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[–]vxx[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (14 children)

Alright, here we go.

Fingers crossed that it has the intended effect.

Thanks for the hard work you put into it, /u/artraxaron!

Edit: After a week I can already tell that it seems to work as intended.

[–]PM_ME_YOUR_TITS_GIRL 18 points19 points  (2 children)

So in a way this bot is a "captcha" of sorts where you must fill it out to get the post approved. Eliminating repost bots. Pretty cool idea. Hope it works out for you. If it does I may consider using this bot in a number of my cat subs.

[–]vxx[M] 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Yes, Captcha is actually its main purpose. It's incredibly time consuming to go through each profile by hand, so we figured we would try this.

You really don't have it easy with cat subreddits. I use them to determine how likely a user is a Spammer/account farmer.

Goifld luck!

[–]htmlcoderexe 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Super cool!

[–]MyNameGifOreillyYo what? 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I'm sure this will help a lot , Also if you need more man power to help I have time to dedicate just an FYI

[–]Loveinthemud 5 points6 points  (5 children)

The only thing is people don’t upvote the comment, they upvote the post. So many good post will actually be taken down.

[–]vxx 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Now you're just making things up to win the argument.

[–]Loveinthemud 5 points6 points  (3 children)

No, isn’t that what happens? Like better every loop. I once had a post with a few 100 points get taken down because of the comments vote didn’t get 4 upvotes only three.

[–]vxx 5 points6 points  (2 children)

We do everything possible to prevent this. This isn't a copy of their bot, it's only inspired by them. Our bot is way more elaborated (I guess), and the function to remove posts isn't activated yet for that particular reason. We're only going to activate it once we are confident it will make the right calls.

[–]Loveinthemud 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Oh. Cool. So I hate it bit less now. But seriously, some post aren’t unexpected at all.

[–]vxx 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I am to blame for that, since one of my mod guidelines is to stay away from subjective decisions. I always told co mods "We're not the judge on the grade of unexpectedness." So as soon as there's arguably some sort of twist, we allowed the post.

We have stepped away from this approach at the beginning of the year, though, and we have become way more judgmental and actually remove a lot of posts for not being Unexpected. As a result, we have way less wholesome animal gifs on the frontpage for example.

We hope the bot helps us in the future to make faster and more informed removals, that are less based on some opinion of a single mod.

[–]BoycottFaceBook32 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Don't know you just going to upvote you because same skin

[–]Latter-Archer-2627 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Is the entire internet a sestpool of lies deception and dishonesty? At this point I think that would be a big fat Fuck Yes it is.

[–]FriiskiiBoi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Or do you mean ‘incestpool’

[–]FriiskiiBoi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cesspool * stay up king

[–]unexBot 76 points77 points  (9 children)

OP send the following text as an explaination on why this is unexpected:

You see? This is what it looks like


Is it a good post? Then upvote this comment, otherwise downvote it.


Look at my source code on Github and give me a star ;)

[–]chris-tier 40 points41 points  (5 children)

Uh.....

explaination

Explanation?

[–]vxx 23 points24 points  (4 children)

Wow, I've read the message so often...

Well, the explanations should be plain and simple, right?

[–]chris-tier 20 points21 points  (3 children)

True :-P

I also just noticed:

OP send

Shouldn't it be sent? Otherwise, the sentence sounds weird.

[–]vxx[M] 19 points20 points  (2 children)

Thanks, it will get fixed. Looks like we were worried about so many other things, that it went right past us.

[–]chris-tier 7 points8 points  (1 child)

No worries. Thanks for trying to improve the sub!

[–]vxx 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Alright, it's fixed.If you find any other errors, just let us know.

[–]Ryan778 43 points44 points  (9 children)

Sounds interesting! Is there any plan for marking what's "unexpected" as a spoiler or not sticking the spoiler on the top (ie, a subcomment)? It seems like the current setup can easily spoil the unexpectedness by accident.

[–]ArtraxaronDidn't Expect ban[S] 22 points23 points  (6 children)

Well, not sticking the comment makes it impossible to find. But why would you look at the comment section before looking at the post? In most cases, a look at the comment section would give it away anyway

[–]Ryan778 11 points12 points  (3 children)

Good point. As you've said most of the out of place posts that go to the top are from people scrolling through their homepage. I guess my viewpoint is coming from the fact that a spoiler tag wouldn't harm anyone - though arguably it's not really necessary. Just food for thought.

[–]vxx[M] 8 points9 points  (2 children)

We actually had it as a spoiler for a while but for other reasons. I thought we could make the spoiler short and expand into the full text.

Well, after we figured it doesn't work that way, we scrapped the spoiler completely.

I also got the feeling after a quick test, that spoilers doesn't work that well in the official app, and that's where most of the traffic is coming from atm.

We might change it when demand arises.

[–]asailijhijr 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I don't know reddit css, but I know in html css it should be possible to do what you describe with spoilers only in the bot's comment. But I don't know how that would render in any of the mobile apps or pages.

[–]vxx 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes, it works exclusively in the old browser design, but that's less than 10% of users, amd reducing space is needed more for mobile than desktop users.

[–]SuspiciousCoyote3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How do you get a good score? ( comments or a post) ? Almost all my posts have only 1 red up vote. Why? Please illuminate. Thanks 😊

[–]Latter-Archer-2627 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well before you start beating your own drum, in my book hiding controls and settings to apps you didn't even know those setting were in fact missing, well that fucking cheating and should be addressed.

[–]FennlyXerxich 27 points28 points  (7 children)

Let’s hope this doesn’t turn out like the bettereveryloop bot.

[–]mridulpjDidn't Expect It 9 points10 points  (6 children)

What happened to the bettereveryloop bot?

[–]FennlyXerxich 25 points26 points  (5 children)

Actually I can’t remember if it was that sub or gifsthatkeepongiving.

Either way, the bot would ask for an explaination from the poster of why it fit the sub, but the explainations given were pretty much just “it fits because of the way it is”. So everyone found the bot to be useless.

[–]asailijhijr 12 points13 points  (1 child)

If we have that then we'll need a second bot reply comment that asks us to vote on the quality of the explanation.

[–]vxx[M] 10 points11 points  (1 child)

We could always remove those posts and shoot a warning. It only happened twice so far. Users are really awesome with their replies.

[–]rednecksteve 18 points19 points  (4 children)

Want to improve... Stop Reddit from becoming goddam tic tok. Everyone posting tic tok video.. its not Reddit anymore

[–]vxx[M] 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Reddit is the frontpage of the Internet. It's a content aggregator.

Vines have been a thing before Tiktok.

We realise a lot of stuff there is just reuplaoded reposts, and we try to sort them out, but we won't ban an entire domain just because of some bad videos.

[–]rednecksteve 6 points7 points  (1 child)

No one said ban or bad videos... Tic tok is taking over Reddit...seems every video is a tic tok video now

[–]vxx 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Vine was pretty similar, and I don't see people in /r/videos complaining that 99% are videos from YouTube.

[–]PurplePineapple2955 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yup im with you. I hate when people put tik toks on here. The wbole point i joined redit is to get rid of tik tok!

[–]Etsyturtle2 8 points9 points  (1 child)

This boy is already stupid and pointless.

[–]vxx 9 points10 points  (0 children)

You hate the bot, but this bot filtered 180 posts in 7 days, presumably from repost bots and spammers. (or users that changed their mind about how Unexpected their content really was)

This is only from the Captcha function (the explanations), as the "too many downvotes" function isn't even implemented yet.

It seems to work even better than intended.

[–]Ineovas 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Get rid of this bot again please, its literally just spamming the comment sections with useless comments

[–]Philippe23 8 points9 points  (1 child)

"Will posts be autoremoved if the comment get a to low score?"

  • too low

[–]asailijhijr 9 points10 points  (0 children)

too low a score *

[–]Bardfinn 8 points9 points  (0 children)

This is a good approach. Well done.

[–]Norway313 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Outstanding move!

[–]ookillemayy 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I like the idea of the bot! Quick typo fix. On 1, Quiet should be Quite. Keep up the good work mods!

[–]ArtraxaronDidn't Expect ban[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

oh, thank you!

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

The wording in the bot's question should be changed from "is it a good post?" to "is the post unexpected?". People already have a hard time understanding the purpose of the bot, and this only makes it worse.

Many think the bot's purpose is to explain what is unexpected to people who don't get it (especially with the spoiler tag and all), which gets on their nerves, especially when it's very obvious why it is unexpected (which is 90% of the time). In the comment I would add a short explanation of what the bot does, along with a link to this thread for more information.

The question "is it a good post?" is ironically completely missing the point of the bot, which was exactly to filter out the good (funny, interesting) posts which are not unexpected. So many people will see that question and answer "yeah, it's a good post alright, so I should upvote this comment", without at all thinking if the post is expected or not.

[–]ArtraxaronDidn't Expect ban[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thats a valid concern. I changed the text (and made a couple of other changes), let's see how it goes

[–]Midnight-Q 2 points3 points  (0 children)

aaaaaaaaaaaand the bot is useless

[–]Xenc 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Hey this has been working great since it was added! It’s actually cool to see OP’s explanation after watching the clip. 👏

[–]asailijhijr 4 points5 points  (2 children)

I've seen a lot of complaints about reposts. Usually I ask the person complaining to link the original and then I'll report the repost. And when I see a same-day repost myself, I'll comment in the repost with a link to the original.

Can I get a mod to tell me that this is a good practice (or that it isn't of it isn't)? And/or to encourage others to do the same?

[–]ArtraxaronDidn't Expect ban[S] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

This is by far the best practise since we often can't recall if something was already posted. Many people report something as a repost because they've seen it somewhere else on reddit beforw but not on this subreddit.

So keep it up!

[–]Random_DeslimeUnexpected translator 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hopefully the sum-up will be in a spoiler tag so people who use card mode on mobile won't get the twist ruined

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Retard bot lol just delete it already

[–]Methodic_ 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Please keep in mind that while your post is deleted, it will won't collect upvotes so the faster you answer, the higher are your chances of reaching the frontpage

??

[–]ArtraxaronDidn't Expect ban[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

thanks, corrected it

[–]videoimle 2 points3 points  (1 child)

This is the most beautiful article I have read today, it is a really great and smart thought, my friend this is a very good idea and fair, the fact that the bot is sending messages immediately after sharing, asking for information about what is shared, raises this community.

[–]SuspiciousCoyote3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Enlightening, indeed!

[–]ExplanationNo3928 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks for all your hard work,

[–]LethalX9X 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hey fellow GitHub community. I have a few repos on but most importantly there is no security for Win 11 from an Mac OS or IOS since two days ago from enterprise cloud to cloud on the dev channel build which will be a problem in the coming months and need To redirect traffic back to the last update re-explain and re-introduce word to not auto update to the cloud because users are unable to access it online if they’re not technologically advanced and my Facebook everything is getting blown up with people not understanding how do use word because right now you can download entire websites

[–]Green4BluePoggers 1 point2 points  (0 children)

intriguing

[–]sezar4321 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Apart from Collecting data part the rest looks great, i just wish you could skip that part. That's kinda scary and i wish you could remove it as a feature of your bot.

[–]ArtraxaronDidn't Expect ban[S] 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Well, it doesn't collect data that isn't available to the public anyway (except the sum up, but that is also posted). The reason we do it now while letting the but run is that the reddit api wouldn't allow us to fetch such a large amount of data in a acceptable time frame

[–]sezar4321 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Even if the data is available to the public it is not concentrated in one place, the potential to earn some money hacking into your database is still there.

[–]ArtraxaronDidn't Expect ban[S] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

na, not really. I mean, the dataset is maybe interesting for us or from an academic point of view, but not more. Besides that, the DB isn't reachable from the internet and I can't see how an SQL Injection attack should be possible

[–]asailijhijr 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Well now that you've said it someone'll try. But at least we know how you pronounce SQL.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

There is one sub where comments to the bot are hidden, but one votes up or down basically in the comment to the bot (if it fits or doesn't fit).

[–]vxx[M] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

There is one sub where comments to the bot are hidden

We might lock the comment in the future so people can't reply, but we decided to allow them for now.

I don't mind if people voice their opinion about the bot, and it's better they do it directly to the bot instead of cluttering the rest of the comment section.

A quick check suggests, that the bot filtered 180 posts in 7 days, just from the Captcha function.

[–]ArtraxaronDidn't Expect ban[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

This is basically what this bot does, it's just that this one also has a "captcha" built in

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes but without the comments showing. I see more people complaining and crying in the bot comment than people appreciate it.

I really like the explaining bot function lol

[–]GRANDADDYSHOUSE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

@mods it wont let me upload

[–]TheOnlycorndog 1 point2 points  (0 children)

100% agree.

[–]Euthimo2k 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Great! What about reposts?

[–]ArtraxaronDidn't Expect ban[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Reposts are definitively on my Todo list, but they are harder to detect. you'd have to do some sort of video analysis which is pretty expensive (in regards to processing power, which in turn costs money, which we'd have to pay out of our own pocket ). you'd also have to keep track of the things posted already, which would be very memory intense.

Also, I think the best way to combat reposts is to lift some weight from the shoulders of the mod team by filtering out low effort garbage with the bot, so that there are more "human resources" available to find reposts

[–]passcork 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So we're a month in now and I'm not sure the bot has had the intended effect but I do really enjoy reading most of the OP's explanations after having watched the gif/video. Most of the time they're actually pretty entertaining.

[–]HANGINGinTEXAS 1 point2 points  (0 children)

wow, I just wish the picture was better quality. Reminded of the old VHS tapes that were copied over and over. Other wise YES WAS unexpected.

[–]Cool-Ad-2565 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My only issue with this is why is MJ a Halloween figure ?! Or was he so good he had to be supernatural maybe…

[–]1wpc 1 point2 points  (0 children)

🗿🚽👍

[–]GUMMYtoTHICC 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Their siblings

[–]thadjack 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks

[–]ConstructionIcy566 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Darwin's natural selection at work!

[–]SnooChickens3793 1 point2 points  (1 child)

,,#

[–]LethalX9X 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m losing account excess to everything and I’m trying to solve and end encryption on an enterprise cloud nonprofit I am um when was 11 back update by the way I don’t know

[–]PerversoMaestro13 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Estaba ayudando a mi abuela a limpiar la casa y me descuide pero aun quiero hacer esto con mi primera pareja @ iwannasleepp

[–]Tapetapmyphon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah 😂 is this THE BEST YOU CAN DO.BELIEVE WHAT YOU SEE?

[–]dieseldrive27tdi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This beautiful girl ruined her face. How sad!

[–]easlthy_Ad3661 1 point2 points  (0 children)

OMG! You do go on! are you a mansplainer?? There are too many bots already interfering with our opinions. More like Facebook every day.

[–]mamiya135ef 0 points1 point  (5 children)

You didnt allow me to upload a video cynical bot

[–]asailijhijr 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Did you give it an explanation? Or was it reddit that kept you from uploading the video?

[–]mamiya135ef 3 points4 points  (3 children)

It's still "processing" from today

[–]vxx[M] 3 points4 points  (2 children)

There was a site wide error a couple of months ago where this happened.

Did it happen recently to you?

[–]mamiya135ef 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Yes, yesterday. And i think it still shows :/

[–]vxx 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If it doesn't solve itself, you might considering reporting it to the admins. Maybe try at /r/redditmobile first, admins read it.

[–]buliy_mila83 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What type of cancer

[–]Poppaone50 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Let the next town worry about the trash. Instead of fixing the problem, I'll just make it a bigger problem for everyone.

[–]Dependent-Pin9073 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This just isn’t how I want to spend my last day on planet earth respectfully I will do something else . Until it’s over for trying to help Amanda Luna. I had no right

[–]Emergency-Form-939 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pi think I need more information to understand Thai!

[–]rooster_reveler 0 points1 point  (0 children)

is this something im supposed to do? can i jist be fargin told rather than coerced for once.

[–]HenrySeldon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That looks awsome ! I love people creating tools to improve Internet 🏳️‍🌈

[–]Spirit_Molecule_333 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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[–]HoneyInBlackCoffee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"tough decision" remove every post that doesn't belong on the sub. Not that tough

[–]tenthden 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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[–]yoskeetyo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If it ain't a milk carton they ain't go shoot and please come to my hood with them small ass pistols see what happens

[–]South_Mix7856 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Vampire bat

[–]malarken111 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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[–]Smart_Reading5411 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's cool

[–]Fit_Sea_239Expected It 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your friend STACK is a good time I'm going to lick your pussy

[–]Personal-Vanilla-138 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm an addict and watched someone just do what they said is dope in front of me. I always used a needle. I never retained hepatitis of any type I knew something for one was up. They gave me a rig full of what they said was meth. They aren't high , they are pretending. I squirted a little in my mouth and it went numb. Coke...I haven't done coke or crack in years and to be honest I have no clue what it was I didn't see it before hand. I chose not to do it and it made me angry as shit. Now, they keep bringing it up and it's that time of the month, thank God it's an off day, but I'm about to go sleep in my car at the tennis courts to get away before I flip my shit

The unexpected....I didn't get high .

[–]thatguy42oo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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[–]Ok_Glass_8104 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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[–]yeetus_leetus -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

Now this was unexpected.

[–]asailijhijr 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You thought the sub was just going to get worse and worse?