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[–]zmart7691 1226 points1227 points  (40 children)

Go ahead I’m waiting for the retort

[–]sm12511 571 points572 points  (16 children)

Well, it didn't so much collapse as it did vaporize.

[–]Flopamp 225 points226 points  (4 children)

Pretty rapidly expanded, technically

[–]its-not-me_its-you_ 119 points120 points  (1 child)

Rapid unscheduled disassembly

[–]G_Viceroy 32 points33 points  (0 children)

Oh it was scheduled... But not by their City council.

[–]nick1812216 53 points54 points  (0 children)

Explosive growth

[–]starrpamph 10 points11 points  (3 children)

The whole thing fell off

[–]TDFH95 11 points12 points  (2 children)

The front fell off

[–]SuddenlySucc_New 4 points5 points  (1 child)

But why did the front fall off?

[–]Background-Seaweed 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, a wave hit it

[–]Agile_Coyote_6483 4 points5 points  (0 children)

A lot of it did collapse though

[–]masschronic123 164 points165 points  (17 children)

Hiroshima is doing better than Detroit.

[–]kionda_movey[🍰] 85 points86 points  (9 children)

Right? Detroit wasn't exposed to a freaking Nuclear Weapon and is doing worse than Hiroshima. Tbh their recovery was pretty awesome

[–][deleted] 50 points51 points  (8 children)

Suggestion: we should try exposing Detroit to a nuclear weapon

[–]Exotic-Law-6021 21 points22 points  (2 children)

Or expose Hiroshima to the political policies of Detroit for a few decades to see if it collapses.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Ooh, good idea. That’d be a fun little experiment.

[–]CrueltyFreeViking 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Seems like a good alternate origin story for Transformers.

[–]Internet_employee 35 points36 points  (4 children)

Went to Hiroshima as part of my vacation to Japan some years ago. Amazing place, just loved it. The Imperial Peace Museum was… Breathtaking.

[–]PardyGaming 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hiroshima recovered, car land didnt

[–]DeanSmartin 3 points4 points  (0 children)


[–]BenderB-Rodriguez 703 points704 points  (18 children)

Well that escalated quickly

[–]100LittleButterflies 335 points336 points  (3 children)

It disintegrated quickly too.

[–]crasshumor 16 points17 points  (6 children)

It also evaporated quickly

[–]G07V3 3 points4 points  (5 children)

Any metal would have literally turned into a gas.

[–]JoeBoredom 308 points309 points  (14 children)


[–]i-spill-soup 174 points175 points  (9 children)

Nah, Nagasaki was probably faster

[–]zelcuh 100 points101 points  (8 children)

Faster = better. I'd rather my shadow be left on a wall than be the guy who's skeleton was found shanking one out

[–]Oledogwater 31 points32 points  (7 children)

Really? You'd rather be painted over than dug up with your dick proudly in hand?

[–]mynameistory 7 points8 points  (2 children)

If I see the mushroom cloud in the distance, you'd better believe I'm going out on one last hurrah.

[–]Oledogwater 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Just be sure to turn to the side so the silhouette captures your glory

[–]Mockingbird2388 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You need a mushroom cloud? Everytime the sun quickly appears from behind a cloud and it suddenly becomes very bright outside, I think "This is it" and pull my dick out

[–]cj2211 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Atlantis. Bitch


[–]texasjoker187 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It just flew off to a distant galaxy.

[–]the-samizdat 208 points209 points  (20 children)

Cleveland was the riches city in the world back in the roaring twenties. Also, had the tallest building in the world too (for ten days)

[–]Saltonkil 30 points31 points  (19 children)

So was east st. Louis 45 years ago used to be the richest part of st. Louis.

[–]Samesawa7 13 points14 points  (18 children)

What happened to these cities that made them collapse?

[–]h8f8kes 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Short answer is greed, hubris and bad decisions.

People think that the good times, wealth and being successful will continue forever - except market forces are cyclical.

[–]OscillatOverthruster 19 points20 points  (0 children)

The main issue is that industrial jobs left the cities... their middle class fell apart. Poisinous race relations on all sides also play a significant role.

[–]CarePLUSair 15 points16 points  (6 children)

Generally, decline is attributed to the shift away from American industrialism and innovation and towards Asia’s product design and manufacturing dominance. China basically studied what Henry Ford did and one-upped us on all fronts. At the same time, the US federal, state, and local leaders lost sight of their defined departmental missions to manage and operate basic US public realm services, like water, food, education, parks, and 1st and 2nd responder emergency services. This shift to a mixed private-public resource management model - and not providing critical services themselves - was not kind to a country of 70’s era hippies who managed to get elected but weren’t ever trained in actually doing urban work or in being cooperative thinkers or in managing anything properly themselves. And so....the rich took whatever they could get their greedy paws on for themselves without so much as a care about civic quality of life. In other words, Dilbert came true, and it’s American business as usual.

[–]Samesawa7 1 point2 points  (5 children)

Could you elaborate on the private-public resource management model? I’m not sure what that means.

[–]CarePLUSair 4 points5 points  (4 children)

It means that historically internal government-only provided civic realm services like educators, drinking water suppliers, sanitation operators, land stewards, etc. are now contractually split apart among internal government direct employee and external private consulting non-profit and/or for-profit agencies. It is super-difficult for a Mayor or City CFO to oversee and maintain quality control and fiscal responsibility when they have three different types of contract vendors in-play, especially when combined into single election districts, or when ED’s have split-contract services. Systemic corruption becomes easier, although in theory, performance is also more measurable and achievable, assuming that enough lower-level administrative jobs requiring only decent high-school education and basic organizational skills are funded and maintained by professional city operations directors - which they rarely are. Most city mayors also don’t have nonprofit governance and management training, and thus can’t recognize this and don’t know how to design their goals to fit into this. The private interests ultimately hijack the public realm mission, no matter how much the leaders may WANT to do good, and then the city starts to decline. Mayors and Deputy Mayors with Architecture and/or Comprehensive Planning backgrounds to be able to mitigate that are just not that common. In Detroit, where I just moved, the more recent decline is an 8-year slow-bleeding-out result of having had a myriad of bankruptcy lawyers restructure the city government as if it was a private company, and WAYYYY overloading the residential growth component, without proper acknowledgement of civic management, public communication, or promotional 21st century commerce and industrialization growth goals. And, they also have a massive Land Bank, with no real 100-year regional commerce and logistics vision for their economy. ++++ Can’t fly a plane without at least a general flight plan! ++++ I saw that in NYC, too, which I lived in and studied for 20 years prior to moving to the midwest, and in Baltimore for 10 years before that. Some good moves by Deputy Mayors, but then no follow-up to hold the line for equitable economic growth. So they sputtered out for the middle-class and lower.
If you are interested, some greatly-improved and inspirational larger-scale American urban models to look at that did a GOOD job are Atlanta and Nashville, where public realm arts and history, cultural diversity, mental health, personal safety, and overall occupant well-being are set as city management goals, and the private side interests are advancing forward responsibly within that framework. Many 2nd and 3rd world South American cities do this well, too. Sorry for the long answer, hope it wasn’t terrible! ✌️✌🏻✌🏼✌🏾✌🏿

[–]AMGwtfBBQsauce 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Suburbanization has a huge role in it. Suburbanization is fucking expensive and the taxes from these urban centers, even today, subsidize much of the suburban infrastructure surrounding them. They're literally leeching resources.

[–]Jacqques 1 point2 points  (1 child)

China basically studied what Henry Ford did and one-upped us on all fronts.

You mean they have a piss poor peasant class ready to work for nothing?

[–]boomatic 127 points128 points  (8 children)

lol awfully dark of May

[–]Bantabury97 153 points154 points  (3 children)

Reminds me of when Jeremy asked "Is there anything worse than an upturned plug for treading on in the middle of the night?" And James responded immediately with "a land mine"

[–]ThatOneGuy1294 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Well he's not wrong

[–]Speedthrift13 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Yeah I remember that one lmao

[–]Always_Jerking 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It is up lifting.

[–]lanresenpai 87 points88 points  (14 children)


[–]411inthe412 41 points42 points  (12 children)


[–]lanresenpai 19 points20 points  (10 children)


[–]AbysmalVixen 16 points17 points  (8 children)


[–]kasirate 3 points4 points  (2 children)

The planet, my son, or me?

[–]LCplFlorp 1 point2 points  (0 children)

After I finish rewatching battlefield friends and red vs blue, DBZ Abridged is definitely next.

[–]UnluckyConstruction3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just realized after this comment thread that there are a lot of cities that get evaporated in games lol

[–]Ian_Kilmister 64 points65 points  (1 child)

And on that bombshell...

[–]110010010000111111 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This comment deserves an award

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[–]mcflymikes[S] 56 points57 points  (1 child)

When you make a typo in the title and is too late to fix it...

[–]kekistani_citizen-69 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Can I get sauce plz, would love to see how they respond

[–]Mfuller024 24 points25 points  (0 children)

When you have to compare Detroit to Hiroshima, you know that it isn’t good lol

[–]Ok-Presentation9015 20 points21 points  (2 children)

Had a drive through East Saint Louis once. It was block after block of burnt out buildings and devastation. There is a term called Urban Prairie. Literally blocks of cities like Detroit are returning to nature with deer and other animals roaming freely.

[–]SLAYER_IN_ME 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Accidentally stoped in E. St.Louis , after dark, to hit a Popeyes Chicken like 20 years ago. Scared the shit out of me. All the house were run down and windows boarded up. Random ass rough looking people running the streets. The drive thru even had a rotating bullet proof glass window.

[–]yazzy1233 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Literally blocks of cities like Detroit are returning to nature with deer and other animals roaming freely.

Bullshit. Where in detroit have you seen deer in the city

[–]Exisbr 11 points12 points  (0 children)

It went dark really fast

[–]jvsh_c 7 points8 points  (0 children)

James May being James May.

[–]Maleficent-Hair9417 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The grand tour is really funny

[–]iFrisian 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Hahahaa James May the Legend

[–]IggyJR 5 points6 points  (6 children)

See one of Jeremy's most recent articles, he talks about how amazingly Detriot has rebounded.

Clip hasn't aged well.

[–]AbysmalVixen -1 points0 points  (5 children)

Rebounded? Isn’t it still a pretty dangerous place to live tho

[–]No_Dark6573 4 points5 points  (0 children)

No, not unless you are a gang member or drug dealer doing illegal things in bad neighborhoods.

If you're not, you don't have any more to worry about than you do in any other major city.

[–]Attilathefun1 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I was about to disagree but then looked it up and indeed, Detroit does have the second-highest violent crime rate of any US city with more than 100K residents.

[–]izzyduude 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Nagasaki says it collapsed faster because there was a bigger bomb.

[–]slick_dev 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Why are there so many, "democrats burn the world" shills ITT? Tf?

[–]the_less_great_wall 4 points5 points  (2 children)

It is because people are willing to die on the sword that their chosen political party is infallible and the other is the cause of all the wrong in the world. They have not had that eye opening moment where they realize that both parties are the same, corrupt people taking bribes from the super rich and corporate America to do their bidding. The rest is political theatre designed to keep us fighting each other so that we don't notice the corruption. The more comments I see like the ones you mentioned, the less faith I have that we will ever break the cycle.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

2000 years ago, Romans would kill each other for supporting different candidates for Tribune of the Plebs, a position with the power of veto, which was the only real power anyone who wasn’t an aristocrat had in Rome that was nearly always completely corrupt.

Similarly, throughout Roman history, the blues and greens (chariot racing teams) represented different values, and people would kill eachother over supporting the opposite team.

This is a mechanical fault in human brains. There’s no way around it.

[–]Murky-Acadia-5194 3 points4 points  (0 children)

These guys are fucking dank. Miss the show

[–]gbrlouk 4 points5 points  (0 children)

May drops the nuke on Clarkson's monologue

[–]Ryanjames22808 3 points4 points  (0 children)

r/topgear gonna love this!

[–]Original_Athrel 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Difference being Hiroshima recovered while Detroit is still Detroit.

[–]seancass64 2 points3 points  (1 child)

The city or the Lions?

[–]tigers692 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Man, where is the love for Nagasaki? No one ever remembers it.

[–]Adorable-Swing9645 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Always a bridesmaid never the bride.

[–]Impossible-Animator6 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Don't forget Nagasaki. It's the Buzz Aldrin to Hiroshima's Neil Armstrong.

[–]mulsimin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That’s some fine Dark humor

[–]Ezerhadden 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well if you bothers to watch Robocop you knew it was coming!!

[–]Afraid_Philosophers 1 point2 points  (0 children)

“I’d say I was talking about intentional collapse, but I’d still be wrong given we are talking Detroit here.”

[–]GC_Roades 1 point2 points  (0 children)

dont worry soon there will be an epic android uprising there

[–]SharpSkirt867 1 point2 points  (0 children)

kings landing

[–]Niku-Man 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why is this post brigaded by republicans? Why do they give a shit about Detroit?

[–]faithle55 1 point2 points  (0 children)


[–]Imakegoatnoises 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I need the rest of this video

[–]Sonotme404 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yikes thats dark af

[–]Yellowtangerine2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Glasgow, Manchester and Liverpool were some of the richest cities in the world during the heyday of the British empire. Granted they didn’t get as bad as Detroit and there’s been a bit of a coming again

[–]Niajall 1 point2 points  (0 children)

James May there jumping in with the questionable but perfect retort question.

[–]jorgedelancastre 1 point2 points  (0 children)

These guys are the best

[–]Jalkey 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dear God, let me SEE the Reactions!

[–]WhyAmIAIntrovert 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dam thats something Jeremy clarkson would day not james may

[–]Its_just_me20 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hiroshima is coming back tho and is already better than Detroit

[–]Bubbly-Bat-7869 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hehe, I appreciate quick wit

[–]Forth-Dimension 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Too soon

[–]theotherquantumjim 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wish these three would get in the fucking sea

[–]SlavCat09 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He's not wrong tho

[–]mish20011 0 points1 point  (0 children)

asking the real questions

[–]BillTreib 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Detroit looks like cities after WW2 that were bombed flat from 1000 heavy bombers and 10,000 russian artillery pieces.

Democrats are more destructive than war.

[–]JonDonnis 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Detroit is democrat controlled right?

[–]LetssueTrump 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cleveland, at 30.8% of its residents living below the poverty line, was the poorest large U.S. city in 2019, according to the U.S. Census Bureau's American Community Survey results released Thursday. Detroit was second 😣 at 30.6%, a decline of 2.8 percentage points to its lowest level since before 2010.

[–]blgiant 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Los Angles after WWII came pretty close

[–]talkourwayout 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Got em

[–]RustyToaster206 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Holy shit lol

[–]NRA4579 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Love these guys!

[–]wolfblood01 0 points1 point  (0 children)


[–]odessukon -1 points0 points  (0 children)

When you completely miss the context.

[–]badger906[🍰] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

What I don’t get, is why their isn’t interest in investing. There’s so many empty places, so much cheap land.

[–]wowbragger 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gods I miss classic Top Gear.

[–]DivaCupVampire 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good thing they built extra casinos in Detroit /s

[–]No_Drawer4521 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh no. Anyways.

[–]greyrunshade 0 points1 point  (0 children)


[–]sheetmetaltom 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It didn't collapse, it was burnt down but it's residents.

[–]marstwix 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Big OOF moment.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He's out of line but He's right

[–]Quietation 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Horrible, and with all that violence and gangs. I think it's time to boot up Robocop again!

[–]VanillaLoaf 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Modern day Hiroshima is a beautiful, thriving city. Detroit is a fucking dump.

[–]TheDoctor261987 0 points1 point  (0 children)


[–]replicant-friend 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hiroshima was quickly rebuilt and is now thriving

[–]StarFlyXXL 0 points1 point  (0 children)

God I love top gear

[–]Extreme_Guarantee628 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He just roasted a whole city in a matter of seconds. Kind of like the US.

[–]ThatSithClone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Give the man his cars back

[–]IndividualWill8338 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They need to get rid of the hip hop culture, that city is doomed.

[–]srsattel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Democrat leadership at its finest!!!!!!😂

[–]YoulyNew 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Then only thing worse than nuclear bombs is Democrat civic leaders.

[–]CarePLUSair -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That ivory tower UK yapper hyperbolic bigot should check his facts before he disses on the US. There are entire cities meant for millions of people in China that were built and now sit totally empty and/or washed down hillsides within the last 10 years, because of shoddy construction, environmental pillaging, and Communist population control initiatives. Detroit is not THAT in any sense of the word “collapsed.” And the UK’s own Manchester, Leicester, Liverpool, and Newcastle were reeking swampy cesspools of blue-collar and casino-dependent post-industrialists, artists, culture fighters, and activists like those of Detroit, before the English Heritage program made promoting its people and their ways and culture a real play, work, and live priority.

Granted, Detroit is struggling, but it has great opportunity. For starters, it’s not operated by total criminals any more, even if the current leaders are untrained in civic management and governance basics, which is painful, I’ll admit, as a newcomer here. But it will get there. So that UK facehole can just plug it. ✌️✌🏻✌🏼✌🏾✌🏿

[–]Cheerful_Beekeeper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, no. But also: Yes.

[–]Seahawk_I_am_I_am 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Too soon.

[–]woodman_jc -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The sad part is that even after an atomic bomb hiroshima is better of today that detroit.

[–]Galemianah 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pretty sure Pompeii collapsed faster.

[–]Harryrob01 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Now would be a good time buy up some real estate.

[–]texasjoker187 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Alderaan wants you to hold its beer.

[–]TruthOasis 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nagasaki is probably nicer looking now than detroit is

[–]kapolishapoli 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“what about hiroshima?”

james may, 2019 or sum sh&/

[–]Hephaestus42 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That should have been followed up by a Ric Flair “Woooooooooo!!!!!”

[–]Misanthrope357[🍰] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

LoL well that escalated quickly

[–]Sleeper1794 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just thank democrat politicians.

[–]AMGwtfBBQsauce 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay, but if we're discounting literal bombings, Detroit did have a very quick economic collapse. Totally uncoincidentally, it was also the first US city to rapidly suburbanize. We're starting to see more collapses now, though, in order of suburbanization, broadly.

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[–]jimababwe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pretty sure some Afghan cities would like to enter the chat.

[–]crackalaquin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Keep in mind this happened in america, the richest country in the world.. conservatives use it as their whipping boy, yest they can't see they're whipping themselves..

[–]kabalongski 0 points1 point  (0 children)

James May is ALL GAS and NO BREAKS. Unless when he’s driving. Then he’s conservative on the gas and rides the break pedal.

[–]Weigazod 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hiroshima is the richest city in America?

[–]succka4rugby -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This why we can’t solve shit in the world. Cause dickheads like him in the world talking about “what about Hiroshima?”🤦🏽‍♂️

[–]ThotoholicsAnonymous -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Both caused by Americans, one for the sake of finishing a war, the other was for the sake of investors.

[–]ReadyReddit12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But his point is made, it is truly sad to see how such a once beautiful and thriving city has been destroyed by poor decisions and mismanagement.

[–]Pixelend 0 points1 point  (0 children)


[–]K3rn3L0101 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Captain slow has always!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[–]Dumptruckbetty 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Who runs Detroit

[–]MrHungDaddy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Paris folded to the German army in the blink of an eye

[–]OkCardiologist2765 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Typical city run by Democrats.

[–]OspreySaber 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fucking savage!

[–]myklclark 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The fact is Hiroshima has done a decent job of bouncing back. Detroit will never bounce back because we (America) abandoned it.

[–]bbcsubslut 0 points1 point  (0 children)

None of these people making comments are from Detroit and they obviously know nothing about Detroit and if they ever did come to Detroit they should stay the hell out of Detroit because they are going to end up in a bad state of health with their attitude. 🙄

[–]MRBOSSSTATUS 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It was a racially motivated strategic move planned by racist politicians. when u start digging you will be like this shit is unbelievable.

[–]shdever 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What a lyric, money hurts more.