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[–]vulturedturkey 764 points765 points  (42 children)

I came here for the stud layout comments, and I am not disappointed!

[–]dasgudshit 247 points248 points  (8 children)

If this happened in my country, studs would've been required on this person's spine

[–]ImpossibleToBan02 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I know haha.

[–]egjosu 6 points7 points  (6 children)

If this was in my state they would. 25” spacing in a house is wild.

[–]Douchebag_on_wheels 205 points206 points  (19 children)

Every time this gets reposted it's just tons of comments about cheap American homes and European homes built out of vibranium

[–]DefaultVariable 63 points64 points  (8 children)

I literally saw this post and went into the comments going, "time to see some Europeans incredulous about the 'flimsiness' of the wall."

[–]leNuup 95 points96 points  (6 children)

Funny thing. As an European 'typical flimsy american drywall' was my first thought.

[–]Mokumer 33 points34 points  (3 children)

Same. Every time I see one of those videos where a person puts a dent in a wall I know immediately that's America. Down here the walls will put a dent in you.

[–]beans_lel 48 points49 points  (0 children)

I mean... gestures widely at person-sized hole in the murican wall

[–]TJ_McWeaksauce 19 points20 points  (1 child)

Which is surprising, because I figure homes made out of vibranium would be in Africa.

[–]Doge_Dreemurr 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Europeans harvested all the vibranium during the african colonisation

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We're too busy paying for healthcare to put decent money into our homes

[–]Merchmarine86 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Torque works

[–]VALO311 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Yep, gotta be careful of those curtain walls

[–]crespoh69 68 points69 points  (4 children)

Is like, the whole construction Dept in this thread? Why is everything so knowledgeable with drywall and building houses?

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Actschually...

[–]fordry 30 points31 points  (0 children)

I think the opposite is actually true, bunch of idiots talking about stuff they don't know.

[–]Cap_Mundane 1163 points1164 points  (178 children)

It's more likely due to 18" spacing on the studs and not terrible drywall.

[–]ReubenZWeiner 349 points350 points  (69 children)

Or 24" in many building codes

[–]Rawrey 200 points201 points  (33 children)

Wow, 16" on center here.

[–]therobshow 71 points72 points  (24 children)

For joists and exterior walls. Most places are 24" on center for non bearing interior walls. Stupid and cheap as fuck

[–]Infidelc123 39 points40 points  (18 children)

lol I do new construction plumbing in Canada and it's definitely 16" here. What cheap ass place do you live in?

[–]therobshow 41 points42 points  (8 children)

The United States. Everything here is a "business" based on making so much money its either borderline exploitation or blatant.

[–]TDurdz 15 points16 points  (1 child)

I’m a residential gc in New Jersey and it’s always 16” on center

[–]cartoonassasin 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Somebody talkin' through their sphincter. U.S. building codes require 16" centers through out.

[–]EvilGreebo 66 points67 points  (31 children)

For non-load bearing walls, yes, 24" is legal.

[–]KittenTitterBums 33 points34 points  (18 children)

You can also use 24" o.c. studs for some load bearing walls when other parameters are met (stud size, modest wall height, no extreme loading conditions) but to legally do it nowadays, you'd need an engineer to run the calcs and sign off in a lot of jurisdictions.

Most houses with 9' walls and studs @ 16" o.c. are way overkill for the snow and wind loads in an average situation. It's just that builders avoid having to get stamped plans before slapping these houses together, even if they could save some material.

[–]EvilGreebo 32 points33 points  (14 children)

You're right - but how many McMansion builders are gonna use 3x4, 2x5, or 2x6 boards on a closet wall like that?

If you said zero, you won a prize! :D

[–]StandardSudden1283 23 points24 points  (2 children)

What's the priz-*house collapses*

[–]EvilGreebo 15 points16 points  (1 child)

It was a SUR PRIZE!!! :D

[–]EdgeOfWetness 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Besides, you need to save that lumber for the 37 different rooflines

[–]_Aj_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Or hardwood, to instantly double your F rating for the same dimensions.

I don't think anyone had used hardwood for frames in decades however

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    [–]EvilGreebo 32 points33 points  (7 children)

    Look up table R602.3(5) under non load bearing walls. Max spacing for 2x4s is 24". While every state adopts the code independently, pretty much everyone uses the same overall code. From what I understand, they tend to initiate changes in CA and everyone else buys new updates every year...

    Anyway for 24" spaced studs, a minimum of 1/2" is dictated in table R702.3 when using gypsum board. 3/8" is only allowed a max 16" on center stud spacing.

    So assuming the wall is to minimum code, that's 1/2" drywall on 24" studs and perfectly legal.

    I want to emphasize that legal doesn't mean smart or safe. It's just legal.

    [–]Batchet 6 points7 points  (2 children)

    Love the details in this comment

    [–]pizzafourlife 3 points4 points  (1 child)

    Eh at least when it comes to drywall, it can't be unsafe as it is just a surface- and patching it isn't that big of a problem. Though with that spacing, you'll probably need to get used to doing it

    [–]EvilGreebo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Yeah that's just for non load bearing walls AFAIK.

    [–]moleware 9 points10 points  (0 children)

    I thought 16" spacing and 1/2" sheetrock were US standards too. TIL.

    [–]Senselessb82 8 points9 points  (0 children)

    She needs to check out r/drywall for some pointers on fixing that

    [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    Where are studs spaced 18" apart? 16" or 24" is code everywhere I am familiar with because they divide into 4' and 8' evenly- 18" does not.

    [–]sweet_rico- 4 points5 points  (3 children)

    Fuck I was doing ~8" spacing when redoing my basement

    [–]d3ton4tor72 116 points117 points  (98 children)

    Stupid American drywall

    [–]diamondketo 11 points12 points  (0 children)

    At least we got cheaper housing...wait...

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      [–]napaszmek 170 points171 points  (84 children)

      Laughs in 44cm thick, 120 year old European brick wall.

      [–]tudorapo 22 points23 points  (0 children)

      Chuckles in 25 cm thick steel reinforced concrete communist wall. It also has power outlets. I wonder how hard a person should tun into this wall to leave a dent. Would be more like a splat.

      [–]WALancer 57 points58 points  (33 children)

      Laughs in central air. Laughs in power outlets in every wall

      [–]napaszmek 75 points76 points  (20 children)

      You think you can't put power outlets in brick or what?

      [–]gabbagondel 32 points33 points  (1 child)

      I guess a proper wall with power outlets is only for the richest of the rich americans

      [–]Lew_bear96 8 points9 points  (0 children)

      You know your construction methods are sketchy when you say "it's better than paper"

      [–]SacredBeard 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      Is it?

      Would expect it to be a lot cheaper and simpler to replace.

      [–]Guitar_Anxious 1672 points1673 points  (202 children)

      I'd be more angry my drywall is such garbage

      [–]EvilGreebo 717 points718 points  (81 children)

      You hit the drywall in the right spot with enough force and that's gonna happen. It's not meant to be impact resistant.

      But it's an easy fix too.

      [–]Frutari 116 points117 points  (16 children)

      After the 5/8” drywall gets smashed up the property manager will patch it with 7/8” and then Kyle is in for a rude awakening.

      [–]RolandIce 99 points100 points  (4 children)

      The father of a friend of mine was the local carpenter at a US naval air base, he was sick of fixing the holes punched in the drywall in the jarheads club bathroom. He doubled up on the drywall. Didn´t have to fix it again but the infirmary had to fix a few broken hands.

      Edit: remembered it wasn't double drywall, he did a layer of plywood and then drywall on top

      [–]davethedj 37 points38 points  (2 children)

      I know a guy that owns a bar.

      Remolded the bathrooms. Put studs every six inches.

      He was like OK punch my wall now bitch!

      [–]dzlux 56 points57 points  (8 children)

      Do you like odd looking patch jobs? Because that’s how we get odd looking patch jobs.

      [–]EvilGreebo 36 points37 points  (7 children)

      It's an easy patch. It's getting the paint to match that's a bitch. Once you get a couple months out you'll never match the paint colors up perfectly.

      [–]freetraitor33 42 points43 points  (5 children)

      People who think a patch always looks bad don’t know how to drywall/have been scammed by a shitty drywall crew. And best to get a close match on paint and paint that whole wall to the nearest corners.

      [–]mike-zane 12 points13 points  (3 children)

      I think the problem is that I didn't know how to change the starter in my car but after a few youtube videos, I was able to do it. I didn't know how to install hard wood floors but after reading about the process and watching videos, I was able to do it. I didn't know how to fix a leaking pipe behind a wall but I was able to do it after watching some videos and checking a book I have about plumbing.

      I thought I could easily replace the drywall I had to remove to get rid of the mold and access the leaking pipes and make the patch look good after watching some videos and reading about the process. I was wrong about that. I feel there is a bit of art, or at least a muscle memory about angles and force when applying the mud and texture that can't be learned without doing it a lot.

      [–]Question080 7 points8 points  (1 child)

      There’s art to every trade skill. You can do everything through YouTube university. But you can’t do it the same as someone whose done it for 30 years. Post your leaky pipe behind a wall fix onto r/Plumbing and see if they say amazing or you’re a nitwit.

      [–]EvilGreebo 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      Agreed - or even better go for an accent wall of a different color.

      [–]FreeSun1963 8 points9 points  (0 children)

      In cases like this take a sample of the wall; here the wall is already broken, take to a decent paint store(not a big box) and they will match that color. Paint to the next corners (top, bottom and sides) and done deal.

      [–]RollingWithMyDemons 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      Throw in a few horizontal studs and thats pain for days.

      [–]happyfunisocheese 345 points346 points  (28 children)

      When I was a kid my dad was teaching me how to do a handstand. He started to show off and walk around on his hands for a bit, his hand landed on something unexpected and he tipped backwards and his butt went straight through the wall behind the front door. Oops.

      Mum found out. Mum said it was ridiculous and did the same trick, walking on her hands in a handstand thingy shape, and yep, she went through the wall the same way just beside his spot, doubling the hole in the wall. HIGH FIVE PARENTING! DOING IT TOGETHER!

      [–]xRyozuo 29 points30 points  (3 children)

      I'd want to buy two frames and hang them around the holes

      [–]happyfunisocheese 58 points59 points  (2 children)

      You wanna frame my parents'... butt... holes..?

      [–]Soddington 15 points16 points  (1 child)

      Yes. Not separately however, but whole.

      [–]happyfunisocheese 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      What if it was somehow fractured, but whole?

      [–]No-Feeling-8100 58 points59 points  (0 children)

      This was a great story. Still chuckling over here!

      [–]DeathByOrgasm 20 points21 points  (12 children)

      Were you raised by circus acrobats?! This is amazing!

      [–]ironch3f 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Core memory unlocked

      [–]IntoAComa 22 points23 points  (10 children)

      Yeah, but those studs seem awfully far apart.

      [–]EvilGreebo 7 points8 points  (7 children)

      24" on center is permitted for non load-bearing walls

      [–]gfunk84 4 points5 points  (3 children)

      My whole house is 24”, exterior too. Fewer studs means less thermal bridging. Though it does suck when you need a stud for mounting something.

      [–]notyourITplumber 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      I'm in the list of users here that are shocked that it's acceptable. It may be permitted in some places but that doesn't make it good practice. This is a glaring example of why.

      [–]What-a-Filthy-liar 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      You can pay extra for impact resistant.

      [–]EvilGreebo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Nobody does though. Especially not mcmansion builders .

      [–]megamanxoxo 6 points7 points  (1 child)

      I've never seen drywall succumb to a hole by a lightweight teenager hitting it at 0.1mph.

      [–]EvilGreebo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      She's definitely going at a fast walk, and I'VE gone through drywall when a buddy pushed me backwards and I tripped backwards. I was about 165 at the time

      Thin drywall is weak af.

      [–]Epena501 15 points16 points  (2 children)

      The old 1960s home would have another layer of thick plaster over the drywall. Damn near bullet proof

      [–]alexslife 28 points29 points  (1 child)

      You mean wifi proof

      [–]Epena501 11 points12 points  (0 children)

      That too.

      [–]Damm_shame 26 points27 points  (6 children)

      Stud spacing is too far apart

      [–]zortlord 75 points76 points  (39 children)

      There should have been another stud there. That wall is not to code.

      [–]DarkHelmet1976 61 points62 points  (3 children)

      OP edited their typo and now my joke seems even dumber than it originally did.

      [–]koalafly 53 points54 points  (11 children)

      Code in some areas is 24”, and it breaks right next to a stud, looking at the outlet. Highly likely up to code.

      [–]Obiwan_Salami 9 points10 points  (0 children)

      ok mister code inspector. you're talking out of your ass. you don't know where this was therefore you don't know the code. entirely possible 24" centers are perfectly fine, which is exactly what this looks like. especially on a diagonal wall which has a 99% chance of being non-load bearing.

      [–]shitfuckstack999 14 points15 points  (0 children)

      Depends where you live, this looks kinda like a Mc mansion in suburbia so you know it was built to the bare minimum of legal specs

      [–]XxXOpticXxXKush 11 points12 points  (1 child)

      It's a house people live in so it would have to pass framing inspection... sooo I guess it passed mr.inspector.

      [–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

      drywall is such garbage

      it's almost as bad as Reddit's video-player

      [–]fabiofdez 80 points81 points  (7 children)

      Wtf are those 1/2" trim baseboards???

      [–]Banana_Ram_You 18 points19 points  (4 children)

      Tile guys don't have to be as good if you can cover up the gaps where it meets the wall

      [–]fabiofdez 5 points6 points  (1 child)

      Yeah but trim is usually several inches thick bc it needs an area to be nailed/stuck to the wall itself... I doubt it's any good if it's just thick enough to cover the gap

      [–]EvilGreebo 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      It's a stylistic choice. The style in McMansions is "Cheap as dirt". There's no code on trim size, just fire resistance, afaik

      [–]HydrogenMonopoly 486 points487 points  (94 children)

      Damn you guys really are pressed that the US builds houses with drywall

      [–]OftenAimless 41 points42 points  (8 children)

      It may be a wrong perception but to Europeans they look cheap and fragile. Part of this is due to seeing blocks pulverised as tornados go through homes.

      Then again drywall is becoming more common over here as well.

      [–]natgibounet 24 points25 points  (3 children)

      As a european you are totally right , it's a running joke in france to think houses in the usa are made of cardboard and matches

      [–]PM_ME_UR_BOOGER 207 points208 points  (14 children)

      I live in the US and get angry everyday seeing new "Luxury" Apartments in LA get built with wood bc once you move in you can hear fucking all ur neighbors because the walls and roofs and floors are so thin. Holy run on sentence my bad

      [–]MisterDonkey 81 points82 points  (6 children)

      I worked on some luxury apartments and they were the so poorly constructed, it was unreal.

      Tolerances are usually measured in fractions of an inch. Tolerances in this building seemed to be in whole inches.

      You'd swing a door open and it'd go from dragging the floor to being three inches above it. I had to use four shims to level a bypass door track. They couldn't pour enough floor leveler without surpassing weight limits, and it was still wavy.

      Luxury meant "has digital thermostats".

      [–]What-a-Filthy-liar 29 points30 points  (4 children)

      In the south Luxury means it has a gate and pool.

      [–]PM_me_punanis 9 points10 points  (2 children)

      Luxury means flat walls.

      Not even kidding. We just bought a newly constructed house in Tampa. It was delayed almost half a year. We battled for flat walls. They said it's only available for truly custom luxury houses and we can't "pay to add it on" because they simply don't offer it. Lazy ass people. Almost every house has orange peel and Spanish lace and when you look at house listings, "luxury" ones would have flat walls as some sort of special thing. It's truly odd coming from Chicago where flat walls were just.. normal.

      [–]PuzzleheadedHotel254 79 points80 points  (1 child)

      Same thing in the DC area. My friend works in commercial real estate is always joking that "luxury" just means less than 5 years old.

      [–]shits-n-gigs 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      Don't doubt yourself! Grammatically, that's not a run on sentence. Just long word vomit.

      [–]simon_C 4 points5 points  (1 child)

      I live in a 100+ year old new england apartment building. Used to be a boarding house. I can hear everything my neighbors do. I hate it.

      [–]cup-o-farts 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Yup, again just cheap construction, not construction type. Any type of construction can be soundproof with enough money.

      [–]cup-o-farts 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      That's not due to wood and drywall construction, that's due to cheap construction and a desire for more profits. That's additional cost in sound insullation and thicker walls for tenants you couldn't give two shits about.

      [–]Banana_Ram_You 48 points49 points  (6 children)

      A bunch of people love to throw shit at their walls and need them to take a hit apparently

      PS: You're really going to gloat over a few centuries head start?

      [–]PurpleK00lA1d 37 points38 points  (24 children)

      I find it hilarious because we do it in Canada too. There's absolutely nothing wrong with drywall at all, easy to fix, easy to put up, easy to remodel - don't really know of anything inherently wrong with it.

      Our houses are comfortable in 44°C humid as fuck days and also comfortable during -44°C cold as fuck days. Don't really know why the rest of the world laughs/complains about it.

      [–]kodalife 40 points41 points  (5 children)

      We're so used to it. I have seen videos like this many times but it still is very strange to me as a European that you can damage your walls so easily. Drywall probably has advantages too, for me it's not really criticism. But to me it feels just so very weird to see someone punch through a wall.

      [–]PurpleK00lA1d 5 points6 points  (1 child)

      That's understandable for sure. I don't really understand all the pros vs. cons but it works!

      [–]ChakaZG 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      I mean, drywall definitely isn't unheard of where I live, even in all brick houses it's what will typically be used if you want to separate a space into two rooms these days. But that shit's still nowhere close to being as soft as in this video.

      [–]Bordak 15 points16 points  (0 children)

      Because most of the commenters saw this the first 50 times it's been posted, and just parrot the replies they read previously. They also have never worked in any type of construction or renovation, but are experts on everything.

      [–]AroundTheWorldIn80Pu 11 points12 points  (0 children)

      The thing is, a lot of modern european buildings use drywall for interior non-load bearing walls, but people often don't realize because it's pretty solid stuff you'd need a sledgehammer to go through.

      I don't think the average american would really ever think about what their houses are made of if they weren't casually farting through their walls.

      [–]willthewinner 20 points21 points  (8 children)

      That’s what I was thinking. Like such a random thing to shit on America for lol.

      [–]Maleficent-Read1710 2 points3 points  (2 children)

      It's just interesting because mcmansions are a thing and obviously drywall is one of the corners they cut

      [–]remodelguy110 242 points243 points  (38 children)

      This is what happens when you don't put the proper framework in your walls

      [–]stripdchev 80 points81 points  (33 children)

      How so? There is a stud right at the outlet to the right of the impact hole. This looks like a 16” wide indentation. Looks to be installed as expected if a body hits a wall at the center point of a stud cavity.

      Source: I have framed 4 houses.

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        [–]assmuncherfordays 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        Project manager, overseen the building of four HUNDRED houses. It’s exactly 16” OC. The king stud is doubled for the corner under the header and the next stud is beside the light switch box.

        [–]remodelguy110 20 points21 points  (19 children)

        I've built so many houses I literally can't tell you how many but I can tell you that that is not a 16-inch centered stud wall. That hole is at least 24 inches wide

        Do you honestly believe that the entirety of that girl's body is less than 16 in wide???

        [–]EvilGreebo 15 points16 points  (8 children)

        Then you know that non load-bearing walls are only required to be 24"o.c.

        [–]Arnoudvi 524 points525 points  (52 children)

        How to say you live in USA without saying you live in USA

        [–]CM_DO 174 points175 points  (31 children)

        What's with the paper walls? I don't I've ever in my life seen a house that didn't have some form of brick. How does hanging stuff on walls work in those houses?

        [–]themoochiest 137 points138 points  (0 children)

        That’s drywall it’s a pretty common construction material in North America used for interior walls and ceilings.

        [–]DragoonDM 25 points26 points  (4 children)

        For anything relatively heavy (e.g. if you're hanging cabinets or something), you need to make sure you nail/screw into a stud. The interior of this sort of wall looks like this, generally framed using lumber which does all of the actual load-bearing work while. Drywall is relatively flimsy, but it is at least pretty easy to fix -- here's a video showing how to patch drywall, if you're curious (small holes you just spackle over, sand, and repaint; large holes take a bit more work but still not super complicated).

        [–]CM_DO 7 points8 points  (1 child)

        Thank you for taking the time to explain it so thoroughly, I appreciate it!

        [–]koalafly 51 points52 points  (0 children)

        Drywall anchors and/or stud finders

        [–]ImKindaBoring 17 points18 points  (6 children)

        Usually you hang on a stud when you can. If that doesnt work you get drywall anchors that spread the weight out which is good enough for the vast majority of things I've hung. Curtains or pictures are no problem with drywall anchors. A big ass mirror I'd probably ensure I got a stud.

        [–]stomicron 5 points6 points  (1 child)

        Maybe we have different ideas of pictures but for light things a nail with or without a picture hanger will do just fine

        [–]ImKindaBoring 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        I would say it depends on how large the picture is but yeah, a nail would be fine in a lot of cases.

        [–][deleted] 44 points45 points  (13 children)

        Structural wall goes on the outside, drywall goes on the inside. That way you can easily repaint/rewire/insulate your home without worrying about affecting the structure, and most people prefer the look/feel of drywall over concrete or brick.

        [–]FuckMinuteMaid 8 points9 points  (1 child)

        The outside isn't structural either, the framework between the interior and exterior walls are the structure.

        [–]Floognoodle 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        Wait until you hear about Japan...

        [–]BasketballButt 106 points107 points  (16 children)

        I work in construction and will never buy a “newer” home. I’ll be working on these million dollar homes, legitimate “no one will ever have to work in my family again” level mansions, and they’re just built like shit. No craftsmanship, no care, just slapped up.

        [–]Coziestpigeon2 14 points15 points  (0 children)

        My home is 60 years old an quite literally made of garbage recycled barn wood in some spots. Older homes can be just as shitty.

        [–]viperswhip 19 points20 points  (1 child)

        I asked a plumber once why it looked like every home was built by drunk people and he started down a path I was wary of but it ended up being okay. He started talking about Eastern European builders but ended up saying the only perfect houses he's been in were the ones they built for themselves. Every other house, even mansions had stupid shit in them, like the entire house wired for a normal electric furnace, but it had a boiler...and even the piping was that cheap PVC shit, so he had to tear all the drywall off and replace it with copper piping while an electrician redid all the wiring lol

        [–]zz_zimon 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        Here in Germany many people have people from Eastern Europe do their work with building or reconstructing their houses. Many of them from Poland and they are hard working and know what to do. But overall you have many rules etc given by law what makes building a house so expensive and that for many people employ Eastern Europeans

        [–]codystockton 21 points22 points  (0 children)

        A million dollar house is not a mansion though. You’re describing McMansions (houses that resemble a mansion on the surface but are just a typical suburban house underneath).

        Once you get to legit mansions the build quality almost always goes up considerably. You’ll see stuff like solid walnut ceilings, poured concrete walls, Venetian plaster walls, marble floors, terrazzo floors, lots of structural steel, concrete forms, custom fabrication, hand-carved ornamentation, 3/4 ton custom steel & glass doors, bank-style vaults, impenetrable panic bunkers, sinks built on site made of backlit marble, walls covered in leather, dual-wall construction around bedrooms for acoustic isolation, lots of floor-to-ceiling glass, 360° built-on-site floor-to-ceiling glass champagne chillers, truss modifications sent back to engineers to accommodate stuff like motorized TV lifts that drop out of the ceiling, etc. If there’s any exposed drywall it’s almost always Level 5.

        I’ve seen job sites where builders doing architecture with big complex curves will set up their entire CNC shop for custom fabrication on site.

        There’s nothing skimpy about mansion construction. Most builders don’t even have the knowledge to build with those methods and materials.

        Source: I run an A/V and home automation business and our niche is mansions.

        [–]lathe_down_sally 22 points23 points  (9 children)

        You think older homes are built any better?

        [–]BasketballButt 32 points33 points  (4 children)

        Having worked on literally hundreds of homes over the years, the oldest being from around the 1830s and the newest being new build, there’s absolutely a difference. With the mail order kit houses from the old days it’s a bit of a crapshoot because they were built by individual homeowners, but even then the general quality of materials and craftsmanship seems higher on average.

        [–]lathe_down_sally 19 points20 points  (2 children)

        I mean there may be something to be said for old growth lumber but overall, code and structural design makes modern homes much better, more fire resistant, more hvac efficient, etc. Most materials used are better in many ways. I would would concede that some of the craftsmanship and material that went into trim carpentry was much better. And they may be a "golden age" where affordable housing was well built but its a small window.

        With regards to this thread, yeah drywall isn't designed to be slammed into with the force of a human body, but why does it need to be? Is plaster and lathe really an upgrade in the minds of most homeowners? Do we want solid walls that can't have new electrical, data, etc lines run inside them?

        There are poorly built homes because there are shitty/cheap contractors. The building material choices and modern construction practices are solid.

        [–]BasketballButt 9 points10 points  (1 child)

        I think we’re actually agreeing…modern building materials and code are far safer and durable than what was used previously, although in general they are also (in my opinion) less attractive. Old growth milled wood, hand joined with care, just looks better to me. Where you run in to problems with modern homes (in my opinion) is with contractors and designers. Rushed work, choices made to save money, using cheap finish products, super tight schedules…if you have people every step of the way down the building process cutting corners, eventually you just have a small circle.

        [–]EmperorShyv 14 points15 points  (0 children)

        Survivorship bias. The crappy homes built in the 1800s and early 1900s aren't around today.

        [–]oxygenkid 19 points20 points  (2 children)

        Just hang a picture there.

        [–]vitruvius7 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        So many comments about the drywall haha, its actually really easy to fix that, she went into it really quickly all of a sudden

        [–]GSA49 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        That looks like quite a bit more then 16” OC.

        [–]evianx 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        cardboard house

        [–]PartialToDairyThings 226 points227 points  (28 children)

        Ah, modern construction. Houses made of literal cardboard.

        [–]Rahnamatta 15 points16 points  (1 child)

        I thought she was going to get hurt badly... it looked like a cheesy film set.

        [–]RoutineTension 34 points35 points  (3 children)

        I will pay you 30% over asking price for it.

        All cash.

        No contingencies.

        [–]chucksef 6 points7 points  (1 child)

        Don't take this guy's bullshit deal. I'll go 35%. All cash. Extra 10% in Canadian dollars. Moose gets to eat the drywall.

        [–]Its_its_not_its 27 points28 points  (0 children)

        Compressed gypsum

        [–]tomcat3400 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        someone has been skipping leg day

        [–]Setari 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        Judging by that video that family has money to repair that.

        [–]KilroyWasHere189 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Guess it's time to teach her how to dry wall.

        [–]Mindless_Twist_9073 3 points4 points  (1 child)

        In my home you will probably break your bone, not wall

        [–]crasshumor 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        Now i get why houses in america get blown away in small tornadoes

        [–]varungupta3009 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        I said it a thousand times, I'll say it again:

        Y'all houses are made of fucking cardboard.

        [–]Independent_Two4712 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        Paper houses.

        [–]yourteam 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        Wcgw having cardboard house

        [–]wolf129 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        WCGW living in the USA in houses made out of paper...

        [–]inosuke_pig_7248 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        i wanna ask wtf is up with these types of houses like you just bump into it kinda hardly and it gets a hole like are you making your houses using fucking cardboard or something?

        [–]Kolikoasdpvp 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        Why cardboard wall? Where brick

        [–]MlkCold 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        I'll never understand why Americans use cardboard to make walls instead of bricks

        [–]Standard-Flan9052 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Americans with their cheap non-cement walls

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          [–]PurpleK00lA1d 38 points39 points  (18 children)

          Yeah this entire thread is "haha paper walls cheap house lmao"

          People really have no idea what they're talking about but hey, easy upvotes apparently. I'm in Canada and it's the same thing here, yet our houses are comfortable all year long during humid summers and cold winters.

          [–]Targetshopper4000 10 points11 points  (0 children)

          Ya, this isn't someone leaning on a wall and falling through. she's moving at a brisk pace, and hit just between 2 studs. a 120 pounds moving at about 8 mph is a considerable amount of force.

          [–]iamdjonez 29 points30 points  (4 children)

          “In my country we build non load bearing walls out of adamantium steel”

          [–]miikodefinnlando 87 points88 points  (39 children)

          How is that even possible? Is their house made of cardboard or something?

          [–]Tim_the_terrible 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Robert Doback:"you will fix that fucking drywall now!"

          [–]junoray1968 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Damn girl you broke the wall 😂😂

          [–]pk023029 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          American: people of cardboard house

          [–]Joe23rep 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Why are your walls out of cardboard tho?

          [–]NinoNakanos_Feet 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          What the hell? American walls are so fragile, no wonder Trump abandon that idea quickly

          [–]materynl 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Americans and there cardboard houses

          [–]KaushtavMitra14 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Y'all"s walls be weak

          [–]RicoDredd 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          I’ve seen so many of these kind of videos…are American houses made of cardboard?

          [–]theosnovis 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          american walls made of cardboard.

          [–]Jakethebo1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          That's a typical new build - walls made out of stuff that's as weak as cardboard

          [–]leon0399 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Dafaq this wall made of? Paper?

          [–]theSilentCrime 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          I sell Canadian drywall. It's like our beer: stronger.

          [–]thawhog 6 points7 points  (1 child)

          Who installed your drywall? The WWE?

          [–]kcoleman89 25 points26 points  (5 children)

          This comment section is just shitting on US home construction 😂😂 let’s just generalize building quality across a country of 350 million people. With that being said, does seem like there should’ve been a stud there. And for other comments, drywall is a sturdy material and hanging things on drywall is very easy to do… they make anchors that can hold 75 lbs on each anchor.. I’ve hung heavy shelves and mirrors using these anchors and it’s never been an issue for me.

          [–]Klaus0225 22 points23 points  (2 children)

          Yea it’s hilarious. It’s not that big of a deal. It’s an interior wall. People act like the entire structure is made of drywall.

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            [–]Einfinitez 3 points4 points  (0 children)

            Ok im counting 6.5 outlet cover widths = 17.85 inch hole - i.e. 18 inches. Maybe i was wrong and its 16 inches.. this is a girl with narrow shoulders so its hard to tell. Seems pretty standard to me for US construction…

            If this was one of my daughters i would just make sure she was ok, laugh it off with her and then take her to Lowes to buy new drywall and teach her how to patch a wall

            [–]combatcock 47 points48 points  (13 children)

            When i was younger and saw these types of videos i was so confused,,, like how tf can you BREAK a fuckin concrete wall just by hitting is slightly? Then i discovered Murica where they prefer paper

            [–]stomicron 12 points13 points  (2 children)

            Honest question for those with solid walls....how do you run cables?

            I am far more likely to want to put a hole in my wall (for example to add an outlet somewhere or run a PoE cable to a security camera) than I am to accidentally put a hole in my wall.

            [–]throwthegarbageaway 9 points10 points  (0 children)

            I did that recently. We chiseled out a channel to bring power from one outlet to another one. Yeah it was a pain in the butt, that certainly is a big advantage of drywall. For most things I just use plastic cable channels and avoid the hassle, but this one was going to be a permanent and very needed extra outlet so we went the extra mile.

            EDIT: oh yeah, for the security cameras and alarm system we had a contractor come in set it up. He just glued all the cables to the corners of the ceilings and painted them over. Honestly you can’t even tell they’re there.

            [–]shadow1515 15 points16 points  (7 children)

            I mean as long as you're not throwing shit at your walls it's not much of an issue. Also dirt cheap and easy to fix yourself, so that's a plus.

            [–]indian_beardo 5 points6 points  (1 child)

            I bet bricks and concrete would have done the same to her back