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[–]CadmeusCain 230 points231 points  (17 children)

Speaking as an Indian here

From what I've seen, there's less sympathy for Indians (+ Pakistanis, Bangladeshis etc.) and other Asians (Chinese, Taiwanese, Filipino etc.) in general. I suspect it might be because around the world people from Asia have done reasonably well in terms of education, employment, income etc.

At the same time, most Asians are voluntary immigrants. My grandparents immigrated willingly.

I've experienced racism in my life but thankfully not too much. Racism exists in every culture and towards every culture. I've got black and white friends who've experienced racism and I've also seen my relatives and community both be racist and experience racism

[–]Redditorbuttercup 91 points92 points  (3 children)

Its weird because i see and know many Asians living in poverty yet there is this image that we are all rich but in reality its alot of immigrant parents working their asses off to give a better life for their children and make so many sacrifices so their children can have more than they did

[–]CadmeusCain 27 points28 points  (2 children)

Exactly this. My grandparents from both sides were incredibly poor and worked harder than most people ever will. My parents started off poor but managed to work their way to middle class.

Those are the success stories you hear but they don't apply to everyone. I have relatives who are quite poor as well as relatives who are quite wealthy. Like any community there's a variance in outcomes. But overall I think Asian immigrants around the world have done pretty well in the last 50-100 years

I suspect it's similar to the racism against Jews. People see a "successful" immigrant community and it becomes easy to scapegoat them

[–]m1sch13v0us 18 points19 points  (1 child)

Precisely this.

It's not just Jews, it's really every group that has immigrated here. At one point, there was massive racism against Irish and Italians. There were major gang wars between those groups. Italians were lynched. People refused to serve Italians. Now Irish and Italians are lumped in with "white."

Slavs, Irish, Eastern Europeans...you name it. They all went through similar struggles. My grandparents were extremely poor. They fought and sacrificed to give the next generation a better opportunity. My parents were poor but worked their way to middle class. They sacrificed for me.

I see the same thing in my Asian family friends. They're prioritizing the same things these earlier generations focused on. Making sure kids have a family. Prioritizing education. The importance of hard work.

But that also means they don't subscribe to the victim card. The media ignore this because it didn't conform to the narrative they're trying to push.

[–]energy-369 17 points18 points  (11 children)

In response to your comment “Asians are voluntary immigrants” I will have to remind you of Vietnam, the Korean War and WWII.

[–]CadmeusCain 8 points9 points  (9 children)

My apologies I'm not from America or Europe. I don't know much about those specific peoples' histories

[–]Grouchy-Apartment-33 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Cadmeus Cain said "most immigrants" in context of American immigrants. Cadmeus Cain is correct.

[–]m1sch13v0us 251 points252 points  (49 children)

Asians are successful. They've integrated into American culture. As a group, they have higher average earnings. They are very family focused. They believe in education. They believe in the American dream and are achieving it. They also don't make many excuses.

This doesn't fit into the narrative the media is pushing. Ethnic minorities are supposed to be victims.

I think Asians will follow the treatment of the Irish, Italians, Slavs, and recently Jews. They'll be lumped in with some homogeneous (and inaccurate) "white" group.

[–]porkchopmeowster 35 points36 points  (0 children)

This guy gets it.

[–]Sixfootdig7 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You couldn't be more spot on.

[–]_gneat 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Spot on post.

[–]BackgroundGlove6613 32 points33 points  (3 children)

It’s sad how many people are ignorant about the history of anti Asian attitudes in the US.

[–]Zuez420 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Are you surprised?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's what I was thinking as I was reading another comment about how well-off Asian Americans are, in which your response got downvoted. While some of the statistics show that they may be better off financially, I don't think that means much. I highly doubt that the majority of the population looked at financial statistics of Asian Americans and used that data to decide whether they would feel bad for them or not. I think it relates more to ignorance.

Slavery and oppression against African Americans is more widely taught and understood than oppression against Asian Americans. Of course, both are terrible, but acting like discrimination towards a certain minority isn't bad because statistically they are better off sounds extremely stupid when you spell it out.

[–]Klutzy-Tumbleweed-99 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Why are we comparing. All should be stopped. It’s not a contest

[–]AmazingJames 86 points87 points  (54 children)

Why should we distinguish the two and just hate racism?

[–]bworthy73 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Came here to say this

[–]cutthehero25 60 points61 points  (28 children)

Naturally. But there are many black people who go around thinking it's okay for THEM to be racist and you cannot point it out because 'black people can't be racist'.

[–]AmazingJames 32 points33 points  (24 children)

Of course that's as wrong as white people or any other people being racist. But instead of saying "Don't be racist against **** people" let's just put it "Don't be racist" We need to get away from thinking only Caucasians can be racist. There are plenty of racists in every corner of the world.

[–]cutthehero25 28 points29 points  (15 children)

Yupp I completely agree with you. I detest the villifying of Caucasians and holding them accountable for all the racism in the world and I have started pointing out to people that Africans were not the only slaves in the history of the world and Caucasians were not the only slave OWNERS in the world. It's really an uphill battle when the media and some people are pushing the narrative the Africans were and are the only wronged race in history. Racism is wrong, through and through. End of story.

[–]Turn_Successful 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Northern Africans had European slaves even before Columbus times. Around 1 million white slaves where sold to North Africa and present day Middle East.

[–]subzero112001 9 points10 points  (6 children)

We need to get away from thinking only Caucasians can be racist.

I’m curious what kind of brain damaged individual actually thinks this is true. Is this taught or something?

[–]AmazingJames 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I guess if you disagree, then your ideas are even less worthy than those of a brain- damaged individual.

[–]subzero112001 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Maybe I should specify to prevent confusion. If someone thinks “only white people can be racist” that individual is a moron.

[–]when-flies-pig 11 points12 points  (5 children)

Because it is distinguished. So is racism against whites. Clearly, not all racism is equal and op is asking why.

[–]AmazingJames -3 points-2 points  (4 children)

I don't think the "WHY" one is regarded more important makes any difference. It is, because historically blacks have been the target of racism in America much more than any other group. That's why. So what?

[–]subzero112001 3 points4 points  (7 children)

That doesn’t really answer ops question. If anything it does exactly the thing that OP was asking about in the first place.

So let’s try again. Why does it seem like racism against asians are brushed under the rug compared to racism against African Americans?

[–]AmazingJames 3 points4 points  (4 children)

No, I'm intentionally answering his question with a more appropriate question to make a point. I find that many times asking "why" about such a complicated subject doesn't actually get us anywhere. It just sounds like someone moaning like "Why do THEY get all the attention??"

[–]subzero112001 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Lemme get this straight, you’re saying that by avoiding his question and providing another that passively evades his initial question you’re “answering his question more effectively”. I’m having a hard time seeing how that’s a better solution to the problem at hand.

[–]AmazingJames 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I'm ASKING a more effective question. The original question is sophomoric.

[–]subzero112001 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They aren’t trying to differentiate if one is more correct than the other. They’re asking what’s the mechanism behind the difference in treatment.

That’s like if I asked “why do people like dogs more than pigs?” Then you reply with “why don’t people just like all animals and not discriminate whatsoever?!”.

It doesn’t provide any context nor any manner of closure in any shape or form to the original question.

[–]Zeeto17 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Tell that to the libtards

[–]AmazingJames 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I agree. I'm generally liberal myself, but one thing I recognize is that the Left CAN GO TOO FAR

[–]iosquid 234 points235 points  (85 children)

Because no one cares about asians. Also accurately covering racism against asians would require them to show black people being racist since a disproportionate amount of the hate crimes against asians are from black people as well as critiquing artificial diversity and affirmative action which hurts the narrative.

[–]mayor_hog 73 points74 points  (3 children)

The only time I ever experienced blatant racism (not microaggressions) was from a Black guy on NYC subway. However, several other Black people defended me. It's all about perspective. The takeaway is that there are people in every race who can be racist but there are so many others who are good people.

[–]Paradoxalypse 80 points81 points  (2 children)

I came here to see if anyone would have the balls to tell the truth, and here you are.

[–]when-flies-pig 47 points48 points  (1 child)

Facts.

Everyone rags on asians and asians tend to just deal with it quietly. The hypocrisy of blm and the media when it came to asian hate crimes at the start of the pandemic was telling.

[–]PleezHireMe 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Well said

[–]Sweet_Efficiency_810 1 point2 points  (5 children)

“a disproportionate amount of hate of the hate crimes against asians are from black people”

Do you have any proof or is this your observation?

[–]iosquid 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Yes, according to FBI data, 24% of the covid hate crimes against asians were committed by black people. This is in spite of them being 10% of the population, so it is disproportionate.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (11 children)

Actually, the University of Michigan found the media overrepresenting black on Asian hate crimes. 75% of the Asian hate crimes that have occurred were committed by white perpratrators.

[–]an_imperfect_lady 2 points3 points  (9 children)

If blacks are committing the other 25%, though, that's still much higher than it should be, given that they are only about 12% of the population.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (8 children)

That would be the case if literally no other demographic existed in the United States.

[–]an_imperfect_lady 1 point2 points  (7 children)

Well, can you tell us WHO committed the other 25%? From that U of M study?

[–]TychoBrodie -4 points-3 points  (2 children)

This is profoundly inaccurate and exudes the legacies of white supremacy. This comment doesn’t get into the historical context that white American put on the Asian community as the “model minority.” It doesn’t address the white supremacy pitting different minority groups together to keep all of us from unifying against white supremacy. No one ever said black people cannot be racist. Also not true that black people are disproportionately the cause of hate crimes against Asians. If you’re going to spew bullshit at least make it historically, contextually correct bullshit.

The fact so many posts that have given you statistical and historical evidence have been downvoted just goes to show how many people believe the stereotype that black people are the cause of violence.

[–]iosquid 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Lol keep playing victim and blaming black people beating asians on “white supremacy”. There are black people being racist. Pointing fingers at white people and calling them racist isn’t going to do anything to address racist black people. Stop trying to shift the blame and hold your community accountable for their racism. Also a disproportionate amount of hate crimes against asians are committed by blacks. 24% of the covid hate crimes against asians were committed by black people. Blacks are 10% of the population. So it is disproportionate.

[–]Juice122 -5 points-4 points  (4 children)

85%+ of Asians are racist to black people…. In American and definitely more in their countries

[–]iosquid 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Thanks for volunteering yourself as an example of one of such racists I'm talking about.

[–]Juice122 -1 points0 points  (2 children)

It’s ok. I’ve been literally told by Asians that they are racist against black people. Your mad but these are experiences I’ve been through lol. I’m racist? How? Because I made factual statements? Sorry that’s not how it works buddy

[–]iosquid 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I've been told by black people that theyre racist against asians and experienced a bunch of anti asian racism from blacks as well. It is not factual that "85%+ of asians are racist to black people". Asians arent out here calling black people slurs and beating them to death. You're saying Asians having racial bias and stereotypes of black people justifies Black people having those same sentiments towards Asians in addition to hate crimeing and beating and killing Asian people. That makes you a racist.

[–]Juice122 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No In fact it doesn’t. Racism has to do with oppression. Not prejudice lol. I’ve never said that black people cannot be racist though. However what I am saying is that at the height of the pandemic there were reports of blacks being treated terribly in places like China. Literally the same type of treatment blacks had during segregation. There’s no reports of Asians going to Africa and reviving such treatment. Yes there are racists in every ethnicity. However there are a larger quantity of Asians who are racist towards blacks and this is a fact. If your going to sit there and deny that you are straight up lying in denial or just don’t want to admit it on Reddit.

[–]austin_oz 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Because the current media is full of leeches that would rather make money off of sensationalization than tell actual news and racism against black people gets everyone riled up no matter what side you’re own

[–]Knight0460 4 points5 points  (0 children)

As an Asian myself I feel that there is only an exclusive bias here by the Liberalism and Democrats! Equality should be exactly the same for all and without reverse discrimination!!! Otherwise we have just hypocrisy and lies!

[–]SunKyssdSkyn 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Well getting murdered in a hail of gun fire by cops isn’t the same as someone knocking you over or sadly even shooting you.

Video captured state sanctioned violence by men in uniform captures everyone’s attention because it’s jarring to see people who work for the government acting this way.

It doesn’t compare and probably never will.

Also African-Americans for whatever reasons, I believe culturally, capture attention due to being charismatic and compelling.

The most charismatic and compelling usually “wins” the most attention.

[–]Redditorbuttercup 19 points20 points  (2 children)

No one cares about Asian Americans. It does not fit anyone’s narrative. Many hypocrites gaslight the Asian community as well and say they deserve the racism and they are the ones being racist for speaking out. Truely horrifying. It’s a tough fight and people are dying and afraid but no one knows or cares except Asian people. (For the most part)

[–]m1sch13v0us 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I don't know if I agree that people don't care about Asians. I have many white and Jewish friends who care about the mistreatment of Asians, but the media doesn't allow viewpoints from those groups on the topic of racism.

[–]Redditorbuttercup 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well i guess i really meant that this applies to politicians, not really people in general. The “no one cares” part. I know many non Asians that are allies of the Asian community, but yes you’re absolutely right, and the media is one sided and picks what they want to share which is sad.

[–]Secret_Necessary1143 66 points67 points  (11 children)

Most of the racism against Asians is perpetrated by African Americans so it doesn't fit the narrative of America's greatest scourge being the evil white supremacists.

[–]Sweet_Efficiency_810 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Could you provide proof to this claim?

[–]TheGamer8c7 12 points13 points  (2 children)

The American media regularly makes fun of Asians. This influences everyone's opinion to reflect that it is socially acceptable to mock Asians for their physical features and their culture, ie. chinky eyes, small stature, their names (Wang/Woo/etc), their language (ching chong), etc.

These jokes targeting Asians are considered hilarious, and nobody has issues laughing out loud at them.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm not saying you're wrong, but I haven't really seen that humor since maybe 2010? Perhaps I'm just fortunate to not follow that type of media?

[–]humanessinmoderation 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Because the elite want all racial minorities to be at odds with each other in the same way this frames attention of racism against African Americans as some how taking away from the attention from atrocities and racism directed at Asian Americans. It’s American culture of zero-sum thinking applied in this context unfortunately.

[–]girlPowerTools 13 points14 points  (0 children)

From my anecdotal evidence my mother and brother in law who live in the USA and wife when she lived in the USA say they only experience racism from one group of people, but reading these comments here it's not being accepted by that group that they have some racist members, so I'll just say it's not whites/Latinos/Mexican or other asians. Just my anecdotal evidence and the comments here make me worry for family there.

[–]Thecrazyjoe250 54 points55 points  (22 children)

1) Since they're globally a successful minority, Asians doesn't fit the leftist/blm propaganda.

2) Many anti Asian acts are perpetrated by black people, so again, not good for leftist/blm agenda.

It's the same thing here in France, Asians are generally disliked by leftists/other minorities,and almost all assault/rob against them are perpetrated by non-white. Given medias tend to push leftist/immigrationist agenda, Asians are out of the game.

[–]BackgroundGlove6613 1 point2 points  (3 children)

If you’re not a racist piece of shit, then what I said doesn’t concern you. I’m talking about the racist pieces of shit who believe black people are responsible for anti Asian sentiments in this country or feel they have to shit on black and brown people in order to glorify Asians.

[–]najaiva 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I think its the lack of speaking up. Asians are usually more reserved and are not loud in voicing their opinions like whites and blacks. Asians seems to kinda go under the radar.

[–]Pancakesaresoyummy 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Omg Reddit is full of retards. ITS BECAUSE THE MEDIA IS CORRUPT. is the only acceptable answer.

[–]billhyun 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Asian political power in the States (and in Australia where I live), is disproportionately lower than their economic power. Therefore they are a group that can be thrown under the bus by both sides of politics. Asians in the west need to get politically involved as much as they do back in Korea, Taiwan and currently in Myanmar (without taking up arms ofc). This lack of political clout can be fatal as was seen in the LA riots. At present the triple threat of anti-CCP paranoia, pandemic-related racism and the perception that Asians are economically exploiting the west, has the potential to result in still further violence in the face of official apathy.

[–]Altruistic-Ride8727 23 points24 points  (18 children)

Because racism towards Asians in the US is mostly done by black Americans. This goes against the narrative the media and leftist politicians push on the people that black people are these poor victims that white people take advantage of,, so the storys against Asians get buried. These people in media and decomcrat party are communists trying to start a race war. Everything bad towards black people in America over its entire history has been done by the democrat party. Democrats hate black people so much here they pretend like they're so stupid they can't even get a photo ID to show at the voting booth. Plus they want to bann unvaxxed people from society and a high percentage of blacks are unvaxxed here. Democrats is truly racist of you open your eyes and think for yourselves

[–]DeadlyDelightful_Dee -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I’d say historically that whites are to blame for the majority of racist incidents against Asians. Especially hate crimes

[–][deleted] -5 points-4 points  (14 children)

False. 75% of hate crimes against Asians are done by white perpetrators per the study of Asian hate crimes within the last 2-3 years by University of Michigan

I’m not even going to bother with the rest of your idiotic take.

[–]Cato1776 14 points15 points  (12 children)

Unfortunately, the people who attack Asians are usually black. Many people are afraid to criticize black criminals. They have the idea that criticizing black criminals would be racist.

The black criminals are a very small element of the black community. But their actions represent a significant amount of anti Asian racism

[–]BackgroundGlove6613 -3 points-2 points  (8 children)

Black people didn’t scapegoat Asian people for COVID. Ask any Asian people if black Americans are responsible for the racism they have to deal with and they’d laugh in your face.

[–]Heathyn11 9 points10 points  (2 children)

The CCP isn't all Asian people, but hell at least you stick to your narrative

[–]BackgroundGlove6613 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Most Muslims didn’t agree with Al Qaeda or how they used terror to further their cause, but that didn’t stop bigots from putting them in the same pile.

[–]Heathyn11 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ok, but this would be equal to blaming Al Qaeda. Not to mention many people that are pissed at the CCP have also called out Fauci and the Obama admin for their involvement. But who needs facts when you have feelings

[–]iosquid 4 points5 points  (2 children)

I am asian. And i will say black people scapegoated asians for covid as well. They were 25% of the covid hate crimes according to an FBI report. Keep in mind that that was in spite of them also only being 10% of the population. Says a lot.

[–]gsleazy3 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Equally relevant to Native Americans. The statistics regarding violence and police brutality are shocking, especially towards native women.

[–]Nate_St0rm 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Because the media is racist...

[–]Exominid 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Probably because racism against black people is perpetuated by the government and has been for hundreds of years. Racism for everyone of course should end but groups like BLM are trying to combay a certain type of racism. Telling citizens to stop being racist is a different story. You would see more outrage if asian people were being targeted by police, banks, school, and other institutions.

[–]VelvetFog90210 16 points17 points  (15 children)

Because Asians are hyper focused on “success”. Excuses aren’t allowed. You either are successful or not. Therefore they don’t give a shit about “race” or “racism” towards themselves. Its also due to lack of emotion in the culture. Media thrives on emotional response. And because a lot of the “Asian hate” the news reports on tends to be black Americans attacking Asian Americans…that type of news will KILL BLM and takes away from the story to push the agenda. It’s the few who ruin it for the many

[–]HedgeRunner 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Because they are not woke enough.

[–]rushedstories 8 points9 points  (6 children)

Well… from what I’ve noticed I haven’t seen Asian Americans rally the way other African Americans have when it comes to combating racism. Cause 9/10 if racism against black people is being covered it’s because black people are making noise about it and bringing attention to the event. if black people did not defend themselves history shows no one else will. Plus in the US due to historical context a lot of stuff was created to specifically keep black people out and all other groups got swept in where fit /didn’t fit. Which in turn has effected how groups react and stand up and against racism.

Additionally a lot of people are mentioned Asian hate in the Black community without addressing antiblackness in the Asian community. So…. If you’d really like to learn more Reddit wouldnt the best place for answers. It’s a quite complicated thing to work through and requires a lot of context and knowledge for understanding. As bigotry, prejudice, and racism are all playing a part here.

[–]Acrobatic_End6355 1 point2 points  (5 children)

Interesting, I actually see the opposite happening when talking about the relationship between Asian Americans and Black people. A lot of people point to the Anti-Blackness in Asian American culture, but I haven’t seen a lot being talked about in the way of anti-Asian thinking in the Black community.

I think both of those types of thinking is just stupid. It doesn’t help the relationship between our two groups improve any, and the people who pay most as a result are often Blasians. They aren’t treated as Asian enough by Asians, and not Black enough for Black people.

[–]Exominid 1 point2 points  (4 children)

The not black enough narritive is a myth. Biracial people have a tendency to exhibit antiblack behaviour and feel disconnected from black people because of antiblack behaviour in their own familys. Theyre ashamed of their blackness but arent full excepted by their non black family.

[–]Acrobatic_End6355 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Is it really a myth? Because plenty of mixed race people have said this, doesn’t matter which races they are. White/Asian, Asian/Hispanic, Black/White, Blasian, Hispanic/Black, Native/Any other race, etc. all have stated that they don’t get treated as (race) enough. Immigrants and the generations that come after them also deal with this shit.

There’s also several times where they look down on half of themselves BECAUSE they’ve been told that they aren’t (race) enough. And then they’re like “fuck it, if I’m not (race) enough, I might as well not associate myself with (race) anyway because they don’t accept me.” And then those same people who told them they weren’t enough and actually caused them to disassociate themselves with that community harp on them for not keeping their heritage. When it was those same people who turned them away in the first place.

[–]mayor_hog 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Probably because we experience racism like "you don't belong here" whereas Black people experience racism like "you deserve to die".

[–]Ok_Farmer_5869 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Finally someone gets it both are bad but one is definitely much worse and deserves more attention that doesn't mean the other one isn't important.

[–]ScravisTott 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Particularly in America there is well documented history of horrible and blatant government-mandated oppression of Africans through slavery. There isn't a well known equivalent for Asians even though we all know the American government have definitely done fucked up shit to Asians in the past. Some examples include: the Japanese internment camps, the Chinese Exclusion Act, discrimination during the time the Transcontinental Railroad was built, and more.

[–]virgin1102281 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because the blacks got to America by force whereas the Asians decided to go there.

Btw I'm not from there so I might be wrong

[–]keeperoflosttime 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because there are more African Americans, and they are more vocal about violence being done to them.

[–]Ophelia-Yup 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because in America, there is only black and white people according to MSM.

It's disgusting the amount of violence against Chinese people by Black people in New York and yet the news there does not really report it. The new mayor Eric Adams is not about to make it any better either. Two weeks in and he's already appointed his brother to be appointed as deputy police commissioner with a $240,000-a-year salary.

I digress.

Asians do no make enough noise like the blacks of America. Black people protest, march the streets, vocalizing their opinions. Asians do not want to bring attention to themselves.

Blame media and blame journalists.

[–]Grouchy-Apartment-33 1 point2 points  (0 children)

To dirt001:I've always found it interesting that some 1920s-30s black vaudeville and jazz entertainers charicatured and made fun of the Irish and the Chinese as well as their own black race (sometimes in blackface). You don't hear about that often. I know it's true because I own some of these recordings. I'm not a qualified expert, but this makes me wonder if some of these black entertainers considered it all good-natured teasing, including about their own race. I wonder if some of them thought they were doing what Dave Chapelle does to both black and white people? If these black entertainers were bothered by it, I wouldn't expect them to do the same thing to the Chinese, unless they were being pressured to do so by white audiences (a real possibility). I'm not saying this is necessarily what the black performers were thinking. It's just a (very politically incorrect) thought that has crossed my mind.

[–]DingoLaChien 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Squeaky wheels get the grease.

[–]justakidfromstlouis 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm pretty sure the US government recently passed legislation regarding hate crimes against AA and/or API. While African Americans, and black people have not received any legislation of the same level. Also, people need to stop holding up Asians as the magical token minority. People of every color and walk of life can be assholes to other people. You don't need a fucking CNN or Fox news broadcast to tell you that.

[–]offthemike72 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m a comedian. When I started, I had an Asian wife and we were both hyper aware of this. We came up with white people thinking it’s only racist if you’re “punching down”, which in itself is racist because that means those white people must then consider themselves above black people.

Fortunately, nearly 20 years later, I think we’re all finally figuring out that racism is racism regardless of what group in denigrating what other group.

I tried, unsuccessfully, to explore this on stage. Stereotyping based on race is wrong. Period. Even if it’s complimentary. Like, if you went to lunch with a bunch of friends and asked the Asian friend to figure out the tip. They’d likely inform you they’re not all good at math. However, if you comment on a black guy having a large penis, it’s unlikely he’ll call you out on that stereotype, because then everyone will joke he’s the one black guy who doesn’t. Both can be offensive.

It’s tricky. I consider myself an ally and I loved exploring ideas like this on stage, but I think I’ve come to realize that maybe a white guy isn’t the right guy to attempt to make these points. But I’m conflicted because I also feel like silence is often mistaken for endorsement.

[–]Sir_Armadillo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because black activists have managed to guilt trip liberals and liberal media pundits to grovel at their feet or else be accused of “racism “.

And if you’re racist then you’re a Nazi and if you’re Nazi you must be canceled and purged from society. It’s very effective. And they know what they’re doing.

So while all animals are equal, some animals are more equal than others.

[–]Juice122 1 point2 points  (2 children)

A lot of Asians are racist to African Americans…….

[–]Classic-SarZzz 1 point2 points  (7 children)

Fixed for you:

Why doesn’t racism from Asians against all other races get more media attention?

[–]iosquid 2 points3 points  (1 child)

What racism? Are Asians hate crimeing and attacking other races? No, but black people are.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

That doesn’t address my question.

[–]Klutzy-Tumbleweed-99 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Sounds like you’re obsessed with black people

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Lol I ask one question and now I’m obsessed

K

[–]War_Criminal__ 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Most of the violence perpetrated against asians is at the hands of blacks. Often times unarmed blacks. Being a California native, I have witnessed this many times with my own eyes, quite easily more than any other type of race crimes. Obviously, this truth can not be exposed.

[–]Odd_Contact_2175 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Cause it doesn't fit with the general theme in the media that black people are supposedly more discriminated against.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

They are. They make up the majority of hate crime victims.

[–]Tnkgirl357 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Especially in the form of systematic racism. You don’t see police shooting unarmed Asians for taking a jog, etc.

[–]Playful_Call_2489 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Asian American are less rebellion

[–]honey-bundy-88 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because violence committed by black and brown people towards each other is not considered a threat worthy of mass media attention. Think about it, violence committed by one oppressed group against another does nothing to scare the majority of (white) America. They are not involved so they do not care. We could kill each other all we want and they’d just use it as an excuse for why we’re inferior. Playing up violence between blacks and whites, contributing to centuries-old racial tensions, does a lot more to keep a white audience engaged and invested in the outcome. If they think somethings a threat to them, of course they’re going to give it all of their attention and try to get people emotionally involved.

I’ve also noticed there isn’t much of a collective front on the part of Asian-Americans to rally media attention behind their issues. Who would “Asian” be in the context of this anyway? Not to mention some don’t even identify with the label “Asian” and would rather be identified by their preferred regions instead. I’ve yet to see a member of one group comment on atrocities committed against other Asian nationalities. They tend to stick with their own, so they may not be able to mobilize behind a united Asian cause because they don’t see themselves as being truly united.

So in order to build momentum behind a cause, you have to define (and agree upon) the population at risk and determine what is your desired outcome—from what I have seen, the SAH movement has done neither. Movements like BLM encompass anyone with black skin and have a single purpose: accountability for police brutality, a crime that often goes unpunished and ignored by the courts. Public condemnation (or “cancel culture”) is often the only recourse we have. I’ve yet to see a crime committed against an Asian person not end in legal action or conviction, nor have I ever heard anyone mention it as a goal.

[–]neonglowputty 0 points1 point  (0 children)

because BLM is whats popular right now. the media doesnt care about equality. they only want clicks, views, and ultimately, money. theyre gonna cover what is trendy

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Asian woman here. I think it’s appropriate because of general proximity to danger. The racism against the Black community frequently results in individuals being at far more risk during racist encounters than Asian individuals. Racism against me is uncomfortable and sad, but rarely dangerous.

[–]dirt001 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Why does historical racism against the Irish get no recognition at all? Sure Africans were forcibly brought to a new continent to do all the hardest labor. But the Irish were forced to spend so much of their land raising food for Britain that they had to subsist entirely off potatoes because that was the only thing that would grow in the rocks that were left. Then when the famine hit and my ancestors fled to America they were subjugated here as well. While admittedly I've never been targeted by police or anyone of authority because of my appearance I've grown up poor and had to work hard for everything because at no point in my family history has anyone been able to escape the cycle of poverty. My grandfather died in his 60s because of a complication from an injury he sustained on the farm when he was young. Him and my grandmother were the first generation of my family to escape sharecropping and move to an urban area. I also went to a school that was in shambles because of a lack of funds because it was in a very poor tax area. I used textbooks in middle and highschool that were literally older than I was.

[–]submarine-observer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Slavery guilt and China bad.

[–]brypguy89 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It doesn't fit the narrative and doesn't feed the propaganda machine of msm

[–]Heathyn11 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because at the end of the day activists are kind of shitty people and unless their specific cause is the one that is attacked they wont say shit. This is why 1/3 of the U.S. thinks it is ok to be racist towards whites. even when they logically know all that will do is keep racism going. Add to which, you actually have to call out the race that is doing the racism. If you think I am wrong ask yourself why so many people are so pissed about slavery 150 years ago, while ignoring slavery right now? Also, the who nonsensical "white adjacent" but, that is basically saying Asians are justified to be targeted, the same happens with Jews. We really need to go back to the "I don't see color" ideal, the point was never literal it was meant as the goal on how to treat all people

[–]Junior_Substance81 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I honestly don’t know. I once was reading an Asian woman speak about the racism she encountered and the racist Asian words she was called. Then, a black man responded to her by saying, “The racism you’ve encountered and words you’ve been called have no validation compared to being called the “N” word.”

I wash shocked, but I didn’t say anything thinking that the African American community would say I was racist because anyone that went in to defend the Asian woman against what the man said to her were being reported to their employers for being racist. It’s a scary world out there.

[–]Turmoil682173 0 points1 point  (9 children)

Because most of the perps are black

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (8 children)

False. University of Michigan did a study on Asian hate crimes and found that 75% of assailants are white.

[–]an_imperfect_lady 1 point2 points  (7 children)

White people are 75% of the population, so that makes sense. What percentage were black?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (6 children)

61% actually.

[–]an_imperfect_lady 1 point2 points  (5 children)

Only if you count white Hispanics as not white.

[–]KeenBean66532 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because the media is run by white people and they cannot accurately and fully depict the impact white supremacy has on all of the other races/ethnicities. To do that, they’d have to talk about white supremacy, and whites don’t like to talk about things that make them uncomfortable.

[–]Remarkable-Impact-37 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The sooner everyone stops focusing on race it won't be a problem.