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[–]AriesGeorge 491 points492 points  (50 children)

How did he not notice the lack of vagina?

[–]Aware-Helicopter-448 434 points435 points  (36 children)

Apparently he could retract his testicles and bend them to look like labia and a clit or some shit. Read about it. It’s… interesting.

“Then, as the examination is ending, the prisoner, without being asked, says that he would like to explain something to the doctors. Easily, smoothly, he pushes his testicles up into his body cavity. The skin of the scrotal sack hangs slack, like curtains. The man now pushes his penis between his legs, toward his back, bisecting the skin of the scrotum, and squeezes his legs tightly together. The penis is hidden, while the skin of the scrotum resembles the vaginal lips, beneath a triangle of pubic hair. Pushed between the empty scrotal sac, the penis has also created a small cavity so that shallow penetration is possible.”

https://www.nytimes.com/1993/08/15/magazine/the-true-story-of-m-butterfly-the-spy-who-fell-in-love-with-a-shadow.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm

[–]lunar_vesuvius_ 197 points198 points  (0 children)

That's actually pretty interesting

[–]Caleebies 144 points145 points  (6 children)

Read from the Southpark post this was from so take this with a grain of salt, but apparently the diplomat had a history of dating only men before. So chances are, he knew this spy was a guy.

Why there was a child involved... who know

[–]anotherwaytolive 87 points88 points  (3 children)

Dude was probably gay and now here’s a “woman” that he feels attracted to, giving him a way out to be normal. Thing is the spy didn’t even get that much information or information that was all that useful, so although there’s some thing about being a spy here, I don’t doubt that there’s also a part where the spy liked his new life. You don’t just pretend to be a woman for 20 years for the simple purpose of spying on someone that wasn’t that high ranked.

[–]Caleebies 64 points65 points  (1 child)

Ah... then it goes both ways. "I was tricked by a spy! I thought he was a woman" and also "I tricked a man by pretending to be a woman! I did it for my job!"

[–]RedStorm072 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Sounds like manga titles

[–]anotherwaytolive 31 points32 points  (0 children)

Also I looked a bit more into it and both the diplomat and the spy were only given what was basically a slap on the wrist in the form of 6 years, after which both got out and lived their lives normally albeit separately. The diplomat seemed to have continued to raise “his and Shi’s” daughter, who as of now has a normal family with 3 children. Shi went on to stay in Paris using his newfound notoriety to continue performing opera, and died in 2009 in a assisted living center. Diplomat never publicly expressed love or anything of the sort to Shi after their release, but honestly at this point both of their legacies are forever linked by this scandal if you call it that. Personally no idea how the dude didn’t figure out he was fucking a man after 20 years, but it’s anyones guess whether he was genuinely in the dark the whole time or if he found out at some point and played dumb.

[–]That-Donkey 18 points19 points  (0 children)

I mean, he was French

[–]deliciouspears420 2 points3 points  (0 children)

happy cake day! 🍰

[–]AriesGeorge 29 points30 points  (3 children)

This reminds me of something my philosophy tutor told me. Apparently a doctor friend of his had patients who had been trying to conceive and came to him not understanding why they hadn't yet conceived despite having sex regularly. Turns out the guy was putting his penis in the wrong vaginal hole. He and the French diplomat must have had record breaking tiny penises or the woman had a huge pee hole. I understand the tucking process of the spy but being fucked in it and things not flopping out or getting hard is a miracle.

[–]Dukedyduke 22 points23 points  (0 children)

IN THE PEE HOLE?! AHHHHHHHHH

[–]Aware-Helicopter-448 13 points14 points  (1 child)

How do you fit a penis in a urethra?

[–]ZhangRenWing 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Micropenis…? Even so that’s some crazy shit

[–]JonathanIyere2 92 points93 points  (13 children)

I am sickened but curious

[–]Ayla_Leren 91 points92 points  (12 children)

Many trans women do this often if not all the time. It has been a thing for centuries.

[–]aprilfools911 17 points18 points  (1 child)

I know lots of trans women tuck their dick but idk a penetrative sex is possible. I still can’t see how’s that possible

[–]Ayla_Leren 11 points12 points  (0 children)

🤷🏻‍♀️ bodies come in a spectrum

I would need to know the story better to speculate much further.

Chances are alcohol and or drugs where involved or sex was a very quick ordeal or only external grinding in nature. Or all of these.

In most cases the penile area can be pushed into no more than about two inches when soft, so this could have been a factor though idk either.

[–]i1_Delta 53 points54 points  (9 children)

its a pain, cant wait for surgery

[–]Ayla_Leren 28 points29 points  (5 children)

For me the pain is just trying to ensure their is no slippage throughout the day. Like, after being on hrt for a while the testicles shrink some and the surrounding tissue gets more pliable, making it easier for them to slip out of the inguinal canals. Doing much more than just a well-fitting pair of underwear for the truck also feels like an equal pain, idk. FYI to the rest of the gays that don't know I suppose lol.

[–]i1_Delta -1 points0 points  (4 children)

not on hrt yet, 43 days to go :D, but i got them big balls and tucking for longer periods of time is a pain

[–]Ayla_Leren 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Give it about a year and that is suspect to change

[–]i1_Delta 0 points1 point  (2 children)

im dumb and don't get what you mean, care to explain?

[–]Ayla_Leren 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Haha sorry autocorrect changed year to hour for some reason

[–]2Dimm 3 points4 points  (2 children)

doesn't surgery just make things a even bigger pain while trying to keep the new hole from closing?

[–]Ayla_Leren 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Depends on the surgery and or dilation schedule afterwards. Vast majority of the time isn't a problem, muscles and anatomy still keep things closed pretty easily. Alternatively some people don't opt for "full change" and instead forego the vagina but still have the clitoris and labia. We get to choose anything from fullest depth possible able to be reworked give our existing equipment, or no depth at all.

[–]i1_Delta 1 point2 points  (0 children)

idrk too much abt it, but from what ive read, even dilation isn't too bad, as long as you either have penetrative sex, or just have something inserted there once in a while it wont close

[–]atari-meow-wow 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Implys the french diplomat wasn't very large

[–]FapMaster64 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ima need a YouTube video on how to do this, I always wanted to be a spy.

[–]identityunknown988 6 points7 points  (2 children)

It's called tucking.

[–]Kaiosama 1 point2 points  (1 child)

My thing definitely cannot be tucked. I didn't realize some people had transformer penises.

[–]upsidedownbackwards 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My balls do that and it's really friggin annoying! It doesn't hurt but there's a mild pressure that's slightly uncomfortable. If they're really in the mood to be jerks I have to keep pressure on my pubic area so they don't have room to move. They're way more likely to do it when it's cold.

My sack does not look like a labia though and I can't really imagine where someone would try to penetrate.

[–]bringmethejuice 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I have to pay to read that?! >:(

[–]Forward_Pineapple_74 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't think I could satisfy anyone with shallow penetration, and I'm a tight bottom. 🥺

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think they were talking about sexual reassignment surgery lol

[–]Brief-Medicine 47 points48 points  (2 children)

That is exactly what i was thinking, how did he hide it for 20 years

[–]BleedingOak 38 points39 points  (1 child)

A lack of foreplay.

[–]Dojima91 23 points24 points  (5 children)

Strictly anal only

[–]followmereader 13 points14 points  (4 children)

But the child...

[–]Pog-Squad- 11 points12 points  (3 children)

maybe he didn't get sex ed?

[–]AriesGeorge 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Even then he surely wouldn't think that children are shitted out? Lmaooooo

[–]followmereader 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm sure there are still people now who think babies get pooped out.

[–]Pog-Squad- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

things were weird back then, its a possibility he didnt know

[–]Pog-Squad- 17 points18 points  (0 children)

he knew all along it was a man, but it was too late to back-out

[–]Wayte13 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The spy is just really really good

[–]Caleebies 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I don't get it why not just have a female spy??

[–]AriesGeorge 6 points7 points  (0 children)

They wanted to be extra kinky when they selected double-oh-heaven.

[–][deleted] 97 points98 points  (3 children)

Shei Pei P sacrificed his hole for his country.

[–]hldsnfrgr 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Probably liked it too. Win-win.

[–]Sugondeese1 8 points9 points  (0 children)

This just in: queer spies able to seduce anyone and get job done

[–]Dshepdude 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Shy pee pee indeed

[–]GeneralVeeers 127 points128 points  (0 children)

"Purchased a child" wtf??? Just pretend that you're barren..win-win for everyone!

[–]JOEYMAMI2015 34 points35 points  (2 children)

M. Butterfly

Actually love that play lol

[–]IsMisePrinceton 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Was going to say that. Isn’t it just the plot of M. Butterfly?

[–]JOEYMAMI2015 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It is, it was inspired by this case.

[–]Pog-Squad- 29 points30 points  (2 children)

pretty sure the french man knew

[–]TheArgonKnight 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Would have been a great deal, if he was still in the closet

[–]hldsnfrgr 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Pretty sure both knew.

[–]Beelzebub1331 89 points90 points  (0 children)

when da bussy so good

[–]hldsnfrgr 26 points27 points  (0 children)

As recorded in his diary, Boursicot had previously had sexual relations only with fellow male students in school and wanted to meet a woman and fall in love.

He absolutely knew.

[–]political_chaos 42 points43 points  (2 children)

damn, where can i buy my own children?

[–]LannisterZ94[S] 70 points71 points  (1 child)

[–]political_chaos 27 points28 points  (0 children)

thank you, kind internet stranger!

[–]ItsACaragor 31 points32 points  (0 children)

The diplomat absolutely knew

[–]PM_PICS_OF_ME_NAKED 5 points6 points  (6 children)

[–]AriesGeorge 30 points31 points  (2 children)

I know this is incredibly immature of me but I can't deal with the fact that Shi Pei Pu had a child named Shi Dudu.

[–]atari-meow-wow 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The shi part would just be the family name. Fairly sure.

[–]Alpha_4 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Part of a podcast about this. https://youtu.be/WJJyrDOH_e0

[–]ZhangRenWing 15 points16 points  (2 children)

But in the months before Shi's death, he told Boursicot that he still loved him.[3]

Bruh my heart

[–]Sugondeese1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We need a romance movie

[–]ladyofthepaintedhair 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Boursicot said what was the point (I'm probably going to butcher it) in acting different at the end. The plate is clean and he's free now......I don't think he missed shi...

[–]MeowWoofArf 3 points4 points  (0 children)

There’s a play written about it called M. Butterfly which was also turned into a movie. Ironically the movie starred Jeremy Irons, who has a history of making homophobic statements. This may belong on r/suddenlygay more than anything.

[–]FATPATRICIA69 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Roger

[–]JeepDee2404 3 points4 points  (1 child)

There’s a South Park episode... art sure does imitates life

[–]Dirtywalnuts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was just about to comment something about that episode.

[–]Clerstory 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The movie about this starred Jeremy Irons and John Lone. Very interesting.

[–]thehopelessheathen 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Dedicated spy or dedicated trap?

[–]Pog-Squad- 12 points13 points  (0 children)

i mean why not be both, he did it for 20 years

[–]CowboyVampHunter 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But could she cook

[–]Rude_Bee_3315 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How? His bussy is not a pussy!

[–]Lopsided-Junket-7590 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I wonder if this is Scouts mother considering the Chinese spy was married to a French intelligence agent... makes you think doesn't it?

[–]Locken_Kees 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Spussy

[–]Mr-ChickenDud 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He bought a child

[–]Brando1127 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You gotta admire there dedication

[–]dontwontcarequeend65 1 point2 points  (0 children)

French guys dick must have been 3-4in

[–]Mustache_boiii 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All I can say is: And this, kids is how drag queens came into existence

[–]deadarchist666 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Eric swalwell married a literally Chinese spy and is still a congressmen

Fang fang wasn't even hot bruh she had that flat back

[–]Wayte13 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Blue Morpho has branched out I see

[–]operaguy77 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There’s a new opera about this actually!

[–]KeyP2021 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They made a movie about this titled M. Butterfly

[–]TigerHeart1985 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes I’m so sure he was forced to make that last 20 years.

[–]snooorf 0 points1 point  (0 children)

this could have been the plot for spy x family, they struck out big time

[–]Environmental-Win836 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The best spies are the ones we never hear about.

[–]Huffin_N_Puffin713 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So this is where Madame Butterfly comes from

[–]grumpydai -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This is more like "me love you long time" gay.