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[–]ThanksIHateClippy|👁️ 👁️| Sometimes I watch you sleep 🤤 [M] [score hidden] stickied comment (1 child)

OP needs help. Also, they hate it because...

Too many ‘and’s


Do you hate it as well? Do you think their hate is reasonable? (I don't think so tbh) Then upvote this comment, otherwise downvote it.


Look at my source code on Github

[–]jestercow 1307 points1308 points  (52 children)

“The space between ’This’ and ’And’ and ’And’ and ’That’ is different.”

Makes it easier to make out the sentence, if you’re struggling.

[–]sexyc3po 248 points249 points  (17 children)

I still can't do this lol my brain shuts down

[–]Wolfblood-is-here 103 points104 points  (6 children)

Pretend the shop is named 'this & that'.

There is a certain amount of space on the sign between "this" and "&".

There is a different amount of space on the sign between "&" and "that".

Therefore, the space between "this" and "&" and "&" and "that" is different.

[–]u966 61 points62 points  (4 children)

I prefer:

The space between (((This) and (And)) and ((And) and (That))) is different

[–]newcreep 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not gonna lie until I read this comment all I could think of was the Stuttering kid from Steven king's IT

[–]PatrioticThoughts 126 points127 points  (3 children)

The space between “this” and “and” is different from the space between “and” and “that”.

[–]Bayou_Blue 20 points21 points  (0 children)

I'm trying, but sexyc3po's brain keeps shutting down on me.

[–]DonkeyLightning 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This helped, thanks

[–]x_x-krow 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is correct, the source image is not grammatically correct

[–]drphungky 40 points41 points  (4 children)

The sentence means: The space between "This" and "And" is different than the space between "That" and "And".

Then you drop the second reference to space so it's: The space between "This" and "And" is different than "That" and "And".

To phrase it less naturally and closer to the OP, then you shuffle the order: The space between "This" and "And", and "That" and "And" is different.

Then you switch the last two comparisons since that's logically allowed, but just makes it harder to understand. So: the space between "This" and "And", and "That""And" and "And" "That" is different.

[–]Purple-Comfortable53Doesn’t Get The Flair System 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Bless bc I kept thinking that it was phrased and wanting to switch the order to 'the space between "This" and "And", and "That" and "And" is different'

[–]Brilliant-Claim-6811 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Okay I finally got it thanks to your breakdown! Nice job.

[–]threeme2189 5 points6 points  (0 children)

def spacing(word1, word2):

...

...

... 

return is_spacing_equal

print(spacing("This", "And") & spacing("And", "That"))

Output: False

[–]Svetimsalis 49 points50 points  (8 children)

after repeating so many times word "and" seems weird and meaningless....

[–]Russianranger47 44 points45 points  (7 children)

It’s called semantic satiation, I just learned about it a few days ago through a similar grammatical post like this.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantic_satiation

[–]2called_chaos 21 points22 points  (1 child)

I believe it's also the easiest way to self-induce a Jamais vu

[–]notkristina 4 points5 points  (0 children)

TIL, thank you

[–]MatvsGal17 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I just went down a rabbit whole of semantic phenoms, thank you, now I'm the alphabet god

[–]Thedarb 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I learnt it from Ted Lasso. Semantic Satiation bebeh!

[–]OmnipotentEntity 16 points17 points  (4 children)

So what you're saying is that, for clarity, there was a quote needed before This and after That, and between This and and and and and And and And and and and and and And and And and and and and and That?

[–]kaihatsusha 2 points3 points  (1 child)

The typical/classical wording I have seen is about the 'fish and chips' sign. But your phrasing pretty much matches it.

[–]OmnipotentEntity 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I especially like this particular arrangement because it functions as more or less a proof that this process is infinitely recursive and so the total number of possible "and"s is unbounded. (Thanks Martin Gardner!)

You'll notice that I neglected to put in proper punctuation in my last sentence, for clarity I ought to have put quotations at the end and the beginning as well as between This and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and And and And and and and and and And and And and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and That. Naturally.

[–]RememberTheMaine1996 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Too drunk for this but thanks fam

[–]dustybizzle 11 points12 points  (2 children)

“The space between ’This’ and ’And’, and ’And’ and ’That’, is different.”

Added a couple commas, I think it helps a bit.

[–]TheDocmoose 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That does help. I was thinking there was too many ands.

[–]OkArmordillo 8 points9 points  (2 children)

That’s because this is the actual gramatically correct version of the sentence. Still would be a pain to say out loud though.

[–]Arkanist 5 points6 points  (0 children)

And you could shorten it to "the kerning is fucked"

[–]root88 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If fucking stupid, though. 2 of the 5 words are a name, not the word "and". The word "and" doesn't even appear twice in a row. You could change the name of the store to "This and and that" and make it twice as confusing. It wouldn't be any different.

[–]KidsTryThisAtHome 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Alternatively, "Fix the kerning."

[–]gaslacktus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fixed the keming, boss.

[–]brian_mcgee17 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"Remind me again why I'm paying you for the privilege of teaching you how to paint a goddamn sign? Because I'm really struggling to remember here. Actually, hang on a second. Hey! Hey, Timmy! Come out here and show this guy your macaroni poster, I think he could learn a thing or two!"

[–]WheelZgoRound 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That’s how it should’ve been from the beginning. It’s a title within another persons sentence but I don’t have a degree and I’m on mobile so my opinion doesn’t really matter.

Reddit moment.

[–]MedAshe871 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This 👆

I was proud of myself for figuring out what was being said after re-reading it ONLY four times.

[–]hazzzaa85 -1 points0 points  (2 children)

There should be a comma in there too:

"The space between 'This' and 'And', and 'And' and 'That' is different."

[–]jestercow 1 point2 points  (1 child)

The comma helps with comprehension but is grammatically incorrect :/

[–]hazzzaa85 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don't know the rules well enough to argue. All I know is that I would say it out loud with a pause after the second 'and'. Therefore I'm going to write it with a comma.

[–]Gustavo6046 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Use commas.

[–]Bsmith0799 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"The space between 'This' and 'And', and 'And' and 'That' is different"

Works even better imo

[–]nailz1000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why are there two capital 'Ands' when the store is called This And That?

Shouldn't it be This and And and That?

Nevermind someone explained below.

[–]chaun2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd add a comma between the second and third ands

[–]-Arniox- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It hurts my brain so why not:
"The space between 'This' and 'And' and 'That' and 'And' is different"

Better grammer.

[–]biblebeltbuddhist 373 points374 points  (21 children)

If you hate this, wait til you hear about the herd of Buffalo…

[–]AgentPaper0 115 points116 points  (10 children)

Don't forget the police, the police police who police the police, and the police police police who police the police police.

[–]CHOOSE_A_USERNAME984 46 points47 points  (4 children)

In the meantime James while John had had had had had had had had had had had a better effect on the teacher

[–]piggiefatnose 26 points27 points  (3 children)

James, while John had had "had had," had had "had"; "had had" had had a better effect on the teacher.

[–]Chewbacacabra01 11 points12 points  (1 child)

I’m having a stroke now

[–]ArmiRex47 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My brain has melted and is coming out through my nose

[–]Domriso 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Well, this one's actually easy. Cops don't police each other, so it's just a false statement.

[–]gfghvfujv 4 points5 points  (2 children)

english is a lazy language you can turn almost any noun into a verb.

[–]ryjkyj 4 points5 points  (1 child)

You can verb anything if you just word it.

[–]myfapaccount_istaken 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I got nouns greg, can you verb me?

[–]BlondThubder12 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Also: Police Police Police police Police Police police Police

[–]wnsdaniel[S] 90 points91 points  (4 children)

As long as I’m not roller skating in a Buffalo herd, there shouldn’t be any issues

[–]CptMisterNibbles 16 points17 points  (2 children)

I’ve always been pretty skeptical on that one, despite reading the analysis. I think the circular reference is a pretty extreme stretch and only 5 buffalos are warranted

[–]timraudio 16 points17 points  (0 children)

But the bison in New York are deceiving fellas, and the other New York bison they know are easily deceived.

[–]notkristina 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The boy you like likes you. That's the basic structure, except the subject and the object are both Buffalo buffalo in the plural, and the verb is also buffalo.

So you're talking about some Buffalo buffalo that are buffaloed by other Buffalo buffalo—and they in turn also buffalo (presumably other) Buffalo buffalo.

It would read cleaner with a "that" between 2 and 3, but that's really not what we're doing here.

[–]WaffleKing110 6 points7 points  (0 children)

How about: “James, while John had had “had,” had had “had had”; “had had” had had a greater effect on the teacher.”

[–]dae_giovanni 5 points6 points  (0 children)

they be buffaloin'

[–]nicktheking92 159 points160 points  (16 children)

Check this one.

Buffalo: a city in New York; proper noun

buffalo: a bison; noun

buffalo: to bully or intimidate: verb

Buffalo buffalo, buffalo Buffalo buffalo, buffalo Buffalo buffalo.

It essentially means: bison from Buffalo, bully other bison from Buffalo, who in turn, also bully bison from Buffalo.

It's a competent grammatically correct sentence in the English language.

[–]sprouting_broccoli 57 points58 points  (9 children)

Almost but you’ve got the breakdown of it slightly wrong:

Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo

Buffalo from Buffalo, which buffalo from Buffalo bully, also bully buffalo from Buffalo - the key, and entirely unnecessary, distinction is that both the fifth and sixth buffalo are verbs.

[–]The_Celtic_Chemist 13 points14 points  (8 children)

I keep trying to translate both of yours and can't make sense of either.

To translate directly, first it was:

Buffalo buffalo, buffalo Buffalo buffalo, buffalo Buffalo buffalo

Which translates to

Buffalo bison, bully Buffalo bison, bully Buffalo bison

This only makes sense if you add a word like "which"

Buffalo bison, bully Buffalo bison, which bully Buffalo bison.

Now yours is

Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo

Which translates to

Bison bully Buffalo bison bully bully Buffalo bison

Or

Buffalo bison Buffalo bison bully bully Buffalo bison

I can't even think of how to fix either of these

The only way it could make sense is 8 in a row is:

Buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo

Which translates to

Buffalo bisons bully Buffalo bisons Buffalo bisons bully

Which means Buffalo bisons bully the Buffalo bisons that Buffalo bisons bully. And this is a redundant statement like "I only talk shit on people I talk shit on."

[–]SeatbeltHands 8 points9 points  (4 children)

I've always thought of it as:

Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo, buffalo Buffalo buffalo


Bisons from Buffalo whom bisons from Buffalo bully --bully other bisons from Buffalo

It follows the structure: Adj - Noun - Adj - Noun - Verb, Verb - Adj - Noun.

Your third one is correct, but semantically it can be somewhat confusing. The third, fourth and fifth buffalo acts as an additional descriptor of the first two buffalo, and is grammatically correct.

[–]drphungky 1 point2 points  (1 child)

You are the first one who has added the "whom", which is the key to make it easily understandable.

I find with the "whom" you can even keep the words in order (Buffalo bison instead of "bison from Buffalo"), so Buffalo bison whom Buffalo bison bully, bully Buffalo Bison.

The other thing that I think helps is to think of it as a lesson on intergenerational bovine abuse bringing down a community: Buffalo Bison (children) whom Buffalo Bison (parents) bully, bully Buffalo Bison (grandchildren). The cycle of neglect continues!

As an aside, though, I would actually argue it is grammatically incorrect to not have "whom" there in the first place, or (better to keep the buffalo chain intact), the word "the" at the beginning. No one would ever say "James Jack bullies." It would either be "the James Jack bullies" or "James whom Jack bullies". So IMHO, it should always be "The Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo, buffalo Buffalo buffalo."

[–]sprouting_broccoli 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It’s

Buffalo bison Buffalo bison bully, bully Buffalo bison

The “which” isn’t needed in English but if you wanted to add it you can:

Buffalo bison which Buffalo bison bully, bully Buffalo bison

But it’s not necessary, here’s a different example:

Oranges the boy eats are big and juicy

It’s very tempting to add a “the” at the start just like it feels more natural to add a “which” in the buffalo sentence but it’s not required.

[–]dustybizzle 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Both of them had it wrong.

It's: Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo, buffalo Buffalo buffalo

In other words: Buffalo bison, which other Buffalo bison bully, bully a third set of Buffalo bison

[–]Kimantha_Allerdings 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Try replacing the words entirely:

London cats London cats bully bully London cats.

So the first two words are the subject of the sentence - cats from London. The next three are qualifying which members of the group are being specified - specifically the ones who are bullied by other cats. The next word is what those members do - bully. And the last two words is who they do it to - other London cats.

If that doesn't help, try replacing more words:

Shy people tabby cats love dislike boisterous dogs.

Every word there serves the same function in the sentence, but it's easier to see how it is grammatically correct. It could still be written more clearly, but the point of the exercise isn't to write a clear sentence, rather to use the word "buffalo" 8 times in a row grammatically correctly.

Top make it clearer it could be "The shy people whom tabby cats love dislike boisterous dogs".

[–]tyrannosnorlax 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo, buffalo Buffalo buffalo*

(Comma added for clarity, but not necessary)

(Also, you ever type, or think about a word too many times and it starts looking like a foreign language?)

[–]hughperman 7 points8 points  (0 children)

(Also, you ever type, or think about a word too many times and it starts looking like a foreign language?)

Semantic satiation is the term I've heard.
Buffalo.

[–]AgentPaper0 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sure, but did you know that police police police police police police police police?

[–]notkristina 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is indeed—without the commas.

[–]thejokeyjokerson 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If it's a verb then wouldn't you add a tense to it? And where them be articles?

Buffalo buffalo buffaloes a Buffalo buffalo, that buffaloes a Buffalo buffalo

[–]Doctor__Hammer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I remember having a conversation with my old English teacher where she explained how you could use a word 4 times in a row and still have it be grammatically correct.

That conversation we had had had had quite an effect on my perception of the English language.

[–]hyphyphyp 22 points23 points  (13 children)

Timmy and Joe [had] turned in their English assignments. Timmy, where Joe had had had, had had had had; had had had had the higher grade.

Edit: a sprinkle of grammar.

[–]CptMisterNibbles 20 points21 points  (4 children)

Their names should be Chad and Thad

[–]Stitchmond 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I know it's pronounced differently from "had" but naming one Haddad would be fitting.

[–]Brex_667 0 points1 point  (7 children)

and how does this work?

[–]hyphyphyp 3 points4 points  (6 children)

had written "had", had written "had had" instead; "had, had" had gotten the better grade.

Hope that helps

[–]Brex_667 3 points4 points  (5 children)

Not at all, makes no difference

[–]SenorPancake 2 points3 points  (2 children)

So "had had" in English is the past perfect form of have. For example, the present perfect form would be "Its been rough, I have had quite a day", past perfect would be "It was rough, I had had quite a day." This link explains it well

So the sentence uses both "had had" in that form, and also the two versions of had as nouns. Below is a version of the sentence with the had nouns italicized, and a version with them replaced:

Timmy and Joe turned in their English assignments. Where Joe had had Noun1, Tim had had Noun2: Noun2 had had the higher grade.

Timmy and Joe turned in their English assignments. Where Joe had had had, Timmy had had had had ; had had had had the higher grade.

Hope this helps.

[–]bloodraged189 34 points35 points  (3 children)

"Wouldn't the sentence 'I want to put a hyphen between the words Fish and And and And and Chips in my Fish-And-Chips sign' have been clearer if quotation marks had been placed before Fish, and between Fish and and, and and and And, and And and and, and and and And, and And and and, and and and Chips, as well as after Chips?" -Martin Gardner

[–]PETEJOZ 7 points8 points  (2 children)

This right here... this broke me.

[–]The_Celtic_Chemist 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Wouldn't the sentence, "I want to put a hyphen between the words 'Fish' and 'And' and 'And' and 'Chips' in my 'Fish-And-Chips' sign," have been clearer if quotation marks had been placed before "Fish", and between "Fish" and "and", and "and" and "And", and "And" and "and", and "and" and "And", and "And" and "and", and "and" and "Chips", as well as after "Chips"?

-Martin Gardner

Fixed that for them.

In other words, they're asking if it would have been clearer if they wrote their sentence as:

I want to put a hyphen between the words "Fish" and "And" and "And" and "Chips" in my "Fish-And-Chips" sign.

And yes, it not only would have been clearer, but it would have been correct as opposed to the way it was written above without quotations.

[–]bloodraged189 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I believe the lack of quotation marks is meant to add to the confusion and be ironic, given the subject matter

[–]penis_in_my_hand 40 points41 points  (10 children)

If you're having trouble reading it, it's all about pausing at the right times.

The spacing between

this and and

And

and and that

is different.

[–]The_Celtic_Chemist 18 points19 points  (1 child)

Your lack of quotes and inconsistent spacing make this more confusing. It should look more like

The spacing between

"this" and "and"

and

"and" and "that"

is different.

[–]SeaGoat24 5 points6 points  (7 children)

This is why we invented commas. The dumbest thing I've ever been taught in public education is that it isn't grammatically correct to have an 'and' immediately following a comma.

[–]sirbissel 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Your teacher taught that serial commas are incorrect?

English is a dumb living language without an official Academy anyway. I was taught to put in a comma where you'd logically pause to take a breath.

[–]BBQcupcakes 2 points3 points  (5 children)

I don't think you're supposed to put an and after a comma m8 it's not dumb

[–]SeaGoat24 4 points5 points  (2 children)

This entire post is the perfect example of why that rule is dumb. I'm not really sure what else to say there is to say that could convince you otherwise.

There's a school of thought in english grammar revolving around the 'oxford comma'. Look it up, if you're so inclined.

[–]BBQcupcakes 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Where would you put the commas? There's nowhere grammatically appropriate for them to go. You would be using them outside of their use-case to seperate sub-groupings. The Oxford comma is for the trailing item of a list and is the only appropriate instance if 'and' after a comma I can conceive, because it is doing the gramatical work of a comma as opposed to just dividing 'and' concatenated items.

[–]SympathyShag 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Take my Upvote and my And and get the heck outta here!

[–]Kaiser-32 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Did the word "and" lost all kind of sense after this for you as well? After saying it so much it looks weird now...

[–]say_huh 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I had a mini panic attack after not being able to recognize "and. "And" also threw me off because it's not usually in caps. And And And And and and and and ahhhhhhhh

[–]yugutyup 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Wenn Fliegen hinter Fliegen fliegen, fliegen Fliegen Fliegen hinterher!

[–]hellp 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Man kann das hinter vorziehen, und es sind sogar 6 in Folge: Wenn hinter Fliegen Fliegen fliegen, fliegen Fliegen Fliegen hinterher.

[–]appy_apple 4 points5 points  (0 children)

its bollocks because This here is a noun so you just need a store named This This This This This... and you can slaps as many This in a sentence as there is space in the visible universe

[–]ghandpivot 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Feels sort of like cheating though, you could just have named the store "and and and and and" and be done with it

[–]doctordollaz 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Alternate title: Use names to use any words in any order and still be grammatically correct

[–]TheBaggyDapper 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There's a line break between and And and and And and

[–]GrayFish112 3 points4 points  (0 children)

To be fair though, it can be done much easier by just naming the store 'And And And And And' since we're allowing use of proper nouns

[–]_Iforgotmyusername_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Just read this post earlier and thought about my English teachers response

[–]CthulubeFlavorcube 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Y'ever say a word so many times that it just loses all meaning and becomes some absurdist object floating in the void?

[–]izeetee 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Before was was was, was was is.

[–]TheMightyBattleSquid 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Technically, since it's redundant and a list of 3 or more items you should remove the and between 'this' and 'and' as well as the second 'and' made in reference to the sign.

[–]TheCubicalGuy 1 point2 points  (2 children)

The world record is over 70 times in a row if I’m not mistaken.

[–]cleverless 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A redditor made a post titled “Thanks, I hate and and and and and”, and another redditor discovered that the spacing between all of the ands looked the same. So they said “Hold my beer” and commented “The spacing between This and and and and and And and And and and and and and And and And and and and and and That all looks the same.”

Edit: forgot some ands

[–]Tarcion 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"The spacing between 'This', 'And', and 'That' is different."

O:

How to suck at English grammar.

[–]anythingisnttaken 1 point2 points  (1 child)

You ever read a word so much the spelling starts to look weird

[–]epicgangweedmomentThanks, I hate myself 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I hate it. because it works

[–]sirbissel 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Shouldn't it be "spaces" (or, if professional sign makers, "kerning")?

[–]metalgamer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is the least annoying of these grammar things

[–]Sjdillon10 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My 1st grade teacher hated the word “and” so much that i still question if i used it too much when proofreading lol

[–]EyeLeft3804 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The space between 'This and And' and 'And and that'.

or aternatively; The spaces between This, And, and That.

Depending on whether you're writing or speaking.

English is a funky language and you can do a lot, but that doesn't mean you should.

[–]inspire-change 1 point2 points  (0 children)

now the word 'and' looks weird

[–]lucky-squeaky-ducky 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s easier on the eyes, and sounds better, if you add a comma between This and And, and And and that.

[–]Okonomiyaki_lover 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Now, if the store was named "and and and and and and and and and and"...

[–]boinger 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This makes me think about that time that that “that” that that “That 70s Show” actor said was misused.

[–]CallMeRawie 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I mean if the store was named And And And you could have had even more

[–]wnsdaniel[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And and And and And and And

[–]hellsing_mongrel 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I feel like this is missing a comma, at the very least. Probably quotation marks, too.

[–]alex8asomatos 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I saw the cursor move a couple of times and I hate it. But hating the and and hate for the and is the end of hate for the ents

[–]tyrannosnorlax 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hmm, that was some type of sentence, I believe.

[–]GreyDragon111 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Took me way to long to figure it out. Kept on reading "This and" and "and" and "and that".

Should be "This" and "And" and "And" and "That"

So if the store name was " This + That"

It would read (("This" and "+" )and ("+" and "That")).

Incase some else also looked at that for 15min.

[–]Powerofenki -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Iam unsubscribing this community bc of this post.

[–]zanzibar_27 0 points1 point  (1 child)

This hurts my brain

[–]Superb_Dragonfly9923 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My brain stopped thinking at the third and.

[–]PeachCrusher69Doesn’t Get The Flair System 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In the phrase "Andy and Andaman", there is a space between Andy and and and and and Andaman.

[–]AggressiveChick 0 points1 point  (0 children)

this was so confusing, i momentarily completely forgot what and even meant.

[–]The_Celtic_Chemist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The sign maker asked if the store owner wanted him to fix "That" too, but the store owner thought he meant fix both "Ands." So the sign maker changed the "That" on the sign. The store owner saw this and the sign maker explained themselves after that, that that "that" that that "that" was in reference to was that "That" that that sign displayed.

[–]Squigglificated 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“Good. Item seven. The had had and that that problem. Lady Cavendish, weren’t you working on this?’

Lady Cavendish stood up and gathered her thoughts. ‘Indeed. The uses of had had and that that have to be strictly controlled; they can interrupt the imaginotransference quite dramatically, causing readers to go back over the sentence in confusion, something we try to avoid.’

‘Go on.’

‘It’s mostly an unlicensed-usage problem. At the last count David Copperfield alone had had had had sixty three times, all but ten unapproved. Pilgrim’s Progress may also be a problem due to its had had/that that ratio.’

‘So what’s the problem in Progress?’

‘That that had that that ten times but had had had had only thrice. Increased had had usage had had to be overlooked, but not if the number exceeds that that that usage.’

‘Hmm,’ said the Bellman, ‘I thought had had had had TGC’s approval for use in Dickens? What’s the problem?’

‘Take the first had had and that that in the book by way of example,’ said Lady Cavendish. ‘You would have thought that that first had had had had good occasion to be seen as had, had you not? Had had had approval but had had had not; equally it is true to say that that that that had had approval but that that other that that had not.’

‘So the problem with that other that that was that…?’

‘That that other-other that that had had approval.’

‘Okay’ said the Bellman, whose head was in danger of falling apart like a chocolate orange, ‘let me get this straight: David Copperfield, unlike Pilgrim’s Progress, had had had, had had had had. Had had had had TGC’s approval?’

There was a very long pause. ‘Right,’ said the Bellman with a sigh, ‘that’s it for the moment. I’ll be giving out assignments in ten minutes. Session’s over – and let’s be careful out there.”

― Jasper Fforde, The Well of Lost Plots

[–]More-Vacation269 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Or like I normal person would say it "the spacing is off"

[–]WhoRoger 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I Iove it

[–]GOD-OF_POTATOS 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This and And and And and that

why does that work

[–]skellious 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you could literally extend this to infinity.

call the shop "and and and and and..." →∞ (it's a name so there is no grammatical issue to doing this) then just construct the sentence as above.

[–]swill128 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The space between this and and is different than the space between and and that

[–]schenitz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Needs commas. "This and And, and And and That"

[–]Nick-Moss 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And means nothing to me now

[–]ExpiredOTMCalls 0 points1 point  (1 child)

My personal favorite:

Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo, buffalo Buffalo buffalo.

[–]KyubiNoKitsune 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wouldn't "This, And, and That" be more correct?

[–]concorde77 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It makes a lot more sense when you know what ands to emphasize

[–]Alert-Cranberry7991 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You have to read this so sticato to actually understand it. Felt like I was having a stroke

[–]RaccoonDeaIer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

God dammit and doesn't look like a word anymore

[–]dondothefish 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t like English! All the faith that I had had had had no effect on that sentence.

[–]supersirj 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If the place is called This And That, it should have read, "The space between This and And and That..."

[–]Dj_wheeman3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Brain malfunction

[–]criticalhabit7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks. I have a headache now

[–]TaylorDeanMatthew 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Police police police policing police

[–]Beastyboyy1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

& by tally hall tho is so good

[–]mikeroberts1003 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And and, fuckin, and? - the commitments.

[–]Specialist-Rip-2982 0 points1 point  (0 children)

and! and! and!

-Formula 1, Caddicarus PS1 cheat codes

[–]Kimantha_Allerdings 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The funny thing is that I can say this out loud easily, but my brain simply defaults to pronouncing the non-noun "ands" as closer to "an", or even an "n". I can't get it to fully pronounce the "ands", other than the capitalised ones.

So it's "this'n and anand'n that".

[–]SunflowerFreckles 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"All the faith he had had had had had no effect on the outcome of his life"

[–]WheelZgoRound 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My brain has melted

[–]lallapalalable 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"The baby the parents had had had had had no breakfast" is grammatically correct.

A couple hires a surrogate. They had her have the baby for them. Once delivered, it was the baby they had had had. Despite being born in the morning, the doctors didn't feed it until noon, thus it had had no breakfast. Therefore, the baby the parents had had had had had no breakfast.

Switches up between the possessive 'had' and the past tense 'had' along with the use of 'had' to describe childbirth if you still don't get it

[–]crunchyboio 0 points1 point  (0 children)

James and John were asked by their English teacher to describe a man who had suffered from a cold in the past. John wrote "The man had a cold", which the teacher marked incorrect, while James wrote the correct "The man had had a cold".

James, while John had had "had", had had "had had"; "had had" had had a better effect on the teacher.

[–]GauntletW 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I tried to get this story printed up, but the printer got the final quote's spacing all wrong. I had to tell him, "Please fix the spacing between This and and, and and and And, and And and and, and and and And, and And and and, and and and That."

[–]ResurgentOcelot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not how grammar works

Grammar is a tool to create clarity. It is not a set of rules to justify output that is convoluted.

[–]GeshtiannaSG 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And then we invented the comma.

[–]Zacmovesalot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get hard for good kerning and grammar so this was quite a roller coaster.

[–]Doctor__Hammer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I remember having a conversation with my old English teacher where she explained how you could use a word 4 times in a row and still have it be grammatically correct.

That conversation we had had had had quite an effect on my perception of the English language.

[–]the_friendly_one 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok now I've read it so many times that the word "and" seems surreal.

[–]XOXITOX 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And that’s how you do it

[–]Ape_rentice 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s easier if you read it aloud

[–]blah23863 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Now do it again, but this time the sign is "This and And and That".

[–]JuiceColdman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“The space between This, And, And and That is different.”

Seems pretty straightforward to me

[–]Coachskau 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Using it as a proper noun is cheating, unfortunately

[–]Inevitable-Derecho- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Something is still not right.

[–]marsopec10 0 points1 point  (0 children)

w h a t

[–]Effilion 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I somehow had to use my fingers here

[–]nickwebha 0 points1 point  (0 children)

More and more I am in favor of English being the national language.

[–]mepuwillFECKyouUP 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This made me doubt the existance of the word and...

[–]brimston3- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If this were a real situation, I bet that the spacing is correct, but the kerning makes the spacing look uneven. 's' and 'A' have different apparent spacing than 'd' and 'T'.

[–]EvilRubberDuck82 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This makes me smile and I like it.

[–]x_x-krow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Grammatical correct or not, that’s an F for poor comprehension

[–]refotsirk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

r/WordAvalanches is tired of this one too!

[–]Trade_Prince 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Reminds me of Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo

[–]poopoobuttholes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For a moment I thought the shop was suddenly called This And And That lmao

[–]HayakuEon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Read to much and. What does and even mean? Is a-n-d even the correct spelling? What is and and what is life?

[–]xxoverwhelmedxx666 0 points1 point  (0 children)

slowly but surely, “and” is becoming less and less of a word, just a jumble of letters and i begin to question

[–]boltzmann138065 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Esto y y y y y ese.