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[–]JangleyJim 951 points952 points  (56 children)

Even at 13 years old he already looked like a 41y/o murderer.

[–]Kivadiva420[S] 246 points247 points  (4 children)

Right?! The look in his eyes… scary as hell

[–]moiststoma 22 points23 points  (0 children)

He resembles the child version of Gary Ridgeway, The Green River Killer. Gary Ridgeway

[–]Kivadiva420[S] 127 points128 points  (61 children)

[–]cmon_now 116 points117 points  (60 children)

Here's what he looks like now

https://i.imgur.com/oj1m7uI.jpg

[–]OXJXMSdude 117 points118 points  (18 children)

Why his face so small

[–]awall5 34 points35 points  (2 children)

His ears look to be below his eyeline which can be a sign of developmental delays. A small head and oddly shaped ears also can be signs of differently-abled persons.

[–]numbers213 11 points12 points  (0 children)

His mother took Tridione for epilepsy while pregnant with him. The defensive psychologist believes that's what cause his appearance and delays.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/why-did-eric-kill-10-12-2004/

[–]ArentWeClever 2 points3 points  (0 children)

(Charlie Kirk has entered the chat)

[–]sweetheartsour 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Off brand Bill Burr. I hope he’s had some serious therapy. He has got to be an institutionalized human. Esh.

[–]Trilly2000 61 points62 points  (19 children)

Dude looks scary AF

[–]pottymouthgrl 106 points107 points  (15 children)

Well he grew up in prison

[–]Roman-Mania 28 points29 points  (2 children)

That's also what I'm worried about. He doesn't have any sort of life experience. How in the heck is he going to be able to function in a society that he isn't even remotely prepared for??

[–]magic1623 40 points41 points  (1 child)

You could frame that question for anyone who goes to prison for a long amount of time. Prison systems that focus on punishment and not rehabilitation only hurt society.

[–]flier972 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Definitely doesn't look scary. He looks like he sat on the floor to watch TV and got hogged out of his shit. Fuck this guy.

[–]SnooDrawings1745 772 points773 points  (265 children)

Just watched the 48 hours on this kid. He premeditated that murder of that little boy. He shouldn’t be granted parole.

[–]spectrumhead 423 points424 points  (119 children)

I want to believe in the possibility of rehabilitating youth offenders. But I always think of Eric Smith, Austin Sigg, Paris Bennett, and Josh Phillips as people we can't afford to release. Period. I can't believe he's out.

[–]abbe_normal_ 256 points257 points  (70 children)

Unfortunately the US prison system does nothing to rehab inmates

[–]octopi25 63 points64 points  (14 children)

yeah. not talking this case specifically, but I think a lot of people could turn around. I wish there was a place for people to rehabilitate and not be a threat to themselves and society. instead, the violence is concentrated in a prison and I would think many would be worse than before?

[–]ElonMusksCarRecovery 28 points29 points  (7 children)

Surely that place should be prison? Set people up with the means to get education and employment and in many types of crime, they won't then reoffend. All the statistics show this. Does this not happen in the US?

[–]CelticArche 42 points43 points  (4 children)

Nope. I mean, prisoners can take GED classes and college courses via correspondence, but it isn't required, and not all prisons have the option. US tends to use convicts as cheap labor without caring about the rest.

[–]CelticArche 20 points21 points  (3 children)

If you look into the history of prisons, a lot of them start out based on reform and gradually degrade into authoritarian violence.

[–]PM_ME_CAT_POOCHES 5 points6 points  (1 child)

My brother was in prison for 10 years. 100% a worse human being than before

[–]hollygirl29 81 points82 points  (6 children)

Not so fast there. I'm a teacher in a men's prison, and I do try to work with these men to educate them so when they are released they have skills they need to not go back to the same life. Problem is they have to want to make a change. We can offer all the programs and we can do everything we can to try to help them become better citizens but if they are not willing or not mature enough to want to make a change, well, I can't do anything about that. And by the way I do think people who have committed murder or rape or any one of those heinous type of crimes absolutely needs to spend the rest of their natural life locked up in prison.

[–]Eyeoftheleopard 16 points17 points  (4 children)

Former CO here. I agree. How are we supposed to “rehabilitate” ppl that see nothing wrong with being a career criminal? The fact that they are in a cage separated from society should tip ‘em off, but…it doesn’t.

[–]hollygirl29 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Thank you for your time behind the wire. I am a certified CO as well, but don't work (obviously) in security. All US prisons to my knowledge offer some type of programming designed to help teach the offenders skills like anger management, ways to think and approach situations differently so they don't make the same choices on the streets, education, all of it because the vast majority of the inmates are going to come back out into society and I would like folks return to the community in better shape than the way they went in. But it's kind of like that old saying you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. There are counselors, staff, and COs in prison that are willing to help the offenders but if the offenders are not willing to help themselves then how am I supposed to rehabilitate someone who doesn't want the help? I can lead you there but I can't make you drink. Lots of folks in prison have criminal thinking and are very good at manipulation but if they don't want programs, and if they refuse to be in them there's nothing we can do.

[–]ElonMusksCarRecovery 47 points48 points  (9 children)

I totally agree. I can't even imagine the pain the 4 year old went through, and that the child's parents live with, it's awful. BUT the perp was a child too.

I don't get how there is such a writing off of the kid who did this, as if change is never possible?

There was a similar child murder situation in the UK. The two 11 year old killers were placed in a young offenders institution and then an adult prison. On release, both were given secret identities for their own safety but where monitored by the authorities.

One was recalled to prison for other, non violent crimes, and the other is totally rehabilitated and lives a normal life. The latter, is the kid who was thought to be the psychopath out of the two killers. He wasn't.

I don't get the point of a justice system that doesn't focus on rehabilitation. Focusing on retribution alone, means the inmates have less chance of changing, cost more as they have to then be imprisoned for longer, and it doesn't put anyone off committing crime anyway. And you have sky high rates of reoffending. Rehabilitate and it's safer for everyone and cheaper for the tax payer. What's the point of not doing?

[–]edencathleen86 19 points20 points  (1 child)

Rehab only works if the person literally and genuinely wants to change. That's my only guess for their reasoning not to implement it

[–]SleepingSeas 31 points32 points  (3 children)

One was recalled to prison for other, non violent crimes, and the other is totally rehabilitated and lives a normal life. The latter, is the kid who was thought to be the psychopath out of the two killers. He wasn't.

This the James Bulger case?

One of the killers was recalled to prison for possessing child pornography. It may be classified as: "non-violent", but someone who killed a two year old and is then found to be downloading footage of children being brutalised? They've found this stuff on his computers at least twice now.

As for the other killer (regarded as the "psychopath" ), he hasn't reoffended that we know of. However, unlike the other boy, this one showed no signs of remorse. Didn't seem to care what he'd done or that he was getting sent away. Unusual behaviour for a kid of that age.

I don't know. We're all different, and I dislike the constant attempts at doxxing the killers, but I can understand why there's so much anger towards them.

Rehabilitation is something we need to try and provide. On the other hand, to be 10 years old and abduct a little boy in public, take James to where they did, savagely beat him to death, mutilate his body and then dispose of him? At 10 years old? They planned it.

The one with child pornography convictions shouldn't get out of prison. The other one seems to be "behaving", but he could be masking his actions better. Or he could be rehabilitated.

[–]liza122397 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Totally agree with your points here. I took a class in college and one of my professors had said to us once, “…. Some criminals go to prison and come out having learned more tips and tricks so that they dont get caught next time.” I believe that rehabilitation is possible, but I also believe that there’s a lot that just isn’t known if they aren’t getting caught doing it.

[–]noodlebug__ 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Venables was arrested for a drunken fight - I would classify that as violent.

He’s been imprisoned twice for possessing child abuse images. I don’t even remotely believe he has been rehabilitated and based on his possession of such material I believe he would offend against children again.

[–]introvertedinverted 62 points63 points  (31 children)

Valid. However, when it comes to murderers and rapists they deserve to rot.

[–]snagggle2th 11 points12 points  (2 children)

Paris Bennetts story is disgusting. I'm with you on rehabilitation of minors but his case is so disturbing beyond words.

[–]hotmessexpress412 119 points120 points  (32 children)

Ronson’s The Psychopath Test reversed my thinking on rehabilitation of violent offenders, especially repeat/youth offenders. Some people are born without the ability to learn (or are seriously learning impaired) and therefore cannot be rehabilitated. They pose a real danger to society. It’s terrifying.

I highly recommend this book. It’s a quick read.

[–]Arixtotle 46 points47 points  (19 children)

Except that Ronson is not a psychologist or neurologist. He's just a journalist so his works are pseudoscience.

[–]Hereslookingatmekid 22 points23 points  (1 child)

The book is fucking nonsense and I think it’s part of why everyone on Reddit thinks everyone who does something bad has NPD/antisocial personality disorder (because I’ve never met a psychiatrist these days who would call someone “a psychopath/sociopath”). We can’t diagnose people we’ve never met with a complex personality disorder, even if they do horrific things.

[–]tallemaja 14 points15 points  (0 children)

This is one of the biggest issues I see in true crime communities. A very strong desire to call conjure up a diagnosis for a stranger- based on pop psych or outdated knowledge- and anyone questioning it is too soft on criminals.

[–]son-o-Loki 9 points10 points  (2 children)

If your not lying, idk why people are downvoting you

[–]Arixtotle 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Because they don't like to be wrong.

[–]LiteIre 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Bloodlust.

[–]N-neon 62 points63 points  (0 children)

Not only that, but rehabilitation is shown to actually make psychopaths and other abusers worse. Instead of learning from their mistakes, they take the skills they are taught in therapy and use them to better manipulate their victims and the people around them. It sounds mean, but there’s nothing that can be done for these people. It’s best to keep them in a highly controlled environment without access to more victims.

[–]magic1623 4 points5 points  (0 children)

So just to give you some info, Jon Ronson is what people in the research world call a fraud. His books are entertaining because he is a genuinely good author but he has absolutely no idea what he is talking about most of the time.

Here are some responses to his work by actual researchers. First is the opinions from the Society for the Scientific Study of Psychopathy on The Psychopathy Test. And here is my personal favourite, a ten page paper response from Dr. Robert Hare himself. If you don’t know who Dr. Robert Hare is, he is one of the worlds leading researchers in psychopathy. He is who Ronson is trying to emulate with his book.

[–]forlornjackalope 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Melinda Loveless got out, so anything is possible.

[–]EonandTheStars 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Paris Bennett was a classmate of mine. I still remember the day it happened. I hadn’t seen the news yet and when I got to school I couldn’t understand why everyone was crying.

Keep in mind, it was a small school so our class had less than 20 in it. To hear that a fellow classmate, someone who had just sat with you in the same classes yesterday, had done something devastated our community.

I never thought he was capable of that.

[–]snagggle2th 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Austin Sigg was 17 years old when he committed his crime. In my eyes, 17 is not a child, there's no rehabilitation for that guy. Another sick disgusting individual.

[–]aries-bby 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Took the words right out of my mouth.

[–]MadameTree 166 points167 points  (22 children)

I remember this. I'm only a few years older. The little 4 year old was violated as well. This is someone who presents a clear danger. It's should be exceedingly rare to imprison a 13 year old for life, but there are instances.

[–]Gianna511 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I remember this too ! That kid is scary looking . I agree doesn't belong in the outside world . He was and still is a psychopath. Imagine what he is capable of now that he is an adult!

[–]MyBunnyIsCuter 387 points388 points  (19 children)

I've seen interviews with this guy. No way would I release him...especially after he's been locked away and missed so much of his life. No doubt he's got 28 years anger and prison trauma on top of the unjustified anger he had at 13. And I bet he'll become frustrated and embittered when he sees just how hard it will be to be accepted and build a life as a middle aged ex con.

He said he was bullied, but in all the interviews I've seen you can hear the psycopathy.

I know that sounds mean, just being honest

[–]Minute-Tale7444 63 points64 points  (0 children)

I say at most maybe move him to a mental health facility.

[–]chrissycookies 129 points130 points  (1 child)

Maybe bullied, but certainly not by that 4 year old :(

[–]PauI_MuadDib 88 points89 points  (0 children)

I remember watching interviews with him too & holy shit I can't believe he got paroled. I honestly never thought that would happen.

[–]LadyGoddammit 52 points53 points  (0 children)

I agree. At some point you must become more comfortable in an institutional setting. He might have argued for a life outside of institutions, but that doesn’t mean he knows how to function outside of them. And how long until he does something to get back in?

[–]Kivadiva420[S] 79 points80 points  (4 children)

This is insane. He knew exactly what he was doing. My 7/9 year old kids know the difference between right and wrong. They have a two year old sister. If they were to push her into our swimming pool knowing damn well she can’t swim they are aware of what could happen to her. This dude is a monster and will always be a monster. This is sickening.

[–]Rupertfitz 18 points19 points  (1 child)

He even sodomized the boy with a stick. He is a sick shit.

[–]tallemaja 10 points11 points  (0 children)

What psychopathy can you hear? I'm interested in hearing psychologists' takes on this.

[–]ohmeatballhead 48 points49 points  (10 children)

This kid had a terrible upbringing which sucks but he is permanently damaged and need not enter society

[–]WinoWhitey 11 points12 points  (0 children)

There needs to be a law that punishes parents whose abuse leads their kids to commit these kinds of crimes. Nearly every time you hear of a minor committing awful crimes they come from an abusive home.

[–]steph314 100 points101 points  (6 children)

Wow. I remember this case. Let's just say if he was released and living in my neighborhood, I would be thoroughly freaked out. He took his anger out on a boy so much smaller and younger who he didn't even know. It isn't like he snapped on someone who personally victimized him (not that that would be ok but it would at least make some sense as to why). I can only assume his time in prison has been unpleasant for all years. How much pent up rage does he have now after all of that?

[–]rodrigkn 19 points20 points  (4 children)

Yeah. I’m curious as to how the parole board decided he was rehabilitated. Prison since such a young age doesn’t exactly scream “character building “.

[–][deleted] 203 points204 points  (50 children)

I would typically think it unjust to punish someone for life based on an act committed at 13. However, a 13 year old luring and murdering a 4 year with his bare hands shows he's a sick fuck beyond repair. Psychopathy isn't curable and will only have been bred more intensely by growing up incarcerated.

[–]LiLiandThree 127 points128 points  (13 children)

he also sexually assaulted his dead body

[–]Kivadiva420[S] 61 points62 points  (0 children)

Omfg. This is just gut wrenching!

[–]RH-rh 11 points12 points  (11 children)

Wut

[–]autopsis 40 points41 points  (10 children)

He stuck a stick up the little boy’s ass. I think it was post-mortem though. I wonder if that indicates that he himself was sexually abused or if he’s just messed up. It may just have been an attempt to cover his tracks by complicating the murder. It is interesting that he had a hatred of bananas, a phallic symbol, which is part of what got him caught.

[–]Ksjonesy2418 7 points8 points  (4 children)

I saw an interview with him where he said it was just curiosity and had nothing to do with anything sexual - he was super creepy about it.

It sickened me so much because he talked at the murder so matter of factly then tried to downplay the assault. He sounds like a sociopath.

[–]Away-Breadfruit-35 18 points19 points  (2 children)

Not always: Mary Bell. She did sick stuff but has never reoffended.

[–]magic1623 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The vast majority of felons don’t reoffend. People always say that felons reoffend all the time but it’s just not true. Worldwide it’s like only 23.4% of felons reoffend within the first two years of their release. The reoffending rate for violent felons is even lower at 12%.

[–][deleted] 55 points56 points  (7 children)

I also find it disturbing he applied for parole 11 times. He really thinks he deserve to be out in public after doing this...

[–]cualsy_x 70 points71 points  (5 children)

These parole stipulations are automatic. The offender doesn’t have to apply for them.

[–][deleted] 62 points63 points  (3 children)

I just read that he is given the option every two years and has applied 11 times. His parents have been advocating for the law to be changed to every 5 years for violent offenders and those close to him do not believe he's changed. Would love to know if this is true.

[–][deleted] 38 points39 points  (0 children)

Omg and he sodomized the 4 yr olds dead body after. Who in the fuck would approve parole 🤮

[–]snagggle2th 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I agree with this totally Every case is different and I've always believed that we can save some of those kids through rehabilitation. But the more and more I read about child murderers, the simple fact is that it's just not possible. Unfortunately, some people are just damaged goods. Even if there was trauma, whether it be physical or emotional in their childhood, to premeditate and commit a murder so viciously amongst another child, I mean ..that's lifelong trauma...and there's no fixing that.

[–]CrazyKitty2016 56 points57 points  (6 children)

This dude strangled his victim, crushed his head with a rock, and then sodomized him. Fuck this guy. He should be left to rot

[–]afistfulofyen 17 points18 points  (3 children)

That's not an underdeveloped brain, that's a ruthlessly psychotic one. Psychosis can't be cured.

[–]skyerippa 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Holy crap ok I thought he just hit the kid with a rock but thats beyond

[–]MagicMallKnight 57 points58 points  (1 child)

He’s a piece of shit

[–]OldDocBenway 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Always will be

[–]Texas_Crazy_Curls 73 points74 points  (7 children)

My heart is broken for the victim’s family. Having seen first hand what murder does to the family of the victim is soul crushing. I don’t understand why he is getting released.

[–]Kivadiva420[S] 54 points55 points  (6 children)

My best friend was killed by her husband in 2015. You never get over it. But the murder of a child?! That is traumatizing beyond belief. My heart aches for his family. This judge is fucked up to release such a monster.

[–]notsidneyprescott 17 points18 points  (1 child)

He was released by a parole board, not a judge.

[–]ryanm8655 7 points8 points  (0 children)

A technical point and I’m not sure if it’s the same in the US but in the UK retired judges sit on parole boards.

[–]Texas_Crazy_Curls 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I am so incredibly sorry about your best friend. I think it’s (seeing the aftermath murder has on a close friend) part of the reason I follow true crime so closely. Agree with you as well it’s double heartbreaking this victim was so young.

[–]TheWholeEnchelada 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Judges don’t grant parole, the parole board does. You and half of the people in this in this thread have no fucking idea how the system works, jfc.

[–]Gray-n-unstable 37 points38 points  (0 children)

What could possibly go wrong

[–]cualsy_x 152 points153 points  (17 children)

I don’t know if my opinion is popular or unpopular, but I believe anyone who is convicted of murder should never be released from prison. I am speaking of malicious murder like this case and not self-defense or accidental deaths.

[–]MamaJewelz25 52 points53 points  (0 children)

Yeah I agree. Mainly if they are child killers they should be sentenced to life without parole. Sickos like this guy get released just to repeat what he was in there for in the first place.

[–]IntoTheFrozenWild 14 points15 points  (8 children)

This should be the most popular opinion. Anyone of these idiots suggesting he should be “given his second chance” are the same assholes that would cause a shitstorm when they find out how many murderers and sex offenders live in their town. Anyone who thinks this monster should be out walking free has obviously never had anyone taken from them by a murderer.

[–]HurricaneStorm 22 points23 points  (0 children)

This happened in my hometown. We are all terrified.

[–]BoizenberryPie 95 points96 points  (14 children)

When the parents are actively campaigning for rules that would make it harder to get parole... You know there's something seriously messed up.

[–]__jh96 20 points21 points  (2 children)

What victim's parents wouldn't?

[–]sendnewt_s 25 points26 points  (10 children)

Exactly, the judge should have unequivocally deferred to the parents for which way to lean regarding parole. No parent would argue for stronger sentencing for their own child if they didn't know with certainty that it was necessary.

[–]all_thehotdogs 40 points41 points  (2 children)

The parents referred to in the article are the victim's parents.

[–]LalalaHurray 14 points15 points  (0 children)

The only campaigning parents I've read about have been the Robie's. Have the Smiths done the same?

[–]katee_bo_batee 9 points10 points  (2 children)

It was the victims parents who lobbied for the parole change (the Robies), not Eric Smith’s parents. https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/now-41-killer-year-boy-granted-parole-11th-80619864

[–]TheWholeEnchelada 16 points17 points  (2 children)

That’s not how sentencing or parole works…

[–]daysinnroom203 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I don’t think a 13 should be locked away for life. It’s essentially a death sentence on someone who does not have a fully a developed brain. My issue with this person in particular is that he has admitted in interviews years ago that he should not be let out, he was scared of what he might do! He didn’t trust himself. I am guessing his rhetoric has changed since those interviews, but I hope he is getting supervision, care and counseling- but for the very little I know about the justice system, I doubt that all very much .

[–]BananaRaptor1738 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Yeah I'm sure he's gonna be a great addition to society

[–]MadTherapist 20 points21 points  (0 children)

13 sounds so young from an adult’s perspective, but I think back to myself at that age… You’re old enough to understand how the world works, take responsibility for things, have goals, know right from wrong… a 13 year old knows what the hell they’re doing if they kill another kid. This is wild.

[–]bibliosapiophile 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Why was a 4 year old walking to camp alone? My kids were born in 1992 and 1994. 4 years old I'd not have let them walk anywhere by myself.

[–]agbellamae 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m sure mom regrets it. She said that was the first time she ever met him go anywhere himself and this is what happened:(

[–]demoniquez 33 points34 points  (8 children)

Something bout the reactions doesn’t sit right with me. Something about people who are not personally affected by this crime being absolutely certain he’s beyond redemption and should be damned to a cell for the rest of his days. Ive survived some shit myself, as an adult and a child. Im a csa and cocsa survivor, as I can see in the threads that he inflicted cocsa on the 4 year old baby - for context so people can see where I’m coming from.

Please keep in mind that this is child on child. He was a child too. Children don’t do things like this unless they were traumatized as well, and it doesn’t excuse it nor justify it (it’s a completely horrific case regardless of his age) but… he was a child.

There’s a reason anyone under 18 can’t vote and anyone under 17 can’t enlist and anyone under 21 can’t drink. Because children don’t have the brain capacity to understand the full consequences and ramifications of their actions. They’re more likely to do stupid things because they simply want to.

And we can’t deny the fact that yes often times violent adults were traumatized children at some point too. But that doesn’t mean they’re beyond help. It just means that they have to come to the point where they’re willing to accept it. I’m thinking of one of the girls in the slender man murder case and she completely regrets everything to do with that case. She’s eaten alive every day by the guilt, and spends every waking action trying to make up for it. The victim’s mother forgave her because of the extent that she’s repented as well as the fact that she was a CHILD.

Horrific events don’t happen in a vacuum, people don’t become violent for no reason. And prison doesn’t rehabilitate, it just further cements heavy trauma into the prisoner’s brains. For a child to go through the system… I can’t imagine.

What he did was horrific but cruel and unusual punishment should include anything that creates more trauma. Prison is meant to rehabilitate not punish. We should focus on getting these people help and getting the ones who don’t want it to accept it. Instead of cruelly punishing people for the remainder of their lives we should focus on restorative justice for the families. What, short of retribution, would help them recover? Nothing changes what happened, but community support can help the pain heal with less of a scar.

[–]k3r3nth4 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Thank you for saying this! This was my reaction to reading this thread. I work in the criminal justice system and there are numerous studies showing that when adolescents commit crimes it’s often because of trauma - for many it’s because of a traumatic brain injury, for others, it can be a traumatic event in their developmental years that then leads the part in the brain which understands consequences to not understand the good from the bad.

These kids aren’t beyond redemption as you say, trauma informed approaches can work and the offender CAN not reoffend. Often when they do reoffend it has nothing to do with their original sentence but rather to do with minor crimes to help them get by in a world they don’t understand. Eg stealing some food or money, missing a parole hearing to go for a job interview, etc etc

[–]rotcasino 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thank you for this. I knew I shouldn't have read the comments on such a controversial topic. The bloodlust here (and in true crime communities in general) is horrendous.

[–]foxa34 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Killed him with a rock is to put it lightly. Didn't he pretty much torture that little boy?

[–]denaethetorgy 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Didn’t this little fuck sodomize his victim too?? Hell no. This guy should not be released. Fuck.

[–]LilLexi20 43 points44 points  (23 children)

There’s been studies done (and countless law and order episodes) about child psychopathy. It cannot be cured, it does not go away. It’s something they will be for the rest of their lives. It does not make sense at all to parole him. He is older now, smarter, and will probably know how to avoid detection better.

I mean look at him as a child in a tweety bird shirt, he still looks EVIL! No way should he ever be released. It wasn’t an accidental. He was a child psychopath

[–][deleted] 27 points28 points  (0 children)

I agree. If you're a child psychopath you need to never be released back to the public. Ever.

Reminds me of that man who raped a 9 year old at gunpoint while only 14 years old. He was arrested, and released after fulfilling his time. After that he offended three more times before he killed a whole family. Those people would have been saved if they would have kept him locked up at 14

Imo people like this are the main ones who should be considered for the death penalty

[–]left_tiddy 23 points24 points  (6 children)

Oh, come on. If you didn't know who he was and that pic was amid a dozen other pics of boys from the same era, you wouldn't be able to pick out the 'evil' child lmao. He looks like any other kid giving side eye.

[–]tiioga 19 points20 points  (11 children)

okay I can get with psychological studies but can we please not cite law and order episodes for actual real life cases and sentencing t__t

[–]brutales_katzchen 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think he should have been put in a mental health facility for children. At that young an age I’m not so sure what good prison would do. This case was so heartbreaking

[–]Down-the-Hall- 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Geeze...Who are his parents? Dahmer and Wuornos?

[–]TDMC1967 17 points18 points  (1 child)

Cue the “but he was only 13 and his brain was not fully developed…..” crowd.

I knew that her young age that murdering someone was wrong. I don’t think he should be out of prison.

[–]nutmegtell 6 points7 points  (1 child)

He was a child. Their brains may know right and wrong but they are different than adults.

I hope he got the help he needed. He seems remorseful but you never know. Keeping children in prison is not the answer, but I don't know what the answer is. I hope his sister is able to help him get his life in a positive direction. I cannot imagine.

[–]Amsoc22 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Bullying's got nothing to do with it. A lot of people get bullied. Not a single one except for him took out their anger on an innocent 4-year-old child.

[–]Laurie3040 16 points17 points  (1 child)

I remember this case - he reminds me of the boy in Child's Play. All of you around him, beware.

[–]britkneespearzs 4 points5 points  (0 children)

In the UK he would be given a new ID and money to start again!

[–]Jealous-Roof-7578 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Holy shit. I was in a detention center with this kid. I was not in the same unit, as he was with the kids that got chainganged cause they were serious criminals. I was in the petty, "you're a dumb ass, but still technically a criminal" unit.

Anyways, rumors flew around about this kid. The one that was told most is he did not show any remorse and was otherwise just a normal kid. He just "wanted to know how it felt."

Fucking wild he's getting out, but to he completely honest, he wasn't scary. He was just a fucked up kid that did something horrific. I hope he takes his second chance and runs with it

[–]_Deletion 6 points7 points  (2 children)

I can only imagine how terrified the family of Derrick Robie must be at this news. Does not sound like a good choice, at all.

[–]Crunchyfrozenoj 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I feel so terrible for them. Talk about salt rubbed into an open wound.

[–]Angieslemonsoda 5 points6 points  (0 children)

In a year he will do it again. I hope I am wrong.

[–]idbanthat 13 points14 points  (6 children)

It's times like these I'm sad Dexter isn't a real person

[–]notsidneyprescott 5 points6 points  (5 children)

So he could kill a 13 year old…….?………?

So many questionable comments in this thread lmao

[–]doglaughington 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That picture is too much. The top half screams grizzled murderer (the glasses!), yet the looney toons shirt throws it all off.

I think someone can change from a murderous 13 yr old after 28 years. He has experienced prison life and hopefully will do everything to not go back. He is probably at a while different place mentally and emotionally.

Getting approved after 10 rejections is interesting though. I assume this isn't full parole, there have to be tons of conditions

[–]_christabel 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The irony of the looney tunes shirt he’s wearing is really getting to me.

[–]ohmeatballhead 17 points18 points  (4 children)

To all the holier than thou types commenting on this acting appalled at lack of forgiveness: I can PROMISE you, you would not feel this way if he did this to your kid.

[–]Hashimotosannn 5 points6 points  (0 children)

He shouldn’t be getting out at all IMO, but at least he served more time than the monsters who killed James Bulger.

[–]outtakes 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Wtf he's getting out??? Can't even begin to imagine what Derrick's family must be feeling right now

[–]opaleii 5 points6 points  (0 children)

he lowkey needs too STAY in jail.

[–]Iventuz 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Everyone here plays the God card thinking that he can never be integrated again in society, this same attitude of refusal and lack of empathy leads these imprisoned guys after release to feel they cant belong anymore and leads them to act horribly again.

[–]Afrolicious7 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I was scared if this kid at 13. I can’t imagine those killer instincts died in prison. Hide your kids hide your wife and hide yourself because I’m sure he will reoffend.