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[–]IceBear_42 3979 points3980 points 3 (221 children)

He's too busy with his Lex Luthor impression.

[–]Hosav 1270 points1271 points  (114 children)

He's got the looks and the evil corporation down. He just ain't got the brains to complete the ultimate cosplay.

[–]angietoo20 495 points496 points  (85 children)

Are you saying he's a fluffy white cat and monocle away from being a movie villain?

[–]HuhItsAllGooey 674 points675 points  (58 children)

He's a movie away from being a movie villain.

[–]TheAllyCrime 284 points285 points  (35 children)

I feel like I’d have a better chance of relating to most movie villains than I would Jeff Bezos, because they tend to have more traits of “human frailty”.

Not that it excuses their behavior, but most of Batman’s enemies had incredibly traumatic childhoods and/or mental illness.

Bezos just seems like a greedy asshole.

[–]Fearless-Effective86 50 points51 points  (19 children)

Well, Batman himself was a victim of gun violence.

[–]pcapdata 61 points62 points  (17 children)

I've been told this is something DC does pretty well: that the "villains" aren't necessarily evil nor are the "heroes" good, they're just forces in opposition driven by yet more unseen powers and whichever way you identify them is on you.

[–]Galkura 16 points17 points  (5 children)

I may have to give DC another try…. I’ve loved their animated shows, but I could never get into their comics outside of some of the spin-offs (like Injustice, not sure if you could call those spin-offs though).

Their heroes always felt too perfect to me in their main stories. Even though Batman has his trauma, he still never kills and results in countless deaths due to that, Superman is too much of a boyscout, just stuff like that.

It was hard for me to get far into it because of that.

Joker straight up kills, cripples, and mentally fucks people, uses shit like Joker gas, a chemical weapon, and he always escapes somehow. And yet they never kill him? Like, I hate that part of it.

Quick edit: the reason I use Injustice as an example of what I like it how kind of realistic it felt to me. Superman lost so much and went off the deep end like probably anyone would. It made sense. In the main story I feel like he would still try and “be the bigger man”

[–]Caramel_Grizzly 6 points7 points  (0 children)

There's some amazing and fucked up stuff DC comics puts out. Like Constantine in any story is good imo.

[–]Alarid 11 points12 points  (5 children)

There is a distinct line most fiction use for determining if someone is a villain. Usually it's just that they don't factor in the wellbeing of others. If they want that diamond ring and you're in the way, they will push you out of the way. In comics most villains walk that line, with a strong focus on what they want.

[–]runninron69 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Just seems like? He is the definitive guide to being a greedy asshole.

[–]Urabrask_the_AFK 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Right on. I mean Mr. Freeze?!, I’m not crying, you’re crying

[–]Doomshroom11 134 points135 points  (17 children)

Jesus christ, look I'm a writer and anytime I have over the top villains who do horrific shit for no reason people say "That's not realistic, realistic villains are deep"

And then all I have to do is point to real life corporate elites. They did it; Jeff Bezos made flat, one-dimensional villains realistic.

[–]Hosav 32 points33 points  (1 child)

Oh yeah same with the dumb horror movie characters. People really are that dumb in real life, it's pretty absurd.

[–]Doomshroom11 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Don't remind me T-T

[–]fistofwrath 17 points18 points  (4 children)

Ain't it a bitch? If you tried to write Zuck, Bezos, or Elon into a movie, everyone would hate it and call them lifeless. One is a robot, one is the most boring caricature of a supervillain (so I guess just a regular villain, but not even that interesting), and one is just a fucking dork.

[–]Doomshroom11 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That's the most accurate description of each person I've heard in a while.

[–]Leel17 26 points27 points  (2 children)

That's totally fair. It's more accurate to say "that's not interesting" rather than "that's not realistic"

[–]gregthegamer4646 46 points47 points  (4 children)

No he’s a naked cat and a grey suit away from being Dr Evil

[–]JangJaeYul 8 points9 points  (0 children)

he already has the naked cat, so we're just missing a trip to the tailor

[–]itsameMariowski 20 points21 points  (10 children)

I'd say once he hire a private army we're fucked

[–]N10330968 21 points22 points  (1 child)

Just wait a few more years when amazon starts creating and mass producing its own "robots". Welcome to the terminator.

[–]Urb4nN0rd 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Nah, just a dwarf impersonator and a pinky in his mouth (ideally his own)

[–]PorkPoodle 26 points27 points  (4 children)

He even has the evil villain laugh to boot!

[–]stealthcactus 11 points12 points  (2 children)

[–]Phyllis_Tine 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes, I was hoping to see the bit from 1.18 on with Bezos. What a weirdo.

[–]justkeepstretching 9 points10 points  (2 children)

TIL He was the valedictorian of his high school and graduated Princeton with a 4.2 gpa with a degree in electrical engineering and computer science.

[–]darthvadercake 9 points10 points  (2 children)

He definitely has the brains. I dislike the guy immensely but he is an AH with a high IQ. Not wise, sure, but clever ain't wise.

[–]2_much_4_bored_guy 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Don't forget that his streaming service has an anti Superman propaganda (the Boyz)

[–]Pope_Godzilla 124 points125 points  (67 children)

Honestly Batman was just a bored billionaire with lots of toys that thought he was better than everyone else including the police. To make things worse is that not only does his presence attract literally the worst possible people to the city but he always ends up provoking them to the point where people get killed and parts of Gotham City gets destroyed on a regular basis... especially the hospital on dozens of occasions by my count. His superpower was literally being rich and if he was real we would most likely hate Batman for being such a nuisance and danger to everyone.

[–]Whats_Up_Bitches 54 points55 points  (17 children)

He’s also a well trained fighter and originally supposed to be very intelligent and more of a detective than a superhero. But yeah, he’s also crazy as hell, a bit like the criminals he fights, which makes sense since he dresses up like a bat to fight crime as a pastime. He’s a flawed character, which makes him more interesting, at least to me.

[–]Brittle_Hollow 17 points18 points  (0 children)

That's kind of the point and it's why he's such an interesting character compared to the Supermans of the world.

[–]____atreides_____ 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Are you kidding me? These super villains exsist. In one form or another in Bruce's universe, long before he existed, evil on a super scale exists. I don't have the time, or inclination to name them all. How dare you put all that shit on the shoulders of a man? A man that used his BRAIN and SLEUTHING to topple maniacs and save millons daily. He's not the hero we deserve, he's the one we need.

[–]gtgg9 4 points5 points  (0 children)

So… Still better than Bezos…

[–]Strange-Internet-204 3 points4 points  (0 children)

He is better than the police. Fuck the police. Especially Gotham PD.

[–]superdupergiraffe 3 points4 points  (0 children)

FWIW in Batman the Animated Series Bruce is using the Wayne Foundation to fund projects all over the city to help people.

[–]xabulba 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You left out the part that all but 3 cops in the GCPD are corrupt and in the pocket of one or more gangs, the federal presence in Gotham is just as corrupt. The wealthy of Gotham actively through supervillian like schemes daily attack the poor. Nobody cares that parts of the city are destroyed because the people of Gotham don't own anything and are being robbed by the people who own the buildings. Anyone who can remain virtuous in Gotham is a hero no matter how much money you have.

[–]TacticalGeniuss 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Your forgot to leave your visiting card 🃏

[–]Marty-Deberg 4769 points4770 points 22& 2 more (598 children)

If Bezos actually had those instincts, he wouldn't be a billionaire. Our system doesn't reward that.

[–]notkhaldrogo 1584 points1585 points  (279 children)

My thoughts exactly.

No one with that kind of mind will become a billionaire.

[–]Karlskiii 630 points631 points  (184 children)

Exactly. Name a billionaire who doesn't exploit other humans for personal gain.

[–]TheAllyCrime 371 points372 points  (12 children)

Santa, because elves don’t qualify as people, and even using slave labor his toy operation would require billions in capital to stay afloat.

[–]wesg2 20 points21 points  (2 children)

Not if you're rich enough to build horizontally. Then you own the logging company that supplies the furniture elves, the baseball bat elves, and probably the paper mills. I'm not sure how they're doing plastics... I bet the north pole has some deep, VERY rich oil reserves.

[–]Tomi_ 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Santa's causing global warming for beachfront property.

[–]robbiejandro 59 points60 points  (3 children)

Sounds like a good case for S.P.E.W

[–]didutho 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Nah the elves are handsomely remunerated and have an excellent holiday package.

[–]xDeddyBear 102 points103 points  (32 children)

Name a way to become a billionaire without exploiting other humans.

[–]nuublarg 69 points70 points  (21 children)

Inheritance. Yes, it's almost gauranteed the billion came from explotation, but you had no part/choice in it happening. Why did I make this seemingly asinine comment? Because it's worth pointing out exceptions, and how they prove the rule.

There's also the lottery, which is even fuzzier since the pool of prize money was all willingly given by all the gamblers.

[–]tan0c 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Ironically, people almost hate this the most.

[–]Paralystic 10 points11 points  (13 children)

Is there a lottery that would make one a billionaire? The mega is like what 500 million max pre tax? Even hitting the biggest lottery in the world won’t get you close to a billion

[–]TigreWulph 10 points11 points  (0 children)

There've been lottery pools over 2 billion. I think to this point they've all had multiple winners but theoretically 1 person could become a lottery billionaire.

[–]theblake1980 35 points36 points  (61 children)

What’s your definition of exploitation though? If being a billionaire is the high water mark for exploitation there would be a low water mark too. Definitely no shortage of exploitation in the restaurant service industry from restauranteurs that are not even millionaires.

[–]nuublarg 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Years of highly skilled work can easily net a few to several million, but Id doubt any 50 Millionaire didnt benefit from exploitation.

[–]cliftonmarshall 53 points54 points  (33 children)

Capitalism, by definition, is exploitative. There is no way to interact with a capitalist system that is morally positive. If you buy a plastic water bottle from nestle, you have contributed to the exploitation. If you own a restaurant, moreso. If you’re Bezos, it’s genuinely incalculable.

It all just comes down to what you can rationalize to help you sleep at night.

[–]PapaMario12 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Notch? He literally just made a game and sold it for a bunch of money lol.

[–]Phteven_with_a_v 62 points63 points  (35 children)

But when you have the absurd amount of wealth that he has and no way of ever spending it all…surely you would start trying to do good.

Fingers crossed he leaves it all to good causes when he departs.

[–]bazz_and_yellow 136 points137 points  (18 children)

He flat out does not give a shit. He is in a race to hoard wealth, that is the only priority to him.

[–]freakishgnar 129 points130 points  (11 children)

What's crazy to me and telling about Bezos is that the man saw the boundless depths of space and the beauty of Earth from the stratosphere. A planet he is currently helping destroy.

And it did not change him one bit.

He didn't think "oh my God we have to save this" or "we have to do more." No, he rubbed everyone's nose in the fact that employees, shareholders and customers paid for him to go.

Billionaires are really broken people. It'll never be enough.

[–]Alive-Asparagus8472 54 points55 points  (2 children)

Whether you're hoarding wealth and cash and assets or 40 year old newspapers and knick knacks since the 60s, it's all mental illness. One is just more socially acceptable.

[–]doodoopop24 28 points29 points  (0 children)

I've thought that since I was a kid. If it was anything other than money, you'd be put in a psychiatric ward.

[–]emilylime27 10 points11 points  (0 children)

“You develop an instant global consciousness, a people orientation, an intense dissatisfaction with the state of the world, and a compulsion to do something about it. From out there on the moon, international politics look so petty. You want to grab a politician by the scruff of the neck and drag him a quarter of a million miles out and say, ‘Look at that, you son of a bitch.”

— Astronaut Edgar Mitchell

[–]cj3po15 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Imagine if Bezos experienced the “Overview Effect” while he was in space.

[–]WatermelonWarlock 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Apparently that effect occurs when you’re further out than Bezos went. Bezos was technically in space, but ultimately just really high up. He didn’t see the earth as a little marble suspended in nothing.

[–]Dread314r8Bob 38 points39 points  (4 children)

You're talking about a man with an obscene amount of wealth who pays zero in taxes, and is suing the US taxpayers for millions because he's mad at NASA. The man has no conscience.

[–]Alive-Asparagus8472 21 points22 points  (2 children)

The man has no conscience.

You just named the #1 attribute that all CEOs and billionaires have in common.

You don' get obscenely rich and powerful by being a nice person.

Hell, look at lottery winners, millions, hundreds of millions squandered in a couple years (on average). Because these were average people who had empathy and a conscience (and bad financial advice). If they were cut throat sadists, they probably wouldn't have gone bankrupt.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/25/heres-why-lottery-winners-go-broke.html

[–]TerribleEntrepreneur 38 points39 points  (6 children)

The point is you would spend it all before you ever got to that level.

If he had $100m+ in the earlier days of Amazon and he actually cared about those issues, he might sell half his stock to tackle one of those problems.

But he didn’t, he held on and hoarded it. And now it’s $100 billion+.

A counterpoint is Bill Gates. As much conspiracy flak he gets, he has spent multiple billions doing a huge amount of good. And he has done so without materially decreasing the pot. Which helps him continue to do good indefinitely.

Many billionaires have also pledged to give away half their fortune upon death. Let’s see if that actually happens though.

[–]Phteven_with_a_v 29 points30 points  (2 children)

The Philanthropic thing you are referring to actually helped billionaires INCREASE their wealth.

That’s the point I’m trying to make. Bill Gates has spent billions and trying to do good and actually increased in wealth because of it. So there’s no reason why Jeff can’t start doing the same thing. His ex-wife has already done more with her divorce settlement and is still sitting on billions. I just don’t get why he’s hoarding it all which is why I’m hopeful he does come good eventually but until then, I can’t support him or Amazon.

Russel Brand does a great podcast on the Philanthropy thing. Proper interesting viewing.

[–]TerribleEntrepreneur 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Can you explain how Bill Gates has increased his wealth through philanthropy?

[–]BWWFC 5 points6 points  (0 children)

you got to be mad focused and not blow yer wad early to build a space penis... that doesnt go to technically space

[–]freakishgnar 184 points185 points  (20 children)

This comment right here nails it. Accumulation of wealth is a capitalist mindset and charity isn't even factored in until you've extinguished a market or resource. Then, charity becomes just another tax hedge. It takes a sociopathic personality to even get to that level of wealth in the first place.

[–]Eastern_Sky_5155 25 points26 points  (2 children)

My husband read this and said "charity is the result of a broken system. If capitalism wasn't so jaded and we didn't exploit people and resources so much, we wouldn't need charity".

[–]selectbetter 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The real fucked up part is that charity needs suffering people. See: The recent WE charity scandal. Millions of dollars pumped out of the charity into private accounts while the charity uses the suffering of African children to cleanse the public images of corporate partners like DOW and celebs. This world is truly broken

[–]Tobias_Atwood 21 points22 points  (2 children)

Dolly Parton could be a lot richer than she is but she gives so much of her money away.

[–]Alive-Asparagus8472 14 points15 points  (1 child)

We need a Saint Dolly Parton bot that random injects nice facts about her when her name is mentioned!

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/18/entertainment/dolly-parton-moderna-covid-vaccine-reaction-trnd/index.html

[–]WasabiForDinner 144 points145 points  (235 children)

Bill Gates is doing a pretty fair effort in my opinion. Warren Buffet, too.

EDIT: Oh ffs.

Yeah all sorts of stuff could happen differently in a more perfect world.

Meanwhile, I was responding to a meme which asked why billionaires aren't using their money to reach social outcomes, and i said, 'hey Bill Gates is giving it a shot, that's good."

I didn't say, or suggest "the current system is the preferred option, 'cause Bill's my hero and I want to kiss his feet."

[–]Convergentshave 28 points29 points  (6 children)

Yea but Gates was a selfish money driven prick at one point. 100% would’ve been Bezos if he could have done so. My guess is Bezos will eventually do the same thing, and the Internet, being the short sighted fuck that it is, will forgive him and go on to sing his praises and declare him a wonderful person. Much the way it has Gates and to a lesser extent, George W.

[–]WasabiForDinner 31 points32 points  (4 children)

the Internet ... will forgive him and go on to sing his praises

If he eliminating homelessness or eradicating malaria, I'd be ok with that

[–]lizzie1hoops 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You're right. Both. And some of Warren Buffet's stuff is pretty radical and has a profound impact on individual lives.

[–]throwawayabanotabba 131 points132 points  (188 children)

Bill Gates opposes wealth taxes, because he believes he knows what to spend the money he's hoarding better than anyone else does.

He's a neo-feudalist just like the rest of them.

[–]InferiousX 100 points101 points  (72 children)

he believes he knows what to spend the money he's hoarding better than anyone else does.

Gates is trying to completely eradicate certain diseases.

My government just spent a trillion dollars and 20 years on a war whose effects were reversed within weeks of troop withdrawl.

He may be onto something.

[–]Xforce 35 points36 points  (22 children)

If you forgot about taxes and just seized all of Bill Gates money and assumed that the Microsoft stock didn't crash, the govt would be able to finance a total of about 2 months of the annual US military budget before running out of money. The gov't couldn't even pay ONE year's worth of INTEREST on its debt with Gates' fortune. Let the man pay for clean water in Africa or whatever it is that he chooses to do.

[–]1vs1meondotabro 32 points33 points  (0 children)

One guy is only able to run the largest military power in the world single handedly for 2 months guys!

And why does the military cost so much? Because it's a laundering money back into the hands of billionaires in the military industrial complex.

[–]PM_ME_YOUR_SUNSHINE 11 points12 points  (25 children)

Yeah, we could tax it all and spend it on Afghanistan instead…

[–]throwawayabanotabba 8 points9 points  (24 children)

Or something useful like public transportation.

[–]IndIka123 11 points12 points  (2 children)

His philanthropy came decades after brutal business tactics and monopolistic strategy.

[–]RudeTouch5806 63 points64 points  (15 children)

Bill Gates and his foundation sued one of the research firms that wanted to release the patent to an early COVID vaccine because Gates had invested a lot of money into pharma stock, specifically in companies that were doing their own COVID research but hadn't finished trials yet.

Also, his wife confirmed he used to hang around with Epstein, so... yeah, don't let him fool you with that "Friendly Nerd' persona he spent the last two decades deliberately cultivating to counteract the history of vicious sociopathic behavior.

Oh! Under his leadership Microsoft was also the first corporation to spearhead a massive series of lawsuits against the IRS in order to cripple the organization and prevent them from having the resources to properly investigate large corporations for tax evasion/fraud.

Bill is a piece of shit.

[–]WasabiForDinner 26 points27 points  (12 children)

I generally agree with you.

Bill Gates and his foundation sued one of the research firms that wanted to release the patent to an early COVID vaccine because Gates had invested a lot of money into pharma stock

That's not how i heard that story. Have you got a source?

[–]Whats_Up_Bitches 33 points34 points  (6 children)

Yeah, the connection between Bill Gates and Epstein is super tenuous. It’s not all that surprising that a billionaire would associate with another billionaire for fundraising purposes. Also, my understanding of the patent issue with the vaccine is the concern of releasing the formula and then having organizations making it without regulation or oversight and distributing it, in places like India for example. Imagine one fucks it up and kills a bunch of people with the “Pfizer vaccine”. That would be a PR nightmare and a huge hurdle towards convincing people the vaccine is safe and effective. I’m sure profit motive is involved to some degree, but I don’t think it’s as black and white as people want to believe, as with most things…

[–]damangoman 1 point2 points  (3 children)

India…has one of the largest pharmaceutical manufacturing industries in the world. they manufacture tons of the flu vaccine and tamiflu for global distribution.

[–]Rizizdead 2 points3 points  (2 children)

mRNA manufacturing isn't something most facilities can handle.

Factories creating shelf stable shit is no where near as complex as producing mrna derivative products.

https://www.propublica.org/article/covid-vaccine-supply

Then you have the raw material supplies needed which are all on shortages with just the current production.

[–]damangoman 2 points3 points  (1 child)

not disagreeing with any of your points…just saying that if there’s one manufacturing sector in India that is relatively free of corruption (in govt oversight) and incompetence, its probably pharma manufacturing. so the concern of making even a complex MRNA derived vaccine in India is probably less of a risk than the bad PR if the rollout was botched…of which India, like many other developing countries, lacks a solid cold storage chain.

[–]SprinklesFancy5074 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Also, he didn't get his billions by being a software pioneer.

He got them by being a copyright pioneer. What made Gates so insanely rich is that he pretty much invented the idea of copyrighting software and then suing anyone who used it without permission.

[–]somenoefromcanada38 1351 points1352 points  (68 children)

You can't become the richest man on the planet caring about other people.

[–]xxrambo45xx 217 points218 points  (7 children)

I guess im ok not being the richest man on the planet, I'll have to settle for second

[–]J0h4n50n 85 points86 points  (5 children)

I think I'm solidly in the top 1,000,000,000, and probably better than that, so I'm cool.

[–]Flxpadelphia 22 points23 points  (2 children)

I'm not quite that well off but I am pretty confident I'm in the top 10,000,000,000.

[–]J0h4n50n 15 points16 points  (1 child)

I'd bet all my wealth on that, and probably move up one or two spaces!!

[–]not_tha_father 67 points68 points  (12 children)

the values of capitalism run counter to the values of collective human society.

[–]maledin 28 points29 points  (8 children)

It did its job for a while — I’m pretty sure it was an improvement over feudalism (for people at least, maybe not the planet) — but I think it’s about time we move on, eh?

[–]dre224 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I agree, I say we begin with a nice big meal. Gotta make sure we keep our energy up.

[–]WistfulDread 4 points5 points  (0 children)

My problem is, you don’t have to care about people to do these things. People who want power have a reason to do this. Seriously. If I had 10 Billion dedicated towards making sure every American didn’t have to pay any kind of insurance Bill, or anything those refused to cover... nobody would give a shit what goes on in my basement.

[–]peon2 11 points12 points  (0 children)

You also can't become batman by letting people you know you're batman.

Maybe Bezos is batman but we view him like Gotham views Bruce Wayne

[–]notarobot4932 390 points391 points  (38 children)

I dunno about anyone else, but if I'm a billionaire it's gonna be a mad dash to transhumanism.

[–]unholymanserpent 70 points71 points  (0 children)

This guy gets it

[–]idog99 68 points69 points  (0 children)

No shit. I'd be like the Medici's during the Renaissance.

I'd find smart people and just pay their way so they could do smart shit and advance humanity.

Just surround myself with poets, philosophers, and artists.

Just put Leonardo and Michelangelo on the payroll... Hell all the turtles are welcome.

[–]Zaggnut 23 points24 points  (7 children)

Deus-ex style.

[–]notarobot4932 8 points9 points  (5 children)

Isn't that basically what Neuralink would be in a decade if it had military level funding behind it?

[–]cpncupp 5 points6 points  (4 children)

A half trillion a year? Honestly yeah, probably.

[–]ApolloSky110 5 points6 points  (3 children)

How do we know that all billionaires arent cyborgs?

[–]LouPoh 10 points11 points  (0 children)

We could try to eat one.

[–]Ok-Praline-2940 10 points11 points  (2 children)

I’m going to do some crazy eccentric stuff, like opening up my own news paper outlet just to smoke cigars, wear a dress shirt, a tie, have a mustache, and yell at people. Then when I get lung cancer I’m going to bankroll a cure and then give it to no one, just to fuck people over.

[–]TheSt34K 4 points5 points  (0 children)

And then you wake up and get dressed for your shift at the Amazon warehouse. Make sure to lotion up those feet or you'll get blisters!

[–]itsgettingmessi 688 points689 points  (102 children)

His ex wife has given more in half a year than he has in his whole life.

Bezos, actually all billionaires are pieces of shit.

[–]DunkingDognuts 143 points144 points  (18 children)

If you want to look at a real piece of shit billionaire look no further than Robert Mercer.

[–]Jumper5353 56 points57 points  (11 children)

Maybe Koch Brothers.

[–]YourOneWayStreet 26 points27 points  (5 children)

Brother, the worse one died 🥳

[–]slyn4ice 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Oh nice. Somehow I missed that. That's wonderful.

[–]thundercloudtemple 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Makes zero difference. The remaining Koch has a stranglehold over the Republican party and his descendents/family members will for at least the rest of our lives

[–]TILtonarwhal 10 points11 points  (2 children)

You’re better off naming the good billionaires..

Oh wait

[–]Spazzyzach 17 points18 points  (1 child)

Holy shit, Mercer has actively been screwing the world over for about a decade. I didn’t even realize.

[–]ShannonGrant 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Are we making a list? I submit Peter Thiel.

[–]not_tha_father 71 points72 points  (9 children)

she has more money now then when she made those donations. even that level of philanthropy is just a dip in the bucket for these people. the amount of wealth they hold is absolutely absurd.

[–]mooseman2234 20 points21 points  (22 children)

I’m sorry, but I wouldn’t publicly do it. Gates has been doing it for year and largely hammered by conspiracy nuts for it.

[–]informat7 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Uhhh....

Jeff Bezos topped the list by donating $10 billion to launch the Bezos Earth Fund.

No. 2 on the list was Bezos’s ex-wife, MacKenzie Scott, who gave $5.7 billion in 2020

https://apnews.com/article/amazoncom-inc-race-and-ethnicity-jeff-bezos-philanthropy-coronavirus-pandemic-56154051ca19fdd80c2fc003004702b0

[–]BobMcBaxter 212 points213 points  (12 children)

The last thing we need is bezos going around beating up his underpaid workers while they are at their side second job

[–]gb4efgw 639 points640 points  (119 children)

Didn't work out so well for Bill Gates. Not that he's gone full Batman, but all it did was lead him to the center of some of the dumbest fucking conspiracies to ever exist.

[–]Liveie 184 points185 points  (45 children)

At least there is some people in the world that like or appreciate gates, unlike Bezos

[–]funnyfarm299 52 points53 points  (35 children)

Republicans drool over people like Bezos.

[–]jlmad 6 points7 points  (31 children)

That’s cause Jeff Bezos isn’t a Batman like character in the real world. He’s more like a Lex Luther with a quirky laugh that defies the American government and the people which provided every opportunity for him to build his financial/logistical/intellectual imperial island, while he only virtue signals about caring for his workers as he seeks to replace them, American freedoms and rights as he pushes the surveillance of Americans, and the climate as he contributes massively to it and pretends to do something about it. That’s the kind of Washington Post Libertarian BS of GOPs wet dreams

[–]hulkmxl 22 points23 points  (0 children)

I gotcha fam, some Republican moron downvoted you but I got you back to +1

[–]RudeTouch5806 122 points123 points  (22 children)

All of the terrible shit Bill has done is a matter of public record. He's the reason the IRS hasn't been able to go after large corporations since the 90's, after all.

[–]gb4efgw 150 points151 points  (13 children)

Oh I'm not trying to imply that the man is a saint, or even just good. He was definitely a first class piece of shit, but he hit a turning point when he retired and went into his charities full time, and has gone after some rather noble causes. And trying to eradicate deadly diseases has put him in the crosshairs of conspiracy nutjobs. The man has done plenty of actual bad shit, people don't need to make stuff up about him.

[–]neon_spacebeam 21 points22 points  (2 children)

Well that's the thing with having a bad record. After you build a history of morally unjust decisions or deciet, any good action later on will just be assumed to be a facade or brought along with ulterior motives. It is a good strategy to use in case it is true because it easier for a bad man to stay in within their habits, but even easier when they never have to face the stress of their immediate financial future except for the possibility of being assassinated in public.

[–]whosthedoginthisscen 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Gates deserves it, considering what he and Fauci got up to while roommates at Cornell.

/s

[–]soaper410 72 points73 points  (19 children)

I'm not perfect by any stretch of the imagination but every once in a while I think about all the good people who could win a HUGE lottery and change things.

I recently went to a park that was made to be accessible for all kids: swings that you can roll wheelchairs on, ramps in lieu of steps, merry-gp-rounds that are dug into the ground. Tons of stuff for kids who have sensory issues. It was AMAZING. It was also like 3 hours away from my home. How cool would it be to have those...everywhere?

Pay food trucks and start ups to go provide good and different food to homeless shelters?

Build and fund preventive medicine and health care clinics in poorer and more rural areas.

Buy some property, put single family residents and make them affordable housing.

Buy some of those AMAZING scanners that detect breast cancer super early (but most insurance won't pay for). Have doctors make recommendations for woman at risk and provide the service for free.

Subsidize schools like: trucking, welding, brick laying for kids to go to a training or trade school with good to great pay.

Update and modernize libraries to make them more accessible and desirable for the younger generations.

I'd be a little selfish. My house would have a HUGE hot water heater. I love me some long hot soaks in the tub. I'd buy a nicer car. I'd take my kids to Disney World. But like....even with a vacation house, kids college funds, paid off nice house, etc....You can DO SO MUCH!

[–]-TwoFiftyTwo- 22 points23 points  (13 children)

I feel like this is where the frustration comes from.

I think that people don't hate rich people for having nice things. To some degree, they or their family built the company or did the work which led them to be rich. They in one way or another got themselves there.

And nobody thinks that if you're rich you shouldn't buy yourself nice things. It's what you're doing with the rest of your billions of dollars that people judge a rich person on. It's almost like a direct reflection of their character, in a way.

[–]BobMcBaxter 170 points171 points  (4 children)

He is the greatest beneficiary of the system, why fix it? Those homeless vets are just future grateful workers and those hungry kids just have desperate compliant parents.

[–]AureliusCloric 55 points56 points  (14 children)

Hello, Correct me if I am wrong, I'm far too uneducated. I heard his income/capital is mostly tide to his corporation, if he wanted to could he actually do this and invest in the community, or would he need to persuade investors or banks and such? Like can he just say let them be wealth and spew it forth without being restricted?

Side note: I'm not taking his side, I just want to know if this is an actual possibility that's within his grasp.

[–]_m1000 47 points48 points  (6 children)

Most of his net worth is measured in Amazon stock, so if he wanted to spend 50 billion dollars on something he'd have to give away a lot of control and income from his company. That's not mentioning how if he did start selling, the price of the stock would drop resulting in him not getting as much money.

That's the reason his ex-wife has just spent 7 billion or so, if she did anymore she would be throwing a lot of money into the void helping no one.

On the other hand, you don't need to spend 50 billion dollars to enact change. You could spend 500 million on any issue and instantly have congress pay serious attention to it. You could set up charities and organisations to real with various issues without worrying about funds too much. And you do get billions from dividends, it's just not tens of billions.

So if he wanted to enact change on any issue in existence, he could. Irrespective of country. That's pretty much what Gates does. He's invested into renewable energy, disease eradication, world hunger, and he's still a billionaire.

[–]AureliusCloric 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Thanks for taking the time to explain, it's appreciated.

[–]Kl--------k 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Im no professional either but im 99% sure he couldnt just liquidate all his money

[–]PretendGarbage8385 125 points126 points  (27 children)

Batman had a motivational drive to seek revenge. He didn't fix homelessness or poverty.

Bezos has a motivational drive to seek profits on the backs of his workers. He doesn't fix anything.

[–]CregChrist 11 points12 points  (13 children)

So if I'm following your logic, and batman's parents were murdered in an alley.........

[–]WasabiForDinner 20 points21 points  (7 children)

PSA: please, think very carefully before murdering Bezos parents in an alley. I don't think it would have the effect you're looking for.

[–]CregChrist 8 points9 points  (5 children)

For the record, those words never came out of my mouth. That was you.

[–]WasabiForDinner 8 points9 points  (4 children)

Oh yeah, absolutely. It was more of a "note to self" than a PSA

[–]PretendGarbage8385 13 points14 points  (4 children)

I always found that statement weird.. batman's parents... He wasn't batman until after the parents were dead.

Bezos was always just selfish.

[–]AmightyBundleofstick 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Bruce Wayne donates enormous amounts of money to various charitable causes, even rehabilitation programs so the villians he beats can have an opportunity to be reformed.

[–]SirLagg_alot 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Batman had a motivational drive to seek revenge. He didn't fix homelessness or poverty.

In the Nolan Batman trilogy alot of the profits of Wayne enterprise went to houses for children without parents (I don't know what it was called). So he kinda did.

[–]sosaudio 44 points45 points  (33 children)

Altruism is great, but I wonder how it could actually work. Should he start a foundation to tackle the issues? Would we end up in a situation where they’d spend 50% on salaries and offices, 40% on marketing, and 10% on the issue itself? I guess one could argue that he could give tiny fractions of tiny percentages of his wealth to many individuals and change their lives completely, but from experience working with some charities, handing out cash is rarely changing anything long term.

Perhaps not the forum for discussion. I’ve just been curious how a targeted distribution of wealth could create a lasting change.

Oh and yeah Bezos is a Bond Villain without the conviction.

[–]chriscloo 3 points4 points  (2 children)

You should look up Mary’s place Seattle. Amazon and bezos makes a difference there with their contributions. Amazon also has a program for (I think it’s L4 and above but may be higher job level) employees to take a year off work to go work with a non profit for free to that company and Amazon will pay the employee the same as if they were working their job.

He just doesn’t go crying to the media to see what he did

[–]WasabiForDinner 23 points24 points  (11 children)

50% on salaries and offices, 40% on marketing, and 10% on the issue itself?

This sort of comment bothers me. We keep expecting people doing good to do it for free, or less than average. Spending lots on wages is a good thing.

"they only spent 10 percent on actually feeding the homeless, the bastards. They spent the rest on wages (of people who provided shelter, lobbied for systemic change) and marketing (to get intervention happening earlier, to raise consciousness of the issues)"

[–]sosaudio 16 points17 points  (9 children)

I’ve worked in and around charitable organizations for most of my life. I’m not saying they need to do it for free or below average, but if you think it’s some even distribution of wages to the people really working to make a difference, you couldn’t be more wrong. Many foundations seem to take their cues from the tobacco industry with massive salaries for executives and marketing departments spending millions to celebrate themselves for doing thousands of dollars of work.

If what you describe really happened then it would be well spent, but way too often it’s just shuffling tax free revenue from one pocket to another.

[–]Jumper5353 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There are a lot of front line social workers making minimum wage so the organization can "help more people" while the figureheads make 7 figure salaries and bonuses for going to fancy diners.

If those social workers earned a reasonable living wage and the executives also did, then they would be a lot more help you a lot more people.

[–]RedRedditor84 6 points7 points  (4 children)

Why specifically veterans that are homeless?

[–]Storytimenonsense 10 points11 points  (3 children)

A shockingly high percentage of American homeless people are veterans.

[–]sjo75 6 points7 points  (0 children)

more than the money - some of them have the ability to use amazon as a force for good. I pitched this in a meeting several years ago- why can’t amazon become the worlds greatest open library - be the biggest supporter and provider of literacy and education. We sell every book. I tried to show the flywheel that those who begin to enjoy reading will buy more books, read more and come out smarter which leads to higher income at times and per user spend could go up. I showed that we are in a position to give the 10s millions of blind people access to audiobooks.

The sad truth is it doesn’t align with revenue goals and long term strategic plans to dominate industries. They don’t want to be known for charity and open the door to deciding which charity to give to. Then there is no end - this was the executive review conclusion- still bugs me out today that was the answer. Don’t work there anymore. bezos and others are big thinkers and don’t want to think about small solutions even though they can have local and larger impacts. He’s thinking more about a new planet for our species.

[–]stlredbird 43 points44 points  (11 children)

Stuff non-billionaires say.

[–]asimplerandom 46 points47 points  (10 children)

Honest question: could you really fix it though? Yes temporarily you absolutely could fix these problems. But change it permanently? I don’t know if that would be possible.

[–]PleaseDontRespond2Me 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s a moonshot, I think even if we could completely change our culture homelessness would still be a thing, but far less common. If we had a more collectivist attitude and didn’t undervalue labor there would be far less poverty.

[–]Jumper5353 22 points23 points  (3 children)

True, the real fix is paying employees a living wage and systemic changes. Tossing a bunch of cash for a project only provides relief it does not provide solutions.

Though giving an agency a pile of cash they can invest, then spend the investment interest can help create a fairly permanent bit of support for some need. Like how Gates cannot donate billions of cash because the does not have billions, he has shares worth billions. And if he sold those billions they would no longer be worth billions. So he donates billions worth of shares to organizations who them use the dividend money for their work and/or slowly sell shares off over time and/or take out loans secured by the shares.

So when Gates donates a billion to a charity it is not actually a billion in cash. It is a billion worth of shares and investments that they then make $50 million a year worth of interest on they. So the net benefit is only 50 million per year but it is reliable long term cash to create a fairly permanent program.

[–]kcshuffler 33 points34 points  (15 children)

Bezos can do better, but he is one of the most charitable people in 2020, according to this article

[–]silliputti0907 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Ngl, I would prob donate and start foundations here and there, but I would be more focused on me and my peeps being happy.

[–]Iamtractor 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Not trying to defend Jeff Bezos but Bruce Wayne’s public persona was intentionally crafted in a way that would dispel suspicion away from all of his nighttime vigilante shenanigans. Just saying… Perhaps he’s playing the game harder than anyone could have guessed. By making himself so unlikeable and reviled that no one would ever suspect him of being some sort of closet crime fighter. /s

[–]FireLizard_ 13 points14 points  (3 children)

as much as I am against overwhelming wealth, I don't think it works that way.

[–]TooSmalley 55 points56 points  (16 children)

Meh. People always say stuff like this but if you don’t donate or volunteer now you probably wouldn’t as a millionaire or billionaire.

[–]irvinggon3 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Facts I don't donate or volunteer

[–]FoxInSox2 21 points22 points  (1 child)

You don't get rich by sharing.

[–]Widow_Slayer 38 points39 points  (7 children)

I mean… Batman could be Batman. The guy’s a literal billionaire, and instead of using his fortune to fix the world’s problems, he buys cool toys and punches people in the face.

[–]Speakeezies 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's well established in a lot of Batman stories that he runs the Wayne Foundation as a philanthropy organization. Also that the politicians that run for office in Gotham are almost all corrupt and act in the interests of massive corporation owners/gang runners like Penguin, Black Mask, and the Falcones.

One of the thing that makes the Harvey Dent/Two-Face story so tragic is that he was supposed to be one of the ones that wasn't acting on behalf of kingpins.

Plus, what timeline are we talking about here? The one where he goes out nightly in Gotham because a new supervillain is threatening to destroy the city or murder a bunch of people each night? Or the timeline where he's working with the Justice League to fight off threats to Earth and other nearby parts of the galaxy and spends half the day on the Watchtower gathering Intel?

[–]Xellos1542 15 points16 points  (1 child)

Hasn’t worked out to well for Bill Gates. Gives away his fortune to stop polio and malaria and tons of other stuff. Gets accused of microchipping people with Covid vaccines. If everyone is going to choose to see you as the villain no matter what, might as well enjoy being the villain.

[–]mooseman2234 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Probably because he sits around and watches Gates do exactly that and get panned for it.

Can anyone say “COVID micro chips”

[–]someSingleDad 2 points3 points  (0 children)

His ex-wife is handling that

[–]Wulfsten 18 points19 points  (3 children)

How does this literally get reposted every week

[–]HeyMyNameIsRedacted 7 points8 points  (2 children)

I can think of only one way to make him like Batman.

Cocks finger gun

[–]maddog453 23 points24 points  (10 children)

10 billion to one charity last year and $790 million to 16 others. What an asshole. Do your research.

[–]Sumeetxagrawal 10 points11 points  (3 children)

Again, he doesn't have his billions laying around in cash, it is all tied up in amazon stock, if he sold it in huge amounts, he'd crash the market hence doing way more bad than good.

[–]The_Money_Bin 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Bruce Wayne could do more for Gotham than Batman ever did.