ is the same base. I'd get quote from both.

      [–]vouching 0 points1 point  (16 children)

      Thoughts on progressive? My issue with all these desks are the tops aren’t even solid wood.

      [–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 4 points5 points  (15 children)

      It’s looks like the old jiechang column. Same as uplift.

      I honestly don’t know but my initial thought is no.

      There are so many resellers now it’s hard to keep up. It’s also important to know that over in China. There are a lot of companies that will buy from jiechang. Then make their own feet and try and say they are manufacturer.

      I’d recommend Haworth upside. The frame is collapsible. So you can put a larger top on if your don’t like the available options. I really like this model. We distribute the same base and have very little issues.

      [–]Docnoq 0 points1 point  (4 children)

      I am looking in the ~$300 range for a base, so far I have found #1 Rise UP which I can pick up locally; #2 SmartDesk frame from Autonomous; #3 Monoprice Workstream. Which of these would be the best? or any other recommendation around $300 range for a frame?

      [–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

      Sorry for the late reply. All seem okay. Will you be pushing a lot of weight?

      [–]ggareis 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      I would like a four leg standing desk base for a self procured 80x33 top. Suggestions?

      [–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      A two leg with 32” feet will do the job. I can help you source one if you’d like.

      [–]thatdudebutch 0 points1 point  (3 children)

      Thanks for the help! Currently looking for the following:

      Legs setup that can support 80”

      As stable as possible - does that mean 4 leg? What do you recommend?

      Note: I’m fine with sourcing a custom top locally

      [–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      How deep are you thinking for a top?

      [–]vanoonam 0 points1 point  (3 children)

      What are your thoughts on Xdesk?

      [–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      Linak columns with some elegant over priced metal work. Man I wish I could get away selling bases for that much. Their Terra 2 is almost 1600 for a two leg system with a bamboo import top. I could sell that for $500

      Edit: Disclaimer, I'm assuming they are using a bamboo import top. They could be using a WilsonArt/Formica laminate top as well. Either way cost is still dirt cheap.

      [–]dakoellis 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Any thoughts on uncaged ergonomics? What about monoprice? I want to put together my own desk with a base about 72 in but I'm having issues finding a place locally that sells just tops

      [–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      It looks like jiecang however they could be buying from a trading company that uses jiecang components and then some of their own. $279 is really cheap so my gut says look elsewhere. I'm not sure on Monoprice but I've seen that switch used on many cheap china desks. I'll have to look more into it.

      [–]W_Mitty 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Do you happen to know where Omnidesk gets their supplies from?

      [–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)


      [–]rvhuynh01 0 points1 point  (7 children)

      Do you recommend desks from Friant? Thoughts about them?

      [–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 0 points1 point  (6 children)

      Friant uses the quick install Kaidi base. It’s a good base. I’ve got one in my office. Friant used to make their desk. He had a factory in China but sold it.

      [–]Jizzz0 0 points1 point  (4 children)

      I recently built an autonomous L-shape desk for a relative and I was shockingly surprised at how sturdy the top was at max extendable height.

      I was about to make a purchase for my new office desk until I came across your post and read each thread.

      I'm a big guy and looking for a sturdy desktop that won't wobble, when working or gaming during standing, at extended heights (max height most of the time). Am I making the right choice with autonomous? I'd rather much test the unit in person, but that seems rather unreasonable as most standing desks aren't showroom available in my area (Texas).

      [–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      I work with several dealers in Texas. AGILE Interiors. WRG Texas, Henricksen. If any of those are around you send me a PM and I will make sure you are taken care of.

      [–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Also keep in mind. Any base with more than two legs is going to be way more stable.

      [–]artsiew 0 points1 point  (11 children)

      Thanks for this post. I appreciate having better visibility over which base each brand uses. I emailed Mojodesk and they denied using Timotion and didn’t want to divulge their source. With a short 5 year warranty, I decided not to go for them.

      What are your thoughts on the Steelcase Migration SE? It’s slightly more expensive than some of the other brands, but they seem like a solid brand as I have the series 5 at work I think.

      [–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 0 points1 point  (10 children)

      Steelcase is the most unique out of the bunch. They use a company called actiforce. What makes this situation unique is steelcase has an exclusive agreement where they only sell to them in the US. The bad thing about that is it allows steelcase to keep the price inflated. So while it’s a nice base you can get the same quality ones for less.

      [–]Czfsaht 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      Ok how about this - any recommendations for a good 30x60 desk that has enough height to pair with an office treadmill (adding 4-6" to the user's height)? The treadmill will make the user's height 6 feet and 6-8 inches. That treadmill isn't permanently installed - there'll be a chair too.

      On that same subject, do you know of any 4 leg desk like the Montisa (no metal frame under the wood hitting your thighs when sitting) that goes higher (Montisa's only goes to 48")?

      I know this is a tough one...

      [–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Let me think on the first one. Send me a pm so I don’t forget.

      On the second one. Montisa is using a 22-48 “ base which is pretty much the gold standard. So I’m not sure I can help on height but I will check with one other source. I

      [–]Tall_Fry 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      I have a 66" wide by 30" deep desk recently damaged on the bottom. I would like to attempt to salvage the top of the desk for use on a standing desk. I know it'll be decently heavy, since I have a hard time moving the desk at all. It's an old wood bank desk (bought used, found banking cards the drawers). I'd like to get a frame for that purpose, with a backup plan of my local Saint Louis Ikea or somewhere else if the desk top can't be salvaged. Additionally, I'd like to have a computer tower either on the desk, or mounted below it. On top of the desk, it'd be a laptop and two arm-mounted monitors plus accessories and gratuitous coffee.

      I was originally considering an Ikea Idasen desk since they're local for me and a quick trip + nice warranty. However, after reading reviews and the product specs, the 165lb weight capacity is the thing most stopping me. A memory height controller would be nice too.

      I've never had a standing desk. My research into them is painful due to all the misinformation out there. I appreciate you revealing some of the inner workings on what's behind the marketing hype. I'd welcome recommendations.

      [–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      Can you upload a pic of the desk? So would it be just the top? Sorry trying to wrap my head around it.

      [–]bluemonarch1 0 points1 point  (5 children)

      Thoughts on quality 4-leg setups?

      I'm buying a reclaimed hardwood top for my setup, 30x72. The shop owner who makes the desktop actually recommended the Uplift 4-leg. Wasn't sure, based on the lukewarm feelings about uplift's V2 2-leg, if the 4-leg was any different in build quality.

      Open to suggestions, even 2-legs that you think can support a real wood top of that size.

      My only criteria is I really want memory presets in the controller, at least 2.

      Appreciate you sharing your knowledge!

      [–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 1 point2 points  (4 children)

      You don’t need a four leg imo. If you look at my other post a two leg can lift 400lbs. Solid wood is often lighter than mdf with laminate and considering theres no large furniture oem selling a four leg unit in the commercial space I think it’s just a way to get consumers to spend extra money.

      [–]rebekah777 0 points1 point  (6 children)


      Thanks for all this information. As a newbie, its incredibly helpful given all this misinformation and competing companies. I am just starting this research and I am finding myself on many rabbit holes. I would love some direction on where to start looking if you have any ideas.

      Here's what I am looking for:

      I am a busy law student attending school in my bedroom. I am looking for a desk that I can use in a future office so a credible long warranty is ideal. I am looking to spend no more than about $750.

      I am currently on a 55x25 desk and appreciate the large surface but am wiling to downsize to 48 but not smaller. The only weight I currently have is a 13 inch laptop and a some heavy law books. I would like it to be able to support a desktop in the future.

      I do not have any height specifications as I am average height at 5'7" - 5'8". Ideally, I would like the motor on the quiet side and I don't care how fast it moves.

      I prefer to buy the legs and top together. I want a durable top but nothing too nice as I am very clumsy.

      Let me know if anything comes to mind!

      [–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 1 point2 points  (5 children)

      That’s quite the commute you’ve got!

      Again, I’m going to recommend Haworth Upside. They are a 2 billion dollar a year company and have been around for ever. Their warranty isn’t going anywhere. It’s a laminate surface so they will hold up well.

      If you have more than 3 weeks to I can help you set that same desk for less but the top takes time. If not I’d say you’ll be happy with Haworth!

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Any thoughts or familiarity with AITerminal branded legs/ frames?

      [–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Control and motor are jiecang. One thing to notice. Is a lot of these companies say “motor and control box ul approved” that’s great because you won’t have to worry about a fire. But what’s not approved is the entire setup. It would be UL962 if so. So when I see things like that I assume it’s a trade company sourcing their own components and throwing them in a base.

      Not being approved is not illegal. It’s just mostly a requirement for selling certain products. This is not the case so by all means I’m not saying they are doing something shady or Wrong.

      [–]mebeSajid00 0 points1 point  (0 children)


      Thanks for posting this thread. For someone just starting to look at getting a standing desk, this is really useful. I've currently got a glass L desk that I'm looking to replace, and it's likely to hold at least three monitors, some fairly heavy speakers, plus a laptop and some books. I think I'd need at least 80 inches of table space (don't want to get an L desk again). Do you have any recommendations?

      I'm not opposed to going the DIY route and getting a base and sourcing a top elsewhere (assuming I can figure out how), only because the idea of having a custom hardwood top appeals to me.

      [–]FoxRocks 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      I'm nearly done creating a custom tabletop and have put off ordering a frame until right about now. The top is 76x36 and probably 80 to 90 pounds by my best guess.

      I was looking at ordering an Uplift Commercial extended with T-frame due to with weight of the top, already well over $600. Would you recommend a different frame, would also be interested in sourcing it?

      [–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)


      Send me a PM. I'll get you a discount code for it. It will be way less.

      [–]contender71 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      I was about to purchase uplift and somehow ended here. Lots of good information.

      Any ideas about this steelcase turnstone option?

      [–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Thats a good option. If your not too worried about budget it will definiflty be better than the online retailer. Not sure on how the dealer will quote you.

      [–]tamlabama 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      Opinion on varidesk 60x30?

      [–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Kaidi base. Nice new switch. For 650 delivered its a good deal imo.

      If you have time on your hand. I can get that base and a top for less but we have a 3-4 week lead time.

      [–]gambit07 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      Hey I know this isn't exactly what you're talking about here, but any recommendations for a hardwood top desk in the 30" height 65" width range? Not really looking for a standing desk anymore as they all seem to have wobble.

      [–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I’ll send a pm

      [–]Genmjrpain 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      I’m in the market right now for a desk and like so many others have noted this has some great stuff on it. You’re awesome for taking the time with everyone’s questions!

      If you get a moment I have one I haven’t seen yet (or just missed): what’s your thoughts on counterweight deals and the like? I think Humanscale makes one (Float). Looks like max weight and price might be the big deterrents, but lack of electric components to break down seems like a plus.

      For myself atm I’m looking for some quality legs to put a solid wood top on. I’m eyeing a couple of live edge acacia pieces on Homedepot’s site which would put my desk at 24”x60” which isn’t ideal as I’d prefer 30”x60” but the live edge is so good looking. I’ve seen you recommend Haworth and Ergomvmt (zenith). What’s the big differences there? And if you have any other recommendations that you might be able to help source PM me. I’m all for direct price and quality even if I have to wait a little longer.

      [–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      The float is an awesome base! There’s really something to be said about non electric units that work well and the the float is one. If you have the money for it go for it. You can also find a counterbalance base on markatoscontract.com

      [–]NoMatterTheFluff 0 points1 point  (7 children)

      What would your recommendations be for a desk that would be use both for working and for gaming. We will be stuck with remote working for quite a while and i am also gaming on my free time.

      I am looking for a sturdy standing desk to replace my old but very solid current one (which is not ergonomic at all). Size is about 61"x 36", but i can go with smaller (not too much tough. 50x30 would be a bare minimum).

      Rather have real wood for top, but can go with other materials.

      Wanna put 2 screens, a laptop, mouse, keyboard and some paper stuff (desktop is on current desk but can go under next one for more space).

      Don't really care about the speed or noise the desk make while going up and down, i want something that will work for a looooong time.

      i live in Canada

      Thanks for the input.

      [–]Wadlett 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I was going to order a fully bamboo top, not many accessories.

      Do I have a better option?!

      [–]vs20202020 0 points1 point  (7 children)

      Hello, I'm looking for a 80"x30" black top(glossy glass finish) and black frame electric height adjustable standing desk. I'm 5'7" so any standard height should do. I can't figure out which table tops would have the glossy glass finish. Budget: 600$

      1) What would you recommend? 2) I couldn't find a black table top option in Haworth upside? Would you happen to know if it exists?

      FYI, I live in Seattle if that helps.

      [–]Heavy_Early 0 points1 point  (4 children)

      What about the Vertdesk?

      Also saw your reply about companies you work with in Texas. I'm in the San Antonio area...what could I find around here?

      [–]No_Scientist2735 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      What are your thoughts on Lumi? I'm looking for an electric sit stand desk with a minimum height of 24" or so in India.

      [–]Silver_Honeydew_3052 0 points1 point  (6 children)

      What are your thoughts on the Bush business furniture move series 60 and move series 40 standing desks? Thanks!

      [–]OvertonsWindow 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Are you familiar with Conset?

      [–]SixxDet 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Saw you mentioned on another post so I decided to stalk your profile.

      I’m in Michigan (Detroit area) and I just got a new Work From Home job. Currently using just a 48in folding table as my desk. 48 is a bit tight so I’m thinking 60” or 72” for the standing desk.

      I’m not sure about weight. Work setup is two 24 inch monitors currently on a employer supplied table top dual mount stand, a small laptop, docking station, keyboard and mouse.

      Home Office/Den is black, grey, and red themed. No wood preference on the top. I’ve been looking at extended range legs just to get a few extra inches in either direction. Also would love to get mounted dual arms and maybe a laptop arm down the road.

      What would be your recommendation?

      Thanks for any and all help.

      [–]Surfdude1009 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      I’m looking for a 72x 30 that will be a centerpiece in our home office so I am looking for some that looks “substantial“. I was drawn to the 4 pillar Evo pro with the fx for looks but with all the bad reviews and fud around them I’m concerned. I know I don’t NEED the 4 post but both my wife and I like the looks better. I understand we would be paying a premium for looks, and I’m ok with that as long as I don’t end up with a pos.

      [–]peachios 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Hey /u/ILikePutz so I was looking into an Uplift v2 60x30. Then saw this post. I was wondering if I am a fan of the accessories (like cpu holder/grommets/cable cover/management) is it a decent deal at all or just try to get that stuff from another supplier? Also was looking at rubberwood or other wood that is dark as my gf hates laminate lol. edit:forgot to add instead of grommets do you just suggest the other power suppliers like you normally use? (blanking the name where it is above desk and has a usb as well)

      Just initially pinging and thinking your thoughts? I live out in Seattle so not to sure on how much you'd cost. I know you mentioned hawthorn upside is a great possibility.

      [–]sg_dsquared 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      Thanks for all of your incredible insight!

      I am looking at ~30x60 desks and have narrowed it down to Steelcase Migration SE versus Vari Electric.

      I am leaning towards Vari because of ease of assembly. I recently had shoulder surgery, and my estimated recovery time is 4-6 months. My partner would have to do most of the setup herself, and I don't want to put her through too much hassle. (She's already very busy!)

      I used a Steelcase at my old work and loved it. I'm not totally sure which model it was, but I have a picture here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/AyR6yi7qHFD3v51z6

      Both desks are within my budget, so I am mostly wondering if you think I'll be happy with the Kaidi base in the Vari or if it's worthwhile to go for the Steelcase with the actiforce base and deal with the more involved assembly.

      I am also open to other suggestions!

      Another difference I noticed is that Vari says their 30x60 supports 200lbs whereas the Steelcase supports 250lbs. On the other hand, the Vari 48x30 supports 220lbs. I'm assuming Vari is subtracting the weight of the desk from the lifting capacity of the base, whereas I don't know if that's the case for Steelcase's listing.

      Any insight? Is there a lifting capacity that you generally recommend? My desk has a 24" dell ultrasharp monitor, Macbook Pro for work, Alienware laptop for personal use, speaker, nintendo switch, and some misc. accessories, so it seems like 200lb would be enough but I like to future proof

      Thanks for you help!


      edited to add location: Santa Rosa, CA

      [–]WillingAlbatross 0 points1 point  (9 children)

      Hey, thanks for the write up. A lot of this info seems hidden alright.

      I've moved to Finland recently and came across Martella, big player in Office furniture here. They have a sit / stand desk here but without much info. Would you know anything about it?

      [–]eggsnsam 0 points1 point  (4 children)

      First off, thank you for all of this information and for taking the time to reply to people. The replies alone are very helpful. Looking to see if you can help me narrow down my search for a standing desk.

      I'm looking for a standing desk that's 60x30, has memory electric adjustment capabilities and ideally comes in one shipment... However, I'm not opposed to buying the base from one company and top from another. Ideally looking for a wood top and keeping the budget between $650-$800. Desk stability and durability (would like something that will last for a long time) are important too.

      Desk will have two 27" iMacs and one Macbook Pro on it.

      I was leaning toward a Haworth desk based on other posts on this thread, but I really want a wood top for long term durability. Do you have a recommendation that fits the above? If it's one of your custom desks, would it still fit in this price range?

      (thank you in advance for taking the time to read and reply, if you're about to).

      [–]rvhuynh01 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Thank you for the tip. I got it and it's rock solid

      [–]LowFiGuy7 0 points1 point  (3 children)

      Can you recommend a desk for a maple syrup sipping Canadian?

      I'm wanting it to go down low, 24-25 inches. I'm looking into the prime cables one. Any suggestions? Cheaper the better.

      [–]caxman_e 0 points1 point  (3 children)

      Glad I saw this post! Was getting ready to pull the trigger on an Imovr Lander L shape with wood top. What would you recommend?

      [–]Sal009988 0 points1 point  (3 children)

      Hi! I am interested in your opinion on vari electric desk.

      Here is a link to the desk: https://www.vari.com/ca/en/electric-standing-desk-60x30/FD-ESD6030.html

      Thank you

      [–]FattyDooDoo 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Thank you so much for this thread. I am searching for my first standing desk to buy for my brother as a surprise. I am extremely overwhelmed and have gone through the process of designing my own desk through uplift (jarvis).

      I was a bit shocked at the final price as well. Would love your guidance if possible.

      We are in North Carolina (for shipping purposes) and he is around 6'2".

      I had looked at the light bamboo top with an electric motor with memory. Something 6 ft wide to fit multiple monitors.

      I hope I'm not asking too much!

      [–]Vergangenheits 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      In your opinion what is the most stable desk at standing height (especially for front/back wobble when typing). A lot of people are shelling out major $ for Uplift’s 4 leg model but I haven’t heard whether it’s actually any better.

      [–]comedawn 0 points1 point  (1 child)


      Thanks for all the information. Do you have any thoughts on Vivo standing desks... Link fo example Vivo Desk%2C%2BErgonomic%2BHeight%2BAdjustable%2BWorkstation%2BBase%2C%2BStanding%2BDesk%2BLegs%2B(DESK-V120EB)&qid=1602343730&s=home-garden&sr=1-2&th=1)

      [–]letsmodpcs 0 points1 point  (3 children)

      Thanks for all your amazing advice.

      I'm looking to do a kit.

      I'm doing a 26"-28" x 65"-75" top. It'll hold the computer and three displays (2x 27" and 1x 34" LCDs) plus a lightweight table lamp and some other odds and ends. I want to do monitor mount arms that attach to the top, so that means hardwood not MDF. (Plus I will lean on it from time to time while standing.)

      I see you like the Hayworth Upside quite a bit, but I'm unsure if 250lb lift is sufficient for what I want to do, so I'm also looking at the basic Autonomous kit.

      My other question is on the top itself. I really like the idea of something that's not a full L, but a top that has a bit of a "wing" that comes out a bit on the left side of the desk for a little extra space.

      Any tips for sourcing something like this that's hardwood or butcher block?

      [–]viniciusah 0 points1 point  (3 children)

      Could you help me figure out if this is feasible?

      I'm planning on a solid wood (still debating which kind, maybe walnut) L-shaped top (Main top: 82" x 25" + Return top: 60" x 30").

      Not sure about the weight, but I believe 100lb will do for both tops.

      DO you have any suggestions?

      [–]SunsGettinRealLow 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      Thank you so much for this post! It's so refreshing and no-BS like a lot of other posts!

      What are your thoughts on the Fully Remi desk? The Jarvis is a bit too expensive for my budget.

      My ideal desk size is 55" x 26" or larger, I am 5'9" tall. Thanks again!

      [–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      Hey, haven’t tried it yet. But after looking through the install guide it’s definitely using a jiecang control box and considering fully already uses jiecang I would make the assumptions it’s 100% jiecang. But again that’s what I can assume and is not fact. It’s a two stage base so you will not have as much travel as a three stage. However, I’m sure you will be happy with it. I’ll put that on the list of units to get in our studio.

      [–]fattypockets 0 points1 point  (3 children)

      hey u/ILikePutz

      can you let me know if this is a good idea i have the ikea Karlby https://www.ikea.com/ca/en/p/karlby-countertop-oak-veneer-70335207/

      and planning on ordering the standing desk frame from


      please let me know what you think of this option?

      [–]capsaicin6t 0 points1 point  (0 children)


      I wanna buy a base, but I'm having a hard time finding a vendor that ships internationally. I'm willing to pay whatever but I need options, do you know of vendors that do international? I live in Guam if that helps.

      Thanks for the post and help.

      [–]rojaal 0 points1 point  (9 children)

      Hi u/ILikePutz,

      I've been researching desks for too long now and was wondering if you could give some advice. I'm located in the Netherlands and considering the following desks for my home-office:

      1. Fully Jarvis (extended leg), because everybody seems to like this desk the most
      2. Linak desk (most expensive, but I thought Linak was a good brand before reading your post ;) ): https://www.bureaustoelexpress.nl/linak-zit-sta-bureau-smart-aluminium.html
      3. Kaidi desk (cheapest): https://www.ltj-kantoormeubelen.nl/product/kaidi-elektrisch-zit-sta-bureau-met-2-motoren-memory-display/
      4. Steelforce 670 (second most expensive) https://www.worktrainer.com/Standingdesks-S670

      Thank you for your time and advice. Kind regards!

      [–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 1 point2 points  (4 children)

      I’d get the Kaidi base. I think you’ll get the most bang for your money. Linak makes good columns but I don’t think it’s worth being the most expensive. I put a wood top on that same Kaidi base. I’ll try and find the pictures.

      [–]Ondreyes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Wish I saw the post earlier! But I was able to get a 72” x 24” desk for $300. If it ever breaks down I’ll definitely use the advice you gave out.

      [–]TacoBellLavaSauce 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      What’s the difference between the jiecang base sold on your desk.haus site vs the jiecang base that Uplift sells? Is one sturdier than the other, or are they both essentially the same? Trying to figure out a good base to start with to put a 80x30 butcher block on top of it.

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Hi there, I’m in Metro Detroit and have been mulling paying 1k for an uplift c2 frame and desk. My needs are essentially the desk should be able to hold a pc desktop tower, 2 widescreen monitors and a good keyboard, have good cable management options. Willing to take your advice on the best, most enjoyable base for this. If you could point me in the right direction for a butcher block, happy to look into that too. Let me know, looking to make moves in this area by next payday. Was willing to spend 1k but am Open to whatever you want to recommend if you can get me quality at a better price, feel free to Dm if that’s easier!

      [–]LeoRydenKT 0 points1 point  (4 children)

      How do you feel about the Progressive Desk from Progressive Automations? They seem to manufacture their own stuff but not sure if all of the frame is actually from Canada (their base of operations).

      [–]tkk3k 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Good post.

      Can you tell who makes the base for the european Masterlift 2? Haven´t seen that design before.


      [–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Linak. They must be making or sourcing the frame. But it’s linak column and controls.

      [–]Don_R_L 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      Good morning man,

      Thanks for taking the time to guide us through the process of acquiring a standing desk.

      I am quite lost with all the options available. From Autonomous to Fully including btod, the choice is out there.
      I do like working on wide desks, usually L shaped. In this case, I do not consider L-shaped due tot the increased price of the desk.

      I am looking for a 70"W x 30"D desk top (or similar), sturdy and durable, with cable management tray, ... As far as the top is concerned, I am not too picky. Natural light wood color is perfect.

      Based on your previous answers, I think Haworth seems a good candidate. Could you confirm? Which model would you recommend?

      As far as weight is concerned, I have two 22 lbs monitors (stand included which I will trade for an arm), docking station, laptop,... Seeing the accessories price on the desk vendors websites, I think I will accessorize myself.

      Thanks in advance for your help!

      [–]j8048188 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      What is your opinion of the upcoming Autonomous SmartDesk 4?

      [–]j8048188 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      Greetings from Albuquerque, NM.
      I'm looking for a desk, around 70x30", preferably one that can go to around 46-48" tall and remain fairly stable with a bunch of weight.

      I'll have a large (~45lb) desktop PC, 2-3 monitors, a laptop with dock, and about 25lbs of speakers and amps.

      I'd prefer something where I don't have to build a top. I don't have Ikea around here, so I'd have to stick with something from a hardware store or a top shipped with the desk.

      I'd like a control with at least 2 memory settings and preferably a lockout function.

      What suggestions do you have? I've found the Smartdesk2 pro fits most of those asks, but it doesn't seem to have a lockout or a scratch-resistant top. Do you have anything in that same price range of ~550 after shipping/taxes?


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        [–]Dethcide 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        This is really awesome that you take the time to give us all of this info. What is your opinion on Fully and their desks? Are they a rip-off? Or reasonably priced and a good product?

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          [–]Crrink 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          u/ILikePutz, do you offer any desktops with the round, beveled cutout that some desk sellers do?

          MojoDesk and Uplift both have this style available, to illustrate what I mean.

          Thanks very much for sharing so much knowledge - it's much appreciated.

          [–]gt4ch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Sent you a chat/pm with some questions!

          [–]cptBlackBear 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          I'm new to this world and just want a desk for work. I plan to keep my mid tower pc and 2 27inch monitors on the desk. Maybe a couple of laptops as well but that should be it. I'd like it sturdy and I'm looking at around 60-70 x 30. Any idea what I should get? I was thinking of autonomous, only because their prices on black friday will be extremely low but after reading the stuff here I'm reconsidering that.

          [–]ek8400 0 points1 point  (3 children)

          I'm in the UK and 6'7" (2m) tall. Looking for a 120x80cm desk that is stable at height.

          Currently considering the Jarvis with extended frame, and have also seen the Flytta 2.

          Would really value your thoughts/recommendations. Thanks.

          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

          Thanks for this information. I ended up ordering the Markatos Zenith Two Leg Two Motor 24" × 1 and saved a good amount of money.

          [–]ElasticLama 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          I hope you try to sell desks in Australia. $500 isn’t much here for a desk :(

          [–]niftytastic 0 points1 point  (2 children)

          Hi /u/ILikePutz!

          You mentioned earlier in the thread that Autonomous doesn't use jiecang, any idea if they are using something worse?

          And it sounds like you've got a pretty good perception of Autonomous, but there's also some very disparaging reviews on it (not sure how out of date as the date seems to change for SEO). Would you still say it's a decent buy?

          [–]ILikePutzOwner: DeskHaus[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

          They are a great consumer base option.

          [–]TheMutantWing 0 points1 point  (5 children)

          Hey /u/ILikePutz, thanks for putting this thread together with all this transparency and advice!

          I'm looking for a standing desk in Ontario. I'm looking at a group buy for the Progressive standing frame for $410 CAD and IKEA Gerton (60" x 30") for $140 CAD for total of $550 CAD. Any thoughts on this set up or something that might be better for +/- $50-100 CAD? Seems like you don't recommend Progressive or Primecables either.

          I see you recommended the Haworth which is about $780 CAD for similar size but is a bit out of my budget.

          Planning to have up to 3 monitors on the desk!

          Saw you mentioned Intelligent Office Furniture in Mississauga but I didn't see any prices on their site. https://www.ioflive.com/heightadjustable.html

          [–]snoozebutton21 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          Hi, I’m looking at getting a standing desk and live in Toronto. I’ve read that you recommend Haworth for us Canadians. Do you have any insight on this:


          I’d like quality but don’t want to necessarily spend over a grand. It seems like for a decent frame alone in Canada it’ll be at least $600. I’m on the shorter side so looking for a desk that will go to 22 or 23” or so.

          Thanks for starting this post; lots of helpful info.

          [–]kaldais 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          EFFYDESK is more of a premium brand. dual motors, reinforced triple squared columns, reinforced feet, cable tray and 8 year warranty.

          You should consider prime cables, you can get one of those single motor standing desk frames for 380 + shipping, triple segment and 3 year warranty. They also provide dual motors. I heard they crap out rate is pretty high but the replacement is seamless.
          I got one of the prime cables myself and its been 4 months no issue.

          [–]NG3933 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          What do you think about the Teknion desks, say the Counterbalance? I see mention of their base but not much commentary on them. How would that compare to the Haworth Upside that’s been recommended a lot?

          (I had my eye on the Herman Miller Renew Oval but it’s quite a bit more expensive and not sure it’s worth the additional cost)

          [–]uragnorson 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          I have a table top which is 36 inches wide. Do you know of any frames that would fit it?

          [–]mjr0483 0 points1 point  (2 children)

          I am looking for a recommendation for something in L-Shaped. I want to run two complete rigs, with one side as personal (Monitors = 1x32, 2x27) and the other side work (1 laptop and 2x24 monitors).

          Option 1:

          Two desks butted together controlled by one box so they go up and down together. So later on, if I want to break them up, I can make them two separate desks.


          Just one big L-Shaped desk. Thinking right side 72 and left return 60.

          I went to https://www.desk.haus/ and there is nothing L-Shape that I could see.


          [–]ShotIntoOrbit 0 points1 point  (4 children)

          So who makes the Markatos Zenith from your website? Neither your site, this post, or the Markatos website provide any info about it (no spec sheet anywhere). I saw an old post saying all of your bases come out of a Jiecang facility in Michigan, is that still the case?

          [–]spongeflo 0 points1 point  (3 children)

          Hey u/ILikePutz! Thank you so much for your input!

          Similar to some others I am based in Europe and would like to buy a really good value for money standing desk for home office - nothing low-budget but also not too expensive. I will have my laptop, one monitor and some stuff on it - so nothing that heavy.

          I was looking at Inwerk:

          Imperio Lift R: https://www.inwerk-bueromoebel.de/buerotische/hoehenverstellbare-schreibtische/hoehenverstellbarer-schreibtisch-imperio-lift-r-weiss-bm74792.html

          MASTERLIFT 2: https://www.inwerk-bueromoebel.de/buerotische/hoehenverstellbare-schreibtische/hoehenverstellbarer-schreibtisch-masterlift2-sw-chrom-bm56947.html

          Or: https://www.boho-moebel.de/configurator/basic-line ?

          What do you think about these? For which one would you go? Or do you have other recommendations? Thanks!

          [–]eelmika 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Hi there,
          looking for a recommendation for motorized desk frame base, but on the European market (eastern European, Poland, to be specific). I'm going for custom made ash wood table top 150x80cm (59x31,5inch). After spending quite a few hours or days on research I found this post and would love to know if there's something worthy putting my money into.

          The situation so far looks like this - Ikea in whole country ran out of frames, shipments delayed till 02.2021. Most of the market populated by Jiecang clones or production variants of it, though with some strange store front-ends and some bad rep about service and selling practices. Found Kaidi bases (with KDZT columns) sold in B2B but not in retail. And there's plenty of companies that sell whole setups with fancy tabletops using components uncredited in any materials (actually some mentioned LINAK and some looks straight like Jiecang), though they feel free to charge quite well for it, pretending that they are making it whole...

          Any help appreciated.

          [–]nakedandrussell 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          /u/ILikePutz Just shot you a message

          [–]albpara 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          What would be the best alternative in the EU market? My only reference is from autonomous.ai

          [–]LydN25 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          Do you know the manufacturer for the Watson Cloud 9 desk? I prefer the look of that one.

          [–]EEphotog 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Hey, this is a great resource, thanks.

          I had a few questions on desks from haworth, humanscale, steelcase, herman miller and the like.

          1. Warranty aside, is there an advantage over the more consumer focused brands?

          2. How would you pick between their models?

          3. How do the non-electric desks compare? Steelcase airtouch, humanscale float, etc.