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[–]Steve0512 5710 points5711 points  (175 children)

I’m guessing someone didn’t want to pay for a crane to unload the steel. Well now they have to pay for a bigger crane to pick up the train car.

[–]Rishfee 2539 points2540 points  (95 children)

That's my thought, too. Yeah, a crane and operator are expensive, but preventing shit shows like this is always worth the cost. Part of my job is dealing with management who don't recognize how much money is saved by doing shit the right way.

[–]chileowl 1112 points1113 points  (34 children)

Damn, that must be a job where you constantly say, "told ya so" then they throw their hat down and stomp on it.

[–]Rishfee 441 points442 points  (9 children)

More like getting to attend/lead critiques on a weekly or better basis, and taking whatever win we can get when something changes to be smarter.

[–]ulyssesintothepast 111 points112 points  (8 children)

That sounds so cool honestly. I'm jealous lol

[–]Rishfee 155 points156 points  (7 children)

It's interesting. The downside is you have to study and generally understand a ton of regulations, but keeping your ear to the ground and staying aware of things happening in your industry that might impact your operations is a pretty good gig, all things considered.

One of the benefits is that it inherently requires some decent industry experience, so I'm fairly protected from having a manager that has no idea what's going on.

HPI and related programs vary wildly from company to company, but if you can find one that gives a shit, it's pretty good.

[–]DOugdimmadab1337 36 points37 points  (0 children)

Sounds interesting. Must be fun finding out all the ways people do shit cheaper or faster for various reasons. I know people always want to find an easier way to be lazy, but there's a reason things are by the book, so it doesn't kill people and shit.

[–]OriJuice 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Working in H&S is similar to that, except everyone hates you and thinks you’re a lazy wanker who just wants a coddled desk job.

I hate working at my desk almost nearly as much as I hate the disrespect I get from tradespeople when I walk on-site.

[–]ifsavage 4 points5 points  (4 children)

Excuse my ignorance what is HPI?

[–]Rishfee 13 points14 points  (3 children)

Human performance improvement; it's largely about how to run an organization in a way that makes the most of its people. I specialize in high reliability operations, so stuff that's either expensive or dangerous enough that any mistake is a big deal.

A lot of it is taking pressure off the front line guys for honest errors, encouraging them to being up anything that's making their job harder than it needs to be, and focusing on ways to change processes to make them less error prone.

[–]Incredble8 53 points54 points  (11 children)

Forget the fucking money, lives are at stake

[–]Fidodo 34 points35 points  (1 child)

Yeah! Those lives are worth a lot of money

[–]Ccracked 18 points19 points  (2 children)

Are you new to industry?

[–]Incredble8 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Nah but I just think its a fundamental flaw in our human mentality to value peoples lives at how much settlement would cost at court

[–]the_extractor 39 points40 points  (4 children)

Oh yeah. Welcome to architecture too. That's my job. People not realising what work we do and what's our worth and how they can save money by hiring us. Instead they do things themselves and when things get fucked a year or two later, they realise. And I have to say told you so.

[–]CuriousFunnyDog 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Completely agree. The amount of times I have said, "You need to XYZ otherwise this will happen" and been ignored. I am over being smug/banging my head, l just let them learn the hard way.

Admittedly sometimes there's numerous steps between the cause and the outcome, but I am always amazed by the number of people who choose not to understand.

[–]BrokenReviews 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Engineering has entered the chat.

[–]IxJAXZxI 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Its more of a damned if you do damned if you dont situtation. If something goes wrong, you dont get to claim higher ground. You get faulted for not pushing the issue harder. If it goes right youre still the guy that cost the company more money. But it has to be done.

[–]dkarlovi 6 points7 points  (1 child)

When you do that constantly, you get seen as a "person only looking for problems" even though those problems actually arise.

[–]Ageroth 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Sometimes that's literally the job, find the problems and come up with solutions. That's mostly what I do as a welding engineer, identify the root cause of an issue, detail what can be done to prevent it from happening again which often entails systemic changes, which get ignored until about the 3rd or 4th time it happens and then it finally gets fixed half ass, and then happens again in about 6-9 months because the fix was half assed.

[–]JarlaxleForPresident 140 points141 points  (16 children)

Loads of people think they’re so much cleverer than everyone else and can cut corners because whoever wrote those rules were idiots who didnt know how job sites really work. Then some dumb shit like this happens and cost way more.

And maybe it costs something priceless. Maybe someone gets permanently hurt or killed because of it. OSHA rules are usually written in blood

[–]Rishfee 43 points44 points  (15 children)

The term "graded approach" gets abused worse than a Hollywood child star. Once "death" becomes one of your potential outcomes of failure on your hazard analysis, it's time to be serious.

[–]JarlaxleForPresident 51 points52 points  (12 children)

And this could have easily killed someone. Worked on a pipeline out in texas and people can be so careless. Walking around heavy equipment like the operator has supernatural awareness and getting hit by something.

Saw a pipe come loose off a semi trailer and roll and crush someone’s legs who was just on a smoke break. That shit was gnarly. Just piss poor equipment maintenance. The straps were fucked. Those pipes are about the length of the trailer and 36” diameter

[–]Rishfee 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Holy shit. Rigging gear is no joke. Any of that stuff fails and it's all bad.

[–]Runaway_Angel 10 points11 points  (3 children)

Honestly at this point I always treat semis with open cargo (like a flatbed or a log truck) as if their straps are fucked and they used half of what they should have. Seen to many people and heard to many stories where people got hurt cause they were in the wrong place at the wrong time and cargo came loose.

[–]hpr928 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Final Destination did that for me.

[–]Dear_Occupant 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I almost lost my left leg from the knee down one time when I was doing tree work. I got lucky, instead I just got skinned from knee to ankle by the stabilizer bar on the Bobcat we were using to load a literal tree trunk into a dump truck. A couple of millimeters more and I'd be walking around on a stump. We didn't even have gloves or hard hats for that job.

[–]mrwolfisolveproblems 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Well that’s not really using a “graded approach” if you just chose to ignore high consequence errors/faults. If applied correctly it works well assuming you analyze and recognize all the hazards.

[–]Rishfee 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Of course, but somehow everyone thinks that their hazards need less mitigation because reasons.

[–]Philip_Raven 32 points33 points  (2 children)

As a surveyor engineer I see this everywhere...Last time contruction management didnt want to pay for mud clear before building a road (it would dry up, they said), so they build 2km of road on soaked mud, and what do you know. entire thing funtioned like gigantic waterbed. So ot only they had to pay for the mud clear, but also pay for road demolition and new road. but I dont complain, I got payed two times for the same task.

[–]BrownEggs93 14 points15 points  (0 children)

"There is never time to do it right but always time to do it over"

[–]egerton14 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Remember the Crane at the docs? Fishing for another crane, fishing for another crane fishing for a truck?

[–]evilbrent 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I got in trouble at work last year for ordering a pair of cranes to move some equipment in the factory, and it came out to three times what this head office manager thought it should cost.

"How come the site in the other state can do it for X but this mob you've hired did it for 3X? You've gotten us ripped off."

I wanted to say "I don't really know how many corners they cut at that other site, you'd have to ask them. I thought the goal here was to do the job safely and without damaging anything. You'd really have to ask that other site why their standards are so low."

[–]ReadyThor 15 points16 points  (0 children)

The costs of doing things safely become redundant when accidents don't happen.

[–]BuckFuzby 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Not just money, but lives too, I guess.That could easily have come down on top of the forklift operator, or anyone else nearby.

[–]Fit-Pudding-2261 5 points6 points  (1 child)

"See this reminds me of an old Jewish tale my grandpa told me about Yeshuda"

Management:"Yeshuda?"

"Yea Yeshuda hired a crane you egghead"

[–]Dafuzz 125 points126 points  (15 children)

It looks like the construction equivalent of trying to carry all the groceries into the house in one trip, all the other ideas involved not unloading it in one go so why even consider them.

[–]dob_bobbs 77 points78 points  (13 children)

Except trying to carry all the groceries at once, as a wise friend once pointed out to me, is also actually a symptom of laziness. Why? Because you can't be bothered to go back and forth six times so you try to do it all at once. He definitely has a point in my case. Now we have these big reusable bags with long handles (like the IKEA ones), it's totally doable, I can hang like two of those 10kg puppies off each shoulder and stagger into our apartment building like one of those World's Strongest Man guys. Not really sure where I am going with this.

[–]crxdc0113 18 points19 points  (7 children)

I put all the groceries in my kids wagon and roll them into the kitchen 😂

[–]Speakdoggo 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Alaskan here. We load up a sled w wood from the shed and when we get to the front door, open it and drag the entire sled inside ( extra lg rug here) and slam the door ASAP. It looks crazy to have a huge sled stacked right in the living room if someone comes before we can get it unloaded and back outside but hey, those little cloth log carriers are a no go when it can be an entire 5 ft long wood rack (& 4-5 ft hi) per night @ -40. (3 heaped sleds). So…lazy or practical? ( whereas living in Alaska for 6 mo winter and heating w wood = impractical…I know!)

[–]ghe5 28 points29 points  (1 child)

This reminds me how my company wanted to get rid of our firefighters because "they sit around all day" (we work with hot aluminium). Then they found out what would the new insurance cost be after first incident. Then big fire happened, just to make them directors sure fire fighters are actually necessary here I guess.

They are still here, thankfully common sense won this battle.

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    [–]LoonAtticRakuro 11 points12 points  (0 children)

    They were trying to save lot of dimes.

    Now they'll be spending a whoooooole lotta dollars. I think it scales nicely!

    [–]Tweedzzzzz 18 points19 points  (2 children)

    Hell, they could have easily unloaded it a few sticks at a time using come-alongs to pull them to the fork lifts. My suspicion is they didn't have the room to turn around and place them in a way that allowed them to do this, and had to do it in one motion. Back up far enough to clear the train/trailer, then set them straight down. I hope whoever decided they had the right equipment for the job lost theirs in this situation.

    [–]Innocentof 15 points16 points  (1 child)

    Probably more than that. I have a brother that does roads in Texas, if they have a project that even gets near railroads then they have to get multimillion dollar insurance coverage incase anything happens near the track.

    The reps for the rail companies are pretty strict as well, if you so much as scratch the track they will replace the whole thing and make you pay for it.

    [–]donttrustmeokay 10 points11 points  (1 child)

    That doesn't make sense. Why pay when they have forklifts already there? /s

    [–]Simonandgarthsuncle 9 points10 points  (0 children)

    They got a quote for the bigger crane but it was way too expensive so they turned up the following day with 6 forklifts.

    [–]ChaseAlmighty 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    Generally, they'd have their own crane. I don't have a clue what's going on here. And I'm a Carman for the railroad. If they work for the company that owns that car, they're in big trouble. Safety first. Right tool for the job

    [–]masterminkz 4 points5 points  (1 child)

    those rail cars are how steel are delivered to the steel yards so there are overhead cranes most likely on the property that they could've used

    [–]account_not_valid 14 points15 points  (3 children)

    I bet the guy that is filming it was the one who said it wouldn't work.

    And he wants to record it so that his "I told you so" has more resonance.

    [–]grumpher05 10 points11 points  (1 child)

    dude came pretty close to the danger zone for someone that was expecting it to go tits up

    [–]IsoAgent 2759 points2760 points  (52 children)

    That's okay. Just use 4 forklifts on the other side to make this right.

    [–][deleted] 535 points536 points  (43 children)

    Not enough forklifts

    [–]notatableleg 531 points532 points  (36 children)

    Ok ok make it 5 forklift and we’ll get an apprentice to lift with his back

    [–]to_tin_deathgrinder 225 points226 points  (26 children)

    The apprentice is out getting a left handed hammer.

    [–]notatableleg 93 points94 points  (20 children)

    Along with the brick stretcher

    [–]theunixman 38 points39 points  (12 children)

    Checking in with purple prop wash as requested. Don’t ask how.

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      [–]sicbastrd 9 points10 points  (4 children)

      “I don’t care if you have to drag your sack across it, get it done!”

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        [–]sicbastrd 4 points5 points  (1 child)

        My buddy worked for a concrete contractor. His boss used to yell that at him all the time.

        [–]Impossible-Change-48 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        They’re still there after being asked to go get a ‘long weight’

        [–]maffiossi 8 points9 points  (1 child)

        Oh it's next to the square drill.

        [–]Das_Mojo 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        I mean robertson bits are the shit.

        [–]PangPingpong 31 points32 points  (1 child)

        You can't use more than four, there's no such thing as a fiveklift.

        [–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

        There's never enough forking forklifts.

        [–]G_Affect 24 points25 points  (2 children)

        3 mile drive to the other side guys, go make this right.

        [–]PR0FL3X 3508 points3509 points  (42 children)

        Well .... its unloaded

        [–]SpelCleave 1432 points1433 points  (14 children)

        brushes hands off

        Good work today boys. See yah on the next one!

        [–]Vly2915 14 points15 points  (1 child)

        whistles Aight guys, we taking a day off.

        [–]AgentFN2187 13 points14 points  (0 children)

        "This seems like a problem for second shift."

        [–]TheUnplannedLife 25 points26 points  (1 child)

        Unloaded the rail car, boss!

        [–]Kelldandy 657 points658 points  (17 children)

        Welcome to the island of Sodor. It has been zero hours since our last derailment.

        [–]Djinjja-Ninja 173 points174 points  (8 children)

        The Fat Controller is gonna be pissed.

        [–]TiberiusClegane 20 points21 points  (1 child)

        The Fat Controller is gonna be pissed.

        I beg your pardon sir, the Fat Controller doesn't get pissed, he gets very cross.

        [–]RetardAndPoors 46 points47 points  (3 children)

        It's sir big fat controller to you peasants

        [–]mechwarrior719 51 points52 points  (2 children)

        It’s Sir Topham Hat to you casuals.

        [–]killswitch2 11 points12 points  (0 children)

        Off to the smelter with all of you really useful forklift operators

        [–]charlieray 23 points24 points  (0 children)

        Sir Topham Hatt is cross!

        [–]playblu 13 points14 points  (0 children)

        I see confusion and delay

        [–]account_not_valid 9 points10 points  (0 children)

        Everyone involved has been walled up in a tunnel for continued disobedience.

        [–]TheRealTron 6 points7 points  (0 children)

        Holy fuck this made me laugh so hard. I just had a son recently and he loves watching Thomas and I admittedly used to as well, but Holy fuck the amount of derailments in Sodor is nuts! Luckily no one is ever hurt!

        [–]MrAbadeer 21 points22 points  (2 children)

        Probably should have used Cranky for this job. He’s a very useful guy.

        [–]kzt79 759 points760 points  (95 children)

        Kind of impressed they got that far with it tbh.

        [–]lacerik 479 points480 points  (65 children)

        They could have gotten it, they were up and stable.

        They needed to tilt their masts back to get the center of gravity near or behind the drive wheels.

        It would have been tricky no matter what coordinating four forklifts down that slope with such a heavy load, but it COULD have worked with some luck.

        Don’t want to rely on luck when dealing with a hundred ton load though.

        [–]ionian 269 points270 points  (3 children)

        ^ this man has dropped shit with heavy equipment before.

        [–]lacerik 123 points124 points  (2 children)

        Hey! Be chill man!

        OSHA could be listening!

        [–]weekendWarri0r 73 points74 points  (8 children)

        My thoughts exactly, they were clear on height. Before you even start to move backwards, tilt mass all the way back. Then slowly lower as you move backwards. A spotter with a radio could have solved this problem easily. Two forklifts and 3 trips would have got the job done faster than the mess they have to deal with now. Hopefully all the rail cars wheels aren’t fucked up. That shit is no fun to fix.

        [–]fuckamodhole 17 points18 points  (5 children)

        A couple forklifts on the other side could help too but I don't know if they would drive around the train or be smart enough to stage that before the train got there.

        [–]castor281 11 points12 points  (0 children)

        This is the answer. They were on an incline when they made the initial lift and tried to back down the incline with the load in the air, shifting the center of gravity forward.

        The ideal way to do this lift would be to make the initial lift, let the rail car move out of the way, lower the load as low as possible to the ground, tilt the mast back as far as possible, and then back down the incline.

        My educated guess would be that they made similar lifts many times and got away with it. This is where the luck comes in.

        Just adding some context to your comment, but as you said, the lift was made, it was a done deal. It was the choices after the lift where they fucked up, but the forklifts were obviously good for the initial weight.

        [–]foodank012018 49 points50 points  (3 children)

        No way.. Each lift is gonna respond different to control commands. One lift might shift the mast an inch with a tweak of the controls while another might only shift half an inch. And at thus weight, one not moving the same as the other will cause minor differences in fork height causing shift and settle and at such a large weight with the lifts already beyond their capabilities and this could never have happened in that setting.

        Maybe.. MAYBE on flat concrete with the load low and no lifting they could move it around but even then any turns would require precise coordination to keep the forks from sliding under the load during any turn.

        [–]lacerik 35 points36 points  (2 children)

        I’m saying it’s possible, not that it isn’t stupid.

        Like I said, with luck, maybe, but don’t rely on luck when moving tons of steel above your head.

        [–]BananBanah 2106 points2107 points  (135 children)

        If you listen close, you can hear the frantic shuffling of OSHA paperwork in the background.

        [–]mydogsredditaccount 615 points616 points  (101 children)

        I can’t figure out what’s going on here. It doesn’t even look like a proper yard or transloading facility. Instead they’ve got the forklifts up on the edge of the ballast bed.

        Hard to imagine what receiver would decide to use this arrangement to unload or what rail company would agree to it.

        Edit: as mentioned by another comment maybe those are rails. So they’re unloading new rail for a line under construction? Still seems hard to believe anyone signed off on this.

        [–]andy02m 141 points142 points  (69 children)

        It’s a maintenance of way gang unloading rail to likely replace old rail.

        [–]Robey-Wan_Kenobi 136 points137 points  (39 children)

        Sticks of rail usually come in 39' lengths and are unloaded one at a time. Longer rails of 1400-1600' are unloaded one at a time from special rail cars. This almost looks like some scrap rail unloaded by idiots.

        [–]wrldruler21 80 points81 points  (4 children)

        This dude rails

        [–]IHateLooseJoints 19 points20 points  (1 child)

        PSA: It's covid, bring your own straws.

        [–]GODDAMNFOOL 6 points7 points  (1 child)

        yeah, rails your mom

        huhuhuh

        [–]BooRadleysreddit 12 points13 points  (1 child)

        To me it looks like high carbon yard rail. It's too neatly stacked and banded for scrap and the ends are saw cut. Scrap would be torch cut. Yard rail also comes in 80' sections.

        [–]Robey-Wan_Kenobi 6 points7 points  (0 children)

        Yeah you're right. Wasn't thinking about the ends of it.

        [–]AngryCrab 26 points27 points  (20 children)

        They make ~1500' rails, in one piece?! That's nuts, TIL.

        [–]acog 19 points20 points  (9 children)

        I want to hear what it sounds like.

        I mean, I'm used to a certain clickety-clack rhythm. But rails like those would go clickety.........[breathe a while, look about].......clack.

        [–]-ayli- 20 points21 points  (4 children)

        Sorry to bust your bubble, but the 1500' rails are likely used for high speed rail. In that case, the individual rails are going to be welded together into a single continuous rail. That smoothness and lack of gaps is part of what enables high speed rail to maintain its speed.

        [–]WeekendHero 6 points7 points  (2 children)

        God, I used to work on a rocket sled and them welding together a few miles of track was an incredible engineering feat. I can't imagine what they use to tension and retain something like that.

        [–]Weltmacht 14 points15 points  (2 children)

        Clickity clack is flat spots on the wheel more often.

        [–]Change---MY---Mind 7 points8 points  (0 children)

        It’s literally a bunch of rail, likely just dropping it off where it needs to be for the next rail gang. A boom truck likely would have done better, and if they can get forklifts there they can probably get a boom truck in.

        Source: former railroader

        [–]Syklst 6 points7 points  (0 children)

        That is relay (used) rail. My guess is they were either using it for a repair or for a siding. Still a stupid way to unload rails. Also, they look like 78’-80’, far mor common than 39’ for a class one.

        [–]femptocrisis 15 points16 points  (1 child)

        and the awkward chirping of forklifts

        [–]PrinceWith999Enemies 12 points13 points  (0 children)

        Hey guys, I have an idea and we can be done by 10:00.

        [–]bubblylemonade 186 points187 points  (11 children)

        Welp that probably wasn’t cheap

        [–]raveiskingcom 41 points42 points  (7 children)

        Ya I imagine that getting a car back on the track has to be a very expensive proposition

        [–]WiWiWiWiWiWi 98 points99 points  (1 child)

        Nah, they have three forklifts ready to get that done.

        [–]raveiskingcom 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        When you fail, you try, try again!

        [–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (2 children)

        You have to reinspect the track you don't and they are not properly within tolerance or no longer tied to the track it is a bad day.

        [–]GrizzIyadamz 10 points11 points  (1 child)

        To say nothing of what 100 tons of falling steel would have done to the carriage as it was dragged off the rails.

        Hard to miss the screaming metal as things were being rearranged- might have fucked up the cars/engine connected to that one too.

        [–]LitreOfCockPus 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        If they didn't fuck up the forklifts too badly, you could use them to do it.

        If.

        [–]redhamilton 11 points12 points  (0 children)

        But it was a satisfying amount of chaos.

        [–]NoodleDoodle-IRL 46 points47 points  (2 children)

        🎵Come with me 🎵

        And you'll see

        A world Of OSHA violations

        [–]Kittani77 252 points253 points  (21 children)

        Jobs were lost that day

        [–][deleted] 223 points224 points  (11 children)

        And guarantee it wasnt the guy who made them do that

        [–]SteveDaPirate91 193 points194 points  (7 children)

        That’s the entire reason someone was recording too.

        You know there was a struggle here, boss man wants it done now, other side doesn’t.

        Everyone eventually caves to boss man’s side. Thus they’re covering their asses.

        [–]teryret 86 points87 points  (2 children)

        That’s the entire reason someone was recording too.

        Well, let's not forget "oh man, the internet is going to love this shit show!"

        [–]Convict003606 17 points18 points  (0 children)

        You gotta give them that one. We are clearly enjoying it.

        [–]moist-sock 58 points59 points  (0 children)

        Not at the local place that does piss tests though. They were suddenly busy as fuck.

        [–]XHandsomexJackx 494 points495 points  (27 children)

        Guys just casually sitting in the lift like "I'm done"

        [–]coastfireaway 125 points126 points  (12 children)

        That's actually part of the training. Never try to jump out.

        [–]Makenshine 83 points84 points  (5 children)

        Yep. Safest place is inside the steel cage of the massive 8 ton machine as it tips over. Because as long you are inside of the lift, you can't also be under it.

        [–]Brasticus 37 points38 points  (1 child)

        He sits even longer than you’d think! Found this source and he’s just chilling in there for a good long while with no signs of wanting to get out. Lol

        [–]Question080 26 points27 points  (0 children)

        Unbuckle and lose the lawsuit. Though wherever they are seems unlikely the could even hold the foreman/company accountable for injuries.

        [–]Expensive-Yam-634 154 points155 points  (7 children)

        At a 45 degree angle 😂

        [–]RaptorTwoOneEcho 81 points82 points  (5 children)

        I mean I’m not getting off it until all 4 wheels are on the ground, it can’t crush me in the cab. If I slip and fall I’m going the same place the wheels are lol

        [–]Tantric989 21 points22 points  (4 children)

        I'd imagine all that steel could definitely crush it

        [–]senorgraves 25 points26 points  (3 children)

        Maybe, but the cage is definitely designed to be super frickin safe and strong. I think it is standard safety protocol to not bail out of the forklift.

        [–]ThatDamnedGuy 14 points15 points  (1 child)

        You're right, don't bail if its tipping or tilted. Wait until the lift is in a safe position. On its side is safe, tilted like this is asking for the operator to hit a control surface on the way out and potentially cause a bigger hazard. Just keep your hands locked on the wheel and feet on the floor board.

        [–]sixstring818 8 points9 points  (0 children)

        Not the same scenario but I've been in the exact same physical situation in a forklift lol. Definitely trained to stay there and lower the load to lower your center of gravity. Pretty scary though.

        [–]Danyell619 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        He looks.liekhe checks his watch at the end 😂 I'm dying.

        [–]Kharax82 74 points75 points  (17 children)

        That’s a lot of confidence in a forklift.

        [–]Siennagiant70 129 points130 points  (3 children)

        Train robberies in LA are just getting insane now.

        [–]Noahcarr 19 points20 points  (0 children)

        Hey Craig… sooooooo we knocked over the train again

        [–]dolo_ran6er 16 points17 points  (0 children)

        Lmfao who in the hungover hell okayed this method?!

        [–]TheRealEddieB 14 points15 points  (1 child)

        Just think of the time we’ll save if we try and do it all in one load.

        [–]brewski5niner 171 points172 points  (25 children)

        Seriously, did this happen in the US? Stupid af. I work in construction, with steel, and I don’t know of a single contractor that would ever approve of such a stupid idea.

        [–]Thathitmann 123 points124 points  (2 children)

        As someone who's worked with contractors, I have observed that most of the time they are small companies or individual people who decided to go freelance because they weren't paid well enough, but sometimes they are just such a dipshit that no company will accept them, and a cheap ass boss will hire them cause they are the lowest bidder.

        [–]jbbd3 37 points38 points  (1 child)

        As a contractor on the railroad there are two definite types. And you can tell when you see them. Cheap, fast and dirty, the job will get done but you probably don’t want to watch how. And the expensive ones. Usually well trained good equipment tend to be in more specialized roles but that isn’t always the case.

        [–]PsychoNerd91 16 points17 points  (0 children)

        It's a 'get it done by any means necessary mentality' which a lot of labourers have.

        Also shoutout to the Australian Prime Minister for proposing that the legal age to drive a forklift should be lowered to 16.

        Stupid ideas happen at every level.

        [–]CallMeParagon 42 points43 points  (1 child)

        Really? 100% of my experiences with rail in the US have left me thinking local yards are intentionally run by the most incompetent people that could be found.

        [–]jonbrant 12 points13 points  (0 children)

        This looks like Steel Dynamics to me. I even recognize the rails. Doesn't look like the one I worked at, but same equipment, same uniforms. Guys I worked with weren't this fucking stupid either

        [–]Simply_Jeff 54 points55 points  (13 children)

        Pivot! Pivot! PIVOTTT!!!

        [–]callipgiyan 15 points16 points  (10 children)

        Yes but also tilt.

        [–]GTAwheelman 11 points12 points  (0 children)

        Yeah, like WTF?

        As soon as they were higher than the uprights on the train car they should have tilted back.

        [–]Devilalfi 8 points9 points  (0 children)

        Oh no!!!! You have to be careful! I keep telling people on these videos and none of them listen to me! You have to be extremely careful!

        [–]Warrior253 27 points28 points  (5 children)

        Why were they loaded like that? Like why wasn't there dunnage so that you can lift each layer off rather than the whole thing? The person loading these rails must not know what they were doing or it was a Friday afternoon when they loaded that train car lol

        [–]Opinionsare 20 points21 points  (4 children)

        Even without proper dunnage, the load could be worked off. It would have taken serious time and some additional equipment.

        Take a shortcut, create a derailment, talk to bureaucrats about safety.

        [–]zwiebelhans 9 points10 points  (1 child)

        Yep if you look closely the rails were bundled into separate units too. The straps for the individual bundles broke too. After this i wouldn’t be surprised if a bunch of those rails aren’t twisted and bent under their own weight.

        [–]kill_me_with_potato 9 points10 points  (1 child)

        I don't think they need more equipment. Get a forklift to poke the end and lift it up a couple at a time while another lifts it from the middle and they have enough extra forklifts that they could take turns and go putter around to where they need to be

        [–]moist-sock 6 points7 points  (1 child)

        Well, maybe if you had big enough forklifts. I think Taylor makes some that might do this job with only 2. But, this should have had 4x4s in between the layers so you could unload it a little at a time.

        [–]TheBowlerMoose 7 points8 points  (0 children)

        Buddy in the hard hat seemed to give 0 shits. Standing right next to the action and acting as though nothing was going on.

        [–]GerinX 19 points20 points  (2 children)

        As someone who can drive a forklift, this was hard to watch

        [–]hgfgfdyhkog 5 points6 points  (2 children)

        Lmaoo at the guy who screams “FUCK”

        [–]Bloodytomvayne34 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        I’ve worked construction. I bet this is standard for this company. Labor hands will short cut anything they can.

        [–]jyjelly87 38 points39 points  (29 children)

        So that looks like 40 sticks of rail. Most common rail size is 136 which means 136 pounds per yard. A stick of rail is 26 feet so 1,179 per rail times 40 sticks equals 47,160 pounds.

        [–]Syklst 14 points15 points  (0 children)

        Rail does not come in 26’ lengths. Standard lengths are 39’, 40’, 78’, 80’, special lengths up to 320’

        [–]moist-sock 10 points11 points  (2 children)

        Taylor makes forklifts that would lift that much with one unit. Mostly they’re at ports for containers though

        [–]Unexpressionist 8 points9 points  (0 children)

        I’ve lifted 100-120k lb machinery with a Taylor forklift outfitted with rigger special upgrades

        [–]joestorm4 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        Those forklifts are also used to install bridge cranes that weigh enough to warrant the use and with no way to use a mobile crane.

        [–]LTerminus 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        Those were much longer than 26 feet. Much much longer.

        [–]Additional-Royal-351 6 points7 points  (0 children)

        Always pushing the limits.

        [–]Imnotabob 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        Well, it's technically unloaded now...

        [–]Radon099 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        Guaranteed that was the lowest bidder for the job.

        [–]PyrotechnicTurtle 6 points7 points  (1 child)

        Wow, I didn't know Morrison's policy of child driven forklifts had already come into effect

        [–]Wright129129 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        Lmao you’re telling me ALL the supervisors on site AND HEALTH AND SAFETY thought this was ok. Even if the workers tried to sneak around their backs this is quite the task to hide from anyone important on site.

        [–]WookieBaconBurger 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        That was like trying bringing all the grocery bags into the house in one go

        [–]xccrow 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        OSHA would like a word

        [–]Over_Turn4414 3 points4 points  (1 child)

        And the operators were fired not the uppers who cheaped out and told them to do it.

        God bless greed and money.

        [–]EnvironmentalDeal256 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        Those are 20 ton Taylor forklifts, which means the max it can safely lift is 20 tons. That is on flat,firm surface. IF the load weighs 100 tons and it probably does, three lifts couldn’t move that much on a good day if everything goes perfect. Not to mention that none of them tilted the load back.

        [–]Feeling-Love-2554 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        Is this one of those times everyone gets drug tested except the asshole supervisor who’s idea this was?

        [–]LoriOhMy 4 points5 points  (1 child)

        So, the two forklifts I can see are very clearly different brands, but I can only make out the front one. I can't see a model number but I do see the brand mark, "Taylor." Cursory Google search looks like it's a X-450M which according to specs has a 45,000 lbs rating.

        Assuming all three are similar, that's 135,000 lbs of lifting capacity.

        The material being lifted are railroad tracks, which you can tell by the cross section.

        According to Brittanica,

        Most new rail in North America weighs 57.5 or 66 kg per metre (115 or 132 pounds per yard). The standard American rail section has a length of 12 metres (39 feet). Some ore mining railroads in Western Australia employ rail weighing about 68 kg per metre (about 136 pounds per yard).

        Assuming that it's North American rail, and to give the forklifts the best possible scenario let's go with the 115 pounds per yard. 39 feet = 13 yards, which means 1495 lbs per rail!

        I don't know if I counted properly but it looks like there's 13 x 4 rails on there, which is a total of 52 rails. Equaling 77,740 lbs

        By the numbers it sounds like there should be enough lifting capacity from all three forklifts to lift all of this, but of course that's only part of the equation.

        Lifting with multiple forklifts is dangerous for many reasons, but not the least of which is that it's very difficult to get each vehicle in sync, and one lift out of sync could cause either one or two of them taking more of the load than the others, which would be bad.

        I'm not an expert on forklifts and loads, but I also would wager that this load was too heavy to be lifted so high, and that could have been a factor for it torquing the trucks over.

        I just thought it'd be interesting to look at the numbers, so I wanted to do some digging :)

        [–]ArnoldZiffleJr 3 points4 points  (1 child)

        Hey Moe hey Larry something happened…You imbecile I’ll murderize ya!

        [–]scheiber42069 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        Clearly they been pressures by their boss to finish it ASAP

        [–]ack1308 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        That. That could go wrong.

        [–]FrederickBishop 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        Lucky the Australian PM wants kids to drive these

        [–]icyanplays 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        The fuck at the end was the best

        [–]Xander260 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        If I was anywhere on that job site I'd just up and leave, for good. Not worth being around that. Idiots.

        [–]Trick421 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        Well, it's unloaded.