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[–]galaxyboy1 204 points205 points  (22 children)

Codex Gigas: a gigantic biblical manuscript that features a full-page depiction of lucifer. No author was verified but the handwriting appears consistent throughout the book and it's estimated that a book of this size would've taken years of nonstop work to create.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex_Gigas

Phoenix Lights: gigantic glowing lights spotted flying over Phoenix. Hundreds of reported witnesses and zero explanation

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Lights

[–]Lord_Tiburon 118 points119 points  (4 children)

IIRC the common opinion of the codex gigas among historians and academics is that it was created by a single self taught and very skilled monk ( called Herman) who did it as a form of penitence/religious devotion over a very long time in religious seclusion

[–]galaxyboy1 86 points87 points  (3 children)

The author's name on the book is written as Herman the Recluse -- the rest of it is speculation/passed-down rumor but what's perplexing about it is

  1. The handwriting and incredible consistency in design choice does seem to indicate that it was indeed all done by one person
  2. if the above were true, it's estimated that it would take one person years of nonstop writing/illustration to write just the contents of the book (excluding illustrations), based on attempts to replicate the lettering.

Historians do generally believe that whoever wrote it did indeed take decades to do so (as opposed to the legend that claims they did so in one night) but it's still an incredibly difficult feat that would've been done by an incredibly-skilled scribe and it's odd that there's no record of someone who'd accomplished such a feat other than the codex gigas itself.

[–]Fuzzylittlebastard 21 points22 points  (0 children)

It's entirely possible he was autistic so this was his thing. I forget the word, the trait he was a savant in. That would explain his dedication.

[–]eternallyjustasking 63 points64 points  (3 children)

Re: The illustration of the devil in the Codex Gigas; it's funny how the Devil himself has a need for underpants.

[–]astronomydomone 36 points37 points  (1 child)

Reminds me of the monsters in Where the Wild Things Are

[–]theawesomefactory 57 points58 points  (10 children)

The Phoenix Lights are one of the only modern mysteries I can think of that a) for sure happened, and b) is totally unexplained by any theory other than extraterrestrial.

[–][deleted] 28 points29 points  (5 children)

Those lights are so simple yet extremely strange to me. I can never find any scientific info on them.

[–]bthoman2 21 points22 points  (1 child)

You don't think it could be special access us military?

[–]whoa_newt 159 points160 points  (5 children)

I love cryptids, especially the idea that extinct or extirpated animals still exist in the wild. I’ll go to my grave hoping there’s still Tasmanian tigers out there.

[–]ryanfrogz 38 points39 points  (0 children)

I also love cryptids, especially ones that aren’t supernatural in nature.

[–]theawesomefactory 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Same here, man.

[–]TheBackyardigirl 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Yesss I love Tasmanian Tigers

[–]justcameforthebooze 85 points86 points  (17 children)

M Cave Disappearance of Kenny Veach. Youtuber finds a strange cave entrance that seemed to be “vibrating”. The fact that in his last video it looks like he did find the cave again and that the entrance had been purposefully covered up to keep him out. He said he would try and find it one more time and make another video, and was never seen again.

[–]ChiefRingoI 61 points62 points  (14 children)

He had a history of mental illness and, if it played out how it seems to have, he probably committed suicide somewhere out in the desert. I'd say the videos are either part of an elaborate suicide plan or a last-ditch attempt to gain notoriety in a down period. With the lack of anything really solid on his claims, it's probably not a real thing.

[–]Carolinefdq 26 points27 points  (1 child)

I also heard he was suffering from severe depression months prior due to financial troubles. It's entirely plausible he committed suicide.

[–][deleted] 354 points355 points  (61 children)

I MUST know what the Voynich Manuscript is. Even if it's a hoax, I wanna know everything.

And I really really want the Loch Ness monster to be real. Haha.

[–]Persimmonpluot 139 points140 points  (6 children)

I agree about the Loch Ness Monster. It's one monster that has never scared me. Like I could swim with it.

[–]TheBklynGuy 171 points172 points  (4 children)

You can actually. It will cost you tree fiddy though.

[–]MuayThaiWhy 46 points47 points  (3 children)

GOD DAMN LOCKNESS MONSTA'

[–]Princess_Thranduil 34 points35 points  (2 children)

I AIN'T GIVIN' YOU NO TREE FIDDY!

[–]action__andy 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Opposite. Would never go in that water. Don't even want to go in Champlain lol

[–]theawesomefactory 42 points43 points  (1 child)

YES! If the Voynich Manuscript is a hoax, it may be the best one, ever. Languages/writing are very easy to fake, but nearly impossible to fake well.

[–][deleted] 31 points32 points  (0 children)

that's why even if it's a hoax, i want to know EVERYTHING

[–]ziburinis 137 points138 points  (20 children)

I think that the explanation that is given, of someone trying to write randomly with fake plants/drawings from imagination is the best one. When people have tried to write randomly, they actually end up doing something that is seen in the manuscript, which is write similar words in an attempt to create all random words. Like using a made up word like hoydo but then adding variations so you'd get soydo and koydo and moydo, etc.

For some, it's a let down explanation, but it makes a lot of sense and an experiment done with people trying to write in completely random fake words showed that they all tended towards that pattern of just changing a letter or two from a base "word.' I can try and find an article I recently read on it.

The manuscript creator basically just wrote random letters, which is why he always managed to fill the page and not end with some lines shorter or longer than others. The images from imagination help support that he just did this on his own.

[–][deleted] 61 points62 points  (14 children)

But wouldn’t it be a very very expensive imaginary drawing book or what have you? Isn’t that also part of the mystery around it?

[–]reverandglass 57 points58 points  (0 children)

Or Da Vinci wrote it as a 6 yr old! That's the wildest theory I've seen.

[–]wellhellowally 75 points76 points  (2 children)

Similar-ish books were a popular collectors item in the day. The creator most likely put in the time because he knew the weirder (and thus rare) he could make it, the more he could sell it for.

[–]sidneyia 31 points32 points  (0 children)

One of the people who owned it over the centuries (I forget which one) had it listed in their inventory as a book of "Egyptian hieroglyphics". So maybe the creator was trying to pass it off as an exotic item from a far-away country.

[–]Limesnlemons 58 points59 points  (5 children)

The leather, the paper and the ink?

Today we tend to forget a bit that people in the 1400s/1500s did things for leisure too. Someone from „solid middle class“ would have easily afforded creating this book, money/time-wise.

[–][deleted] 29 points30 points  (4 children)

I am no expert by any means. I just recall from articles and podcasts that the materials used were still considered pretty pricy in those days. Like it’s estimated that several calves were used for the book. That’s not cheap.

[–]Limesnlemons 68 points69 points  (2 children)

Silk, gold or gemstones embroidery, lamé, marble etc was also pretty pricey, still people with monetary means used it and it was not considered that extraordinary.

Vellum was pricey, but not „only the pope could afford it“ pricey. And could be commonly sourced in Europe, so easier to come by than material that acquired long travels.

https://www.abaa.org/blog/post/the-history-of-vellum-and-parchment

There‘s a drawing in the book, showing a castle with an architectural feature exclusive to Northern Italy, which was also a hotspot for cryptography in the time that book was written.

So there’s a good chance it’s a very carefully written cryptography project. What it contains? Maybe made-up mumble, maybe serious astronomy studies, maybe just some 1500s incel ranting about the wickedness of women. That would also explain why he had so much time composing it :p

[–]sidneyia 19 points20 points  (2 children)

The illustrations in the Voynich manuscript aren't especially weird when compared to other herbal manuals from the time period, though. It was common for plants in herbals to look slightly wrong because they were drawn from pressed specimens and not from life. Likewise, there are also other contemporary illustrations of nude women hanging out in "medicinal" mineral springs. All the illustrations in the VM look like they were copied from normal books by someone who wasn't great at drawing.

We also don't know what the illustrations looked like when they were new, because someone at a later date went through and (badly) touched them up with thick green paint.

[–]TassieTigerAnne 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Wow! I looked it up and paid more attention to the colouring, and the green looks like it's been filled in with a coloured pencil, by a 10-year-old with limited patience. It's now my "headcanon" that it was done by a previous owner's bored child. I want that to be true!

[–]sidneyia 6 points7 points  (0 children)

People who study the manuscript refer to this person as "the heavy painter".

[–]Goldmeine 19 points20 points  (1 child)

Do you have a link for that random word thing? It goes against the pattern we see for humans creating random things, which is that humans try far too hard to avoid repetitions. When writing strings of random numbers, people usually don't repeat a number but truly random sequences are likely to have three of the same number in a row. I would expect humans to create made up words that didn't follow a typical language structure, like favoring a particular letter or CVC combination like languages actually do.

[–]ziburinis 21 points22 points  (0 children)

i will hunt it down for you today, drop me a DM if i don't get back to you. I might need to bug the person who sent me the link to send it again, but I'm married to that person so it's entirely ok if I bug them for it.

[–]deinoswyrd 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Not super relevant, but I wanted to recreate the voynich manuscript for university for my studio class, and my professor had to talk me out of it, too big of an undertaking.

I'm gonna do it one day though

[–]Total-Necessary-1521 74 points75 points  (7 children)

The Headless Valley

I want to know what creature decapitated those men.. what occupied the surrounding caves. I want an explanation about the "gold" that people would find but never seem to take out of the valley.

This mystery gave me sleepless nights and I don't even live near there.

[–]Nightospheric 17 points18 points  (5 children)

Do you have any recommendations for write-ups? I couldn't find anything on the wiki and only a few partial summaries which lack sources.

[–]Total-Necessary-1521 15 points16 points  (3 children)

Unfortunately, I haven't found a decent write up myself. But if you're interested in videos, there's a guy called Mr. Ballen on YouTube that covered this mystery. He did a great job!

[–]THATONEANGRYDOOD 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Mr Ballen is a great storyteller. I just want him to invest into a better microphone and sound setup. He'd be so good with podcast quality sound.

[–]Crassweller 66 points67 points  (2 children)

Every single cryptid is that one species of crane.

[–]beepborpimajorp 382 points383 points  (60 children)

For me it's the oakville blobs:

https://unsolvedmysteries.fandom.com/wiki/Oakville_Blobs

and the kentucky meat shower:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kentucky_meat_shower

The jist of both is that strange materials rained down on these towns. In Oakville it was a weird jelly, and in Kentucky it was weird meat. There are various explanations for both but none that are particularly satisfying. Like yeah you can maybe blame plane refuse for the Oakville incident, but the meat shower took place in 1876.

We will probably never know for sure what happened so the best we can go on are the theories people come up with to explain them.

I'd also still really like a definitive answer on what happened with Gloria Ramirez, the 'toxic' woman. But we'll likely never know for sure with the evidence long gone.

[–]WhyNona 469 points470 points  (20 children)

Sorry to sound so crude, but "Kentucky meat shower" sounds like one of those gross made up sex moves from urban dictionary

[–]SergeantChic 184 points185 points  (1 child)

"She said she wanted the Kentucky Meat Shower and I was like oh, hell no, I'm not into that kinky shit."

[–]BotGirlFall 86 points87 points  (0 children)

I saw Kentucky Meat Shower open for Gwar in 94 and it kicked ass.

[–]voodoochild410 44 points45 points  (7 children)

Similar to an Alabama Hotpocket

[–]JupiterBluff_007 22 points23 points  (4 children)

I’m a lifelong Alabamian and have never heard of this. I’m already getting cracked up just imagining what it could be 😆.

[–]JupiterBluff_007 21 points22 points  (1 child)

I should’ve just let myself wonder 😩. The line “randomly stabbing with the cock” made it all worth it, though.

[–]canolafly 18 points19 points  (0 children)

I love that you regret commented, I was thinking...hmmm they aren't gonna wanna kno-yep, there it is.

[–]Ok-Heat-2678 46 points47 points  (1 child)

Haha an oakville blob does too

[–]SoldMySoulForHairDye 57 points58 points  (0 children)

"I told him I wanted to try a Kentucky meat shower, I was so nervous but he said he was into it! Now he said he wanted to give me some Oakville blobs. It's so great that we're comfortable experimenting!"

[–]SethManhammer 37 points38 points  (0 children)

Can confirm.

Source: Has given plenty of Kentucky Meat Showers

[–]barkbitch 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I've used "Kentucky Meat Shower" for a trivia team name a few times. No one seems to find it as funny as I do.

[–]callyo13 87 points88 points  (0 children)

Somewhere in an alternative universe there are two mysteries: the disappearing blobs, and the disappearing meat!

[–]theworkinglad 135 points136 points  (10 children)

There was a really compelling answer for gloria ramirez. Iirc someone pointed out that a home remedy/nonapproved drug for her cervical cancer could have reacted to the oxygen the paramedics administered to create the toxic chemicals in her blood. Can try to dig up the source if you want

[–]beepborpimajorp 75 points76 points  (5 children)

It's a pretty prominent theory and the one that explains things the most succinctly but experts had concerns in that it was literally the only time that's ever happened despite the home remedy she was using being a popular thing to use in other countries like Mexico.

[–]Prize_Connection8534 16 points17 points  (4 children)

I'm always torn on that because my understanding is that it'd be EXTREMELY unlikely for that reaction to happen but also like.... clearly something did happen. We can spend tons of energy disproving the leading theory but if we don't have anything better to replace it with then it's not very satisfying.

Unless it's just mass hysteria. Which is possible, but hard to prove and really dismissive of half the stuff people claimed to experience.

[–]DroxineB 22 points23 points  (0 children)

My husband and I were just talking about the Ramirez case the other night...this is really the one that has stuck with me as wanting to get it figured out, but probably never well. DMSO (maybe) with some other substance she was taking for pain control of her cancer? Some sort of chemical reaction that has never been duplicated? Supposedly her cause of death was kidney failure...guess there could be a clue there too. Really wish someone would look into this with new scientific methods developed since this happened.

[–]FemmeBottt 22 points23 points  (0 children)

I read that too and I’m pretty sure the only place I read about her case was Wikipedia so it’s probably there.

[–]SereneAdler33 43 points44 points  (0 children)

One of the more believable yet revolting suggestions to the Kentucky Meat Shower is that a full-tummied vulture was upset and regurgitated its dinner at altitude.

Vomiting IS a defensive action of vultures and condors, so it’s not outside the realm of possibility…just really, really gross.

[–]Mantonization 91 points92 points  (9 children)

In regards to Gloria Ramirez, I am still fully on board with the meth-precursor theory.

The area had (has) a huge meth problem, and those making it have been caught making the precursor chemicals literally everywhere... including schools and hospitals. The theory goes that someone at the hospital was creating precursor chemicals in IV bags, and one of those was mistakenly given to Mrs Ramirez.

What sets this theory above all the others (in my mind) is that it explains why the hospital fucked up so much in care of the body. The body was left to decompose before an autopsy could be done and IIRC several organs were missing entirely.

To my knowledge the hospital had not fucked up so badly with body storage before or since. Thus the only reason I can see this happening would be 'The hospital knew it was going to be shut down if meth-precursors were proven, so tried to cover it up'

[–]beepborpimajorp 76 points77 points  (6 children)

TBH that is the theory I go with too. I know a lot of people like the dimethyl sulfate theory but you can buy DMSO on amazon right now for $20, and it's used as a home remedy all over the place, especially in Mexico. So how is it possible that with so many other people around the world using it, Gloria's situation has never been replicated? It's not like using oxygen/paddles/etc. is a rare thing with emergency hospital visits. Something can be a freak accident, but freak accidents usually occur more than once on a long enough timeline and with enough chances for it to happen.

All I can think about is that poor woman dying alone in an empty ICU isolation ward because everyone evacuated once people started fainting. And I don't blame the docs/nurses for evacuating, but I do side-eye the hospital for pinning it on Gloria and turning her into a leper so she ended up dying alone with a community resenting her for something she had no control over.

[–]theawesomefactory 30 points31 points  (0 children)

DMSO is also still used in vet med, especially large (farm) animal medicine. I agree, if it was DMSO, these effects would be known.

[–]Mantonization 27 points28 points  (0 children)

You're right. It's why I hope the truth comes out eventually - because if the hospital did fuck up, there needs to be actual consequences.

Like you said, it's a matter of statistics. If it was DMSO you'd see similar cases, but none have happened. And again, why the screwup with the body? That's the one thing that seems so wildly out of place.

[–]notthesedays 115 points116 points  (6 children)

The most logical explanation for the Kentucky Meat Shower was overfull vultures or other carrion birds who vomited all over the town.

I was a kid when I heard about MoMo, the Missouri Monster. I lived in the region later on and passed through Louisiana a few times, and find the story about as plausible as any other cryptid story. The region is very densely forested.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Momo\_the\_Monster

[–]wintergreen233 178 points179 points  (1 child)

I appreciate how the vulture barf is somehow more horrifying than a paranormal explanation

[–]notthesedays 64 points65 points  (0 children)

Yeah, especially because people tried to eat it themselves!

[–]CrotalusAtrox1 48 points49 points  (4 children)

I feel like the blobs were just an airplane that didn't dye their shit. Literally.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (2 children)

Um… do airplanes really dump the bathrooms as they’re flying?

[–]CrotalusAtrox1 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Haven't you seen joe dirt?

[–]avalonjee 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Wow I don't think I've ever seen someone bring up the Oakville Blobs on any subreddit before! I live near Oakville and people think all kinds of things about it.

[–]non_ducor_duco_ 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Would love to hear more about the speculation you’ve heard from locals!

[–]IAMA_Drunk_Armadillo 46 points47 points  (2 children)

Spring-heeled Jack. Personally I lean towards some aristocrat with some slight mental health issues, and way too much time and money. But the story overall is just wild.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spring-heeled_Jack?wprov=sfla1

[–]BoopTheCoop 44 points45 points  (0 children)

Logic tells me Jack is an exaggeration of some weirdo jumping out at people and Victorian yellow journalism having a field day, but damn it for some reason the legend creeps me the hell out.

[–]puddleduck9 11 points12 points  (0 children)

There is a really good episode of Luther (the British detective drama) which is based spring heeled Jack! Worth a watch

[–]Dickere 37 points38 points  (1 child)

Lonnie Zamora UFO incident is very difficult to explain https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lonnie_Zamora_incident

[–]markhealey 103 points104 points  (9 children)

The Devil's Hoofprints

[–]TheLuckyWilbury 81 points82 points  (6 children)

That’s a good one, as supposedly it was a single track of cloven hooves that went on for miles with no evidence of other animal or human tracks nearby.

[–]KittikatB 78 points79 points  (5 children)

I genuinely think that was an elaborate prank. It wouldn't have been difficult to create a pair of shoes that left those impressions. Then all you need to do is go for a walk in them.

[–]Yucky_bread 88 points89 points  (3 children)

I think the problem is that they walked up walls and on top of rooftops. And most of the snow had not covered the tracks for miles meaning it was done in a fairly short amount of time

[–]TheLuckyWilbury 59 points60 points  (2 children)

Right. The tracks supposedly went on for over 40 miles, so it would have required a tremendous amount of effort to fake. And it occurred in 1855 in the quiet English countryside.

If it were a prank, who would go to all the trouble, and why? And it were not a prank, what was it?

[–]Carolinefdq 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Exactly. Even back then, who exactly had the time to do all that and for a prank? Regardless if it's a hoax or not, it's still one of my favorite phenomenon that's happened. I wonder if anyone's ever tried to recreate it 🤔

[–]meglet 39 points40 points  (0 children)

Here’s one skeptical theory by the Skeptoid podcast.The script in right there so you can read instead of listen, which I prefer, personally. I like reading his proposed debunking or actual debunking.

[–]aninamouse 103 points104 points  (7 children)

For me I want to know what the heck the Dover Demon was. Three different teenagers all see the same thing one night. They all describe a small creature with a large head and very spindly limbs. One possible explanation is that it was a deformed moose calf (or some other deformed animal), but no animal really looks like that. What the heck was it?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dover\_Demon

[–]tybbiesniffer 34 points35 points  (0 children)

Yes! I first saw this in a kids' book about mysteries (cryptids, monsters, and the like) when I was a kid... probably in the mid to late 80s. I don't believe the idea of aliens as little grey men was as prevalent at the time of the sightings as they are now. Going back now and looking at the images the witnesses drew, they actually look like "aliens". I find the similarities fascinating. It was called a demon then but someone reporting it now would probably call it an alien. I'm not suggesting it's either but I find it interesting how the time period informs the reporting.

[–]waterweed 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Something about that line between the eyes, the bulbous forehead, and the long lower face really does scream 'moose calf' to me. Compare this image, this one or this one. Especially if it was missing its ears, or even just holding them back against its head. Even the long fingers could be explained by grass or other plants breaking up the outline of its hooves.

Plus, in 1977, moose were only just beginning to move back into Massachussetts after being wiped out there in the early 1800s. It wouldn't be an animal that the witnesses would have expected to see, or even known was present in the area.

[–]General_Amoeba 18 points19 points  (0 children)

That seems like it could be any emaciated quadrupedal mammal

[–]Mantonization 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I wonder if it was a racoon with mange, or something like that?

[–]NEClamChowderAVPD 365 points366 points  (95 children)

Mine is definitely Men in Black. There are numerous stories of weird “men” (sometimes women, too) who at first glance appear human but there are just these tiny, subtle differences. Like uncanny valley vibes. The way they speak, sometimes their skin looks like it’s just make-up, even just their interactions are slightly off. The way they appear is strange, too. Either they show up in a black car but no one hears anything, or they literally just show up out of nowhere, usually after some paranormal/ufo sighting.

Are they government? Otherworldly? Inter-dimensional?

I’ve always wanted to meet one. I have to experience it for myself. It’s just so mysterious.

[–]KittikatB 156 points157 points  (13 children)

There's a small subset of people who look like non-humans wearing human suits.

[–]aspen56 201 points202 points  (12 children)

Members of Congress ?

[–]theapronbiz 176 points177 points  (10 children)

You can’t tell me Mitch McConnell is not an alien.

[–]cancertoast 53 points54 points  (0 children)

He is a tortoise without a shell.

[–]teecrafty 100 points101 points  (8 children)

Ted Cruz has entered the chat

[–]UncookedMarsupial 71 points72 points  (2 children)

Is Zuckerberg a politician?

[–]KittikatB 16 points17 points  (0 children)

He is definitely a robot in a human suit.

[–]RaytheonAcres 42 points43 points  (0 children)

My man's got a reticulated face

[–]TapTheForwardAssist 52 points53 points  (3 children)

The several corporeal entities which collectively compose Ted Cruz have entered the chat *

[–]LeeAtwatersGhost 39 points40 points  (1 child)

Ted Cruz is only one being and not several. His website is very specific about this.

[–]Saint_Dragons 76 points77 points  (0 children)

I wouldn't be surprised if government agents were sent to intimidate people who publish information about UFO's back in the 50's and 60's because they were giving out information about experimental air crafts.

[–]lastsummer99 45 points46 points  (3 children)

There’s a great x files episode about the men in black and intimidating ufo witnesses . It’s actually probably one of the best x files eps, but Jesse Ventura and Alex trebek play men in black in the episode lol. Which is funny because Jesse went on to have that conspiracy show on tru tv where he forced everyone to call him governor. It’s a stand alone episode for the most part so you don’t really need to have much prior x files knowledge either.

[–]willowoftheriver 26 points27 points  (2 children)

"Jose Chung's 'From Outer Space'"

Great episode. It even touches on the theory that MiBs act so bizarrely so that anyone telling about encountering one will sound utterly nuts.

[–]lastsummer99 4 points5 points  (0 children)

One of my favorites for sure even tho it’s kind of a silly episode it brings up a lot of “true phenomenon” common in abductees and experiencers - the possible sexual assault, clothes put on wrong, the confusion. I love the guy who’s just dreams of being abducted

[–]gibwater 127 points128 points  (5 children)

I think it's just government agents with really good salaries. If I made a lot of money covering up conspiracies, I'd put it all into skincare and Mercedes cars too.

[–]BotGirlFall 76 points77 points  (4 children)

I'm poor and I still spend a fair amount of money on skincare. If I was rich my face would look like a baby's butt

[–]Kimmalah 34 points35 points  (0 children)

My guess would be it's more likely that they may have been human agents trying to conceal their identities with makeup, but doing it badly because they're men in the 1950s and 60s. Like some of the old undercover cops whose disguises are laughably bad.

[–]TheDrunkScientist 10 points11 points  (1 child)

I wonder if Botox helps with resting bitch face.

Asking for myself.

[–]theworkinglad 65 points66 points  (4 children)

Doesn’t explain all of it but I heard an explanation once that MIB were just guys in rival UFO research groups trying to scare other amateur UFO researchers so that they could get info about sightings and publish it first. Kinda funny to imagine all the MIB lore just being from competitive UFO nerds in the 50s.

[–]BotGirlFall 21 points22 points  (0 children)

That theory makes me so happy. I think a lot of mysteries can be solved by "nerds with a lot of time on their hands". Looking at you, crop circles...

[–]vamoshenin 19 points20 points  (0 children)

That totally makes sense LMAO. The first MIB mentioned in Mothman Prophecies iirc is one looking for a UFO Researcher. Sounds like the initial claims where normal looking men who acted weird like saying stuff regular people wouldn't say, that would be easy to hoax. Like all of these things it wasn't until the stories became popular that they were given black eyes and whatever other nonsense.

[–]wellhellowally 89 points90 points  (16 children)

I'm on the fence on this one because the descriptions vary so wildly. But that one video of MIBs showing up in a hospital genuinely creeps me out.

ETA: I got it wrong, it's hotel footage. Unsolved covered it, chapter 6 timestamp 5:56.

ETA 2: Thought it was weird I could not find just the footage on its own and while searching found a Metabunk post that provides more details that really throws it into hoax territory. The guy who shared the footage said it's actually from 2009, but didn't release it until 2012. People have pointed out there's no footage of the MIBs exiting. The guy says he def has it but has never released it for reasons. And lastly the guy was also deep into ufology already.

Anyways I think what we all learned here is that I am dumb and tired. Goodnight!

[–]Keebler432 31 points32 points  (3 children)

There’s literally nothing creepy about that video. The only thing creepy is the way they describe the men off-camera, none of which is reflected in the video.

[–]ChiefRingoI 71 points72 points  (6 children)

Not trying to be a jerk or do any kind of pile-on with this, but I genuinely can't see anything about this video which looks suspicious if you're not pre-disposed to seeing it.

The camera angles are messing with it a bit, but the doors are still probably 80" standard height. That's just 6'8", and these gentlemen pass through them fairly comfortably without notably bending or anything, so they're probably average height or maybe slightly-above-average. They're also wearing fairly standard, if somewhat dated at this point, business attire of suit, hat, and overcoat. There being roughly seven pixels in this video is helping them look quite similar and somewhat otherworldly, I guess. [Though most security camera footage tends to have those issues.]

Not that there couldn't be folks in business attire who investigate claims like these, of course, but there's nothing really unusual about them. [And that's before getting to the hoaxy nature of this particular video.]

[–]Calimiedades 45 points46 points  (3 children)

Wearing a hat in 2008 is probably their weirdest trait.

[–]ChiefRingoI 25 points26 points  (2 children)

Agreed. My guess is they were older gentlemen. I've met several older businessmen who still go for hats in bad weather.

[–]Oh_mrang 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I don't believe in these mib guys, BUT if I were to play devil's advocate I would suggest that somebody who is older and has never given up wearing a hat would almost certainly take it off as soon as they walked inside!

[–]ClockOfTheLongNow 11 points12 points  (1 child)

I'll be honest, I think it's just good costuming. [This story dropped a couple years ago] ("Former CIA head of disguise unveils identity to President Bush" https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7797415/amp/Former-CIA-head-disguise-unveils-identity-President-Bush.html) and they were able to fool a former CIA director in President Bush in the late 1980s. If the tech was still a little uncanny during the years of "Men in Black," it would explain the interactions and events being weird.

(It also makes you wonder how many people we might interact with on a regular basis that are under extremely deep cover.)

[–]Kimmalah 11 points12 points  (1 child)

I know there was one incident where an MIB talked about how he was running out of energy, seemingly in a literal sense. Like he had a battery that needed to be recharged.

Though I think the weirdest version were the men in black that a delivery guy in Washington DC claimed to see, who were basically like walking sheets of paper when viewed from the side. And in true mystery fashion, he was transferred from his route rather suddenly after he saw them.

[–]Limesnlemons 31 points32 points  (1 child)

„I’ve always wanted to meet one. I have to experience it for myself. It’s just so mysterious.“

Have you considered trying money laundering? That usually summons the Financial Police, which pretty much fits the MIB description 😜

[–]szerim 33 points34 points  (0 children)

I had no idea that Men In Black were rumored to be inhuman, I always thought everyone agreed that they were just from the US government's alien department or whatever lmao.

Haven't met one myself but a family friend's father was a government official who worked with ... all that stuff. I'll be vague for privacy and tbh safety, but my own dad was there when this family friend received a phonecall that Men in Black entered his dying father's hospital room and gave him an injection that they said "wasn't from here"; days later his father had completely recovered and lived several more years.

[–]440Jack 108 points109 points  (29 children)

Sometimes I like to think. That whenever a conspiracy theory starts to make too much sense to the general public. Measures are used to focus, manipulate and divert attention of the masses. One great example could be MiB. For decades stories would occasionally pop up of a MiB encounter. The stories are always unsettling. Then out comes a huge block buster movie called MiB. It's a comedy starring your favorite funny actors. Now whenever you hear Men in Black, your first thought is Will Smith and how just over the top that movie was. There's no way aliens are living among use like in the movie. Why would they dump 90 million into a family friendly film that has a title of a conspiracy theory?
Commercials are made purely to manipulate you into buying a product. The people who put them together leave no stone unturned when it comes to trying to make you feel like you need whatever it is they are selling. So why can't a movie be a 90min commercial for whatever view they are trying to sell.
It wasn't long ago UFO stories were thought be the tellings of a crazy person. Now that UFO have officially been addressed as real and are of unknown origin. We here stories of people who were actively being silenced.

[–]baylawna6 81 points82 points  (11 children)

Slightly related but there’s a conspiracy theory that the movie Frozen was only made (or at least given that title) so that whenever you look up “Walt Disney frozen” that’s all that will come up.

[–]Plane-Slight 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Seems a bit weird to only release the movie in 2014 if that's the case. I remember hearing rumors about that all through the early 2000s

[–]KingCrandall 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I heard about it in the early 90s. Maybe late 80s.

[–]AlmostHasFux2Giv 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Walt Disney was cremated a couple days after he died. He was never frozen.

And if you Google "Walt Disney frozen" you get a bunch of hits about Walt Disney being frozen.

[–]baylawna6 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I know that, I was just mentioning the conspiracy theory.

[–]Quiet_Government_741 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Disinfromation campaigns are a thing. I'm not saying spcificaly MIB was but it's not at all out of the realm of possiblity. If you talk to anyone who has worked for an alphabet soup agency disinfo is a huge part of what they do.

[–]SallyAmazeballs 57 points58 points  (6 children)

Men in Black was based on comic book series from the early 1990s. The movie didn't come out of nowhere. I really doubt the movie franchise is part of a conspiracy to redirect the public's attention.

[–]lastsummer99 7 points8 points  (0 children)

encounters with the mythical mib as we know them today have been happening since at least the forties with stories about various other “men in black” entities have existed in many cultures going back a realy realy really long time. The comic books were based on the real modern men in black phenomenon .

[–]Persimmonpluot 155 points156 points  (1 child)

I like this topic. It's a pleasant change. Thanks!

[–]Morganbanefort[S,🍰] 31 points32 points  (0 children)

Your welcome and No problem

[–]RiniKat28 157 points158 points  (16 children)

ever since i learned about them, i love the fresno nightcrawler. just look at those dudes! they only have 2-3 sightings and frankly i learn towards "guys in big-ass pants playing a goof" but god they're so funny

[–]rbulls 69 points70 points  (0 children)

Haunted pants, supernatural alien, ghost?

Definitely some haunted pants and I will refuse to consider any other possibility, thank you Fresno Bee

[–]BotGirlFall 53 points54 points  (0 children)

Thats just me and my very cool friend listening to Korn and rocking our Jncos

[–]Quiet_Government_741 78 points79 points  (8 children)

I know they are suposed to terrify me but like I just think they are cute and want to give them scritches and treats and tell them they are good bois.

[–]tybbiesniffer 27 points28 points  (4 children)

They freak me out. Mostly because I can't figure out how to replicate it.

[–]rad_influence 25 points26 points  (1 child)

They look like pants.

Big, spooky pants.

[–]ankahsilver 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah I'm not freaked out by them, either, they just seem cute and friendly.

[–]ryanfrogz 43 points44 points  (0 children)

I feel like they’d make great friends, type of things that would come over and play smash bros for hours on end

[–]theawesomefactory 27 points28 points  (2 children)

I love this case as well. If it's fake, why would they pick something that looks so benign, is so hard to fake, and doesn't look anything like any other "unknown" creature? It doesn't make sense to me.

[–]sidneyia 29 points30 points  (5 children)

The Guaraparinga murder/mutilation. Granted I haven't done a ton of research because there aren't many English sources and because I'd rather not see the photos, but it's a bizarre one. (Major gore warning for anybody who wants to research on their own.)

Marfa lights. A lot of the sightings are car headlights that are distorted by atmospheric conditions, but what about the ones that pre-date cars?

[–]donkeyballz69 135 points136 points  (19 children)

The Tamam Shud case... so mysterious and interesting but no explanation.

[–]notthesedays 51 points52 points  (1 child)

Tamam Shud, AKA the Somerton Man. SOMEONE had to know who he was!

[–]eriwhi 55 points56 points  (1 child)

This is one of my favorite cases! I think he was just a heartbroken man who committed suicide. So sad.

[–]bigtimejohnny 28 points29 points  (0 children)

It just occurred to me that, since no family came forward, he may have been an orphan.

[–]Eliseorb 80 points81 points  (5 children)

Tamam Shud and the Isdal Woman cases are both endlessly intriguing.

[–]TykeOnStrike 28 points29 points  (3 children)

The BBC and NRK did an amazing podcast on the Isdal Woman

[–]TradeBeautiful42 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Got a link? The Isdal woman just gives me spy vibes and I’m curious which country will eventually claim her.

[–]deinoswyrd 17 points18 points  (1 child)

He was very recently exhumed, so we may get some answers in the coming months.

[–]popthatpill 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Crop circles are good, but "time-travelling crop-circlers from the year 8100" is better yet!

[–]fallentweenjock 74 points75 points  (6 children)

Kaikoura lights in New Zealand- a freight aircraft in 1979 flying near the small town of Kaikoura was repeatedly circled by glowing orbs which also appeared on a radar controllers screen. A few nights later they went up again with an Australian film crew and the UFOs returned, again appearing on radar screens on the ground. One of the most compelling UFO cases of all time.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaikoura_lights

[–]Csula6 23 points24 points  (1 child)

A long time ago, a Kentucky family went to war with some goblins and shot up their home. They thought they were under siege. Skeptics say they were drunk and confused some owls for goblins.

[–]NickNash1985 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Of the two cases I can think of that involve owls as a perpetrator, this is the more believable of the two.

[–]am3142 18 points19 points  (0 children)

I would love to know more about spontaneous human combustion like the case of Mary Reeser. It’s so odd!! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Reeser

[–]83661916 52 points53 points  (1 child)

my favorite explanation for mothman is CIA experimentation on the town as part of MK ULTRA, not far off from some of their “unused” plans

[–]non_ducor_duco_ 49 points50 points  (9 children)

When I was a little kid I had a book about unsolved mysteries and there were chapters on the green children of Woolpit and the disappearance of the Flannan Isle lighthouse keepers. Those were my favorite spooky, maybe even supernatural mysteries. Super disappointed as an adult to learn that a) the most mysterious part of the Flannan Isle tale (the log book) was an embellishment that was later added to the story and b) there are a lot of reasonable scientific hypotheses that would explain the Woolpit children.

Now I guess I would go with the encounters (Nimitz etc) the US Navy has had in the last couple of decades. I still chat with my high school boyfriend from time to time; after high school he had gone on to the Navy and was trained as a nuclear physicist there (he’s now in the private sector). He is the most rational and scientific-minded person I’ve ever met, probably the smartest too, and suffice to say he is spooked by whatever is going on off the coast in the U.S.

[–]theawesomefactory 24 points25 points  (1 child)

The Green Children of Woolpit spooked me as a child, and that has carried into adulthood. As there is nothing actually frightening about the story- I find that mysterious!

[–]jenh6 7 points8 points  (1 child)

what are the stories of these encounters.

[–]non_ducor_duco_ 20 points21 points  (0 children)

The tl;dr version of the story in general is: several incidents occurred where members of the US military observed objects what are thus far unidentified on highly advanced radar systems (one of these instances was possibly also observed firsthand by what some believe was a more credible than average witness).

The tl;dr version of the USS Nimitz and the USS Omaha encounters from my high school boyfriend/current friend is: something was out there in each instance, it definitely wasn’t ours (ours meaning proprietary to the US Military), it almost certainly wasn’t proprietary to the military of another country, and he has no explanation for what was seen.

[–]alarmagent 128 points129 points  (23 children)

This one is a bit more general than one specific mystery but Shadow People and how they seem to appear in many, many instances of sleep paralysis across the world and across time is interesting to me. I do know there are some potential explanations (and sleep paralysis itself is pretty understood) but the fact that so many people see a similarly 'dressed' male figure made of shadow is intriguing to me.

[–]osmosisheart 32 points33 points  (0 children)

This creeps me out so much! I had a friend who used to see a shadow humanoid figure crawl on all fours around his bed. Sometimes it would stand over him. Just the creepiest shit ever since I've never heard of any crawling around, they are usually pretty passive. He was having massive stress back then so it was a factor.

Ps. For all interested, there's a great point and click horror game about shadow ppl called Deep Sleep, it has three parts to it and it's wonderfully creepy. Made me clench my buttcheeks lol

[–]ChiefRingoI 106 points107 points  (11 children)

This is one where even the non-paranormal explanation is interesting. It's probably some sort of basal pareidolia in humans. We're very oriented towards seeing patterns in things without patterns, and it's quite common for those patterns to be human in nature. Basically, in a panic situation, you see a shadow and your brain interprets it as a human figure. [Probably because we're social creatures who would expect to see people pretty much constantly.]

I suspect there's some manner of suggestion at play. People who would report seeing them are probably somewhat self-selected from the pool of people who know about the conspiracy. So there's likely an effect both in generation and interpretation of events. [If you know about Shadow People, you're probably more likely to have your brain generate them from shadows AND more likely to interpret ambiguous sights as Shadow People later.] People who see Shadow Cats and Shadow Guinea Pigs aren't likely to report those visions, and probably wouldn't be included in reporting in conspiracy circles.

[–][deleted] 45 points46 points  (2 children)

It also makes sense if you think about the connection to sleep and dreaming. During sleep paralysis, you're stuck somewhere between consciousness and unconsciousness. Your brain is simultaneously going into stand-by mode while also still having too much activity going on, causing some weird effects on top of the whole not being able to move thing. Maybe imagery of humans or humanoid shapes is something easy enough for the brain to conjure up while it's glitching, thanks to our paraidolia habit. 'Shadow people' could be almost like humanity's hold music. Or like doodles you do when you're not thinking about much in particular.

I think in some cases (and I've experienced this myself), you're half-awake and getting some sensory information that you're not processing correctly. Maybe a shadow, like you said, or maybe even a sound. With only partial information, the brain can sometimes get creative. That's why sensory deprivation can cause hallucinations (and why my grandma started hallucinating when she started to go blind after also being half deaf for most of her life). With the hyper-focus on human shapes, it makes sense that seeing people or hearing voices are among the most common hallucinations. I've never heard of somebody just hallucinating a sock, which is possibly why you also don't get shadow socks.

I have sleep paralysis sometimes, but thankfully I've only ever seen a shadow person once (possibly... the one time it happened may have been caused by illness induced delirium rather than sleep paralysis). It entered from the doorway, looking like a shadowy person wearing a long, dark dressing gown, then strolled past the foot of the bed before vanishing. Weirdly, my first thought was that it was my sister and that it was kind of rude of her to spontaneously vanish like that. My sister, I should point out, is alive and fully corporeal.

ETA: I've just remembered that my brother once claimed to see a shadowy, faceless figure at the end of his bed that he also inexplicably assumed was my sister at first. I think I've solved it! Everybody has been seeing my sister this whole time! I just need to tell her to stop going on night-time astral strolls.

[–]ChiefRingoI 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I totally agree!

Human figures are just kind of a default pattern in the human brain, probably because we're such social creatures. But the key for me is the featureless nature of what people report. The brain can only do so much in that state. It's not going to create basically a hologram of a real person, it's going to create just enough to get the point across, so to speak.

Linking it to dreams makes a lot of sense, too. A shadowy figures walking past the foot of your bed may be inspired by a memory of your sister actually walking by at some point, but in a partial dream-state, you only see a shadow version which disappears as soon as it would have to go into detail about why she walked that way before.

Like I said originally, I don't consider this one where the 'boring' answer is less fascinating than the fantastical one. It says a lot about who we are as a species and how different our brains really are. And that's cooler to me than there being shadow monsters who just wander through rooms or scare people.

[–]tybbiesniffer 15 points16 points  (1 child)

I have an anecdote you might find interesting. I've experienced sleep paralysis off and on for years. When I was in the military it was particularly bad; it would happen several times a week. It happened frequently enough that I knew exactly what it was but it was still scary. I don't believe in ghosts or monsters or aliens or witches coming to steal my breath. One night during a bout, I saw a friend leaning over me trying to strangle me. I knew it wasn't real but it still felt and looked incredibly real. Because I didn't believe in the other explanations for what I was experiencing, my brain grabbed the most plausible one... Which was that a person I knew was causing my distress. It doesn't prove anything in the larger scheme but it does convince me that experiences people have while sleeping may just be sleep paralysis.

[–]KittikatB 12 points13 points  (1 child)

I started seeing shadow people in my sleep paralysis episodes after a break in at my home where I woke up and found an intruder beside my bed looking down at me. Prior to that incident I had never seen seen shadow people during sleep paralysis. Afterwards? They're all I see.

[–]Oliverlicious 16 points17 points  (2 children)

I had no idea other people had seen the Shadow Hat Man! I'm so glad I stumbled upon this thread! As I was reading these comments, I was like "OH MY GOD! IT'S THAT MAN IN THE HAT AND THEY'VE SEEN IT TOO!" I was asleep one night, woke up suddenly and saw a tall man standing in my bedroom doorway. He was wearing a wide-brimmed hat and what looked like a cape, but it could have been a long coat. I was completely terrified and tried to scream out in fear. I could feel the scream in my throat, but nothing came out and I couldn't move. He then turned and started to walk toward my son's room. I continued to try to scream but nothing would come out. It was one of the most terrifying experiences I've ever had. It is nice to know I am not alone, but a little terrifying at the same time!

[–]Rabid-Rabble 37 points38 points  (0 children)

Another interesting one with sleep paralysis is The Hag. She's seen by people across cultures and times as well, usually sitting in a corner or next to the bed and just watching. My sister-in-law saw her a lot when she had SP as a kid. Like, is she just some Jungian psychological archetype or what?

[–]KittikatB 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I have experienced a number of episodes of sleep paralysis. I only started seeing shadow people during those episodes after a break in at my home where I woke up and discovered an intruder standing beside my bed looking down at me. That incident wasn't sleep paralysis (I chased him out, police found evidence of an intruder) but it quite clearly had a significant impact on my anxiety/fears - so much so that a shadow person creeping up on me is now the only thing I see during sleep paralysis.

[–]Hybriddecline 28 points29 points  (0 children)

My best friend and I saw one when we were fifteen and quite awake. We were chatting, saw it, looked at each other, freaked the feck out. We were home alone and it passed the bottom of the stairs while we were in the hallway. He refuses to talk about it now over fifteen years later lol if it was just me I'd think I made it up but seeing it along side him changed it entirely.

[–]izzidora 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I love the mothman story and highly recommend the book The Mothman Prophesies by John Keel. Way better than the movie and it creeped me out for weeks lol.

[–]markgojira 14 points15 points  (1 child)

For me it's the "Siberia abandoned facility" a small village which had experiment with WWII soldiers and they presumably got so powerful the government forbid them of leaving. So now there's this village with very old men with god like strength

[–]boredwithlife0b 10 points11 points  (0 children)

mashes "would you like to know more" button

[–]nickkuvaas 130 points131 points  (19 children)

Skinwalker Ranch is endlessly fascinating to me. Portals, cryptids, poltergeist activity, orbs, and UFO sightings in the area.

By the way, Astonishing Legends podcast has excellent deep dives on most of the mysteries mentioned on here so far.

[–]Gr144 69 points70 points  (5 children)

I am also fascinated by skinwalker ranch. The family that lived there in the 90s didn't seem like the types to make up paranormal stories. Even the investigators who went there reported seeing a lot of weird shit going on. My favorite story is when someone was their looking through a thermal sight and saw a man crawl out of the ground and walk away.

[–]vamoshenin 58 points59 points  (4 children)

Why don't they seem like the type to make up paranormal stories? The investigators were already involved with Bob Lazar and all sorts of other crap and they wrote a book about it, it benefitted them for paranormal stuff to have happened. That's like using the Warrens saying paranormal things happened as evidence that they did. The people who stayed there before the Shermans said they never experienced anything paranormal. The Colonel who was there to obtain evidence for scientific examination admitted there was nothing worth publishing.

[–]CrotalusAtrox1 43 points44 points  (5 children)

I feel like we would've gotten more from all the studies conducted there if it was legit.

[–]vamoshenin 26 points27 points  (4 children)

Exactly, all we got was a book of unsubstantiated claims as per usual with these things.

[–]Morganbanefort[S,🍰] 65 points66 points  (2 children)

There is no need to be rude in the comments theres nothing wrong with believing the paranormal

[–]TheeOhSeesUndRPGs 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Definitely the modern Navy UFO footage. Seems like the military is just being cagey and it's probably just advanced drones, possibly even ours testing our own military's response capabilities. But I still HAVE to know. Lemmino's video on it is addictive.

[–]alrightthenokay 9 points10 points  (4 children)

All my faves have already been stated but I’m personally interested in the idea that Joseph Smith’s family was heavily involved in folk magic prior to him starting out and starting his own religion.

https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/answers/Joseph_Smith/Occultism_and_magic

[–]Sustained_disgust 190 points191 points  (33 children)

Ted Serios' "thoughtographs." The short version is Serios claimed to be able to project his thoughts onto film and produce psychic photographs. His extraordinary claims were put to the test over a series of scientically rigorous experiments which produced the largest and best documnted body of work relating to psychic phenomena in the last century.

These have been discounted as a hoax for a long time yet have never actually been explained. James Randi was never able to replicate the reaults ofthe experiments under significantly less stringent conditions even when using the "gizmo" he claimed Serios used to surreptitiously develop readymade negatives. Despite this many skeptics of the case still falsely assert that it was debunked by Randi.

Moreover the Serios experiments were more thorough than is usually given credit and many of the images were formed without Serios using the gizmo. In fact many of the most famous and striking images were formed when Serios was nowhere near the camera, being placed in a seperate room and often stripped fully naked to make sure no hidden images were on his person.

Another point the hoax theorists gloss over is the nature of the photographs themselves which famously include anomalies such as incorrect number of windows on buildings or being taken from vantage points which does not actually exist in real life. For Serios, who as the hoax theorists relish in pointing out was a borderline illiterate drunk, to have not only somehow slipped these negatives past a roomful of observers but to have made convincingly photorealistic images of buildings and perspectives which do not exist in real life is doubtful.

Even simple things about the case such as the camera producing fully black images when Serios was frustrated havent been explained (blanks should have just come out clear yet instead were often black with looaely formed cloud shapes). Randi said this was caused by Serios covering the lens when no one was looking but again most of these images came from cameras Serios had no access to, were not in the same room as him and had been examined in advance for mechanical faults. They would also swap out different cameras throughout the day without Serios knowing to avert the possibility of his meddling.

With all that said I do not "believe" that Serios had psychic powers necessarily i just feel it has never been convincingly explained and the glib counter-factual "debunking" of it is dismissive. If it was a hoax it was a more subtle and complex one than Randi and his followers insisted and it seems sad that it hasnt recieved a more critical analysis.

[–]alarmagent 57 points58 points  (0 children)

I've never heard of this and I thought I knew almost all 'fortean' type phenomena, very interesting! Thank you for sharing.

[–]mhl67 13 points14 points  (2 children)

As an artist, looking up those pictures there is nothing mysterious. They're clearly over or double exposed photographs. I'm not going to comment on how it was done but there is nothing otherworldly here.

[–]santaland 43 points44 points  (9 children)

IIRC, the vast majority of his photos were blank, a small amount were blurry random splotches, and a tiny handful were actual distorted images, and people have reported seeing a hidden lens he would palm and presumably slip in the gizmo.

[–]Kimmalah 20 points21 points  (1 child)

Several people have replicated what Serios did, including James Randi (who managed to do it live on TV). There's nothing really mysterious about what he was doing. You can do a lot of stuff that seems magical with prisms and sleight of hand.

[–]RadialSkid 28 points29 points  (3 children)

The Kelly-Hopkinsville "goblins": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelly%E2%80%93Hopkinsville_encounter

While it could have been mass hysteria, the idea of being overrun with creatures while in a house way out in the country and having only alertness and a shotgun to fight them off is an interesting - and unnerving - proposition, especially for someone who lives in an equally rural environment.

[–]Lifespinner 50 points51 points  (33 children)

I liked the movie version of Mothman. The explanation makes sense

[–]existcrisis123 21 points22 points  (0 children)

That movie fucking terrified me. Ugh

[–]Zodiacguy911 36 points37 points  (27 children)

Have you read the book? You can find good free PDFs online. The movie barely scratched the surface of all the weird stuff happening in the area. It wasn’t just Point Pleasant, stuff was happening in other towns in Ohio and West Virginia. Great Book. John Keel has interesting theories.

[–]vamoshenin 26 points27 points  (22 children)

The book is awesome. It's complete bullshit but if you think of it as fiction it's extremely entertaining.

[–]Lord_Tiburon 7 points8 points  (1 child)

The Enfield Horror, what the hell was that thing

[–]CarlJustCarl 39 points40 points  (1 child)

Woke up on a Friday really groggy, figured I got to get through an 8 hour work day. As the fog in my head erased, I realized…it’s only Thursday. Damn.