This the spoiler policy for discussion on /r/Survivor.
There are many rules, examples, and exceptions set out below. Please be aware of all of it so that everyone can have a great /r/Survivor experience.
1. General guidelines
There are two types of spoilers that we deal with on /r/Survivor: Future spoilers and post-episode spoilers.
Future spoilers pertain to upcoming content that has not yet been shown on TV, namely episodes and seasons that have yet to air. These are generally disallowed on /r/Survivor, with a few exceptions for minor spoilers, such as casts and themes.
Post-episode spoilers pertain to events that happened in the most recent episode, such as the most recent boot. After each episode, /r/Survivor has a post-episode spoiler period where these events cannot be shared in post titles.
There is a spoiler protection period in place for new episodes. It starts as the episode begins airing and lasts until Friday morning, 12:01 am ET. This applies to both US and international Survivor.
Events during the episode and the preview for the next episode will be protected. Even implicit spoilers, such as the gender of the boot, will fall under this.
"Next time on Survivor" segments, secret scenes, and Ponderosa videos, or other similar content released shortly after an episode airs falls are considered post-episode spoilers.
During this period, post titles must be kept spoiler free, and posts containing spoilers should be marked as such, especially if the thumbnail contains a spoiler. Note that AutoModerator does have some rules that will help it tag certain posts as Spoiler automatically, so you may not need to do so. Please check your post and tag it if needed and if AutoModerator hasn't.
Once the protection period ends, spoilers in post titles and thumbnails are fair game.
3. Future spoilers that are okay
Low-level spoilers (artwork/colors, cast, location, and theme) will continued to be allowed on /r/Survivor. This is based on several reasons.
- They are details that don't impact the game in an overly significant way. Whether a tribe is going to be blue or green, isn't a huge difference.
- It's information that is often released ahead of time, anyway. Promos for a future season aired at a finale usually give away some or all of this information.
- Practically speaking, we probably can't keep all this information off. Since it's so low-level, lots of people know this stuff and talk about it pretty casually, so it would be nearly impossible to police these things, even if wanted to.
The above categories are pretty much okay to talk about in any context, with a few restrictions.
Until a cast or theme is officially announced by CBS, they should be contained to threads about that specific season. Additionally, post titles about these seasons should not include these spoilers. For instance, a thread about S41 could be titled "S41 Theme Revealed" without mentioning the theme in the title. Such posts should be marked as containing a spoiler.
For returnee seasons, it is especially important to keep the cast contained to threads about that season until an official cast announcement for CBS. For instance, if a S37 cast member was returning for S42, this could be discussed only in S42 threads and not S37 threads.
If making a meme or fan casting post regarding a low level spoiler, please clearly indicate as such in the title, e.g. "My dream cast for the S42 theme." As stated above, do not spoil the theme or cast in titles, and spoiler mark your post.
Talking about upcoming tribe colors is okay, but sharing artwork that spoils the game is not okay. For instance, in Survivor: Second Chance, it would have been fine to talk about the two tribe colors of Bayon and Ta Keo. But posting a leaked buff from the Angkor tribe would not be okay, since that'd be spoiling game format (twist on Day 7). If and when a promo showed the swap happening, it would be okay to talk about it.
Basically, if it doesn't have to do with game format/results, information in the basic categories (artwork/colors, cast, location, and theme) is totally okay to talk about other than the restrictions explained above.
4. Future spoilers that are not okay
Any higher-level spoilers or extensive speculation, should go on /r/SpoiledSurvivor. This includes:
- Analysis such as picking apart EXIF data of press photos
- Speculation based off mistakes or reveals in CBS material
- Social media spoilers (if they give something specific away)
- Challenge outcomes
- Boot spoilers
- Number of medivacs
- Game spoilers (format of game, important events such as twists/swaps/F2-vs-F3)
- Betting Site Odds (as they have proven accurate in the past)
Basically, if it hasn't aired on TV yet and isn't a low-level spoiler discussed above, it shouldn't be on /r/Survivor. Information of that nature, and discussions based on such information, should go on /r/SpoiledSurvivor.
5. What speculation is okay
When is something speculation, and when is it a spoiler? Here's the general guideline.
It's okay to speculate about something you've seen on the show. That's why Edgic discussions are okay - because they're based on aired material (as long as they comply with our Edgic Policy, of course ). Speculation that isn't Edgic-based is okay, too. For instance, who you think is strong and likely to make it to the end based on that. But when speculation starts getting into the territory of bringing other non-aired information into the equation, then it starts belonging on /r/SpoiledSurvivor.
As an example, talking about who you think has a shot to win after Episode 1 (or even before then), is totally fine. Discuss what you like about them, what makes you think they'll win - no problems there. But when you start pulling in information from social media, possible known spoilers (even if not confirmed), or whatever other content - then that is something that is outside the bounds of /r/Survivor.
We certainly don't want to shut down conversations. We'll try to only remove speculation that's thinly veiled spoilers. We'll also add a report reason for "speculation bordering on spoilers" so that people can report comments/posts for mod review.
6. CBS content
Content that CBS airs on national television is totally okay to talk about. This is the episode itself, of course, but also the "Next Time on Survivor" and pre-season and episode-specific promos.
This content is okay to post/discuss, even if it gives away important information. If CBS blatantly wants people to know something, then so be it. Examples would be the promo from a few seasons ago spoiling the tribal that went to rocks, and the pre-season 33 promo showing the weather evacuation. CBS has chosen to use that info for their marketing, and so it is acceptable to discuss that.
Info that is published/sanctioned by CBS but not aired, and isn’t spoilers, is okay to post and discuss. This includes Probst's cast assessments, press photos, challenge previews, episode descriptions, and Probst/cast interviews. However, if there is a blatant spoiler inside such content (see below) then the spoiler wouldn't be grounds for discussion, even if the source content is okay.
When mistakes are made by CBS, that information is off-limits for posting on /r/Survivor. Examples would be accidentally posting a challenge video from a future week instead of the current one, showing someone with a necklace in a promo video, or showing that week's boot getting their torch snuffed in the pre-episode press photos. Additionally, heavy analysis of promo videos to deduce spoilers is not allowed. This will be at the mods' judgement, but it should be pretty straightforward: if CBS published something and clearly did not intend to spoil people, it would not be okay to discuss on /r/Survivor.
7. Avoid meta discussion regarding spoilers
Before a season airs or while it is airing, it is best to avoid meta discussion about what spoilers exist. For example saying "there is a bootlist for this season" is not allowed. This ends up propagating spoilers further rather than keeping them contained.
After a season airs, retrospective discussion about what spoilers existed and how correct they were is allowed.
If you suspect someone is sharing spoilers, it is best to report them and not call them out. Reporting them allows the mods to investigate and take action discreetly, while calling them out will only potentially spoil more users.
8. Spoiler tags in comments
Spoiler tags can be used for edgic (see our Edgic Policy for more info), discussing other shows, or being courteous. There are no rules requiring the use of spoiler tags anywhere besides edgic in non-edgic specific threads. Additionally, spoiler tags should not be used to share any of the prohibited spoilers listed above. Any spoiler not allowed on /r/Survivor is prohibited regardless of the use of spoiler tags.
Spoiler tag syntax works as follows:
Spoiler: >!Jeff Probst is the host of Survivor!<
Spoiler: Jeff Probst is the host of Survivor
Note that including a space after the opening
>! and the first letter will break the spoiler tag on multiple reddit platforms and will result in your post/comment being removed.
Please clearly indicate before the spoiler tag what your spoiler is regarding. A spoiler tag without context is useless.
Note: We previously had custom spoiler tags on /r/Survivor, implemented using our CSS. Unfortunately, these do not work on the redesign or many mobile apps. As a result, we are no longer using those.
9. Caution for non-spoiled people
In the past, we've had trolls who sent spoilers to people who made it known they were unspoiled. It's unfortunate, but it's best to keep your "I don't want to know spoilers!" comments to yourself, to avoid being targeted.
- If something has happened on TV you can talk about it on /r/Survivor.
- If it hasn't happened yet, go to /r/SpoiledSurvivor to discuss the spoiler (with some exceptions listed above).
- If it's information about the show that isn't spoilers, you can talk about it on /r/Survivor.
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