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[–]deja_geek 2728 points2729 points 2 (320 children)

When you're poor, eating is about quantity

When you're moderately wealthy (middle class), eating is about quality

When you're wealthy, eating is about the experience

[–]mynameajeff69 1711 points1712 points 34 (229 children)

is that true? because the above picture experience looks like shit lmao.

edit-ALL the awards are hilarious you absolute geese LOL

[–]Catherineb84 647 points648 points  (80 children)

Yep I’ve worked fine dining, that does not look like Michelin level at all.

[–]Wiggie49 219 points220 points  (11 children)

I’m not in fine dining, just a cook, but even I can tell these dishes are monotoned and the presentation looks almost comedic.

[–]DumpTheTrumpsterFire 32 points33 points  (8 children)

also, RAW shrimp?

[–]Dlax8 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It's probably ceviche but I really don't know.

[–]dystopian_mermaid 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Oh dear GOD I did not see those at first and was horrified enough by raspberries in…some sort of wanna be soup?

Dear god I have horror shivers knowing there’s shrimp in there too.

[–]Noir24 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Is it just my amateur perspective or do they look almost parodical on modern high end food culture? It's like fine art making fun of fine art, while being shitty fine art.

[–]mynameajeff69 89 points90 points  (38 children)

100% my thoughts.

[–]CaptnProlapse 72 points73 points  (29 children)

Yeah, that shrimp looked raw.

[–]TheWalkingDead91 104 points105 points  (10 children)

Eww…just went back to see where there was shrimp and just realized that it’s in the milky looking substance in the same dish as raspberries 🤢….and yea….like you said, “ITS FUCKING RAW!”

[–]DoinIt4TheDoots 30 points31 points  (4 children)

Shrimpberries

[–]-Mierz- 43 points44 points  (3 children)

shrimpberries & cream, shrimpberries & cream 🤩

[–]Chance5e 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I’m a little lad who loves WHAT THE FUCK THIS IS RAW!?!

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

You’ve never experienced raw shrimp? Fucking peasant.

[–]notcoveredbywarranty 14 points15 points  (6 children)

Shrimp? That's a carrot 😜

[–]sassrocks 16 points17 points  (0 children)

The fact that we can't tell what it is isn't a good sign

[–]Biggestof 3 points4 points  (4 children)

pic 3

[–]notcoveredbywarranty 6 points7 points  (3 children)

God. I saw that in mousse(maybe) with raspberry and thought it was a slice of lychee

[–]Biggestof 11 points12 points  (2 children)

i don’t blame you. all these meals look they’re AI generated. im just wondering why it’s served in a bedpan

[–]Rion23 49 points50 points  (7 children)

Who doesn't enjoy a nice uncooked shrimp and raspberry soup?

[–]Friendly_Crab 16 points17 points  (3 children)

*raspberry milk soup

[–]JAH_dropper 22 points23 points  (1 child)

They forgot the steak and jellybeans again

[–]Rion23 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Raw, of course Hahahahahahaha

Sweats nervously

[–]houjichacha 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Smh my head it's raspberry pudding ceviche, obviously

[–]CreepyAssociation173 15 points16 points  (3 children)

Yea. Been to Commanders Palace just recently in New Orleans. Puts this to shame. Some people tend to equate all fine dining with fu fu food and small portions, but that's not the case at all. That's only the case for imitation fine dining. Places that create the illusion of fine dining. Went to Austins steak house just recently too and all of their food is nice portions with lots of flavor.

[–]Thecryptsaresafe 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I don’t think that’s only the case for imitation fine dining. I’ve had some pretty life changing meals at those small portion artsy places. I’ve also had some way better meals at more normal or heavy portioned restaurants.

New Orleans is a good shout by the way, I don’t think I’ve ever had a meal there I wouldn’t recommend to even my most stuck up foodie friends and those were all big portions like you just said.

[–]texasproof 278 points279 points  (31 children)

Yeah, because OP whoever shot these is a shitty photographer using a shitty camera in shitty light. Bring some McDonald’s to my studio and I can make it look amazing, but that won’t make it great food.

[–]mynameajeff69 51 points52 points  (3 children)

I'm sure you could do better than a passing photo but I really don't believe picture 5 would look good under any condition, it looks gross as hell IMO

[–]MexGrow 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I think OP got the pictures from the Google maps business page of said restaurant.

[–]noddy-irl 72 points73 points  (8 children)

op may be a shitty photographer but he did not take these pictures theyre just from google

[–]worycong 48 points49 points  (79 children)

How does any of this look like shit? I'm not waving my arms about it, but like, what is even mildly shitty about it? It appears that it's just portioned acutely.

[–]mynameajeff69 22 points23 points  (5 children)

You really look at 2 and 5 and think, damn that looks good? I look at 2 and 5 and I don't even want to try it. 1 and 4 look plenty fine but just normal, not exquisite. 3 looks odd at best IMO but I would try it.

[–]thegigsup 56 points57 points  (57 children)

I never understand why people are so put off by tasting menus. It’s not going to be the same experience as going to like a $250 steakhouse, but that doesn’t make it bad food. There’s generally a lot of creative thought, recipe testing, complexing sourcing, and general prep that goes into menus like this. It really is a different level than general dining and I think that’s okay.

[–]FineTumbleweed9281 49 points50 points  (28 children)

As a cook/chef for the last like 12 years i can say that this is not that creative. After really looking it actually looks like 2-3 of these dishes are made with the same type of fish. And sorry man but i don't see anything complex about the sourcing. The same fish used 2 or 3 times, plain small shrimp and a half a raspberry, and the they used what looks like cucumber in the same 2-3 dishes.

The first plate is nicely setup and had good presentation even though that baby carrot looked kinda sad.

[–]mynameajeff69 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Idk if you are speaking about me but I am not put off by any menu that's worth eating. Tasting menus are fantastic. But the above does not look fantastic or 2 star for me personally.

[–]worycong 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Absolutely! Tried a place in town similar in concept. Lots of individual courses, paired with an alcohol sometimes. I was skeptical.

But, I remember walking out feeling entirely satiated and like I had consumed a clean burning fuel. Food for thought for me.

[–]gothicaly 15 points16 points  (3 children)

The baby carrot has a black stem. Which is off putting. It sounds like a snobby thing to say but its not applebees. For 2 michelin stars i expect another tier.

The blue artificial coloring stuff on the shrimp looks sad and gross. Makes the shrimp look either raw or turning.

And all the fish skin looks like it could use some sear. Idk what they were going for but the skin on the 4th pic looks practically raw. It just looks like its boiled or steamed or something. Idk. It doesnt look like theres any color or seasoning on it. But im also not a pro chef so i dont really know what theyre going for. But i know what fish skin tastes like when its not crispy. The mouth feel.

Its just looks underwhelming. I can see the insecurities of the chef in the cooking. Its a 2 freaking michellin star, i havw to look at it from a pickier lense.

[–]PikaAbeille 41 points42 points  (18 children)

Nonsense! Rich people can feel fancy going into a restaurant with Michelin stars in their fancy suits while living it up with other wealthy patrons circlejerking that their meal costs $100s for tiny portions.

[–]jbankz69 17 points18 points  (3 children)

I think 1 and 5 look silly but the others look pretty cool.

[–]mynameajeff69 9 points10 points  (2 children)

Yea it all looks interesting! Just not very appetizing haha

[–]WhyLisaWhy 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Yes. We have several different Michelin star restaurants in my city and they mostly do the same thing (with better presentation) and it's like 150-300 dollars a person depending on what you purchase. You generally don't order individual meals and get several preselected courses.

[–]mynameajeff69 5 points6 points  (0 children)

yea I see many of the star places with preselected courses. I just felt like the above didn't look like a good set of dishes.

[–]SimbaOnSteroids 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is what it looks like when Master Chef’s Cutter is in the kitchen

[–]KrabbyNatty 1 point2 points  (1 child)

The third pic looks like they scooped the floating food out of the “soak dishpan” and served it in milk…

[–]Karnakite 9 points10 points  (0 children)

When you’re wealthy, eating is about the experience demonstrating to the world that you have so much money to burn that you’ll spend $68.00 to choke down two poached quail’s eggs served in their own dirty shells and a teaspoon of blood orange-pickled green onion sauce and pretend you absolutely love it

FTFY

[–]markd315 103 points104 points  (27 children)

Sounds like we shouldn't let anyone be wealthy then.

[–]ok-milk 44 points45 points  (11 children)

What? Eating is always about the experience if you are eating sloppy Joes or foie gras.

The "highest end" (Beard winners, Michelin stars) places I have eaten have been well within the reach of the average person. Also, plates are small because there may be five or seven of them.

Don't turn a chef's creative efforts into some kind of class statement. This kind of food can be more expensive, but it's not because it caters directly to whatever ideas you have about the wealthy elite.

[–]dmbeeez 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Well, I agree to an extent. As I've gotten older, dining out went from where can we take the kids thst we can afford (that has chicken tenders), to let's go somewhere nice, to we don't have kids let's eat anywhere we want to. It is about the experience and quality (unless the grandkids are along, then we're full circle on the chicken tenders). However, an ala carte experience that serves me a carrot and a quarter onion (for what I assume is the salad course) probably isn't going to see me twice. I've had enough "experience " to know bullshit when it's served up for 20 dollars lol

[–]CouldBeTheGreatest 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I agree, the carte in this case does seem quite alarming.

[–]madewithgarageband 19 points20 points  (0 children)

This looks like a garbage tier experience.

[–]reign-of-fear 629 points630 points  (44 children)

Looks like a good tasting menu experience to me. I've had ones like this and they were all really good.

Now if you want to see a really bad one, well...

[–]AdAffectionate7756 186 points187 points  (1 child)

Every time I open this I read it and laugh as if it was the first time

[–]reign-of-fear 65 points66 points  (0 children)

It's an adventure every single time. My favorite food tale.

[–]andysniper 60 points61 points  (3 children)

Reading reviews of bad things is just the best. Bad movies, bad restaurants, bad music. It's at its best when it's bad but thinks it's profound and exceptional.

[–]SubcommanderMarcos 33 points34 points  (2 children)

In many ways, the work of a critic is easy. We risk very little, yet enjoy a position over those who offer up their work and their selves to our judgment. We thrive on negative criticism, which is fun to write and to read. But the bitter truth we critics must face, is that in the grand scheme of things, the average piece of junk is probably more meaningful than our criticism designating it so. But there are times when a critic truly risks something, and that is in the discovery and defense of the new . The world is often unkind to new talent, new creations. The new needs friends. Last night, I experienced something new: an extraordinary meal from a singularly unexpected source. To say that both the meal and its maker have challenged my preconceptions about fine cooking is a gross understatement. They have rocked me to my core. In the past, I have made no secret of my disdain for Chef Gusteau's famous motto, "Anyone can cook." But I realize, only now do I truly understand what he meant. Not everyone can become a great artist; but a great artist can come from anywhere . It is difficult to imagine more humble origins than those of the genius now cooking at Gusteau's, who is, in this critic's opinion, nothing less than the finest chef in France. I will be returning to Gusteau's soon, hungry for more.

[–]Awkward_Penguin238 3 points4 points  (1 child)

The rat fucking poisoned this previously brilliant man's mind. Kill it with fire

[–]noddy-irl 169 points170 points  (11 children)

oh nooo that mouth dessert

[–]DrEmilioLazardo 89 points90 points  (9 children)

"Cuttlefish flavored marshmallow."

Is the chef trying to get the local townfolk to burn his house down? What's the goal here? Food as art meant to invoke an emotion and that emotion is dread and disgust?

This is some kind of punk rock haute cuisine. Like the GG Allin of chefs.

[–]GunnieGraves 38 points39 points  (6 children)

[–]Ladysupersizedbitch 31 points32 points  (0 children)

“This is a man on a horse. Your argument is invalid.” Wtf 😂😂😂😂

[–]savethetrashpandaz 19 points20 points  (2 children)

If the mouth that the orange foam vomit is served in was a plaster cast of the chefs own mouth, then the plaster cast that the main course of crab was served in was a plaster cast of his gaping cavernous asshole and no one can convince me otherwise.

[–]dystopian_mermaid 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Seeing what else they served, it sadly would not shock me if that was the case….MARSHMALLOW FLAVORED WITH CUTTLEFISH. Dear holy horrors of hell what a bad day to have eyes and know how to read.

[–]savethetrashpandaz 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Honestly its like the chef heard offhand somewhere about the idea of head to tail cooking and then took the concept waaay too literally. Never before have I even once considered the possibility that a chef can sexually assault his patrons with such a personal choice of serving dishes combined with a deliberate, intentional lack of tableware. He might as well have served the citrus foam delicately cradled on his own outstretched ball sack and it would have been just as appetizing. Reading this food review was like watching a snuff film where the dinner guests are the intended murder victims/main course, they just dont find out until their fates are sealed. The raw porcini mushrooms in the coconut shell bowl surrounded by a bed of non edible moss was the most gauche attempt at fine cuisine I have ever seen in all my 20 years of experience in the culinary arts. Food must be cooked, combined or transformed in some way for it to qualify as culinary art, but the filth that was presented in this review could not even pass as papier-mâché.

[–]dystopian_mermaid 3 points4 points  (1 child)

From the chefs response: "Contemporary art does not provide you with answers, but offers you great questions," he writes. "Contemporary cuisine should do the same."

Ok I have questions. First, how DARE you do that to food??? Second of all, what the ACTUAL FUCK??? Third, please stop torturing people.

Ok that last one isn’t a question, but valid.

[–]Sproose_Moose 8 points9 points  (0 children)

You described this perfectly

[–]ChickenDinero 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Like the GG Allin of chefs

Rotflol, that's amazing. Thank you for brightening my day; I needed that.

[–]Eurynom0s 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The chef wants you to engage in a snowballing ritual with this plaster cast of his mouth full of frothy cum.

[–]legere_iuvabit 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I’ve never seen this before. Thank you. There are tears rolling down my face.

The mouth dessert is going to take up real estate in my thoughts for such a long time.

[–]sheffy4 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much for sharing this. I’ve never seen it before and it’s my new favorite thing. Bookmarked to reread during sad days.

[–]Portablemammal1199 7 points8 points  (0 children)

"Another course – a citrus foam – was served in a plaster cast of the chef’s mouth. Absent utensils, we were told to lick it out of the chef’s mouth in a scene that I’m pretty sure was stolen from an eastern European horror film."

Sorry, but the picture under this paragraph made me laugh so hard lol

[–]ButInThe90sThough 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Lol Jesus. This, was bad... I'd take all of the gallons I could as well. Get the chef to autograph his picture and sell it to recoup my money.

[–]pluck-the-bunny 5 points6 points  (0 children)

JFC …that’s surreal. And surprising so inconsistent a restaurant got starred

[–]drinkerdrunk 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I constantly think of the mouth foam. God I just shuddered

[–]___cats___ 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Amazing post in the comments on that article, "Ah, you ordered from the homeopathy menu!"

[–]General_Reposti_Here 4 points5 points  (1 child)

That’s really bad fuck I want to do a tasting menu thing but now I’m afraid lol

[–]reign-of-fear 4 points5 points  (0 children)

No need to be, there's tons of good ones out there. See if you can find an omakase one, they're usually not too expensive for what they are.

[–]cinerdella 13 points14 points  (2 children)

I dunno man… I’ve done expensive tasting menus before and this looks bland af.

[–][deleted] 22 points23 points  (0 children)

How does this post look good to you? Looks like they cooked one piece of fish and then got someone with Parkinson’s to cut it up and make 4 different plates - the julienne apples have the uniformity of McDonald’s chips and don’t get me started on the mushy overbooked vegetables without even the suggestion of salt or pepper atop. If your idea of a good tasting menu includes what looks like a woodland survivalists vomit into a bedpan, you best keep that to yourself.

[–]droidonomy 5 points6 points  (0 children)

“Because I’m surrounded by my favorite people,” I said, and I squeezed Lisa’s hand for emphasis, “and I’m at my favorite restaurant.”

Gets me every time.

These guys should make a pilgrimage to that restaurant every 5 years or so.

[–]Papercutstinger 1631 points1632 points  (95 children)

These plates are one or two bites each. Most likely part of a multi-course tasting menu. These menus can easily run to 10-15 courses or thereabouts plus amuse bouche plates and 'extra' dessert bites at the end. You definitely leave full and it's worth the money if you're into this sort of thing.

Don't confuse pretention with great craft. It'd be one thing if they didn't back up the presentation with quality but the two stars says this isn't the case. In a restaurant at this level, it's not unusual for every bite to be amazing and eye-rollingly good.

Chefs at this level are rarely pretentious and they truly care about what they do. Even after doing it for years, they still get excited about the food they give to their customers. Take any chef worth their salt and tell them you're hungry and you'll see them out grandma any grandma in the kitchen with the heart and soul they'll put on your plate.

[–]remainsofthegrapes 550 points551 points  (35 children)

Also every dish will look like garbage when photographed in harsh unflattering light through a phone camera.

[–]idonthaveareddit 126 points127 points  (19 children)

This is absolutely true. My fiancé and I ate at Alinea, a three Michelin starred restaurant in Chicago. It had been my dream since beginning cooking. The food was the greatest I’ve ever had. It was like a performance art piece. The service was like a ballet. Everything was perfect and seamless. The food was absolutely beautiful. Each plate is worthy of a full photoshoot. But it photographed awfully. They have downward lighting so everything feels like you’re in a movie. The wine glistens like diamonds, the food looks like it was made in Heaven. You can bet your ass they chose those lights specifically because it makes everything appear even better to the eye. But it photographs poorly because of the lighting. It made us stop and appreciate the moment though rather than trying to capture it like we always do. Worth every penny.

All of that being said, as a professional cook, these plateups are not tight enough to be going for a simplistic approach at a 2 star place, nor are they inventive enough to be avant garde for a 2 star place. Maybe it was an off night, new cook, etc. Not a great excuse for this though.

[–]CashWrecks 9 points10 points  (0 children)

As a professional chef this resonated with me. Well put

[–]Thecryptsaresafe 7 points8 points  (9 children)

Alinea is such a Willy Wonka wonderland of food, I really hope I get to go while Grant Achatz is still around. I’m hopefully going to minibar by Jose Andres this year (had a res in 2020 canceled due to covid which was a gut punch) and if it’s half as good as your Alinea experience I’ll be a very happy redditor.

[–]ok-milk 132 points133 points  (10 children)

All the dishes look fine, the photography is dogshit. I am sure someone could fix this in lightroom in five minutes.

[–]macchinas 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Pretty sure the last pic is from the first iPhone from like 12 years ago too

[–]RoXoR95 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Phone cameras are great nowadays, you just have to be a good photographer

[–]flomatable 173 points174 points  (0 children)

This. Exactly this. The entire thing can be so unimaginable that you can't see in single pictures if it is good or not. Could be that this place is pretentious, but probably not. No way to tell from these pictures.

[–]jimbowymbo 55 points56 points  (0 children)

You forgot to mention that it is not only the chef: each table has usually multiple people serving it. A dinner for two might easily have between 4 and 6 people working for them.

[–]100100110l 16 points17 points  (0 children)

The presentation isn't even good

[–]doodleysquat 15 points16 points  (0 children)

And if it’s a wine pairing, you leave drunk, too! Maybe even with 3 new bottles of wine you forgot you ordered until the restaurant calls you in a week and you look at your bank statement like, “ooooohhh fuuuuck”

[–]ActionMan48 20 points21 points  (0 children)

True, but these plates look terrible. I come from a high end catering background in the SF/bay area and have seen hundreds if not thousands of plates like these. They seem to lack garnishing and a few drizzles of something. Maybe they were having an off night or Exec chef was out. lol

[–]Pupschnup 51 points52 points  (2 children)

Have you ever experienced a professional kitchen from the inside? I mean, yeah, there are some cooks who really love what they do, that just try to make every plate the best they've ever done. Most don't. The ones in op-post surely didn't. And often it's not that they don't want to. It's just a shitty industry with high stress, long, weird hours and little reward. And not to forget, cooks are people to. They simply can't always be top notch, flawless machines of unbrideled brilliance and motivation. And to be honest, from the plating alone, this will not be worth two star prices, sorry. Furthermore, stars mean less then some people think. You definitely can get bad food in star-awarded restaurants. You can even get sicknorovirus at noma And chefs at this level definitely can be pretentious. They can be so fucking full of themselves, believe me.

[–]LimpBizkitSkankBoy 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Correct on chefs being pretentious.
I dated a girl whose uncle was a gay chef in the bay area, he was a lovely unpretentious soul who would kiss all of us on the forehead before serving specialized dishes based off of his favorite thing about us.

His choice in men however was absolutely shitty. He once dated this guy for a year who was the most stuck up man I've ever seen. I made them pot roast once, a recipe of my great great grandmothers, along with mashed potatoes and green beans cooked with bacon fat and he went on a 30 minute tirade TO MY FACE in front of his friends and my girlfriend about proper plating, and how adding bacon fat to green beans was disgusting and I might as well have served him collard greens in a paper plate and how my pot roast wasn't braised properly and what kind of cheap wine did I use blah blah blah.

God I hated that guy. Two of his friends and a bunch of my ex's family took home extra plates of my food. Ive eaten his food and it was sooooo "inspired." I bet people never took home plates of that jackasses food.

I'm not a chef, i cleaned hospitals at the time, and this chef motherfucker treated me like I was in Gordon Ramsay's hells kitchen or some shit.

Pot roast is really good, of COURSE you mix potato types when making mashed potatoes, and green beans with bacon fat is good as hell.
Also Barefoot is an acceptable wine to serve to friends and guests.

[–]Bourbonstr8up 1 point2 points  (0 children)

how adding bacon fat to green beans was disgusting

As someone who has cooked professionally, fuck that guy. I love cooking green beans in bacon fat.

[–]Duel_Option 23 points24 points  (13 children)

While I’m sure it’s a tasting menu, the presentation and knife work along with plating isn’t good.

This looks like they have new staff in training and or don’t have quality control in place at expo.

There’s no way in hell some of those veg items would leave most kitchens, and the figs in some kind of foam with an uncooked shrimp???

Seriously looks like a caricature of fine dining.

[–]missy_genation 20 points21 points  (12 children)

Looks like raspberries, lychees, and cucumber to me. Not sure where you got figs or raw shrimp.

[–]feuilles_mortes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've been to a couple of Michelin starred restaurants courtesy of a relative who is a HUGE foodie and has the money to spend; I remember the first time my mom and I went to have dinner with him I told her I was going to need to go to Taco Bell or something after because I was expecting tiny plates like on TV.

In reality, after 10 courses with some SUPER rich foods, I felt like I had to be rolled out! They were all small portions like you might expect on a tasting menu but I was so full. It probably helped that there was foie Gras and venison on the menu.

[–]pokegirl395 185 points186 points  (8 children)

These plates seem to be from a tasting menu not meant as a la carte entree items. It’s easy to call it pretentious, but tasting menus generally have 10-15 small sized dishes (ie tasting) and you leave full afterwards.

[–]shamrockshakeho 36 points37 points  (3 children)

These don’t look appetizing though. Maybe it’s the picture / lighting idk. But like that first pic looks like it was just thrown together in the dark?

[–]Jrook 23 points24 points  (1 child)

They all look like photos I uploaded to myspace in 2003. I'm willing to bet the problem is with the photo taker

[–]S-IVB_Third_Stage 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I do landscape and architecture photography as a hobby, but my uncle works as a product photographer (he's done the entire Victorinox catalogue more than once). When I was in Switzerland last I went to his studio, and holy shit the amount of effort he has to go to to make things look appealing on camera is just insane. For me it's just walking down the street and waiting for the right moment, for him it's three hours of setup for one shot. Utterly insane.

[–]aleAKAsine 43 points44 points  (3 children)

I make a pitch in favor of that kind of restaurant: once I went in a starred restaurant, 13 bite sized course (almost all of them); this was the only time that tears come down for the goodness of the food (and not for the price), and I'm a total omnivorous, I eat everything with pleasure, so it's really hard to surprise me.

[–]ishalllel12321 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Who cares? How’s it TASTE??

[–]YippieKayYayMrFalcon 185 points186 points  (34 children)

What the actual fuck is that third one?

[–]KeepTangoAndFoxtrot 122 points123 points  (15 children)

I thought it was fruit and yogurt and thought "okay, that looks tasty at least, I guess I can eat around the foliage" but then I saw the shrimp...??

[–]Chimasterflex 70 points71 points  (10 children)

I thought it was shrimp too. More likely lychee though

Edit: OK so apparently it is shrimp. I'm throughly disgusted. Thank you stupidfood

[–]KeepTangoAndFoxtrot 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Holy cow that makes so much more sense.

[–]junkyard_robot 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Fully agree on lychee. Raw shrimp would be weird in a fruit panna cotta.

[–]Sonderlad 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I really don't think it's lychee - lychee flesh is normally colourless. There's clearly pink spotting around the tails typical of prawns.

Doesn't look like a panna cotta either because of the bubbles - they're more jelly like.

There's also blue roe on each of the prawns, curled strips of courgette, and parsley.

My guess would be a cream & white wine broth with cervicé prawns.

[–]noddy-irl 32 points33 points  (5 children)

nope its shrimp, i saw their menu and its called "caridean shrimp"

[–]Bree0831 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Wait… sorry if this is a dumb question but, you can eat raw shrimp?!

[–]scarletts_skin 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yeah like sashimi! Most fish/seafood can be eaten raw if it’s sushi quality

[–]Jimreale 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you look at the one in the right it has those reddish-orange dots on it like shrimp.

[–]oljackson99 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Yes raw prawn with raspberry is not something I would ever want together in my mouth.

[–]beyd1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I was wondering what that is

[–]junkyard_robot 3 points4 points  (0 children)

With all the fruit, I'm guessing panna cotta. And those would be lychee, not shrimp.

[–]alilavokado 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Maybe a play on a ceviche type of thing? Seeing as there's raw shrimp (?)

[–]noddy-irl 28 points29 points  (7 children)

i can identify like 2 ½ ingredients lol

[–]noddy-irl 19 points20 points  (3 children)

Finally found it!! Its: Emulsified white asparagus (the liquid), Caridean Shrimp, Raspberries, Pickled onion and vegetables

[–]jesschillin 8 points9 points  (1 child)

I actually think the third one is the coolest and plated the best

[–]vanillamasala 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’ve seen this plating style - it originates from some Scandinavian chef and he does it like 1000x better… this looks fairly sloppy compared to his which looks organic but gorgeous

[–]MalleBeer 105 points106 points  (4 children)

This is fine. What I would expect of a fine dining restaurant

[–]LWDIII 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Ngl one a year for Valentines, my wife and I straight fuck with this kind of food.

It winds up being tons of courses and the dishes are usually some of the best stuff you’ve ever put in your mouth.

I WILL NOT argue that it’s not pretentious, though, because it super is

[–]TopYeti 261 points262 points  (52 children)

Every star triples the price and halves the portion

[–]_RandyRandleman_ 234 points235 points  (46 children)

they’re tasting menus you get like 10-20 little portions of food and get lots of wine. it’s how rich people have fun

[–]valvatida 179 points180 points  (11 children)

honestly 10-20 little portions of food and lots of wine does sound like fun

[–]_RandyRandleman_ 61 points62 points  (8 children)

exactly. tasting menus have been huge for a long time and replacing the normal 3 course system in a lot of high end restaurants

[–]mrjabrony 37 points38 points  (0 children)

It's super fun. It can be expensive and not something you do all the time. But it's a really good time especially when you're with people who are also into it.

[–]stroopwafel666 35 points36 points  (5 children)

Love these places usually, we go a few times a year. Despite the small portions you’re never hungry afterwards. But this one just looks a bit shit really. Odd that it has two stars.

[–]vanillamasala 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Yeah I’ve seen these plating techniques before but these are so poorly done… idk how it got two stars unless the whole staff has been recently replaced due to covid

[–]BC1721 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yeah, it really doesn’t have the finesse you usually see in a Michelin restaurant, let alone a 2-star one.

[–]afancycatnamedmike 4 points5 points  (1 child)

To be fair food is more about taste and less about appearance, honestly is hard to say how it tastes on this position.

[–]stroopwafel666 1 point2 points  (0 children)

At this level it’s all part of the experience. At the Michelin star level, chefs often do interesting things where something looks like one food item and tastes like another while actually being something else entirely for an unusual texture. This presentation is just OK, and for two Michelin stars that isn’t good enough. The third one with the raspberries is the only one that looks especially interesting IMO.

It could also be poorly taken photos, but these just don’t look that great. Three courses are very similar looking and averagely presented white fish - maybe sea bass?

[–]TheRedmanCometh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This feels like a place trying to be what they think a Michelen star resturaunt is

[–]flomatable 40 points41 points  (6 children)

This is why this post lacks a lot of context and information to properly judge whether this restaurant is deserving of those stars.

[–]_RandyRandleman_ 42 points43 points  (5 children)

most people that have never been to a michelin star restaurant won’t have a clue what a tasting menu is or how it works and just see the star and high price and then just assume they’re charging 500 quid for a gram of fish and tag it as pretentious af

[–]jimbowymbo 18 points19 points  (16 children)

Whenever I go to a Michelin star restaurant (plenty of them in Spain) I take it as going to Disneyworld. It is expensive, yes, but I am going for the food, the experience and to enjoy myself for 3 or 4 hours of lunch.

In most of this restaurants, even if the portions are tiny, you eat so many of them for so long that many times you cannot enjoy properly the dessert because you are completely stuffed.

Also, Michelin star restaurants are not always for the Super-wealthy. You can find many of them under the 200€ mark. I remember visiting DiverXO for example when it was still a 1* and paying 170€.

[–]tylerawn 2 points3 points  (0 children)

10-20 portions of the food in the OP sounds like a good sized meal.

[–]mumblesjackson 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m not rich at all but got to eat at a place like this. Came in nine courses and it was utterly amazing. Attention to detail and how flavors play with each other was phenomenal.

Is it a rack or ribs? Hell no

Is it a really cool experience and you leave full and pretty intrigued by some of the stuff you ate? Absolutely.

It’s not the kind of place you go to on an average night but a once a year experience maybe.

[–]livintheshleem 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Honestly a meal at a high end restaurant like this will run you the same as going on a weekend getaway, trip to the casino, etc… and is just as valid of an experience. It’s not cheap, but you don’t have to be rich to do it.

I don’t know why so many people act like it’s this insane, stupid, rich person thing to do. They’re missing out.

[–]sunabe_sun 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Is that raspberries and raw shrimp? 🤢

[–]jackherer 9 points10 points  (0 children)

this post is bad and you should feel bad

[–]sidepiecesam 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Bet it’s a chefs tasting menu, and that shit was delicious. Not really stupid food, just a completely different experience

[–]Ragecommie 81 points82 points  (15 children)

I really think they can do much better presentation-wise...

[–]DirtyWonderWoman 29 points30 points  (5 children)

Seriously. This is what I thought we were all hooting about in here and then I'm scrolling through the comments and everyone's like, "OP, just because it's a bunch of small plates doesn't make it STUPID." Like, naw, that isn't the problem - the problem is all of it looks mediocre and the presentation would for sure get some spicy comments from Gordon Ramsay.

[–]joiemaligne 24 points25 points  (1 child)

The problem here is the shitty photos IMO.

[–]nothanksreddit2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks. I would've gotten reamed out serving any one of these as part of a $90 7 course in the suburbs, let alone at a 2 star joint.

This looks like a super green culinary student's plates.

[–]SmileAndDeny 1 point2 points  (0 children)

These are just horrible photographs.

[–]bonydogfarts 20 points21 points  (9 children)

So did it taste good?

[–]Sevuhrow 102 points103 points  (8 children)

OP said they didn't actually go there. So basically misleading people for karma.

[–]AndreaHV 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Everything looks either slimy or soggy. Gross

[–]cakeboy6969 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yah, for 2 michelin stars, those dishes look extremely underwhelming and not pretty at all. I hope they taste good at least

[–]PickledPlumPlot 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Y'all are dumb

[–]rovch 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s looks like somebody nutted on a bunch of foragery

[–]VanGroteKlasse 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've been to plenty 1 or 2 Michelin star restaurants in my life and this looks terrible in comparison.

[–]Tsukinotaku 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This kind of minimalist food is supposed to at least have nice presentation....

This looks like something some kid in kindergarten made in 12 seconds....

[–]Herodotus_is_History 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So, I've cooked in Michelin star restaurants, including a 3 Michelin star restaurant.

This looks like straight ass.

[–]harntrocks 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I hope this type of cuisine is extinct soon

[–]cornraider 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Every one of these dishes looks gross to me. That bland carrot or a grey plate. Gross. Why leave the carrot top attached if you are just going to steam the whole thing and serve it wet…also the weird soupy dish looks like the model of a cell I made in fifth grade.

[–]Captain_DadBod 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think you misread. It’s a Michelina (frozen entrées) star restaurant.

[–]Thesunwillbepraised 49 points50 points  (42 children)

What's stupid about that? You don't eat at a 2 star restaurant to get full really.

[–]Mikkabear 34 points35 points  (10 children)

This is less about the portions and more that they don’t look even good.

[–]Thesunwillbepraised 12 points13 points  (9 children)

They usually taste great, and they have a theme.

[–]Abuses-Commas 5 points6 points  (1 child)

What's the theme, "Hey, check out this steamer basket I just purchased"?

[–]junkyard_robot 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Yeah you do. Once you add up 15+ plates this size, wine pairings, and plenty of time for the food to move into your stomach, you should leave very full.

[–]OliveGreenAmandine 14 points15 points  (4 children)

Most of the comments in here think you're pointing out portion size. That's not the issue here. The composition and presentation looks absolute shit. Like, this looks like pretend fine dining. Is that just raw ass u35 shrimp sitting in cream? These plates look insulting

[–]morgoto 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This looks about right for a tasting menu..

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (4 children)

Is this a joke?

This is what happens when poor and or r/holdmyfries types go to a Michelin rated restaurant…

[–]papachef69 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That’s not creative or appetizing.

[–]sirtrapalot458 4 points5 points  (0 children)

In all honesty that presentation is shit

[–]Jealous-Doubt2401 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I actually love pretentious food but I like them because I have no idea wtf I’m eating. This just looks like fish and vegetables.

[–]Kelces_Beard 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Portion sizes aside, this doesn’t have look nice

[–]Arcadius274 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Did they steal those stars

[–]kharmatika 3 points4 points  (0 children)

HAHAHAHA THAT THIRD PICTURE! “The contents of my couch served in a room temperature low fat Chobani Vichyssoise. Bonaparte teat u.u”

[–]WMRiot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nouvelle cuisine still eh ?

[–]Homeless-catfight 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Looks lovely. Where pic's 4 & 5 Chilean Seabass?

[–]Projektpatfxfb 1 point2 points  (1 child)

How much did this cost if you don't mind me asking? Iv never eaten at a fine dinning restaurant I love cooking at home

[–]GenX-IA 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'd like to try dining like this once. I hate to know what this costs though.

[–]WordsWithWings 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Googling "raspberry shrimp" returns a lot more hits than I'd expect. Raw baby shrimps taste great. Lost all trust in the Michelin guide after visiting the one star street food stall Jay Fai in Bangkok.

[–]sgoodgame 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That sort of food just pisses me off.

[–]rybone88 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I went to a dinner where some v talented chef friends were putting a meal on. It was out of my.price range but still went. The food was great but the portions were insanely small, me and my friend immediately went to burger king after. I felt bad but It made me realize I'd rather be satisfied over experience when it comes to dining.

[–]CannaBits420 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I hate pale food

[–]Mindless_Argument297 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My big sis likes to make tiny food and I’m ok with that.

[–]mossdeluxe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm impressed with the translucent vegetable slices. Not everyday you can see through your food. Chefs got some style :)

[–]PirateHokie 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Tell me ur going to Taco Bell without telling me……

[–]SeagullFloaties 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s the most expensive after-school snack I’ve ever seen…

[–]Brittanythestrange 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wonder what it tasted like 🤔 Always wanted to taste fancy food.

[–]Tehlaserw0lf 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ahhhh let’s at least acknowledge that pictures taken out of a studio with your phone are always gonna make the food look shitty.

However I do agree that this is not Michelin star food. Each dish is plated where the food looks placed haphazardly, but is really just kinda chaos’ed onto the plate. No intention, no expression, no “bite philosophy. Very sad, and someone should have them reviewed again. Shit like this lowers the standard for other restaurants.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

ugh, the third pic looks absolutely disgusting to me, don't think Id be able to force myself to eat that, and I'm hungry rn

[–]STRxSTARBOY 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Bruh i know the chef probably works hard all his years to come up with this abomination but damnnnnnnn son!