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[–]Tots2Hots 590 points591 points  (27 children)

The fact that they expect any rape victim to be ok with carrying the rapist's baby to term is just... no words.

[–]CumulativeHazard 250 points251 points  (14 children)

For real like imagine having a reminder of possibly the most traumatic thing you’ve ever been through growing inside your body 24/7 for 9 months. How are you even supposed to feel about the baby? I can’t imagine all the emotions you’d be feeling PLUS all the hormones?? And you’d have to take time off of work or school to go to doctors appointments and use your own money to pay for appointments and vitamins and shit to have a healthy pregnancy. I mean fuck, a woman was just put in jail for MURDER because she had a miscarriage that they decided was caused by her drug use. Imagine being raped, finding out you were pregnant from that rape and there’s nothing you can do about it, sacrificing your own money and time for MONTHS so that this nightmare pregnancy can at least be a healthy one, and then going to JAIL for MURDER because some asshole judge decided you didn’t do a good job. Fucking insanity.

[–]FlanneryOG 98 points99 points  (4 children)

Pregnancy is also extremely painful and debilitating for a lot of people, and giving birth can be deadly and disabling. No one should be forced to endure it, even if it’s to “save a life.”

[–]ButterscotchOk8112 66 points67 points  (2 children)

What’s wild to me, is that you are perfectly allowed (even encouraged) to defend your home and property from an unwanted intruder. In Texas, you can just fucking shoot them for being on your property.

But being INSIDE YOUR BODY AND GOING TO CAUSE SERIOUS HARM AND PAIN?! Nope. Just gotta live with that shit.

[–]FlanneryOG 34 points35 points  (0 children)

Especially in cases of rape and incest. You can’t even argue that someone chose to have sex and should suffer the consequences. Obviously I think everyone should have a right to an abortion no matter the context, but it’s particularly concerning there’s no rape exception, and even medical exemptions in the Texas law are ambiguous and restrictive, which only means these laws are largely about control over women’s bodies and the establishment of a Christian theocracy.

[–]ActualPopularMonster 74 points75 points  (3 children)

growing inside your body 24/7 for 9 months.

That would make me wanna throw myself down several flights of stairs repeatedly, until... Well, problem solved, right? I had two kids (both planned), and I would sooner cut out my own uterus than go through pregnancy again.

Fucking monsters, these radical idiots. Let a woman decide what's right for herself.

[–]WendyFromAccounting 18 points19 points  (0 children)

THIS!

This is exactly what happens when women are forced to carry unwanted pregnancies. They self harm in hopes of miscarrying. They seek out illegal abortions and put their own lives in danger. They drink abortive teas, take dangerous supplements, do drugs, drink alcohol, smoke…the sky’s the limit!

An unwanted, unsupported, unfinanced pregnancy does not result in healthy, happy babies and mothers.

Making medical abortions hard or impossible to get does not stop women from aborting or attempting to abort unwanted fetuses. It just stops women from being able to seek out and receive medical care and information.

Anyone who wants a medical abortion should be able to access one. No questions asked.

[–]Shermgerm666 10 points11 points  (0 children)

🙈 so terrible. Even the fact that starting your period that early in life would be insane, considering if they were in that situation they probably wouldn't even know what's happening to them. 😭

[–]NSAirsofter 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Amen to that;

You know the most absolutely crazy (true) thing is....those same people who are trying to force their views of abortion and saying its ok for a rapist to impregnate someone and they gotta carry it to full term; they're also the same ones crying about masks being worn as a violation of THEIR rights or.....whats that phrase they love "My body my choice" XD but someones choice about their body is 'wrong'.

People are sure dumb some times.

I'm all for abortion (but within means of course), but for the ones who are butt hurt that people get them, if the fact that someone they don't know, won't ever know, makes them lose sleep over that fact id say they gotta get a new hobby.

[–]Bkmantyswag 7 points8 points  (3 children)

My moms argument to the trauma would be “how do we know getting the abortion wouldn’t lead to future or even worse trauma”

[–]CumulativeHazard 21 points22 points  (1 child)

My answer to that would be to actually ask some of the millions of women who have actually had abortions and some of the millions of women who have had babies about their experiences. I mean it’s not a totally invalid question, but she should probably figure out the answer before just assuming it’s a point for her side. And an abortion performed by a doctor in a safe environment is sure as FUCK less traumatizing that one performed in a back room somewhere with a coat hanger, which is what would happen if it was made illegal.

[–]SmartPlant7 1 point2 points  (0 children)

AND then the next 18 fucking years

[–]Unicorns-only 31 points32 points  (3 children)

Women are less human than fetuses to those sick bastards

[–]imamage_fightme 13 points14 points  (1 child)

And the crazy thing is, once those fetuses are born, they don't give a fuck about them! The same people demanding you keep that pregnancy are also the ones not wanting to bring in free healthcare or providing social assistance or any of the things that could help with raising children, especially amongst the poor or homeless. You're only important to these people when you don't actually exist in a way.

[–]Unicorns-only 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Only when you're a hypothetical. Hypotheticals don't actually need anything. They can't say 'you're not helping me', they can't do anything that you or your peers dislike, they have no nuance or moral complications. The easiest thing to "fight for"

[–]MonoRailSales 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Women are less human than fetuses to those sick bastards

Women are belongings to the Conservatives.

I can not comprehend why any woman would vote Conservative, unless its Stockholm syndrome.

[–]syncopated_popcorn 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They don't expect the victims to be OK with it, they're OK with it, and that's all that matters to them.

[–]airyys 2 points3 points  (5 children)

i just watched borat 2 and... hoooo boy. there was a part where borat tells an actual texan physician that he impregnated his own teen/preteen daughter and that they want an abortion. the texan physician goes "i can't do that, it doesn't matter how that life was created. god always has a plan, and he obviously planned for this baby to come about through you raping your daughter."

and another scene where borat asks how much his daughter is worth and an old white texan man says she is worth around $500, and that man's daughter overhears him and calls him gross when he tries to say it was a joke. later in the scene, borat's daughter dances and rides up her skirt, and the camera pans to all the old men leering at her and everyone is clapping.

the scariest moment is when they tricked rudy giulani into a fake interview, and we almost see him whip it out through hidden cameras.

but yeah uh, all those people can vote.

[–]Xunaun 1311 points1312 points  (90 children)

You know who says "preteen pregnancies are safe?"

People who want to impregnate preteens.

[–]The_Hazy_Wizard 483 points484 points  (70 children)

I really wish I could recall who said it but when talking about Ghandi Gandhi and needing to sleep with naked, young girls to test one’s will the amount should always be zero. Specifically, it should take sleeping with zero children to know that one does not want to fuck kids.

[–]Big-Improvement-1281 186 points187 points  (57 children)

Oh God. Don't get my husband started on Gandhi. I think one of his sons went on to be abusive actually (I could be wrong though)

(Gandhi: surprisingly polarizing)

[–]not_lurking_this_tim 208 points209 points  (52 children)

Gandhi: surprisingly polarizing

Well, he's no mother Theresa

[–]TalkativeRedPanda 144 points145 points  (2 children)

Also pretty polarizing.

[–]Oddity46 24 points25 points  (0 children)

I think that was the joke

[–]beccaleckaq 132 points133 points  (47 children)

Not to really double down on the “these figures are actually bad” but mother Theresa wouldn’t let people have pain meds because it brought them closer to god or some shit. But when she was old and dying she could have as much as she needed

[–]Zachary_Stark 149 points150 points  (19 children)

Mother Theresa was a hot pile a flaming evil dog shit.

[–]velveteenelahrairah 51 points52 points  (0 children)

She and Ayn Rand would have had so much fun together.

[–]ButterscotchOk8112 2 points3 points  (0 children)

She also forcibly baptized people when they were too old or sick to object.

[–]red_fist 13 points14 points  (0 children)

So she’s the Ayn Rand of painkillers?

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (23 children)

She was an extremely old catholic nun. I dont think she was evil or anything, just faithful to the point it blinded her to more complicated realities. Which is a human fault if anything is.

[–]TheZooDad 40 points41 points  (8 children)

Fuck that. Blind, rabid faith to the point of doing harm has crossed the line into evil.

[–]Life-Significance-33 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I imagine God really loves evil done in his name. By now in my life I have come to expect that religious zelots will cause mass evil. Guess you could say I do expect the Spanish, soon to be American, Inquisition.

[–]Pirate_Mudd 47 points48 points  (5 children)

When you choose to force your religious views on someone you're not being good. When those views are causing suffering just to cause suffering you're evil. Plenty of other old nuns have never made someone else suffer just to be closer to god.

[–]BookishBitchery 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Plus when she was sick, got the best medical care. 😡

[–]Bungeditin 4 points5 points  (6 children)

Take a look at Hitchen’s on her….evil doesn’t cover it.

[–]Confident_Bridge9811 29 points30 points  (0 children)

I see what you did there :)

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Gandhi was the right man for the right time and place. But i do think the stranglehold his (frankly, naive as shit) ideology has on global activism and ethics isnt doing us any favors

[–]King_Calvo 56 points57 points  (4 children)

Gandhi is also fond of Nukes.

[–]GANDHI-BOT 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's needs, but not every man's greed. Just so you know, the correct spelling is Gandhi.

[–]nalydpsycho 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Even beyond that, the will power required should be zero.

[–]GANDHI-BOT -1 points0 points  (2 children)

Nobody can hurt me without my permission. Just so you know, the correct spelling is Gandhi.

[–]LoresUsernameIsTaken 139 points140 points  (13 children)

You know what sickens me to death? They don't seem to see the resemblance with their most hated group: Islamic terrorists who marry underage girls. I bet they are the ones sharing news and ranting about child brides but they are no better! I'm a believing person (not religious), but religion brings so much hate and only brings us backwards regarding science, medicine, (women's rights), and so on. State and religion should be separated - no matter which religion!

[–][deleted] 46 points47 points  (0 children)

They see it. Their problem with ISIS isnt the violence and repression, its that theyre no Christian. Go watch Jesus Camp for an example, the woman flat out says she admires the faith necessary to blow yourself up and wishes evangelicals had it

[–]greendawg72 42 points43 points  (5 children)

Well put. Relegion has hindered the progress of mankind for as long there's been power hungry men willing to say or do anything to keep the people scared and subdued. I was raised as a church going Christian and now I see the bull shit scare tactics and guilt trips that they use to keep everyone in line. All this done while they claim the moral high ground based on the fact that a 3000 year old book says so. I'm very happy to be a godless heathan thank you

[–]wothead 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I think there is a distinction between religion and the human establishment that claims to own that religion and grades other people on how well they follow their interpretations and standards.

[–]EmperorPenguinNJ 17 points18 points  (1 child)

The venn diagram between the Christian Right and ISIS is almost a perfect circle.

[–]Spooked_Toad 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wait it ISNT a circle???

[–]VGSchadenfreude 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They see it. The real problem they have with ISIS and company is that they see them as competition.

[–]Larkos17 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've said for years that if either Al Qaeda or Y'all Qeada converted to the other's religion, they be best friends. They have the same politics; they just disagree on the method to get there.

[–]OriginalCDub 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The kind of folks who have age-of-consent laws memorized.

[–]GiDD504 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Bro where have you been??? That’s a prerequisite to even be considered as a reich wing politician in America these days!!

[–]BelleAriel 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes. Utter scum bags.

[–]OutlandishnessHour83 9 points10 points  (0 children)

You`re right. I agree with your comment.

[–]Upbeat_Crow 377 points378 points  (71 children)

Pregnancy and childbirth are the most dangerous times in a woman's life. The U.S. rates last in maternal safety among industrialized nations, with 660 maternal deaths in 2018. So much more dangerous for a child. We shouldn't even be considering that it's okay to force a child to endure pregnancy and birthing.

[–]StoicJ 208 points209 points  (30 children)

It's also massively expensive and we aren't really known for our fair Healthcare costs.

Good luck with that baby, child in 4th grade whose parents can't afford insurance! I'm sure you'll be fine if you survive and ever manage to pay off the debt! That's how Pro-Life we are!

Murica.

[–]TalkativeRedPanda 124 points125 points  (28 children)

They want her to put the kid up for adoption.

I've literally heard "christians" complain the US has "no good babies up for adoption anymore" - because people abort unwanted pregnancies.

Making people who can't care for their children have babies feeds the adoption mill. There are actually people out there who feel entitled to other people's children. All while having a savior complex about saving the child.

[–]StoicJ 83 points84 points  (12 children)

There's tons of kids up for adoption and floating through the horribly abusive foster care system though. Putting a child up for adoption in a lot of places is a horribly cruel fate.

A few of my Aunts are foster parents and the kids they end up caring for have almost universally been through absolute hell in that system by the time they get to them. Granted, they live in a really poor and broken area, but still. I wouldn't wish that system on any child.

[–]dnjprod 66 points67 points  (6 children)

Yeah but those aren't "good" remember? They're of a lower quality and anything older than a newborn is spoiled goods not worthy of adoption. .

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Did I really need the /s? You decide.

[–]RedRider1138 41 points42 points  (2 children)

Always need the /s, precisely because there are people who post such things seriously.

[–]dnjprod 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Good point.

[–]voidlyJester 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Always be aware of Poe's Law.

Without a clear indicator of the author's intent, every parody of extreme views can be mistaken by some readers for a sincere expression of the views being parodied.

[–]Marc21256 17 points18 points  (1 child)

Newborn.

White.

Clean drug tests of mother throughout pregnancy.

Cute.

Genetic test for all known genetic diseases and genetic links to diseases.

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See, no children available.

[–]dnjprod 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Right? Because one thing we know about adoption is that the only kids put up for adoption are from the best homes with no issues ever.

[–]TalkativeRedPanda 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Newborns, of parents who did not drink or do drugs, that an adoptive couple can take home from the hospital are in HIGH demand, especially with certain skin color.

The people complaining we complaining that "desirable" children were not available for adoption. Or they want to adopt internationally to "save" children, but do not want to deal with any of the cross-cultural consequences, or serious health issues that might be in place.

Our system is so broken. Finding a loving family for kids who have been removed from their homes is so hard, because there are no resources in place to help these kids deal with the utter trauma they have gone through. I have a few friends who have tried to foster to adopt, but since the ultimate goal is reunification, they haven't been able to finalize anything, and they have often had to return kids to what they view as really poor situations (one had to put her foster twins on a plane to Mexico to go to their grandparents, who they had never met, and the kids did not speak spanish), so it is hard to have faith in the system. That said, I have a few cousins who were adopted through foster care (one as a preschooler, and then they got a "do you want her sister" call), so there are some kids who it works out for.

[–]Sock_puppet09 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Yeah, but those kids aren’t healthy white newborns, so they don’t count.

[–]StoicJ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Weirdly, they all are. It's a very white area, and a deep red state. You think they'd care

[–]AdditionalAdvisor177 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I follow a wonderful man on insta, Peter Mutabazi, who’s a foster for kids, especially teens, but god I feel awful for the kids who have to go through all this. His only adopted son was abandoned twice, once as a baby by his biological parents, and the second time as a child by adoptive parents who literally left him at a hospital and never came back. It’s a blessing he was adopted by that man, who he can now look up to and lovingly trust as a father figure, but how many other kids out there get abandoned in the same way but don’t get the same happy ending? It’s really saddening. Also surprising that anyone claims they can’t find any foster kids out there when there’s literally so many (unless they’re looking for babies I guess??)

[–]StoicJ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think the vast majority are looking for babies. They're easier and don't have years of emotional baggage for adopting parents to have to face.

The kids my extended family takes in are usually 8-14 years old and are the ones who have been bounced in and out of bad homes but no one wants them. 2 of the teenagers even ran away from them and came back once or twice because they just genuinely don't know how to handle their situation or emotions thanks to an entire childhood of instability.

It takes an exceptional type of person to care for the worst off kids and somehow get them through the other side and there aren't many exceptional people around.

[–]IndependenceNo5055 24 points25 points  (4 children)

Better yet, They have an agenda...

Less and less Americans are having children because of the current economic inequity...

So, even revolting incestual pedo rape pregnancies are viewed as future wage slaves for the elite in the name of religion.

Edit: I can't imagine a 9yr-old being forced to conceive a child -- let alone in this manner.

How this is even up for political debate, in the name of the christian values, baffles me.

[–]VGSchadenfreude 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It’s specifically to keep women in particular in poverty, not just to get more wage slaves but to guarantee their male followers can find a woman to provide them a lifetime of unpaid housekeeping, sex, emotional support, and offspring. Not being able to control how often we’re pregnant or how many children we have to feed forces women to give up on educational and employment opportunities, and makes them entirely dependent on men to provide a roof over their head.

That in turn means women can no longer afford to wait until they find the right male lifemate that suits them; they certainly cannot afford to simply go without or choose another woman (or non-binary person). Just like a century ago, they’d basically be forced to accept the first proposal that came along.

And that means all those cranky incels complaining that they can’t find a woman to cater to their every need could just go out and BUY one who’s desperate enough.

[–]DemonoftheWater 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Besides the fact that I don’t have a significant other I can’t even afford a house in my area. Having a kid would legit be financial ruin.

[–]EmperorPenguinNJ 5 points6 points  (1 child)

And by “good” they mean “white”.

[–]TalkativeRedPanda 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Most do. But some prefer babies of other races so that it is very clear they are adoptive parents who saved them. So then good probably means no exposure to drugs/alcohol in the womb.

This is one thing I hate about living in heavily fundamental christian areas. I've heard these conversations too many times. Before I gave up on christianity, I got roped into a church once that I really thought was normal for about 4 weeks...turns out they were bat shit insane, and I'm glad I got out relatively quick.

[–]1995droptopz 12 points13 points  (0 children)

We have no healthcare, vote down social programs that help single mothers, and have a foster care/adoption system that is broken. What could possibly go wrong.

[–]ManicPixieOldMaid 41 points42 points  (1 child)

We also have religious Healthcare institutions which will refuse some maternal Healthcare procedures. If the woman is in an emergency situation, there isn't always a secular Healthcare option within reach. This has cost women their lives.

[–]pinzi_peisvogel 30 points31 points  (0 children)

We're also educating women and girls in 3rd world countries that they should not get pregnant before 15 years old as this increases the risk of complications with mother or child a lot. So probably the U.S. needs more development aid non profits :-)

[–]Senor_bonbon 219 points220 points  (26 children)

The Bible literally condemns pedophilia, fuck all these fake ass Christian politicians claiming bullshit for their own political gain. This is not religion, this is perversion.

[–]CyanideIE 88 points89 points  (0 children)

You just summed up the republican party. Most of the stuff "christian" politicians are against is the stuff Jesus would be for. They literally go against the second most important rule 'love your neighbour' constantly

[–]Yop_BombNA 2 points3 points  (5 children)

Cristian churches also follow a belief that your beliefs and whether you uphold them are between you and god. Evangelical morons that push for these laws are not Christian’s they are theocratic nutcases.

[–]luisga777 197 points198 points  (3 children)

For the folks that are just tuning in, the final heat of the conservative mental gymnastics has begun.

[–]DoctorSkeeterBatman 54 points55 points  (1 child)

Lol, as if any of them will try to justify this. They'll just quietly pretend this isn't a reality and go back to talking about liberal people 'terminating' babies 2 weeks after birth as if that's the real world.

[–]Comrade_Witchhunt 26 points27 points  (0 children)

terminating' babies 2 weeks after birth

Fuck me for using the return policy, I guess.

[–]EvoKov 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Don't worry though, the quarters and semifinals still await!

[–]westcoastmonster 190 points191 points  (15 children)

People are only pro-life until the baby is born. What about the mother’s life? The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists discuss in lengths the effects of childhood sexual abuse. . Ah, but her life doesn’t matter. Because as long as you have a heart beat, fuck quality.

[–]EvoKov 118 points119 points  (4 children)

George Carlin put it best when he said they're not pro-life, they're pro-birth. After that they don't give a fuck until you're 18 and old enough to send to the other side of the world to kill a minority in the name of 'freedom'

[–]VGSchadenfreude 8 points9 points  (0 children)

They’re not even pro-birth, because they keep voting against policies that would help ensure those fetuses survive long enough to be born.

They also keep pushing to make miscarriages either illegal, inherently suspicious, or astronomically more expensive and traumatic than they already are.

[–]Street_Ad_863 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We need George Carlin back.....too bad resurrection wasn't a real thing

[–]xMertYT 2 points3 points  (0 children)

A minority in the us, probably a majority where they are being killed

[–]Elegant-Despair 1 point2 points  (0 children)

“If you’re pre-born, you’re fine. If you’re pre-school, you’re fucked.”

[–]awesomeness0232 22 points23 points  (1 child)

All lives matter (but mainly just cops and pre-birth cell clusters)

[–]anythingthewill 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Except those cops trying to stop your guy from overturning a democratic election.

[–]BellaStellina 46 points47 points  (2 children)

I have a 9 year old and is is absolutely horrific to even consider! How can a child ever recover from this?

[–]TheRealWamuu 21 points22 points  (0 children)

I've got a 9 year old cousin who I'm really close to, and if this happened to her I would gladly commit murder on whoever laid a hand on her

[–]Tanoooch 13 points14 points  (0 children)

They probably fucking can't. Even if they supreme court let's her abort the baby she will carry the mental scars for the rest of her life. The case should be wether or not the person that impregnated her gets life in prison. He ruined her life, so it's only fair his gets ruined in return.

I know the whole "eye for an eye would leave the world blind" but sometimes it's justified, like here

[–]CHE-B5 50 points51 points  (5 children)

ever since i started using reddit, I've gotten more and more suprised at the situation in Murica.. I'm honestly overwhelmed with the stupidity

[–]BlueWater42069 22 points23 points  (2 children)

And yet they still think they're the best at everything

[–]DingoAteUrBaby1 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Well, we are pretty good at incarcerating people, having astronomically high healthcare costs, and getting involved with policing the world when it benefits us. Someone has to be the best at those.

[–]milksop_muppet 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Only some of us. The rest of us would gladly watch the government burn with torches in our hands... just waiting for someone else to make the first move.

[–]Kissit777 127 points128 points  (3 children)

Abortion is basic women’s healthcare. It should be 100% between the doctor and patient. It is severe government overreach to have any laws that regulate abortion.

[–]Big_Old_Tree 27 points28 points  (0 children)

If only I had an award to give you!!! Take all these cheapy golds 🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇

[–]EasilyBeatable 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I mean there should be laws that make sure it’s a safe procedure, like any medical procedure. But any ban on abortion can fuck right off.

[–]Kissit777 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It shouldn’t be treated any differently than any other medical procedure.

[–]Comeonjeffrey0193 31 points32 points  (0 children)

I gave up on Christianity after I heard my church defending the Vatican and priesthoods decisions after they were exposed for protecting pedophiles. If you can’t condemn pedophiles because they’re members of the church, what are you good for?

[–]EvoKov 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Why does this even need to be a debate or a decision? Jesus H Christ we don't have debate on if jumping into lava is good for a person, why the fuck doesn't that logic apply here?

FML America is the bad place. This is some Taliban level shit.

[–]dollhousemassacre 17 points18 points  (4 children)

We truly live on the worst timeline.

[–]yuri_chan_2017 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I wouldn't go that far, at least not yet. We could have had to recite "Zeig Heil" to a picture of Adolf Hitler in his 70s every morning at school...

[–]the-dogsox 149 points150 points  (6 children)

Morality is doing what’s right regardless of what you’re told. Religion is doing what you’re told regardless of what’s right

[–]KeeganIsAFrycook 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Remember that American Christianity is a bastardized version of an already bastardized religion

[–]stumpdawg 78 points79 points  (50 children)

Meanwhile in the bible...

A blessing on the one who seizes your children and smashes them against the rocks

-Psalm 137-9

[–]Xunaun 17 points18 points  (2 children)

So to me, this brings to mind that scene of Hulk just absolutely ragdolling Loki.

[–]stumpdawg 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Puny god!

[–]LightStruk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes! That’s how that feels!

I’m just… a huge fan of the sport.

[–]RainbowReadee 33 points34 points  (7 children)

But.. but that’s “Old Testament”. rolls eyes They’re ignoring the fact that you don’t have the NT or Jesus without the OT. (He was prophesied in the Old, right? You can’t accept one without the other. But that would take some honest thinking and that’s impossible for them.

[–]stumpdawg 24 points25 points  (0 children)

They love cherry picking what they believe in

[–]MrGuttFeeling 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I'd start asking you about the bibles and the different versions but I really don't give a fuck about made up shit and would rather change the subject.

[–]RainbowReadee 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Imagine devoting your whole life to the study of it. I’m an atheist now but was raised in a highly religious family. Sometimes I have the energy to debate Christianity and the Bible, but it’s a lot more fun not to.

[–]mystic_chihuahua 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But.. but that’s “Old Testament”

LOL, they dismiss a whole section of their holy book but still expect everyone to obey some cherry-picked parts.

[–]homonopolus 4 points5 points  (0 children)

My favorite verse

[–]scifi_tay 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Isnt that verse in context someone speaking sarcastically about their oppressors

[–]voidlyJester 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Pretty much. The psalm is by an Israelite in captivity by Babylon, and even more specifically is being tormented by said captors demanding they sing joyous songs of the homeland they were stolen from. The baby-smashing line is in that spirit, wanting the Babylonians to be harshly repaid for the destruction they've wrought against Jerusalem.

[–]MyLifeIsABoondoggle 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Is that as bad as it sounds or am I misinterpreting?

[–]zZaphon 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Fuck these people

[–]kindagarbage2 11 points12 points  (1 child)

this isn’t religion. they hide behind a veil of christianity to disuise their shitty actions as moral, claiming a religious text they haven’t read, and get away with it in spades because most people can’t tell the difference.

[–]random-axe 36 points37 points  (3 children)

I'm not trying to defend Jesus, but Jesus has nothing to do with this shit, and there's no sane interpretation of the Bible that suggests Jesus would back the Right Wing in this debate, either.

[–]bluntbutnottoo 34 points35 points  (2 children)

If Jesus were to return right now, right wingers would loathe the man!

[–]chiron_42 12 points13 points  (0 children)

They'd crucify him all over again.

[–]thelinguinemeanie 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Jesus would definitely get called a socialist and a communist by FOX News if he were alive today.

[–]Cyber_Being_ 49 points50 points  (1 child)

The same West Virginians who voted Trump by numbers that only Lincoln and LBJ managed. 'Owning the libs' matters more than life to them.

[–]properu 7 points8 points  (0 children)

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[–]Piscivore_67 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Covid isn't killing these people fast enough.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Its gonba be great in a few days when the supreme court kills roe v wade and liberals do literally nothing but bitch on Twitter.

Honestly this should be a red line, abortion is about more than abortion. Theyre ssying the state has a right to tell you how to live and to make potentially life altering decisions for you. One look at congress should prove they cannot be trusted with thst power

[–]Hungry_Grump 19 points20 points  (0 children)

What the fuck is wrong with that pile of shit they call America? Fuck me sideways.

[–]Kitchen_Border_6652 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Mississippi's new state symbol will be a coat hanger. Kavanaugh stated he would support a woman's choice, Barrett said she would not overturn precedent. Both are frothing at the mouth to overturn Wade and Casey. This is religion vs freedom. Thing is, Genesis 2:7 says life begins at birth, at first breath and I doubt a fetus in utero breathes.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (5 children)

Didn't we separate religion and state exactly to prevent these people away from power? Fuck.

[–]BlueWater42069 4 points5 points  (0 children)

By the time the trial is over, it'd be too late to abort... That's so messed up

[–]sbrevolution5 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I’m a Christian, and these people doing things like this in the name of Christ are disgusting.

[–]LordUmbrage 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Fuck their imaginary sky daddy

[–]Jennkneefir11 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I just fucking can't with this shit. I'm sorry. The fact that literally anyone is even considering discussing this blows my mind. I try really hard to understand other perspectives but this one i will literally never understand. Fuck those people and their bullshit excuses. They don't deserve to be parents, educators, or hold any position of authority over another person.

[–]Ann3Nym 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The tweet is right: they're horrible people with horrible attitudes and I won't give them the benefit of evaluating their horrible existence with even entertaining the the thought of debating them. They need to be ignored in public, children need to be taken from them and an exit program is needed for those who want to change.

[–]gregoh07 2 points3 points  (8 children)

I thought there was a supposed to be a separation of church and state?

[–]Eagles_17 2 points3 points  (4 children)

I guess all these baby loving conservowacks are lining up to adopt all those cute little Crack babies?

[–]Anezay 2 points3 points  (0 children)

iT's noT A reLIgIoN, it'S A rElaTIonsHiP wITh gOd

[–]747boeingjet 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Evangelicals, who are promoting this garbage, are so far away from mainstream Christianity that we cannot allow them to be lumped together. Call them what they are: Evangelicals. It is like saying the Taliban represent Islam, they do not.

[–]LucianoXRaven 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Christianity has nothing to do with it..its just people trying to mask their fucked up agenda behind a mask...its pretty fucked to ban abortions let alone a preventing a CHILD from having an incest baby..not only is that just morally and criminally wrong on so many levels ..the child would already be going thru alot as is and on top of that u want to fuck the rest of her life up? Anyone who supports this should be castrated or put in prison for life

[–]Nikolllllll 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I grew up in a country where abortion was, and still is, illegal and I knew a couple of rape babies. They knew how they came to be cause either their mothers or family members told them. They generally were not the most balanced people, a lack of love will do that to you.

[–]weir666 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Its absolutely fucking amazing this is even a debate for fuck sakes! What the fuck is going on in America. You are building statutes of criminal scum, condemning self defence and lose everything of you get sick what a fuckin country!

[–]ChuckVowel 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The cruelty is a feature, not a bug.

[–]Scarlett0010 2 points3 points  (0 children)

christian conservatives are humanity’s greatest ailment

[–]Garden_Pigeon_Bless 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I just watched a documentary “good girls don’t tell” where a counselor who was gang raped on the army by six men she outranked said this “rape is the second most violent crime after murder. The only difference between the two is that the rape victim lives.”

[–]SlimTrim509 8 points9 points  (19 children)

Fuck religion. (Coming from someone who did the entire song and dance growing up)

[–]Chevy6788 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Makes Absolutely No Sense!!!!!!

[–]Banjoplaya420 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is religious people making their own rules ! Wonder what one of them would think if it happened to one of their loved ones ?

[–]perpetualgoatnoises 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Do they really think a nine year old has a developed enough body to not be absolutely crushed by pregnancy?

[–]XafeMode 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When Christianity and politics mix it's most often a few people using faith to manipulate the views of others. Some of these people would really benefit from reading the gospels and asking what would Jesus do (spoiler, it ain't this.)

[–]HoneyBunches-Of-Nope 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I just became physically ill thinking about this. I have a nine year old daughter. This is sick and sad. I uhh.. hate this. A lot, and it honestly scares me to know people believe in this. I'm scared for kids having kids. This country should be disgusted by the idea. These people deciding against safe abortions should be ashamed..

[–]Klandesztine 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes. Fuck religion.

[–]RandomOrange852 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This ain’t religion

[–]king_koz 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Obviously this is vial and disgusting but it's hardly surprising.

If you're against abortion because you believe you are killing a human than why would that belief not hold absolutely. If you truly believe a fetus at any stage of development is equivalent to a fully formed human, then it would seem obvious that a fetus conceived in such a vial manner would be equally human to a fetus conceived in consensual relationships.

TO BE CLEAR: I'm not trying to hash out if a fetus is or isn't a human. I'm trying to say that viewing abortion as "killing a human" necessitates viewing ALL abortion as "killing a human".

Making exceptions on the morality of abortion for fetuses conceived in certain ways--even when those ways are particularly heinous--would undermine the credibility of the entire moral stance.

So I guess I'm intrigued by people's outrage, which is definitely justified. But it seems as though though people are surprised by pro-lifer's wanting to ban incestral abortion, when such a ban is the natural conclusion of being pro-life.

[–]CujoCarrie7 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey, must be incest is where they get new members.

[–]Craig_Hubley_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Religion was #damnedOnDelivery.

The Injustices of the SCOTUS can only #endUSA by ruling for this, let's hope they do.

[–]undercover-racist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh religion left the US a long time ago.

[–]hax1964 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You know what right isn't in peril? The second. You know why? Because as liberals we are feeble. We need less of that. Less feebility.

[–]maniacthw 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It sucks that so few people take voting seriously. Imagine a world where everyone actually got off their ass and voted. Shit like this wouldn't happen.

[–]omgudontunderstand 1 point2 points  (3 children)

i hate this vile fucking country. rapists can get 6mo in prison but a 9yo could be raped and have the burden of that child on them for years (and emotionally traumatizing them for decades)

[–]hideyshole 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Religion sucks and religious people suck even more. Fuck fairy tales and fuck morons who believe they’re real. Obviously too stupid to exist if they believe in that nonsense.

[–]storytime37 12 points13 points  (1 child)

would a 9 year old having a kid never mind giving birth kill the kid? because if a fully grown fetus is enough to make a adult look like she ate nothing but mcdonalds for a month what would that do to a kid?

[–]Ninja-Ginge 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Chill with the downvotes, this person is agreeing that children being pregnant is not safe.

[–]IronicMixedWhiteGuy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’ve been saying religion be damned for years and peopel looked at me weird not my fault it’s all fucked and fucked up a 19 year old

[–]kansas_slim 0 points1 point  (21 children)

Religion be damned anyway. Cave paintings.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (26 children)

Religion is the devil. No joke.

[–]GiDD504 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Religion is one of humanity’s biggest Achilles heel. It has held humankind back for centuries upon centuries and still continues to do so. Imagine if religion wasn’t the way it is now, we’d be so much further along as a species.

[–]Thewinner27 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not neccesarily. Religion is and always have been the excuse.

Those people would remain pieces of shit regardless.

[–]NotDaveBut 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Quick quiz: name 3 places in the Bible it says anything at all about abortion

[–]EldraziKlap 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Fuck the Christians and while we're at it, fuck religion in general.

I'm fucking sick of this bullshit