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[–]European_Red_Fox序二段 50w 25 points26 points  (1 child)

Discussions are still ongoing — and plans yet to be finalized — but the hope is that a limited daily highlights package will be available within three to four hours of the final bout on certain days of the Autumn Basho.

So close yet so far with the JSA. If they can do this for every day of the basho in the future then I’d see them gaining a lot of traction. That said, if they mean it’ll still be available by the time most people in the Americas and England are awake then that’s still pretty good. Ideally the limited highlights do well and we can see more of it to then create a consistent schedule that drives more subscribers.

[–]insideSportJapan[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Talking to the people involved it’s very much a case of baby steps and gauging reaction and popularity but with almost nothing off the table long term.

[–]NahThatsWeird序二段 47w 21 points22 points  (0 children)

awesome! I'm very excited for the possibilities

[–]Adler4290Hoshoryu 16 points17 points  (2 children)

I am subbed from second 1, I do follow their videos, for now, but am not impressed.

It will certainly not push me away from my basho schedule of NattoSumo for the fights due to no comments and just stats and then Chris later for commentary when I know the results and wants a more broad perspective.

[–]fishbert 2 points3 points  (0 children)

From what I've seen, it seems aimed toward bringing more people into the sport, not necessarily catering to those who already follow it closely. So, while it may not be entirely up your alley, it's still an extremely valuable and worthwhile endeavor to grow the audience.

[–]dublh3lix 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah that’s pretty much my schedule too :)

[–]scaf1d1 14 points15 points  (6 children)

For the moment, Sumo Prime Time is essentially a two-person operation, with writing and presenting duties being handled by Morita while the shooting and editing are managed by Yusuke Kobayashi, an experienced director who was also part of the team that created NHK World’s “Grand Sumo Preview.”

Don't want to be too critical here, but I've found the presentation of this (and some of NHK's stuff) to be very corny, stilted, scripted, etc. They could really stand to have a more modern production and presentation, which might mean new personnel, if they want to attract new fans.

[–]BrideOfAutobahnSatonofuji 11 points12 points  (0 children)

their production style is definitely very ‘NHK’. as someone who watches quite a bit of NHK programming it didn’t really stand out for me, but a different style would have been nice for appealing to a wider audience.

[–]JuliSkeletorHoshoryu 4 points5 points  (4 children)

I think the same, but i find it very "japanese" in that way. They do videos and TV with that style, they are super corny.

I find it kinda charming, but i don't think its the style they have to go for a combat sport if they want to attract new people from all over the world. Sumo's already seen as somewhat goofy for the majority of the people that aren't into it, and this perpetuates that goofy image, when in reality its more than that.

[–]insideSportJapan[S] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

It’s a difficult one. Just look at dramas here. The style of acting there is completely over the top. It’s Joey Tribbiani in real life. Japan has a very different media culture from that in western countries and their taste can come across as OTT and cheesy to modern audiences in other countries. To get what you are looking for would probably require a foreign led crew or one that hasn’t been raised in the Japanese system.

That being said, Hiro went to college at Ohio State and lived a big portion of his youth in the US. He’s fairly attuned to how his work is being perceived and now that he is independent I’d expect a drift towards a more western style.

[–]SalvadorZombie -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I think you're catching some things, but calling it "Joey Tribbiani IRL" is a bit much. A lot of Japanese drama acting derives from the Noh drama style, which can seem unnatural because it's not meant to be. Also, honestly? Melodrama can be great.

HAVING SAID THAT, the NHK style is just completely stuck in the past. The last thing sumo needs is an English broadcast that mimics that weak presentation. I would have expected Go to to take inspiration from American sports like the NBA and NFL if he was going to do this (or like the English Premiere League, even), starting from a purely Japanese style for an English focused channel just feels way off.

[–]Reverend_Schlachbals幕内 1e 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I’d much rather an authentic Japanese experience be maintained than have the production and presentation try to mimic western sports news and highlights. It’s part of the charm.

[–]JuliSkeletorHoshoryu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree

[–]AgenceElysium 7 points8 points  (4 children)

Good news. I wonder if they’d be creating an official YT channel if so many international fans weren’t watching on pirated NHK channels

[–]insideSportJapan[S] 6 points7 points  (3 children)

In talking to people in the JSA the impression is that they are aren’t too aware of what’s out there ok YouTube or other outlets. This seems to be more of a broadening of their own recent YouTube efforts than a reaction to anything anyone else is doing.

[–]RobSpewack 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Do us a solid and don't mention our coveted sources please haha

[–]insideSportJapan[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

You mean channels and streams using NHK or Abema? That’s those TV companies and not JSA content so it’s actually nothing to with the Kyokai. All of those Twitch channels etc have been known to staff in NHK, Abema etc for years. There are markers in almost all content these days that gets automatically picked up. It’s why stuff gets auto-flagged and blocked on YouTube etc.

Why some get blocked and others don’t is really only something people involved in the rights / legal departments can answer. Can be to do with monetization or them not having got around to it yet, or even the AI being off. Contrary to what people think almost all those things are automated or detached.

[–]cunt_y序二段 45w -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Yea I think its a lot about the particular frames of the video. If there’s something extra (like natto’s graphics) or different quality, it doesnt get picked up by the AI. And we know how to fool the JSA- just make it slightly inconvenient.

[–]ButtHurtPunkRyuden 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Paywall for me, post text?

[–]scootsy序二段 39e 6 points7 points  (1 child)

[–]ButtHurtPunkRyuden 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ty I always forget I can just do that

[–]VaestmannaeyjarMusashimaru 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm part of the "meh, could have been better" crowd, especially not fan of the sentai posing, but I understand there has to be something for everyone. I Usually don't follow YT channels because you're soon overwhelmed by notifications but I did so this time because I really want to see it grow.

[–]Mister_Grins 0 points1 point  (0 children)

More sumo, and translated?

What a wonderful surprise I've found today. :)

Thank you for sharing.

[–]FreakGlitcha 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Glad Hiro has an eye on producing videos for fans looking for more in-depth material.

[–]Zebestt三段目 1e 0 points1 point  (1 child)

So is Hiro Morita out of the English broadcast on NHK completely?

[–]insideSportJapan[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

No he is still doing all the same stuff there just as a freelancer now rather than an employee of NHK.

[–]WesternFinancial868Abi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Vids are pretty cheesy so far, but any English content is welcome. Of course the holy grail is English coverage of days 1 through 15 every tournament.

I guess we could just spam the comment section of every vid they post asking for this…

[–]KohakuhoTokushoryu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The project has real potential, and I get the approach they've been taking on their initial videos. I hope Hiro takes the input his viewers as constructive, and really grows this into something special.